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There is no difference between men and<br />

women when it comes to studying science<br />

“When I was young, everyone used to say that science<br />

was difficult for men, and impossibly difficult for women.<br />

Only men were supposed to be any good at calculus, and<br />

the only goal for a woman was to get married and have a<br />

family. Since I enjoyed mathematics, physics and science<br />

in general, I wanted to show that there was no difference<br />

of ability between men and women, and to demonstrate<br />

to the world that I could work in science. I dreamed of<br />

having the same status in the scientific community as<br />

men. I did my primary schooling, in the 1950s, in cities<br />

(Mahdia and Jemmal) where the highest diploma women<br />

obtained was the Certificate of Primary Studies<br />

(Certificat d’études primaires), and none of the girls I was<br />

with obtained it. There were very few girls in my primary<br />

school: about 25 of us in the first year, but only 6 made it<br />

to the final year. In those days, girls went to school for<br />

three, four or maybe five years, and then got married at<br />

the age of 15. No girl thought of going on to secondary<br />

school. That meant going to another city. For me the nearest<br />

city was Sousse, which was 25 kilometers away, and that<br />

was quite a trip when there were no buses or cars.”<br />

A scientific awakening<br />

L’ORÉAL-UNESCO FOR WOMEN IN SCIENCE 2005<br />

L’ORÉAL-UNESCO AWARDS 2005: The Laureates<br />

“When Tunisia became independent in 1956 my family<br />

moved to Tunis, where I spent six years in a secondary<br />

school which was very good for French and Arabic but<br />

unfortunately not very good for the sciences. After<br />

independence, education became the Tunisian<br />

Government’s main concern, and in 1963, with my<br />

baccalauréat in mathematics, I went to the University of<br />

Tunis’s newly built Science Faculty. We were 200<br />

students, but only five of us were girls. At the time, for<br />

example, Tunisia did not have a single female engineer.<br />

Luckily for me, my family gave me their backing, clearly<br />

judging that any choice I had made was an act of will, and<br />

therefore good.<br />

“At the end of June every year a university professor<br />

would come from France to supervise our examinations.<br />

The Government would award fellowships to the best<br />

students - three, four or five a year - so that they could<br />

pursue engineering studies or do fundamental research<br />

in France. In 1967 I was nominated by the president of<br />

the jury and given the chance of studying for a Diploma of<br />

Further Studies (Diplôme d’études approfondies, DEA) in<br />

atomic spectroscopy in Paris; later I returned to earn a<br />

doctorate. Every Tuesday I would go to the Collège de<br />

France to attend lectures on quantum mechanics by<br />

Claude Cohen-Tannoudgi. He was a great teacher, who<br />

would guide you step by step into the world of the atom.<br />

Atomic physics seemed crystal clear when you listened to<br />

him! Abdus Salam was another Nobel laureate I<br />

admired. It was he who created the International Centre<br />

for Theoretical Physics in Trieste, Italy, where research<br />

physicists from developing countries can study alongside<br />

fellow scientists in a stimulating atmosphere and<br />

with the use of a well-resourced library. Travel and<br />

accommodation are provided. My husband - who is also a<br />

physicist - and I both had job offers in France, and were<br />

tempted to continue our careers there, but we chose to<br />

return to our country in spite of the fact that it lacked a<br />

scientific environment. It was hard, but we do not regret<br />

our decision. One has to be where one is most useful. At<br />

each stage in my career my mother would say, ‘Yayia el<br />

Elm’ (‘Science be praised’).”

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