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Fall 1996 – Issue 50 - Stanford Lawyer - Stanford University

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Are you concernedby the way<br />

some ofthese markets depend on<br />

there being an economic gap<br />

between sellers andbuyers?<br />

Very much. If we see a market that<br />

wouldn't exist except for the fact<br />

that people are in desperate poverty,<br />

there's something wrong.<br />

Libertarians might argue that it's<br />

a choice issue: Ifyou'drather sell<br />

a kidney, than, say, sellyour<br />

child into slavery making rugs,<br />

then sell your kidney.<br />

Well, they would, and it's a rather<br />

powerful argument. They carry it<br />

all the way, too. Many libertarians<br />

would maintain that if someone<br />

says, "Your money or your life,"<br />

and you choose to give up the<br />

money, that's a perfectly rational<br />

decision. You and I tend to think<br />

that's coercion, and therefore we<br />

shouldn't let it happen. But the<br />

issue of what's coercive is very, very<br />

complicated, because it depends on<br />

what we think people ought to have<br />

as a matter of right; then if they are<br />

put in a position where they have to<br />

give that up, we say it's coercive.<br />

Libertarians think that coercion<br />

is a lot narrower category than<br />

some other people think it is. But<br />

everybody believes there's some<br />

Sit-in protest by children in servitude, New Delhi, India<br />

such thing as coercion. It has to do<br />

with a current buzzword in legal<br />

scholarly circles: "baseline"-what<br />

you start out with that others<br />

shouldn't be able to force you to<br />

gIve up.<br />

If you think there's a pretty big<br />

baseline-like people shouldn't<br />

have to give up a kidney even if<br />

they're starving-then the whole<br />

economic system could be considered<br />

coercive, because it's getting<br />

people to choose to give up their<br />

kidneys. But if we see the baseline<br />

as much narrower, so coercion has<br />

to involve the threat of physical<br />

violence, then the focus is more<br />

conservative.<br />

That's a complicated issue and<br />

one reason I had to write a lot of<br />

philosophy in this book.<br />

I worry about the people who are<br />

selling, in effect, themselves.<br />

Yes-but the implications go way<br />

beyond those individuals. Markets<br />

touching on people's personhood<br />

affect not just the sellers, but also<br />

everyone in their general situation-and,<br />

in some sens , all of us.<br />

If you decide that something<br />

inside the body, or something that<br />

was formerly thought to be inseparable<br />

from a person, is a commodity<br />

belonging to a person, it could<br />

end up being bad for that person.<br />

Take baby selling: What if we<br />

decided that a woman's capacity to<br />

bring forth babies is a commodity<br />

that she owns? At first it looks<br />

good for her, because now she has<br />

more wealth. But if that wealth is<br />

taken into account when they<br />

decide whether to give her welfare,<br />

then it's bad for her.<br />

Why do you say it affects all of<br />

us?<br />

There's potentially a domino effect.<br />

Suppose we say that people are<br />

unique and not marketable objects,<br />

but at the same time we permit the<br />

selling of children. A child who has<br />

been acquired that way would have<br />

a confu ed self-conception: "If I<br />

was a market object, how did I<br />

change over into being a unique<br />

person?" The concepts are contradictory.<br />

And suppose a kid who was<br />

purchased says to my kids, "I was<br />

worth $<strong>50</strong>,000. How much are you<br />

worth?" That would be pretty confusing<br />

to my kids.<br />

Beyond that, it's not much of a<br />

stretch to speculate that, depending<br />

on the culture, light-skinned babies<br />

might command higher prices than<br />

dark ones, and boy babies more<br />

than girls. If parentage is con idered,<br />

babies from high-IQ or tall<br />

stock might also go for a premium.<br />

Price differences like these might<br />

even be advertised.<br />

This would change what all<br />

kids think of them elves, whether<br />

or not they personally have been<br />

sold. And since each of us begins as<br />

a kid, it perhaps changes what<br />

everybody thinks about being a<br />

human.<br />

What can we do about it?<br />

I don't have an easy answer. One<br />

solution is politically impossible:<br />

redistribute th wealth, so that we<br />

don't have people so desperately<br />

poor that they're doing things that<br />

Continued on page 32<br />

FALL <strong>1996</strong> STANFORD LAWYER 13

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