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4615:44:231 in May 1993 and thereafter, that the drawdowns appeared to have been signed by2 <strong>Mr</strong>. Maguire -- sorry, <strong>Mr</strong>. O'Callaghan and <strong>Mr</strong>. Pitcher.3 A. Yes, two directors, in accordance with the bank mandate.4 Q. 283 And we know from evidence received here, <strong>Mr</strong>. Deane, that <strong>Mr</strong>. Gilmartin was15:44:415 ringing the bank in March '93 and was raising what were referred to as "old6 issues" that he had raised with the bank in the past. In other words, he was7 complaining to the bank and to Ms. Basquille?8 A. I think <strong>Mr</strong>. Gilmartin complained on a regular basis, yes.9 Q. 284 And we know that <strong>Mr</strong>. Gilmartin had raised complaints about monies being paid to15:45:1310 <strong>Mr</strong>. Shefran and to <strong>Mr</strong>. Dunlop, isn't that right?11 A. As far as I'm aware he signed <strong>of</strong>f on those payments.12 Q. 285 He signed <strong>of</strong>f on two payments I think in October 1992, which had been made I13 think the previous April and a second one the previous June.14 A. But he also signed <strong>of</strong>f the accounts I think and within the accounts were all15:45:4015 those Shefran payments --16 Q. 286 And also within the accounts that he signed <strong>of</strong>f on were the two 10,000 pounds17 payments to <strong>Mr</strong>. Lawlor and <strong>Mr</strong>. McGrath, isn't that correct?18 A. Yes.19 Q. 287 And he signed <strong>of</strong>f on those on the basis that they had been paid to him and his15:45:5220 loan account had been reduced by the payments?21 A. Yes but again he signed <strong>of</strong>f on those, he had the opportunity to consider them.22 He got lists <strong>of</strong> items from Deloittes and by what we saw today, he seems to have23 written back agreeing with them. So I can't put it any further than that. He24 agreed with these. And yes, he used to complain regularly.15:46:1425 Q. 288 Yes. And evidence given here, <strong>Mr</strong>. Deane, by <strong>Mr</strong>. Gilmartin has been to the26 effect that he complained and I don't want to be provocative but he complained27 that yourself and <strong>Mr</strong>. O'Callaghan were "a pair <strong>of</strong> gangsters" isn't that28 correct? You've seen that evidence?29 A. I certainly have indeed.15:46:3530 Q. 289 And he did he ever make that complaint in your presence prior to givingPremier Captioning & Realtime Limitedwww.pcr.ie Day 881
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