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Meeting Note - National Infrastructure Planning

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<strong>Meeting</strong> <strong>Note</strong><br />

File reference<br />

Status<br />

Author<br />

TR01002 – A556 Knutsford to Bowdon<br />

Final<br />

Kay Sully<br />

<strong>Meeting</strong> with<br />

<strong>Meeting</strong> date 2 February 2010<br />

Attendees (IPC)<br />

Highways Agency (HA) and Jacobs who are acting on<br />

behalf of the HA<br />

Kay Sully, Lynne Franklin, David Price and Simon<br />

Butler<br />

Attendees (non IPC) For part one of the meeting, there were the following<br />

attendees:<br />

HA<br />

Anna Pickering<br />

Mohammed Swapan<br />

Sheena Crombie<br />

Laura Pennington (Halcrow – working for HA)<br />

Jacobs<br />

Dan Johnston<br />

Kate Oram<br />

Simon Hayton<br />

Simon Bird<br />

Anna McFarlane<br />

Sharon Woodruff<br />

Simon Holden<br />

Cheshire East Council<br />

Beverley Wilders<br />

Phil Mason<br />

Conal Kearney<br />

Jan Gomulski<br />

Natural England<br />

Kieran Preston<br />

Kat Walsh<br />

Sarah Warrener<br />

English Heritage<br />

Judith Nelson<br />

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Environment Agency<br />

Catherine Hunt<br />

David Astbury<br />

David Turnbull<br />

Sue Slamon<br />

For part two of the meeting, the attendees were the HA<br />

and Jacobs as listed above with the addition of Ashley<br />

Stratford (Jacobs)<br />

Location<br />

<strong>Meeting</strong> purpose<br />

HA’s offices – City Tower, Manchester<br />

HA to provide a presentation on the Environmental<br />

Impact Assessment (EIA) and background of the A556<br />

major trunk road between North Cheshire and South<br />

Manchester. The section of the A556 under<br />

consideration is between the M6 junction 19 near<br />

Tabley/Knutsford and the M56 junction 7 near<br />

Bowdon.<br />

IPC to answer queries in relation to the pre-application<br />

process.<br />

Summary of<br />

outcomes<br />

Part one of the meeting:<br />

IPC advised on its openness policy as well as the IPC not<br />

being able to discuss the merits of a project with any party.<br />

Referred to s.51 of the <strong>Planning</strong> Act 2008 (Act) which sets<br />

out the requirement for the IPC to publish advice. Also to<br />

note that any advice given under s.51 does not constitute<br />

legal advice.<br />

HA provided background to the scheme which will involve<br />

landtake and side road closures, and also discussed site<br />

constraints including protected landscapes, sensitive water<br />

receptors, listed buildings, air quality, water<br />

habitats/ecology, noise and community facilities. There<br />

were some requests for clarification and comments from<br />

statutory consultees – English Heritage queried<br />

interpretation of “significance” when assessing impact on<br />

heritage assets and HA confirmed that the criteria in the<br />

Design Manual for Roads and Bridges will be adopted; the<br />

Environment Agency flagged the need to consider the<br />

water habitat and environmental enhancements at junction<br />

7; Cheshire East Council drew attention to the options<br />

under consideration for de-trunking and handover.<br />

IPC made reference to the EIA regulations; and also<br />

Schedule 1 of the Applications: Prescribed Forms and<br />

Procedure Regulations 2009 (APFP Regs) explaining to<br />

the statutory consultees (stat cons) present that they will<br />

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e consulted on the information that should be included in<br />

the environmental statement as part of the IPCs formal<br />

scoping process. IPC emphasised front loading process;<br />

as much information as possible should be made available<br />

from the outset which will assist in engagement between<br />

parties.<br />

Clarified the 42 days for a scoping opinion is the deadline<br />

for the IPC and not stat cons. Stat cons have 28 days to<br />

respond to the IPC. HA raised concern that there is a<br />

duplication of the consultation process as HA will be<br />

consulting the stat cons on EIA (informally) and then they<br />

will also be consulted formally by the IPC as part of the<br />

scoping opinion process. IPC asked that when the HA are<br />

submitting a request for a scoping opinion, could they<br />

submit 4 copies of the scoping report, a CD copy and a link<br />

to the scoping opinion on their website. English Heritage<br />

asked how the scoping report will be sent; IPC confirmed<br />

that a link is provided in the letter so these can be viewed<br />

electronically. English Heritage raised concern with this as<br />

they are not always able to download large documents; HA<br />

confirmed they would send a hard copy to English<br />

Heritage.<br />

Part two of the meeting:<br />

IPC clarified that where a <strong>National</strong> Policy Statement (NPS)<br />

