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Mineral Homeostasis in CKD - Mineral and Bone Disorder - Medscape

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medscape.org/roundtable/ckdmbdDr. Block: Some recent meta-analyses suggest that giv<strong>in</strong>g calcium supplementation may not be good for cardiovascular risk <strong>in</strong>that population. In your data, Katie, even with 1000 mg of calcium, your patients were essentially neutral or slightly positive.Your f<strong>in</strong>d<strong>in</strong>g that serum calcium does not change makes the po<strong>in</strong>t that we cannot rely on that. It may also be true that serumphosphorus does not reflect phosphate load or balance quite so well.Dr. Speigel: This is fundamentally important. We th<strong>in</strong>k of this when we th<strong>in</strong>k of potassium balance <strong>and</strong> sodium balance <strong>in</strong> <strong>CKD</strong>.We know patients with <strong>CKD</strong> have a limited ability to h<strong>and</strong>le loads of potassium <strong>and</strong> of sodium, <strong>and</strong> we adjust the dietary <strong>in</strong>taketo meet what the kidney can put out. What we are clearly f<strong>in</strong>d<strong>in</strong>g now is that the same is true with calcium <strong>and</strong> probably withphosphorus. We need to th<strong>in</strong>k more about adjust<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>take to match what the kidney is able to put out.Dr. Block: That is absolutely true.Dr. Hill: We also have correspond<strong>in</strong>g data for the phosphate balance. This is really <strong>in</strong>terest<strong>in</strong>g too, because you are giv<strong>in</strong>g a levelof calcium that is quite high -- 1500 mg per day -- which, as you mentioned, is what is used cl<strong>in</strong>ically. The effect on phosphatebalance is very m<strong>in</strong>imal, so we also gave a controlled diet of 1500 mg of phosphate, <strong>and</strong> there was no difference between eitherplacebo or calcium. Fecal phosphate was unaffected. Ur<strong>in</strong>e phosphate was decreased with the calcium supplement, which waswhat you would hope to see, but only by about 170 mg per day, which was a pretty modest effect. Phosphate balance was notdifferent. It was essentially neutral <strong>in</strong> both of the conditions of the treatment. So, there was a huge effect on calcium balance but apretty modest effect on phosphate throughput <strong>and</strong> b<strong>in</strong>d<strong>in</strong>g phosphate.Dr. Block: This work makes us question our st<strong>and</strong>ard th<strong>in</strong>k<strong>in</strong>g <strong>and</strong> our st<strong>and</strong>ard approach to what we are do<strong>in</strong>g. People havethe perception that this is a benign event. We have been us<strong>in</strong>g phosphate b<strong>in</strong>ders forever, <strong>and</strong> we will just give our patientsphosphate b<strong>in</strong>ders earlier. But what your data po<strong>in</strong>t out is that there are some concerns that we need to be aware of <strong>in</strong> thatregard.You cannot talk about the issue of calcium balance, <strong>CKD</strong>-MBD, <strong>and</strong> calcium vs noncalcium without gett<strong>in</strong>g to the basic issue ofvitam<strong>in</strong> D <strong>and</strong> PTH <strong>and</strong> the management of hyperparathyroidism. As both of you described earlier, FGF seems to be one of theproximate reasons why 1,25-dihydroxyvitam<strong>in</strong> D3 goes down as you lose kidney function. When you reach ESRD, of course, wetreat hyperparathyroidism with pretty large doses of vitam<strong>in</strong> D <strong>and</strong>/or use of a calcimimetic. Dr. Peacock, you are <strong>in</strong>volved <strong>in</strong> somestudies presented here that are <strong>in</strong>terest<strong>in</strong>g with regard to compar<strong>in</strong>g how those 2 drugs work.Pg.15

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