Ship & Shovel - London Borough of Barking and Dagenham

Licensing Manager
London Borough of Barking and Dagenham
Roycraft House
15 Linton Road
Barking
Essex
IG11 8HE
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Andrew O'Connor
Licensing Office KG
Metropolitan Police
Roycraft House
15 Linton Road
Barking
Essex
IG11 8HE
Telephone: 020-8227-5642
Facsimile: 020-8227- 2693
e-mail: andrew.o'connor@met.police.uk
www.met.police.uk
Your ref:
Our ref:
5th December 2011
Appendix 1
Re: - Application for a Premises Licence – Ship and Shovel, Ripple Road,
Barking, Essex, IG11 0SN
Dear Sir/Madam,
The police wish to make the following representations with regard to the application made
for the premises above.
The police are opposed to the granting of this application on the grounds that it will present
a significant risk to the Licensing Objectives, specifically the Prevention of Crime and
Disorder and the Prevention of Public Nuisance and Public Safety
We believe the Prevention of Crime and Disorder Licensing Objective will be impacted
because in our experience the nature of all very late night venues carry added risk, due to
alcohol being available for extended periods, the people attracted to such venues and the
music played can vary attendances drastically. None of these issues are covered in the
application.
The venue itself is located directly on the A13, a fast arterial road that links the South East
to London, there is heavy traffic present on an almost 24hr basis. There is nothing in the
application that deals with crowd management, being so close to such a dangerous road
surely warrants some consideration.
Very serious thought needs to be given on how to minimise this impact. In the first instance
it is the duty of the applicant to show how they have considered this and then show in a
detailed operating schedule how these risks would be minimised. It is not for the police to so
drastically alter or amend an application so that it becomes fit for purpose.

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The proposal by the applicants is to convert the Premises Licence to a 24hr, 365 day a year
operation. This is so radically different from the way the venue currently operates that one
might expect a root and branch examination of the operating schedule and conditions
attached to the Premises Licence by the applicants. However, no such examination can be
evidenced from the application.
We do not believe that the addition of conditions however stringent can make this
application effective. As it is so vague that the police have no understanding of how the
premises are intended to be run.
A supplementary document to the application has been submitted. This document outlines
the steps to be taken in support of the Licensing Objectives. In each case the aims seems so
vague and generic that they can not be considered as effective, as an example in part E -
Protection of Children - an undertaking is given that ‘All children will have to be accompanied
by a reasonable adult, they will only be permitted till 6pm.’ This is meaningless and therefore
unenforceable.
Yours faithfully
Andrew O’Connor Pc516KG
Dagenham Borough Licensing Officer

Dear Becki,
The environmental protection issue raised by this application is noise.
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I am concerned to ensure that the playing of live and recorded music inside the premises without time restriction does
not cause public nuisance. I note from part P of the application form dated 2 nd November 2011 that no additional
steps are proposed to promote the licensing objective of preventing public nuisance.
Whilst I have no record of complaint associated with the current use of the premises, which I understand includes the
playing of live music, my indicative calculations (attached) suggest that if windows doors and windows are opened to
provide additional ventilation, for example during hot summer periods, moderate (and potentially serious) noise
annoyance is likely to be caused to residents of the closest residential accommodation at Dunmow House,
Goresbrook Road during the night. I do not believe this will be the case if windows are kept shut and doors are
provided with lobbies and are only opened to permit access to and egress from the premises.
To safeguard the situation I request that any licence variation that might be granted be subject to the following
conditions.
Best Regards
Andrew
All external doors and windows to be kept shut, other than for access and
egress in all rooms when events involving amplified music, speech, or other
entertainment likely to give rise to noise.
The entrances are to be provided with lobbies with automatic door-closers.
The lobbies are in use throughout the time of entertainment.
The emergency exits are well fitted and are kept shut during opening hours.
Andrew Martin | Environmental Health Officer -Environmental Protection
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