34Mr. GREENWOOD. The Chair thanks the gentleman. The Chairnow calls our witnesses and thanks the first panel of witnesses andthanks all of them for their patience.I would call Dr. Thomas B. Okarma, Ph.D. and M.D. who is thePresident and CEO of Geron Corporation and is testifying on behalfof the Biotechnology Industry Organization. Also, Dr. Mark E.Westhusin, Ph.D., Associate Professor of Texas A&M University,College of Veterinary Medicine; Dr. Rudolph Jaenisch, Ph.D., Professorof Biology, Massachusetts Institute of Technology; Dr. PanosMichael Zavos, Ed.S., Ph.D., Founder, Director and ChiefAndrologist, Andrology Institute of America; and Dr. BrigitteBoisselier, Scientific Director of Clonaid. Welcome, thank you forcoming.You are aware that the committee is holding an investigativehearing and when doing so has had the practice of taking testimonyunder oath.Do you have any objections to testifying under oath? Very well.The Chair then advises you that under the rules of the Houseand the rules of the committee, you are entitled to be advised bycounsel, if you desire to be advised by counsel during your testimonytoday.I see no affirmative responses.In that case, if you would please rise and raise your right hand,I will swear you in. Do you swear that the testimony you are aboutto give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?Thank you.[Witnesses sworn.]Witnesses may be seated in the order in which I introducedthem, we’ll begin with Dr. Okarma. For the benefit of all of the witnesses,you probably have noticed these little black boxes on thetable. When you begin your testimony, you’ll see the green light.You have 5 minutes for your testimony. You’ll get the yellow lightat 2 minutes, that’s your 2 minute warning and at the red light wewould ask you to please quickly summarize and desist.Dr. Okarma, you are recognized for 5 minutes.STATEMENTS OF THOMAS B. OKARMA, PRESIDENT AND CEO,GERON CORPORATION; MARK E. WESTHUSIN, ASSOCIATEPROFESSOR OF TEXAS A&M UNIVERSITY, COLLEGE OF VET-ERINARY MEDICINE; RUDOLPH JAENISCH, PROFESSOR OFBIOLOGY, MASSACHUSETTS INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY;PANOS MICHAEL ZAVOS, FOUNDER, DIRECTOR AND CHIEFANDROLOGIST, ANDROLOGY INSTITUTE OF AMERICA; ANDBRIGITTE BOISSELIER, SCIENTIFIC DIRECTOR OF CLONAIDMr. OKARMA. Good afternoon. I am Tom Okarma, the Presidentand Chief Executive Officer of Geron Corporation in Menlo Park,California. Geron is a biopharmaceutical company focused on commercializingtherapeutic and diagnostic products for applications inoncology——Mr. GREENWOOD. Dr. Okarma, could you pull the microphone alittle closer to yourself?Mr. OKARMA. Geron is a biopharmaceutical company focused ondiscovering and commercializing therapeutic and diagnostic prod-VerDate 11-MAY-2000 07:46 May 24, 2001 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00038 Fmt 6633 Sfmt 6602 71495.TXT HCOM2 PsN: HCOM2
35ucts for applications in oncology, drug discovery and regenerativemedicine.I’m testifying today on behalf of my company and the BiotechnologyIndustry Organization known as BIO. BIO representsmore than 950 biotechnology companies, academic institutions,State biotechnology centers and related organizations in all 50 U.S.states and 33 other nations.Mr. Chairman and members of the subcommittee, thank you forthe opportunity to testify today at this important hearing oncloning. Let me start by making our position perfectly clear. BIOopposes human reproductive cloning. It is simply too dangeroustechnically and raises far too many technical and social questions.That’s why BIO wrote to President Bush last month and urgedhim to extend the voluntary moratorium on human reproductivecloning which was instituted in 1997. I would respectfully ask forthis letter to be included in the hearing record.It would be extremely dangerous to attempt human reproductivecloning. In fact, in most animals reproductive cloning has no betterthan a 3 to 5 percent success rate, that is, very few of the clonedanimal embryos implanted in a surrogate mother animal survive.The others either die in utero, sometimes at very late stages ofpregnancy or die soon thereafter. It is simply unacceptable to subjecthumans to those risks.The Food and Drug Administration has publicly stated that ithas jurisdiction over human reproductive cloning experiments andthat it would not approve them. BIO supports that view.It’s critical, however, to distinguish use of cloning technology tocreate a new human being (reproductive cloning) from other appropriateand important uses of the technology, such as cloning specifichuman cells, genes and other tissues that do not and cannotlead to a cloned human being, so called therapeutic cloning. Thesetechniques are integral to the production of breakthrough medicines,diagnostics and vaccines, to treat heart attacks, various cancers,Alzheimer’s disease, diabetes, hepatitis and other diseases.This type of therapeutic cloning could also produce replacementskin, cartilage and bone for burn and accident victims and resultin ways to regenerate retinal and spinal cord tissue.My company, Geron, as well as many other companies and academiclaboratories, use cloning technology for many beneficial purposes.Let me explain how we use it to develop products that couldrevolutionize medicine and improve the lives of people sufferingfrom serious illnesses.Many diseases result in the disruption of cellular function or destructionof tissue. Heart attacks, stroke and diabetes are examplesof common conditions in which critical cells are lost to disease. Today’smedicine is unable to completely restore this loss of function.Regenerative medicine, a new therapeutic paradigm, holds the potentialto cause an individual’s currently malfunctioning cells tobegin to function properly again or even to replace dead or irreparablydamaged cells with fresh, healthy ones, thereby restoringorgan function.At Geron, therapeutic cloning technology is one of the techniqueswe use to create pure populations of functional new cells that canreplace damaged cells in the body. For example, we’re learning howVerDate 11-MAY-2000 07:46 May 24, 2001 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00039 Fmt 6633 Sfmt 6602 71495.TXT HCOM2 PsN: HCOM2
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152John A. Robertson, University of