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Commission, ikarehwo Nairobi handu ha gutuarwo kuria ng’ombe iri. So sometimes some knowledge is important if you are a<br />

minister but you are right in the sense that we need to be very clear where the policy maker should be. Whether the policy<br />

maker should within the parliament or the ministry itself because ministers are policy makers not the implementors like the<br />

Permanent Secretaries. But that discussion is going to continue in the National Constitutional Conference.<br />

Now, Joshua said that 15 ministries are too few, therefore, he would want to increase them. I think uria mundu agirirwo ni<br />

kwiyuria ni which ones are the key Ministries and so on. But also ungi-imagine the number, I think we have 45 Ministers and<br />

Assistant Ministers I think they are about 60 – they are very many and they are also a big burden. Tariu Office of the President<br />

ri, why do we have so many Assistant Ministers and I think they are 4 Ministers what are they doing<br />

So may be as we re-structure the govt. tondu tura move towards making the government smaller, we talked about lessening the<br />

govt. the expanding participation ya andu so that the govt. becomes the manager rather than the implementor. But again that is<br />

going to be debated more in the National Conference.<br />

I think the need for the upper house I talked about it a little and I am also saying that this is also another debate in the National<br />

Conference. The only thing I wanted to add haha ni ati like I said the costing of the government ni irekwo and by the time we<br />

start the National Conference the costing will be made clear. How much are we paying now, na difference ingikorwo iri iriku.<br />

Considering also that matiri na power kuma Katiba ini ya ku-raise their own salaries.<br />

Now, supervision ya political parties – Joshua – you are right the Electoral Commission ino turi nayo tiyo turaria uhoro wayo,<br />

and I ama glad the councillor reminded us about this, tondu ringi tukihe powers to the Electoral Commission twageragia<br />

kwiririkania ati we are not talking about the Electoral Commission made by the Kivuitu but we are thinking about the Elections<br />

Commission njeru and you know there are 22 Commissioners, this is also very expensive so we have reduced them to 8. There<br />

are 8 Commissioners, they are going to be independent, they are going to go through Ethics and Integrity Committee nigetha ma<br />

vetwo in the same way the other people megukorwo maki-vett-wo (interjection: inaudible)<br />

Turi na appointments cia commissioners which I think they are in page 34, where we have – sorry I have seen something<br />

missing in the appointment of the commission, but let’s check under the electoral process which comes earlier, article 83 so can<br />

you see page 84 – establishment of the commission, - sorry I think there is something missing the appointment of the<br />

commission is not there and it is under the general provision, there is something missing and we will rectify. But most of the<br />

commissioners are only appointed by the President after approval by parliament itself. So that some of the Commissioners who<br />

are dealing under the Public Service or Judicial Service or Electoral Commission, the names are proposed to parliament, the<br />

parliament approves and then gives to the Parliament, the President signs. But I will check again. But it is supposed to be an<br />

independent Commission, both 8 Commissioners and they are not appointed by the President. The appointment in this<br />

particular case is ceremonial but they are actually approved by parliament. So it should be a much better Commission than

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