Transcript Historical Minute Book 1977 to 1993 - Ashdown Forest

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d) Commoners Voting - Proposed Amendment to the 1974 Ashdown Forest Act. The Superintendent reported that the matter was to be discussed in Committee in the County Council at the end of August and should the County Council agree to forward the amendment, the Bill would be deposited in the Autumn of 1979. It could therefore receive the Royal Assent in July 1980 and the amended form of voting could therefore be operative in March 1981. e) Courses for Rangers. The Countryside Commission was arranging various courses which might well be suitable for Rangers. These courses included such items as Public Relations and Interpretation. The cost of the courses would be in the region of £40-£50 but a subsidy of 50 per cent would be available. It was agreed that Rangers should be sent on suitable courses provided that they could be spared from the Forest. There being no further business the Meeting closed at 16.45 p.m.Chairman MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE CONSERVATORS OF ASHDOWN FOREST HELD AT THE VILLAGE HALL, FOREST ROW, ON WEDNESDAY 20th. SEPTEMBER 1978 at 2.30 p.m. PRESENT • Brigadier L.M. Scott (in the Chair), Mrs. C.M. Maudslay, Miss B. Willard, Hon. C.A.S. Grimston, Messrs. R.G. Edwardes-Jones, B.J. Glover, L.C. Hardy, D.L. Kavanagh, F. Kennard, J.A.A.S. Logan, A.J. Miller. 1. APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE Messrs. E.W. Ellison, J. Gent, M.G. Taylor, A.L.H. White, G.H. Wills. 2. MINUTES The Minutes of the Meeting held on 19th. July 1978 were agreed and signed by the Chairman. 3. MATTERS ARISING a) Job Creation Programme. The Superintendent reported that the programme was now under way, having started on 4th. September. We have six young people and two Supervisors who are working on Car Parks at Chelwood Gate and Hindleap. b) Mr. Edwardes-Jones enquired how the arrangements with the horse were progressing. The Superintendent reported that it was going quite well and that the horse box would be arriving next day. When this was in use it would be possible to assess the full potential of the scheme. 4. REPORT ON AUDIT The Superintendent read the following report from the District Auditor: "The audit of the accounts of the Conservators for the year ended 31 March 1978 has been completed. There are no matters on which it is necessary for me to make a report to the Conservators under section 157 of the Local Government Act 1972. The appropriate certificate has been entered on the Balance Sheet in accordance with regulation 12 of the Accounts and Audit Regulations 1974. My thanks are due for the courteous assistance afforded at the audit." Signed E.S. SANT - District Auditor The Board’s attention was drawn to the new Balance Sheet which showed the amended figures under income and expenditure. The amendment being due to an error in presentation on the V.A.T. account by the Accountant: The amended figure showed that instead of an over expenditure of £70.00, the true position was that expenditure was £91.00 under the estimated figures. 5. FINANCIAL STATEMENT
The Superintendent presented the Financial Statement as at 1st. September. There were no specific points to draw to the Board’s attention. He advised the Board that the estimates for 1979/80 would shortly have to be submitted to the County Council although the County had net yet given a date for this. It was probable that the date would be before the next Board Meeting and he suggested that an Estimates Committee be set up to agree the provisional estimates, which would then be presented to the Board for final approval at the next Meeting. It was agreed that a Committee consisting of the Chairman, Mr. Hardy, Mr. Edwardes-Jones, and Mr. Wills and should have authority to agree the provisional estimates for submission to the East Sussex County Council. At Mr. Edwardes-Jones’ suggestion, it was further agreed that a representative of the County Planning Department or County Treasurers Department be invited to sit in on the Estimates Committee Meeting in order to give advice. 6. CONSERVATION OFFICER’S REPORT The Conservation Corps were working on the Forest between 21st. July and 14th. August. Although they did about 200 man days (or nearly 1 man year) of work on clearing naturally regenerating birch and Scots pine from three of the prime areas of heather on the west side, approximately ** acres of heather were cleared but these ranged from areas which required relatively few man days to those which required a very large number of man days. When not working with the Conservation Corps he was preparing proposals for the Interpretation of Ashdown Forest, the results of which were forwarded to the Board with the Agenda for this Meeting. Since this paper was prepared further discussions on interpretation have been had with both East Sussex County Council and DART. The first of the Car Parks on the current year’s programme of work was started at the beginning of September when the new Manpower Services Commission Team was recruited. 