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Mic Kaczmarczik's TubeInformation - The Blue Guitar

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ut it has no "getter", like a 6550A. But they run 3KV<br />

at 115 ma as a Class C RF amp. I was told they were pumped<br />

for like 24 hours for a much better vacuum than what one would see<br />

in a normal recieving tube.<br />

This makes sense. Look in a power tube like a 5881, you'll see a<br />

blue glow which to me looks very similar to the glow I see<br />

with 2050 thyratrons, ie: the less inert gas there is left,<br />

the less chance of an arcover.<br />

3.Quality control. Compare a 4-65A to a 4PR65A.<br />

<strong>The</strong>y look the same, but 4PR65A is pulse rated<br />

(from memory, specs no longer listed in the Eimac catalog)<br />

for use with a 10KV supply. I know 4-65A won't work,<br />

in place of 4PR65, I sold some (back when they were a<br />

bit more plentiful) cheap to place that makes flight simulators,<br />

where they promptly failed. (their idea, not mine!)<br />

Since I couldn't discern the<br />

differences by eyeballing, I'd assume even<br />

more vacuum pumping & tighter tolerance control.<br />

BTW: a cousin of the 4PR65, the 4PR60C, does<br />

20KV, 1.25KV screen, and peak current of 18 amps,<br />

peak power of 337KW. It's only 6 inches long, but<br />

has a ..egads.. 54 watt filament!<br />

4. Duty cycle. Hmmm, perusing my Eimac book<br />

I see the Y-141 planar triode. 59 mm long, weighs<br />

70 grams. Typical operating parameters: 5 KV anode,<br />

plate current 4 amps. Output power, 11 KW.<br />

Duty cycle, .001 %.<br />

5.Distance between pins. Note the differences<br />

between 807 & 6L6 re voltage rating. Again, back to<br />

the socket-cracking problem, as noted above.<br />

6.Plate material, at least on glass recieving tubes.<br />

I have a T-40 Taylor here. Looks just like a '50,<br />

but has carbon anode and plate cap.<br />

Voltage rating, 1500 volts.<br />

>I know they can take big K's. Has anyone actually got a case of tubes<br />

>dying from too many K's?????<br />

Well, it's lot easier to blow up gas rectifiers than vacuum tubes...<br />

>Lacking the equipment to do proper tests, I wonder if anyone out there<br />

>has done proper lab tests on 6L6's or EL34's to see what they really<br />

>will take......<br />

In terms of terms of plate dissipation and max cathode current,<br />

you probably have a pretty good idea already.<br />

Guys that build illegal CB kickers with tubes really go<br />

nuts on that angle, one customer with a *mobile*<br />

(musta had a double alternator) tube kicker reported<br />

that he was running 40KG6's, at 1000V, plates glowing<br />

with the mic keyed. Yow!<br />

I'll bet it has been done. What's more, I'd say no tube mfr<br />

in the old days, at least, would've shipped boxcars full of<br />

tubes to OEM's without extensive testing.<br />

Ned Carlson, Triode Electronics, Chicago, IL http://www.triodeel.com<br />

Open 12:30-8 PM CT, 12:30-5 PM CT Sat Closed Wed<br />

ph:773-871-7459 fax 773-871-7938 "where da tubes are"<br />

Email catalogs: email our CataBot: catalog@triodeel.com<br />

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