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[Pavilion, which is now Ak-Chin Pavilion]. I could still be competing<br />
with them big time with my own place.<br />
What’s next for you? What haven’t you been able to do that<br />
you would still like to accomplish?<br />
I am having a good time. I work with great people who are good<br />
at this business. I am involved on a day-to-day basis, but as I get<br />
older I like being mobile, traveling [Zelisko was in Italy when we did<br />
this interview, for example] and staying involved in the minutiae of<br />
this work we do. I like seeing my friends who I have made over the<br />
years come back again and again, and like getting hooked up with<br />
new groups.<br />
All of it is still very exciting for me. I have done pretty much everything<br />
one can do as a promoter except open more markets and buy for more<br />
people, which I am open to doing. But I don’t want to kill myself doing<br />
it. I am enjoying the pace I am at. We are doing 125 to 150 shows<br />
a year. I still dig the venues and people there that I work with. The<br />
[Arizona] State Fair is always fun. [I like] nice halls with great sound<br />
and lights.<br />
We have great shows in Phoenix and I like to feel that I am responsible<br />
for a lot of the good ones that come in. Plus, I have helped shape the<br />
market with all the other shows that come in as a result of the other<br />
main promoters in town having worked for me at one point or another<br />
[and the people] who work with them, too. I just don’t make money off<br />
of all of those shows anymore. But I am doing okay.<br />
JAVA 15<br />
MAGAZINE
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