7.LAYOUT OF CAR PARKS H49 and G44 Dtailed Plans for the Car Parks were displayed on the board and were described by the Conservation Officer. The question of commercial vehicles using the Poundgate Road Car Park was raised as this is quite a popular Car Park with lorry drivers. Mr. Wright advised the Board that small commercial vehicles would be able to get in and out without causing any damage, but a problem might exist with the heavy vehicles. The access to the park would be deliberately constructed so as to discourage large vehicles entering. The Superintendent suggested that it might be possible that the County Council would make a lay-by near the car park and the Chairman asked him to investigate this. 8. VEGETATION PLANS A plan for the vegetation control of the Twyford Lane/Wych Cross area was displayed on the board. Mr. Wright gave brief details of the plan and of the work which had already been carried out by the Conservation Corps. There was general discussion and suggestions regarding the sale of trees or wood from the site and the Conservation Officer reported that this had been investigated but it was not a viable proposition: 9. PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE ASHDOWN FOREST ACT The General Purposes Committee recommended that an amendment should be sought to the Ashdown Forest Act 1974 in order to give the Conservators power to engage in management of camping and caravan sites on land not being part of Ashdown Forest. The Superintendent reported that there was a shortage of camping sites in the immediate district around Ashdown Forest and that many people visiting the Forest Had nowhere to go to stay overnight. The Rangers were inundated with requests for directions to the nearest camp site and in many cases people had to move on, almost to the coast. There had been two instances in the last few years when it might have been possible for the Conservators to be involved in running a camp site in the vicinity of the Forest. In both these instances the Conservators could, with the minimum of work have achieved a financial gain from these operations. They would not have operated the camp sites on their own but would have engaged the Camping Club or some similar organisation to do so on their behalf. He considered that it was advisable that this matter was discussed at the next Commoners Annual General Meeting in March 1979. Although an operation of this nature would have no affect whatsoever on the Rights of Common of Ashdown Forest, it was possible that some people felt so strongly about camping of any nature in their district that there might be some opposition from Commoners, in which case it was unlikely that the East Sussex County Council would proceed with an amendment to the Act. Mr. Kavanagh proposed that the East Sussex County Council be asked to include an amendment of this nature in their legislation, which was to be put before Parliament next year, with the proviso that, after the Commoners Annual General
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Page 3 and 4: local residents wish to park their
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Page 7 and 8: (3) Non Commoners Single permit £1
Page 9 and 10: COMMITTED DEFICIT 29550 31830 1977/
Page 11 and 12: Grant of 75% £5,850 Total cost to
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Page 19 and 20: 9. ANY OTHER GENERAL BUSINESS The s
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Page 23 and 24: fact that the commoners had no sepa
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Page 27 and 28: i. Commemoration Tree in Memory of
Page 29: A number of groups from local schoo
Page 33 and 34: CASH AND BANK POSITION Current Acco
Page 35 and 36: INCOME 1 st estimate Deficit Additi
Page 37 and 38: ) Estimates 1979/80 - The normal ex
Page 39 and 40: PRESENT: Brigadier L.M. Scott (in t
Page 41 and 42: 3. ELECTION OF TWO CONSERVATORS. Th
Page 43 and 44: The proposal by the Conservators to
Page 45 and 46: A general discussion followed regar
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Page 51 and 52: THE BOARD WENT INTO COMMITTEE See C
Page 53 and 54: number of sheep now on the forest a
Page 55 and 56: A Meeting of the Model Aircraft Com
Page 57 and 58: SUMMARY OF RECOMMENDATIONS There sh
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Page 61 and 62: 6. AMENDMENT TO THE ASHDOWN FOREST
Page 63 and 64: d) Compulsory Purchase King Standin
Page 65 and 66: 1. APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE Apologies
Page 67 and 68: 8. TO FIX THE DATES OF CONSERVATORS
Page 69 and 70: Mr. Edwardes-Jones proposed that Mr
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Page 73 and 74: Dear Sir, 1979/80 Audit The audit o
Page 75 and 76: 2. MINUTES The Minutes of the Meeti
Page 77 and 78: Implications The interpretive servi
Page 79 and 80: The Chairman stated that he had rea
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The Committee RECOMMEND that the Co
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The Trust had authorised funds for
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4. THE ASHDOWN FOREST CONSERVATION
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The Minutes were approved and signe
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a) Fires. There were several fires
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Mrs. Sheldrick requested that the A
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f) Roadway at Highgate Green. The C
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THE BOARD CAME OUT OF COMMITTEE The
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3. MATTERS ARISING a) Browns Brook.
