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the big picture. Charlie is the best reporter and<br />

interviewer on television, so the fact that I get<br />

to sit next to him is incredible. My mom says all<br />

the time, “Do you believe the people you work<br />

with!”<br />

Gayle asks the question which everyone at home<br />

is really thinking. She’s very direct, very real. I<br />

think that’s a constant reminder that sometimes<br />

we have to remember that our viewers at home<br />

are thinking ‘God, I wish I could ask that person<br />

this question’ and Gayle always seems to have<br />

her finger on what America is thinking or people<br />

are thinking.<br />

Your interview with President Ahmadinejad<br />

of Iran that you did with Charlie was quite a<br />

fascinating and revealing interview. What were you thinking while you<br />

were listening to his answers<br />

It was quite an interview and I give Charlie a lot for credit because<br />

he’s regularly had interviews with Ahmadinejad for the past two or three<br />

years. Charlie asked me, “Would like you to do the interview with me this<br />

time” And I said, “That’s great, thank you.” In our field most big anchors<br />

don’t choose to share those big gets. Those are so exclusive and hard<br />

fought, so it was incredibly gracious and generous for Charlie to ask me<br />

to do the interview with him. I said, “Well that’s great, but the Iranians will<br />

never let it happen. They’ll never let a woman interview Ahmadinejad.”<br />

Our executive producer said, “I’m sure Charlie worked it out.”<br />

Lo and behold, I walk into this room with incredibly tight security and<br />

Ahmadinejad’s press person comes forwards to say hello and I reach out<br />

my hand and of course he said, “I’m sorry. I cant shake your hand.” So<br />

that was an immediate reminder of where I was. Then I sat down and I<br />

was told I cant cross my legs. And of course he never addressed me by<br />

my name even though Charlie introduced me; “This is <strong>Norah</strong> O’Donnell,<br />

she is my co-host, I brought her because she is the smarter of us two.”<br />

He (Ahmadinejad) frequently called me “the lady.”<br />

But Charlie was called by his name.<br />

Yes. But if you watch it, I asked him some<br />

pretty tough questions. I said “You say you’re<br />

not interfering in Syria. With all do respect,<br />

you are interfering with Syria.” And he would<br />

turn and look at Charlie and say, “The lady<br />

says I’m doing this….”<br />

It was an incredible experience. That’s why<br />

journalism is incredibly thrilling but also why<br />

I take it so seriously. We get the opportunity<br />

to ask world leaders with enormous financial<br />

and military power what they’re doing, when<br />

most of the time most of these leaders don’t<br />

face very tough questions from most of their<br />

followers.<br />

He had an agenda to deliver regardless of<br />

what the question was.<br />

Most people in power will answer the question the way they want<br />

regardless of what you ask them. A lot of them are very much on message.<br />

You debuted on 60 Minutes with Facebook’s Sheryl Sandberg and it made<br />

a lot of headlines. Did you expect that kind of reaction to the interview<br />

Yes, I did. I knew this was going to be a big book and I knew it was<br />

going to create a lot of buzz. I knew it was going to generate a new<br />

discussion of what I call feminism 2.0 – which is about why there aren’t<br />

more women in leadership positions. But I didn’t realize how fierce both<br />

sides of the opinions were on this debate from women. I think its because<br />

women generally feel under fire. Women in the workplace feel like they’re<br />

being questioned about how much time they’re spending at home and<br />

whether they’re doing a good job. Women at home are questioned about<br />

whether they should be in the workplace or what they’re doing at home<br />

or how they could be doing more. Because its really tough to be a stay<br />

at home mom and have all those responsibilities and not have any help.<br />

I think that’s why it has provoked so much of a discussion and I think<br />

there’s a real question out there which is a genuinely good question to<br />

ask, which is; Why there aren’t more women in leadership<br />

When I was trying to make a decision whether to stay with NBC or go<br />

My mom says all<br />

the time, “Do you<br />

believe the people<br />

you work with!”<br />

20June 2013<br />

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