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The Redaction of the Talmud Come and hear. One may cover a beehive on Shabbat lying in the sun to shade it from the sun, and one may cover it during the rain to shield it from the rain, on the condition that one does not do so with the intention of trapping the bees. The Gemara answers: This is not a proof that one may move an object even for another one which cannot be carried on Shabbat. This case is dealing with a beehive that has honey inside it [and is therefore being moved for the sake of the honey]. Rav Ukva from Meshan challenged Rav Ashi. The assertion [that we are dealing with a beehive containing honey] is reasonable during the summer [when it is common for beehives] to contain honey. However, during the rainy months, when there is no honey to be found in beehives, how can we explain the baraita? [The Gemara answers that] we are referring to the two honeycombs [that are always to be found in the beehive]… After continuing the give-and-take and adding additional interpretations, the Gemara quotes Rav Ashi: Rav Ashi said: does it say [in the baraita] during the summer days and the rainy days? It [only] says in the sun because of the sun, in the rain because of the rain. [We can say that] the baraita is talking about the month of Nissan and the month of Tishrei when [it is common to have] sun, rain and honey. The question to be raised in this passage is obvious. Why did Rav Ashi not respond immediately to Rav Ukva? Why is there a lengthy discussion intended at answering Rav Ukva’s objection only after which Rav Ashi produces a response? Tosafot offer an answer: “Rav Ashi probably answered this to Rav Ukva immediately. The “Shas” (Gemara) however placed its answer first.” 46
Rabbi Meir Triebitz Who is the “Shas” that Tosafot is referring to? It is clearly not Rav Ashi himself, but rather someone who came after Rav Ashi who redacted the give and take of the above passage. We see clearly that Tosafot understood that there was an anonymous redactor after Rav Ashi even of questions and answers which were posed in Rav Ashi’s lifetime. Clearly, although Tosafot considered Rav Ashi to be the final redactor (as we saw above) he was by far not the last. The plain reading of the Gemara’s assertion in Bava Metzia 86a “Ravina and Rav Ashi are the end of hora’ah” is, as we have seen above, that Rav Ashi and Ravina redacted the Babylonian Talmud. Rabbi Isaac Stein, however, in his commentary on the Sefer Mitzvot Gedolot understands that passage to directly imply that the Talmud was in fact completed after Rav Ashi. He claims that it would be unusual for Rav Ashi to have written “praise about himself”, and that therefore “the statement is more likely to be attributed to someone who lived after him”. Similarly, Rav Sherira Gaon’s opinion is that the Talmud was completed during the period of Rabbanan Savorai during the lifetime of Rav Yossi. To quote the entire passage as it appears in his epistle: [Rav Ashi] passed away in 735. Rav Yaimar ruled (i.e. sat at the head of the Sanhedrin) in the city of Chasia and passed away in 743. [After him ruled] Rav Idi bar Avin and passed away in 763. [After him ruled] Rav Nachmnan bar Rav Huna who passed away in 766. Rav Tivyumi, who is Mar bar Rav Ashi, ruled in Michala and passed away on the night following Yom Kippur. After him [ruled] Rav Taspa’ah who passed away in 781 on the fourth day of [the Hebrew month of) Shevat. On the thirteenth of Kislev of the year 786 passed away Ravina, the son of Rav Huna. He is the Ravina who is called the end of hora’ah.... in the year 787 Rav Sammah the son of Rava passed away. After him ruled Rav Yossi and in his lifetime hora’ah ended and the Talmud was concluded. (RSG 97). 47
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