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The Committee had considered two re
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it should be declared as part of th
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The Chairman advised the Board of t
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Mr. Kennard reported that he and Mi
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) Organised Barbecues. The Superint
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The Committee had also inspected an
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After a lengthy discussion, Mr. Edw
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The Committee felt that serious con
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Mr. Morgan reported that Mr. Hobden
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MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE CONSE
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The Audited Accounts had already be
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Countryside Commission as a basis f
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5. TO RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE RO
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The Superintendent advised the Boar
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Mr. White enquired whether any info
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1 Mr. Kennard thanked the Board and
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4 a) Fires: The Superintendent repo
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The Chairman invited Miss Lumsden t
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today, and that Lt. Cdr. J.P. Angel
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2. MINUTES Subject to the following
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In a letter to the Chairman, Mr. Ba
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years, but felt that we would still
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The Chairman expressed the Board's
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The Chairman advised the Board that
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8. SUNDRY MATTERS The Superintenden
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A brief discussion ensued on the po
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Being the first Meeting of the year
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There being no other business, the
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4. TO RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE CO
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MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE CONSE
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2. MINUTES The Minutes of the meeti
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There being no further business the
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A vote of thanks to the Conservator
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The Accounts were accepted by the B
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After discussion it was agreed that
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The Superintendent explained that h
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Sir Frederick Sowrey presented the
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The Chairman advised that, in view
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The Chairman reported that a number
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have a Licence and the Superintende
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7. SUNDRY MATTERS The Superintenden
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This amendment was put to the vote
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7. TO RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE RI
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Subject to the following amendment,
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Conservators and would require a re
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With regard to item 7, Mrs. Whitley
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which will sell at **** per pack of
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Apologies were received from Miss A
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The Chairman said as the Management
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5. TO RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE RO
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a) Mrs. Gabriel raised the subject
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Mrs. Whitley moved the adoption of
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3. MATTERS ARISING The Chairman inf
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Mrs. Gabriel enquired if the Distri
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Present: Mrs. A. J. Sheldrick (In t
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The Superintendent replied that a J
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The Chairman replied that it was im
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Mrs. Sheldrick said that the coppic
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Mr. Hughes explained the East Susse
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Mrs. Whitley proposed the Board acc
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The Superintendent reported that he
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The Chairman welcomed Mr. D. H. 0.
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Sir Frederick suggested writing to
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The Superintendent said the Country
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The Superintendent reported on a ro
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The Superintendent reported on his
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The Board agreed the brief prepared
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urgent attention. The Riding Commit
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6. To receive the Minutes of the Co
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The Superintendent referring to Ite
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Mrs. Gabriel, as a member of the Pa
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The Superintendent reported that th
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Mr. Carter referring to Item 9(c) e
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Mr. Richardson, Divisional Engineer
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Ashdown Forest as a complete packag
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Superintendent said that the local
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The Minutes, which had been circula
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The Superintendent referring to Ite
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The Chairman replied that there was
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Following discussions with Mr. Saun
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Mrs. Gabriel confirmed that a meeti
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The Chairman then asked the Board f
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