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JS: In every revolution, however tragic, there seems<br />

to be the necessity for the creation of a situation in<br />

which there is collectively nothing left to lose: a total<br />

break with the structure that is oppressing you.<br />

DD: What is unique about the Rojava Revolution is that it<br />

already had a solid ideological base. It was built on the<br />

ideas of democratic confederalism, of self-sustainability,<br />

self-governance, autonomy, true independence: not<br />

through the state, but in the sense of living without approval.<br />

This is in fact the legacy of the Kurdish movement<br />

philosophically affiliated with the PKK. It is something<br />

that the actors of this revolution will tell you themselves,<br />

but it is hard to accept for those who appropriate Rojava’s<br />

resistance against ISIS for their own ends. Before Rojava,<br />

there were the autonomous councils created by the<br />

PKK in Turkey, for example, for which many people were<br />

imprisoned. The people of Rojava were not scared, because<br />

they knew the costs of their revolution, the costs of<br />

establishing something in spite of the oppressive dominant<br />

system and its attacks. That is why the resistance<br />

in Kobanê was so difficult for many people to grasp. That<br />

people would continue to resist right down to the last<br />

bullet, all for a different life — this philosophy and collective<br />

mobilization cannot be treated in isolation from the<br />

military victories against ISIS.<br />

JS: How is democratic confederalism practiced in<br />

Rojava today?<br />

DD: The Rojava administration is founded on The Social<br />

Contract, also referred to as the Charter. It was collectively<br />

written by all peoples inhabiting the region: Kurds,<br />

Arabs, Assyrians, Chaldeans, Arameans, Turkmen, Armenians,<br />

and Chechens. It contains the pillars of the model<br />

of democratic confederalism, a secular model of politics<br />

that guarantees gender equality, upholds the principles<br />

of social communalist, collectivist practice, meaning that<br />

centralized powers are reduced to a minimum, and that<br />

local communities, the grassroots components, uphold<br />

maximum political agency. The three cantons of Rojava<br />

— Afrîn, Cizîre, and Kobanê — are affiliated, but they<br />

organize their affairs autonomously. One of the principles<br />

is that each region will understand its realities best.<br />

Kobanê, for example, is mostly inhabited by Kurds, while<br />

Cizîre has a very multiethnic population.<br />

Each canton has 22 ministries; each ministry has one<br />

minister and two deputies. If the minister is Kurdish, then<br />

the two deputy chairs must be filled by one Arab and one<br />

Assyrian — and at least one of them has to be a woman.<br />

Each canton is chaired by one woman and one man.<br />

Parallel to the cantons is a social movement called TEV-<br />

DEM, the Movement for a Democratic Society. Their task<br />

is to link the administration and the people, to guarantee<br />

that the grassroots assume a leading role in all matters.<br />

In spite of the canton administrations, which were regarded<br />

as necessary measures to address several geopolitical<br />

threats during this transitional moment, Rojava<br />

is essentially run by councils — neighborhood councils,<br />

village councils, and city councils — where people make<br />

decisions together and form committees to implement<br />

these decisions. It is important to know that the administrative<br />

body of Rojava is not separate from civil society:<br />

that is what the Rojava revolution tries to do, to reshape<br />

governance into a collective issue.<br />

The women’s movement is also autonomously organized<br />

in the form of the coordinating body Yekîtiya Star, of<br />

which the YPJ is a part. Yekîtiya Star decides on women’s<br />

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