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SIA Standards<br />

Kickoff Meeting – Intrusion Subcommittee<br />

Wednesday, October 5, 2011 – 3PM ET<br />

Draft <strong>Minutes</strong><br />

1. Call to Order and Opening Remarks<br />

The meeting was called to order at 3:02 PM. Mr. Nesse thanked participants for joining<br />

the call and requested we do a roll call before proceeding to Mr. Van Till’s opening<br />

remarks.<br />

Mr. Van Till addressed the group and gave a description of the landscape that we are<br />

working in. He talked about SIA’s harmonization efforts and how SIA plans to<br />

collaborate with other standards/specification bodies and the new Roadmap. He<br />

stressed participation from business leaders in getting their engineers involved, and<br />

using the working group as a forum to drive work products along.<br />

2. Roll Call<br />

A complete list of attendees is included as Attachment A.<br />

3. Approval of Draft Agenda<br />

Mr. Nesse asked for a motion to approve the draft agenda as structured<br />

L. Dischert/K. Harris<br />

Motion Passes with Unanimous consent.<br />

4. Committee Overview<br />

a. Recent Standards Restructuring – Mr. Nesse explained that this subcommittee<br />

was the Field Devices Interface Standards and oversaw activities related to<br />

direct communication standards, control panel standards including CP-01 and<br />

also activities such as the security industry glossary. The new subcommittee<br />

focuses on much of the same work, however the Glossary has been moved to<br />

the Framework subcommittee.<br />

b. DC-09 Review Project – this standard is coming up on review and there have<br />

been a few proposals and contributions presented.<br />

c. Other Standards Reviews – There are a number of standards coming up for<br />

revision that the group must decide on how we are to proceed.


d. DSC Fibro Protocol Publication – There has been talk about SIA Standards<br />

publishing and distributing the DSC Fibro protocol, this will be discussed<br />

e. CP-01 Status – A review of the CP-01 happenings since it’s release in 2010<br />

f. Glossary Project Status – Glossary update<br />

5. DC-09 Project Review<br />

a. Review Project Proposal (Attachment B)<br />

Mr. Nesse went over the highlights of the project proposal. The group had no<br />

questions about the proposal. The proposal will be forwarded to the SIA<br />

Standards Committee on November 2 nd for approval. Mr Nesse asked for a<br />

motion to forward the project proposal to the SIA Standards Committee for<br />

approval.<br />

R. Hinkson/L. Dischert<br />

Motion Passes with Unanimous Consent<br />

b. Review Contribution from Amstein & Walthert (Attachment C)<br />

Mr. Nesse summarized the contribution to the standard from Amstein &<br />

Walthert: as follows, and gave his own thoughts on whether the contribution<br />

would be beneficial to be included.<br />

2.1b Additional Parameters<br />

• MAC - matches existing, OK<br />

• alarm text: OK<br />

• site name: OK<br />

• building name: OK<br />

• location: OK<br />

• room: OK<br />

• trigger: OK, may conflict with or duplicate the data message, but seems a<br />

useful extension<br />

• X, Y, Z: OK<br />

• an extension of ASCII to allow accented characters should be considered<br />

(how is this extension defined?)


Is the intent to send multiple messages to send more information to describe an<br />

event, or to define a delimiter? It seems multiple messages are more likely to<br />

be acceptable due to limitations on the overall message length.<br />

1.2 Sequential Retransmission<br />

The proposed sequence appears reasonable and effective. Perhaps this can be<br />

added as annex material.<br />

2.2 Examples<br />

The UML sequence diagrams appear effective and would be a good addition to<br />

the document.<br />

1.3 Monitoring of the Connection<br />

This information seems to go beyond the scope of the protocol standard. If<br />

included at all, it would be annex material.<br />

1.3a Transmission Parameter<br />

This too is beyond the protocol spec, but seems to be useful annex material<br />

once the details are defined.<br />

1.3b Redundancy<br />

This information seems to go beyond the scope of the protocol standard. If<br />

included at all, it would be annex material.<br />

1.4, 2.4 Messages for Reverse Commands<br />

It may not be feasible to document these requirements, and polling intervals are<br />

generally too long to allow reasonable response times for commands. Also, it<br />

generally doesn't make sense to administer this through the receivers- in most<br />

systems where it started in the receivers it has been moved to a separate PC<br />

application.<br />

1 NAK<br />

The transmitter should process the NAK message to set its internal time<br />

reference to that of the receiver so that the next message can be accepted. This<br />

seems clear in the document: "in order to allow the transmitter to adjust its<br />

internal clock". Generally, the transmitter would maintain a time base<br />

independently of the user-viewable time base, as even with mandated GMT<br />

time usage, it is common that the time used by the central station and the time<br />

used by the user are not the same.