is still in draft and if the application is accepted for<br />

examination the IPC will make a recommendation to the<br />

Secretary of State who will become the decision maker.<br />

Should the NPS be designated, the IPC will then make the<br />

decision. HA asked for an update on the publication of the<br />

<strong>National</strong> Networks NPS; IPC clarified that it is an<br />

independent body and does not have responsibility for<br />

policy making and referred HA to contact the Department<br />

for Transport for further information. IPC also clarified that<br />

if an application was received whilst a NPS was still in draft<br />

but then designated during the examination process, the<br />

IPC would be the decision maker.<br />

IPC clarified it has 42 days to give a scoping opinion and<br />

are not under any obligation to take into account<br />

responses that are received outside of the 28 day<br />

deadline. The IPC will however forward any late responses<br />

received to the HA.<br />

HA asked if they should take into account any late<br />

responses, IPC confirmed that this will be at their<br />

discretion. HA identified a risk that if late responses in<br />

relation to the scoping exercise are submitted the issues<br />

raised may not be taken into account and they could be<br />

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aised again during the examination stage. IPC clarified<br />

that there will be further consultation opportunities at a<br />

later stage of the process (for example when the<br />

application is accepted) where stat cons (and others) can<br />

make representations and raise their concerns and this<br />

would be done before a decision is made.<br />

HA asked for a best practice guide to what should be in<br />

their statement of community consultation (SOCC). The<br />

IPC is unable to prescribe what should be in the SOCC.<br />

The local authorities (LAs) should be consulted (under s47<br />

of the Act) about what should be in the SOCC and IPC<br />

encouraged HA to engage with the local authorities (LAs)<br />

as they will be best placed to advise on the local<br />

community consultation. The LAs statement of community<br />

involvement would provide a useful point of reference in<br />

drawing up a SOCC. Also referred to the CLG guidance<br />

on pre-application consultation as well as IPC guidance<br />

note 1 on the pre-application stages.<br />

HA asked if they were able to submit their application<br />

under the transitional arrangements; as the consultation<br />

began prior to 1 October 2007, the IPC confirmed that this<br />

would not be possible if the consultation did not comply<br />

with the conditions in Regulation 12 of the APFP Regs.<br />

Regulation 12 applies if the applicant commenced<br />

consultation on or after 1 October 2007 and includes the<br />

requirement that the applicant should have first consulted<br />

the local authority about how to conduct the consultation.<br />

IPC explained that LAs will be invited to produce a local<br />

impact report and encouraged HA to consider working<br />

towards statements of common ground with relevant<br />

parties. This could be done before the IPC’s procedural<br />

decision (about how to conduct the examination) at the<br />

preliminary meeting.<br />

IPC and HA discussed the possibility of publishing the<br />

SOCC at the same time as carrying out s48 notification.<br />

No definitive view was reached.<br />

It was clarified that the IPC can provide technical advice on<br />

the draft DCO and HA was encouraged to submit a draft at<br />

an early stage.<br />

IPC explained intention of an outreach project where it<br />

would hold an event inviting the appropriate LAs,<br />

stakeholders and representatives of local groups. The<br />

purpose of this would be to give a presentation setting out<br />

what is expected throughout the process. Emphasised that<br />

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it would not be a public meeting or a consultation event; it<br />

would be an informative session to assist parties in<br />

improving their knowledge of the process. In principal, HA<br />

agree this would be beneficial to the parties; further<br />

thought will be given to this once back in the office.<br />

Record of any<br />

advice given<br />

• Regarding the SOCC, IPC emphasised the<br />

importance of engaging early with the LAs as they<br />

will be best placed to advise on local community<br />

consultation needs.<br />

• If the requirements of Regulation 12 (APFP Regs)<br />

cannot be met it will not be possible to make use of<br />

the transitional provisions.<br />

• Clarified IPC deadline of 42 days to give a scoping<br />

opinion and 28 days for statutory consultees to<br />

provide comments in relation to the information to<br />

be provided in the environmental statement.<br />

Specific<br />

decisions/follow up<br />

required?<br />

Circulation List<br />

• Outreach work to be considered.<br />

• Arrangements to be put in place for IPC to carry out<br />

a site visit in conjunction with both the promoter and<br />

LA.<br />

• HA to submit their list of stat cons to IPC, this action<br />

has been carried out.<br />

IPC - Tracey Page, Kathryn Powell, Lynne Franklin, Simon<br />

Butler, Dave Cliff<br />

Anna Pickering<br />

Beverley Wilders<br />

Kieran Preston<br />

Catherine Hunt<br />

Judith Nelson<br />

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