very interested in collaborati<strong>on</strong> with our many colleagues and weare especially interested in <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> progress <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> our discipline. It istotally within our rights to questi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>se correlati<strong>on</strong>s and, in fact,it is good for our science. Progress in science is <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten achievedwhen an accepted interpretati<strong>on</strong> is openly questi<strong>on</strong>ed and debated.However, c<strong>on</strong>tinued progress requires <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> applicati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> establishedscientific principles. In this case, it requires careful analysisand proper citati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> literature, possible restudy <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> old andnew collecti<strong>on</strong>s, and an open mind. Shil<strong>on</strong>g Mei and I have questi<strong>on</strong>edthis correlati<strong>on</strong> because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> results <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> our work at <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>Loudian secti<strong>on</strong> in South China where c<strong>on</strong>od<strong>on</strong>ts and fusulinaceansare found in successi<strong>on</strong>. The exact same c<strong>on</strong>od<strong>on</strong>t successi<strong>on</strong> isrepeated at Lianhuaao secti<strong>on</strong> and <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> exact same fusulinaceansuccessi<strong>on</strong> is found at Houchang secti<strong>on</strong>. We will report moreresults <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> our analysis in <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> next Permophiles in a more-c<strong>on</strong>sideredreply. Until <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>n I will <strong>on</strong>ly refer to <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> four main points at <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>beginning <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Kozur et al.1. The fauna from Rupe del Passo di Burgio is unequivocallyWordian.We recognize that <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> fauna has previously been unequivocallycorrelated with <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Wordian. The upper limit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Roadianhas however been increased such that <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> best correlati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>Waagenoceras fauna is now Upper Roadian. It is very importantthat all <strong>Permian</strong> colleagues be aware that <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> definiti<strong>on</strong>s for <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>Middle <strong>Permian</strong> stages have been ratified and that <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>y are somewhatdifferent from historical positi<strong>on</strong>s; this affects <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Kungurianalso. The Waagenoceras fauna <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Willis Ranch Member <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>Word Formati<strong>on</strong>, which is <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten compared to <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> amm<strong>on</strong>oid fauna<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Sicily, is actually now Upper Roadian in age. It is indeed a problemthat amm<strong>on</strong>oid species between West Texas and Rupe delPasso di Burgio and Oman are all different. Genera always havemuch l<strong>on</strong>ger ranges compared to species. Can correlati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> differentamm<strong>on</strong>oid species with each o<str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>r be unequivocal? Our currentcorrelati<strong>on</strong> (c<strong>on</strong>troversial as it is!) is that <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> beds are uppermostKungurian to earliest Roadian (see table 1 in Mei andHenders<strong>on</strong>, 2001).2. The misidentificati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> M. siciliensis to beds in WestTexas severely jeopardizes age and provincial interpretati<strong>on</strong>s.We acknowledge that Wardlaw in this issue suggests that M.siciliensis is not present in West Texas and that this creates aproblem for correlati<strong>on</strong>. However, it is clear to most specialists (asacknowledged by Wardlaw in this issue) that most <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>se smoothneog<strong>on</strong>dolellids require reappraisal and better descripti<strong>on</strong>s based<strong>on</strong> more recently emphasized characters (<str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> carina) and apparatuscompositi<strong>on</strong>. Wardlaw’s analysis in this issue represents astart in <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> right directi<strong>on</strong>.3. The fauna from Oman (reviewed in a separate paper)clearly shows that <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> M. siciliensis fauna is Wordian.We agree that <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> fauna from Oman is virtually identical (c<strong>on</strong>od<strong>on</strong>tsand amm<strong>on</strong>oids) with that at Rupe del Passo di Burgio; we<strong>on</strong>ly disagree with respect to <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> age assignment.Permophiles Issue #38 2001224. The secti<strong>on</strong> at Luodian c<strong>on</strong>tains reworked material that greatlylimits its utility.We do not agree with respect to <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> reworking suggesti<strong>on</strong>. Theneog<strong>on</strong>dolellids are reas<strong>on</strong>ably well preserved, include differentsizes, and include o<str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>r parts <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> apparatus. Reworked materialwould be more size-sorted. Fur<str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>rmore, <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> successi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>od<strong>on</strong>tsis in proper sequence as are <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> fusulinaceans; no <strong>on</strong>e hassuggested that <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>y are reworked. Reworked material should dem<strong>on</strong>stratea reverse z<strong>on</strong>ati<strong>on</strong>. We believe that <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> reworking interpretati<strong>on</strong>is <strong>on</strong>ly being utilized to questi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> research and is notbased <strong>on</strong> a careful analysis <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> preservati<strong>on</strong> and successi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> fossils. We are uncertain that dissoluti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> elements canbe used to recognize subaerial exposure; this texture is comm<strong>on</strong> inmuch <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Loudian secti<strong>on</strong> and no <strong>on</strong>e would regard all <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>se<strong>Permian</strong> faunas as reworked.ReferencesMei, Shil<strong>on</strong>g and Henders<strong>on</strong>, Charles, 2001. Evoluti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><strong>Permian</strong> c<strong>on</strong>od<strong>on</strong>t provincialism and its significance inglobal correlati<strong>on</strong> and paleoclimate implicati<strong>on</strong>.Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology, v.170, p. 237-260.Smooth G<strong>on</strong>dolellids from <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Kungurian andGuadalupian <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Western U.S.Bruce R. WardlawU.S. Geological Survey, Rest<strong>on</strong>, Virginia, USAKungurian and Guadalupian smooth g<strong>on</strong>dolellids from <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>western U.S. have been poorly documented and are typicallymisidentified or lumped into a broad species designati<strong>on</strong> comm<strong>on</strong>lyas “idahoensis”. Smooth refers to <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> lateral margin <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>Pa element not having comm<strong>on</strong> crenulati<strong>on</strong>s or serrati<strong>on</strong>s. Currently,all smooth forms from <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Kungurian and Guadalupian arereferred to <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> genus Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella. The apparatus <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>seMesog<strong>on</strong>dolella appear to be similar to that illustrated by Orchardand Rieber (1998), except <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Sc1 element does not have an anteriorbifurcati<strong>on</strong>. The attempt here is to illustrate <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Pa elements <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> forms that occur in objective stratigraphic successi<strong>on</strong> from <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>base <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Kungurian through Wordian in <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> western U.S. It isnot so important what species I call <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>m, but that <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>re is a successi<strong>on</strong><str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> forms in stratigraphic order that can be identified byplatform outline, posterior cusp positi<strong>on</strong> and outline, and denticulati<strong>on</strong>pattern including size, spacing and fusi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> posterior denticlesand fusi<strong>on</strong> and height <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> anterior blade denticles.Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella intermedia (fig. 1.1) occurs near <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> base <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Skinner Ranch Formati<strong>on</strong> and is characterized by mostly discretedenticles <strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> carina with <strong>on</strong>ly <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> anterior few <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> bladebeing fused. It has a c<strong>on</strong>sistent gap between <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> cusp and <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> firstposterior denticle. The terminal cusp is circular in outline.Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella gujioensis (fig. 1.2) also occurs near <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> base<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Skinner Ranch Formati<strong>on</strong>. Both M. intermedia and M.gujioensis occur close to and overlap <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> first and lower occurrences<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Neostreptognathodus exsculptus and, <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>refore are earlyKungurian in age. M. gujioensis is characterized by a mostly fused
carina and blade, a rounded posterior platform, and a cusp <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> circularoutline.Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella glenisteri (fig. 1.3) occurs in <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> middle part<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Skinner Ranch Formati<strong>on</strong> and is characterized by discretedenticles <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> realatively equal size, no noticeable gap between cuspand first posterior denticle, a terminal cusp <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> circular outline and alow fused blade.Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella asiatica (fig. 1.4) also occurs in <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> middlepart <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Skinner Ranch Formati<strong>on</strong>, has a short range, and is veryvariable in platform outline, almost always wide, but <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> widestpoint is very variable. It is also characterized by a few widelyspaced, discrete posterior denticles, a fused blade, and a terminalcusp <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> circular outline. M. asiatica appears to be derived from M.gujioensis by a widening <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> platform and a reducti<strong>on</strong> in <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>fusi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> posterior most denticles.Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella zsuzsannae (figs 1.5-7) occurs in <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> upperpart <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Skinner Ranch Formati<strong>on</strong> and <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> lower part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>overlying Ca<str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>dral Mountain Formati<strong>on</strong>. It is characterized by ahigh carina and blade. The cusp is generally terminal, but largespecimens may have a small brim. The cusp is relatively small inthat <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> middle denticles <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> carina are nearly <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> equal size. Thefirst few posterior denticles in fr<strong>on</strong>t <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> cusp are slightly reducedand more closely spaced than most <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> carinal denticles,large specimens display a partially to mostly fused carina and afused blade, <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> posterior platform is generally rounded. I haveillustrated <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>on</strong>e specimen from a large sample populati<strong>on</strong> thatexhibits a square posterior platform and overall triangular shape.Permophiles Issue #38 200123Figure 1. All specimens Pa elements x32.1. Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella intermedia, from near base, Skinner RanchFormati<strong>on</strong>, Le<strong>on</strong>ard Mountain, Glass Mountains, Texas.2. Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella gujioensis, from near base, Skinner RanchFormati<strong>on</strong>, Le<strong>on</strong>ard Mountain, Glass Mountains, Texas.3. Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella glenisteri, from middle, Skinner Ranch Formati<strong>on</strong>,Le<strong>on</strong>ard Mountain, Glass Mountains, Texas.4. Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella asiatica, from middle, Skinner Ranch Formati<strong>on</strong>,Le<strong>on</strong>ard Mountain, Glass Mountains, Texas.5. Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella zsuzsannae, from near base Ca<str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>dral MountainFormati<strong>on</strong>, Split Tank, Glass Mountains, Texas6. Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella zsuzsannae, from same sample as 5.7. Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella zsuzsanna, rare “triangular” morphotype fromsame sample as 5.8. Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella idahoensis, rare “triangular” morphotypefrom middle, Ca<str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>dral Mountain Formati<strong>on</strong>, Split Tank, GlassMountains, Texas.9. Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella idahoensis from same sample as 8.10.Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella idahoensis from base, Road Cany<strong>on</strong> Formati<strong>on</strong>,stratotype, Glass Mountains, Texas.11. Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella idahoensis, holotype, just below cap rock,M<strong>on</strong>tpelier Cany<strong>on</strong>, Idaho.12.Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella gracilis, false cap, Meade Peak PhosphaticShale, M<strong>on</strong>tpelier Cany<strong>on</strong>, Idaho.13.Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella gracilis, from same sample as 12.14.Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella gracilis, transiti<strong>on</strong>al from gracilis tophosphoriensis, middle silt, Meade Peak Phosphatic Shale, C<strong>on</strong>daMine, Idaho.15.Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella phosphoriensis, large, ger<strong>on</strong>tic specimen,from rich seam, Meade Peak Phosphatic Shale, C<strong>on</strong>da Mine, Idaho.16.Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella phosphoriensis, from same sample as 15.17.Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella phosphoriensis, holotype, upper part, MeadePeak Phosphatic Shale, Paris Cany<strong>on</strong>, Idaho.18.Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella prol<strong>on</strong>gata, from near base, Retort PhosphaticShale, Tet<strong>on</strong> Pass, Wyoming.19.Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella retortensis (n. sp.) from lower part, RetortPhosphatic Shale, Dalys Spur, M<strong>on</strong>tana.Again, this is <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>on</strong>e specimen that exhibits this shape from severalhundred!Mesog<strong>on</strong>dolella idahoensis (figs 1.8-11) occurs in <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> middle<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Ca<str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>dral Mountain Formati<strong>on</strong> and extends into <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> base <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Road Cany<strong>on</strong> Formati<strong>on</strong>. It is comm<strong>on</strong> in <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> lower part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>Meade Peak Phosphatic Shale and rare in <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> underlyingNeostreptognathodus-dominated Grandeur Formati<strong>on</strong> in Idaho.Smooth g<strong>on</strong>dolellids end in West Texas with M. idahoensis, so wemove to <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Phosphoria basin and <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Meade Peak PhosphaticShale to c<strong>on</strong>tinue our examinati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> successi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>se forms.M. idahoensis is characterized by low carina with 3-4 diminutivedenticles in fr<strong>on</strong>t <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> large cusp <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> circular outline that is terminalin all but <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> largest specimens, which have a small brim, a lowblade that is fused anteriorly, and a blunt to slightly rounded posteriorplatform. Very blunt or squared posterior platforms are comm<strong>on</strong>.Figures 1.8 and 1.9 are from near <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> base <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> M.idahoensis. Here, <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> apparatus <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> M. idahoensis is clearly distinguishablefrom that <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> M. zsuzsannae from beds immediately below.Also, my abundant specimens come from <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Split Tanksecti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> Ca<str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g>dral Mountain, where <str<strong>on</strong>g>the</str<strong>on</strong>g> formati<strong>on</strong> is domi-