2 Error Handling<br />

Handling for a wrong CRC (checksum) or time stamp are specifically covered in<br />

the existing document. Incorrect decryption would cause a checksum failure.<br />

The DUH message is intended as a catchall for messages that are<br />

"unprocessable" for other reasons, so it would be difficult to further define this.<br />

1 Check Criterion<br />

The existing extended data definition to carry the MAC address seems sufficient.<br />

Should this field become mandatory for some implementations?<br />

2 Encrypted Size<br />

Less effort is being expended in newer designs to reduce data size, so that the<br />

data encoding is more robust and more easily debugged.<br />

3 Checklist of Main Requirements<br />

This would be an excellent annex.<br />

4 Token Table<br />

It's generally avoided to duplicate information from one standard in another<br />

document to keep the two documents from coming into later conflict. But<br />

repeating the reference table as an annex would be reasonable.<br />

1 Data Encryption<br />

The document references FIPS 197 for AES encryption. Use of encryption is<br />

certainly desirable, but this standard does not need to mandate its use.<br />

2 Hash<br />

The encryption provides enough of a signature to satisfy most message<br />

authentication requirements, but a scheme to include a specific signature could<br />

be designed and included in the standard.<br />

3 2009 Errata<br />

This information needs to be incorporated in the published document.<br />

4 Formatting<br />

The document could be reformatted to improve clarity.<br />

5 prEN 50136-1-7 Interoperability<br />

Considerable analysis would be required to comment on the feasibility of<br />

defining a translation from one protocol to the next.


c. Next steps<br />

Schedule a meeting of this committee with the primary focus of tackling DC-09.<br />

This meeting will be discussed at the end of the call.<br />

6. Other Standards Reviews (Brief Discussion & Prioritize)<br />

a. DC-03 -- Digital Communications Standard<br />

i. There were no thoughts on this standard, Mr. Nesse suggested a<br />

superficial update.<br />

b. DC-04 – SIA 2000 Protocol<br />

i. Mr. Hinkson said that he has seen some receiver implementations, but<br />

isn’t sure that it got any traction, one route would be to move that this<br />

standard be withdrawn.<br />

c. DC-05 – Ademco ® Contact ID Protocol<br />

i. SIA Distribution of new definitions<br />

ii. Publish updated event table<br />

iii. Rich Hinkson from Ademco said that he can send the documents to SIA<br />

and have them distributed with the standard.<br />

d. DC-07 – Receiver to Computer Interface Protocol (Type 2)<br />

i. Normal, superficial update may be in order<br />

e. AV-01 -- Audio Verification Standard Protocol for Audio Verification and Two-<br />

Way Voice - Monitoring Service Command Set<br />

i. Reaffirm possible without an update<br />

f. MSD-01 – Monitoring Practices Standard<br />

i. ANSI Standard that hasn’t been updated since 2000<br />

ii. Has been a candidate for administratively withdrawn<br />

iii. PINS in place, we can reaffirm or review within the next few<br />

g. PIR-01 -- Passive Infrared Motion Detector Standard Revisions<br />

i. Mr. Hinkson mentioned that PIR-01 for QC testing as a reference<br />

ii. Mr. Reimer from Bosch volunteered to look into the usage within his<br />

company.


7. DSC Fibro Protocol<br />

a. Status Update<br />

This standard was supposed to be released similar to the DC-05 standard, at this<br />

point we are waiting for DSC to send an email back to begin the process. Kevin<br />

Harris from DSC volunteered to contact the correct people internally for<br />

approval.<br />

b. Application Guide<br />

This could cover some specialized use cases and informal applications that can<br />

be published after the specification is green-lit.<br />

8. CP-01<br />

a. Current Status<br />

The last meeting clarified that manufacturers can label their product as<br />

compliant to older versions of CP-01 as long as they make clear to what version<br />

the product is compliant to.<br />

b. Call for Volunteers to Lead CP-01 Working Group<br />

SIA would like to have someone close to the effort take over leadership of the<br />

working group. A call for volunteers will be released in the upcoming weeks.<br />

9. Glossary project<br />

a. Current Status<br />

160+ definitions are available and are housed on www.securityglossary.wikispaces.net<br />

b. Call for Volunteers to Lead Working Group<br />

A call for volunteers will also be distributed to lead this group<br />

10. Adjournment & Next Steps<br />

Mr. Nesse proposed a meeting of the committee after ISC Solutions that will consider 2<br />

topics. Disposition of renewed/withdrawn standards and also an in-depth DC-09<br />

conversation. In order to make it more accessible for participants from Europe the<br />

proposed time would be 8AM PT.


Mr. Nesse entertained a motion to adjourn at 4:05PM<br />

Dischert/Hinkson


Attachment A – List of Participants<br />

Organization<br />

ADT<br />

AES<br />

AES<br />

Amstein & Walthert<br />

Bosch<br />

Bosch<br />

Bosch<br />

Brivo<br />

Honeywell<br />

Honeywell<br />

North Lattitude<br />

Tyco<br />

UL<br />

UTC<br />

Participant<br />

Larry Dischert<br />

Bill Goretkin<br />

Jim Lynch<br />

Stephane Jacquet<br />

Micheal Reimer<br />

Bryan Matthewson<br />

Denis Caler<br />

Steve Van Till<br />

Rich Hinkson<br />

Linda Ortezi<br />

Ted Nesse<br />

Kevin Harris<br />

Bryon Monte<br />

Kevin Flanders

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