Bearing that in mind:I'd look at the Dagger Mamba 7.6 even though you are 10lbs under the minimum weight simply based on other'sexperiences with it, but I suspect it's too big for you andwill be hole bait with you in it on bigger water. On theother hand, it is more creeky than some other choicesand might perform reasonably well on local steeps. Onlyone way to really find out.The river running edition of the LL Remix is a pretty goodcandidate for an all around boat. You fall right at thebottom edge of the weight range for the 59, so it's wortha try. Honestly though, I'd consider the 47 as least longenough to get in one and see how you like it. It's actuallya kids/small adults boat and you are at the top ofthe weight range for it. Disadvantage there is potentialsquirrellyness but it would be a boat that you could pusharound more effectively and I see that as a big deficiencyin your paddling up until now. Your boats tend to pushyou around because they're too big for you. The potentialfor you to be able to drive this boat effectively may outweighother considerations. It may not be the right boatfor you, but there's only one way to find out. Plus, youcan get a new one for around $600, possibly less sincethey discontinued it at the beginning of this month.One nobody's mentioned yet is the Dagger Axiom. Thisis a more general purpose river runner. It could do somemoderate creeking, but probably wouldn't be that goodfor steeper runs, but it has some big selling points. Itcomes in a kids/small adults version, the 6.9, that youare actually 10 lbs UNDER the top end of the weightrange for; AND a small adults version, the 8.0 that youare close to the MIDDLE of the weight range for (90 - 150lbs). MSRP is $629 for the 6.9, but $1029 for the 8.0. Aswith the Remix 47, I really think you should try these twobecause of the potential for you to be able to effectivelydrive your boat in a manner that you haven't been able tobefore.The S Burn is worth considering. It definitely has somecreeky characteristics built into a decent all-purpose design,but you are still near the bottom of the weight rangefor the S. Worth looking at, but I feel you are going to getbetter use out of a smaller design.Jackson actually makes several boats that should be onyour radar. They have by far the widest range of sizesand kids/young adults boats including transitional boats.The Jackson Little Hero may very well be the boat foryou. You're right in the middle of the weight range andit's a creeky design with what appears to be good generalriver running characteristics. Definitely give this one atry. The Sidekick may be worth a look even though you'renear or over the top of the weight range. Same sort ofdeal, creeky general river runner. The Fun 1.5 is definitelyworth a look just for perspective. Max weight of 120 lbsand more playboat than river runner, it won't creek welland it may be a little squirrellier than what you're lookingfor, but I think that a boat like that might make you lookat boating in a very different light. The Karma Small putsyou in the middle of the weight range, but it's more of apure creeker so it has a lot more volume than other boatsthat put you in the middle of their weight range. Definitelyworth checking out. A pure creeker is still usually a goodall-around boat for everything except playboating. TheZen 55 puts you near the top of the weight range for ageneral purpose river runner that could still probablyhandle moderate creeking quite well. Also, it doesn'treally have any edges to speak of so even if you're a bitnear the top of the weight curve, it's unlikely to be squirrellyor difficult to handle in big water.Last, but not least, keep your eyes out for a used DaggerPiedra. They don't make them anymore, but it wasa general river running boat designed for small adults. Inever paddled it, but I knew some small adults who didand loved them. Just a thought.Hanley LollerAli,The Diesel 65 you currently paddle is supposed to be agood all around boat. Maybe you should be looking for aplayboat for elkhorn runs.Joe W.Ok Zina, I may be a software engineer, but here's my twocents on the matter.My experience tells me that when you're in a boat that'stoo big for you, it gets surfed around a lot more. By that Idon't mean you end up in holes more, although you may,but that every wave with a little backwash on it tossesyou around and your boat drives you. You want your boatto be proportionate to your body so that you can move/lean/turn it with your body effectively. A boat that's toobig inhibits the boater's ability to effectively control theirboat.Additionally, a boat that's too big is harder to roll because14
more of it (and you) sits further out of the water.In the end it's a very personal choice heavily colored bypaddling style, but in general I think that seeking out aboat that is the right size for you will increase your performancedramatically.USNWC.orgVenus and I will go anytime if you want to join us on a tripout there. I recommend taking off a Friday and headingon down Thursday night so Friday and Saturday are openfor paddling.Case in point, we've seen a sharp rise in the last coupleof years in new boaters, (mostly guys, often big guys)showing up at roll session with the Remix XP9 or XP10.The boat is too big for them and they have trouble makingit go where they want it to. Now, this is exacerbated bysome of the touring characteristics of the boat, but evenwithout that the length and volume work against them.All that being said, I know you're at the lower edge orunder the weight range for your RPM and that you're verycomfortable in that boat. As I said, it's a very personalchoice and one person's experience differs greatly fromanother. Still, I'll stand by my comments for general application.Hanley LollerOne last thing to add. The performance weight rangesfor genuine creekboats (IMHO) are generally rated a littlelight because they're designed for steep creek performancewhere extra volume is desired to help avoid pins.Consider that when looking at the top range on some ofthese boats.Hanley LollerThere you have it Ali. Join BWA Team Nomad...myself andMike W. are the newest members...come to the dark side...You can play boat in them. Usually not intentionally, butwhatever.BrandonPhilipP.S. According to the specs on the Dagger site the Axiom6.9 should be just right for you. That is if you want a lowvolume stern. These are the closest you can get to theRPM design which I hear some like (Hanley, Chief ...)And... the 6.9 size is only $629!I plan on trying out one of these in my size next chance Iget.NOC on the Nanty will allow you to demo for one hourfor free and they have all the manufacturers boats. Run afew laps on the falls, hit some eddies and peel outs andyou should have a good idea how the boat feels. Half daydemos are $25.[store.noc.com]BrandonNOC on the Nanty is where I have done all my demos. Ifeel like falls laps are a great way to get a feel for a boat!One minor downside IMO is that if you demo multipleboats in a day, by the time you get to the last boat or twoyou can easily be worn out from carrying back up to theput-in for all those laps. I found the fatigue can put biasin how I feel about how a boat handles during the demo.My advice would be give yourself a couple of days if youdemo at the Nanty. That WW center deal sounds prettysweet also, especially if you can demo more and carryless!August 15, <strong>2013</strong>Ali,The whitewater center in Charlotte has a wide range ofdemo boats. Take your gear, pay them $25 for the daypass and just $15 to demo and you can try every boatthey have. They have nearly the full line of Dagger, LiquidLogic, and Wave Sport. Also, they have rafting, zip lines,mountain biking, flatwater boating, and wide variety ofIPAs at the restaraunt overlooking the comp channel ifyour boyfriend wants to go with you.DerekNOC is the deal then for demos - they used to be moreexpensive than anyone $40+ as I recall for full day. Britand I have been working with Rock Creek Ocoee for ourdemos. $20-25 there for full day - not the selection asNOC but a better river for the testing.There is not one boat that will do everything well IMO. Ifyou must have only one boat and you like to surf I woulddefinitely demo the Little Hero and my old Mamba 7.5.The Mamba is not for sale, but you are welcome to try it15