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Is it harder – or even ill-advised – to be<br />
patient when an ever increasing amount<br />
of automated trading is pushing share<br />
prices around?<br />
MM: The compression of time horizons<br />
and the increased trading done by algorithm<br />
creates more liquidity for us to take<br />
long-term positions. That lowers the cost,<br />
at the margin, of our entering or exiting a<br />
long-term position. More generally, the<br />
more compressed the time horizon of the<br />
market is, the less the market is willing to<br />
pay for a business’ “muddle-through”<br />
value, which we base on looking at peak<br />
and trough margins and normal business<br />
cycles. We look at earnings power three,<br />
four and five years out – the less we have<br />
to pay for that, the more our patience<br />
pays off.<br />
Where the prevalence of short-term<br />
trading can be hurtful is when there’s a<br />
feedback loop between intrinsic value and<br />
the perception of value, which happens<br />
particularly in highly leveraged situations.<br />
When a company is in trouble and<br />
there’s a lot of negative momentum trading<br />
as a result, that can feed on itself as<br />
the company has to recapitalize at progressively<br />
lower prices, diluting value.<br />
That’s a key reason we avoid highly leveraged<br />
situations as a rule.<br />
Marty Whitman, in an interview for <strong>this</strong><br />
issue, says those types of negative feedback<br />
loops have led him to completely<br />
avoid companies reliant on continuous<br />
access to capital markets.<br />
MM: People tend to lose sight of the fact<br />
that what you own in an equity is only a<br />
residual claim on a business. At the heart<br />
of value investing is the notion of mean<br />
reversion, that by paying a low multiple<br />
on a conservative margin you can win<br />
with the passage of time as the valuation<br />
of the business and the margins normalize.<br />
What can break that and cause mean<br />
aversion, though, are things like fading<br />
business models, expeditionary management<br />
deploying capital in a dilutive way<br />
and – what Marty Whitman is talking<br />
about – adverse capital-structure contingencies.<br />
We make every effort to invest<br />
only in the universe of companies where<br />
those risks of breakage are as limited as<br />
possible.<br />
Describe what you mean by a business’<br />
muddle-through value?<br />
AD: Intrinsic value to us means the price<br />
that a knowledgeable buyer would pay<br />
for a business in its entirety in cash today.<br />
Any knowledgeable buyer will recognize<br />
and take into consideration whether current<br />
earnings are too high or too low,<br />
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If we pay a low multiple and<br />
perhaps get a discount to<br />
asset replacement value, we<br />
kind of get the future for free.<br />
based on the cyclicality of the business<br />
and where it is in the cycle. Similarly, we<br />
don’t want to capitalize earnings streams<br />
that are too high or too low, but focus in<br />
valuation on what the cash flow of the<br />
business is somewhere between the<br />
extremes. Because the future is uncertain,<br />
we don’t exaggerate the precision of the<br />
values we come up with. That said, over<br />
time our intrinsic value estimates – based<br />
on actual transactions – have proven to<br />
be quite accurate. We tend if anything to<br />
be too pessimistic, which is fine.<br />
MM: If we can pay a low multiple at an<br />
enterprise level on muddle-through cash<br />
flows, and perhaps also get a discount to<br />
the asset replacement value of the business,<br />
we in a way get the future for free.<br />
We start out trying not to lose money, but<br />
if we’re disciplined in the way we go<br />
about that, we get a shot at a decent<br />
amount of upside over time.<br />
How has the composition of your portfolio<br />
changed in the past year, reflecting<br />
where you’re seeing opportunity and risk?<br />
MM: The biggest change is that we’re<br />
more fully invested, with our cash posi-<br />
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tion in the <strong>First</strong> <strong>Eagle</strong> Global Fund down<br />
from about 20% to less than 10% today.<br />
We always like to retain deferred purchasing<br />
power, so the sum of our cash,<br />
short-dated government bonds and our<br />
gold positions is still about 20% of the<br />
portfolio. That’s lower than it has been<br />
historically, which is a reflection of the<br />
fact that we’re finding a higher proportion<br />
of decent businesses at decent valuations<br />
today.<br />
Reflecting some of the balance-sheet<br />
concerns we continue to have in many<br />
parts of the world, we’ve also seen the<br />
portfolio gravitate somewhat more<br />
toward Japan. It’s where the excesses<br />
were not in the last cycle, and most of the<br />
companies we own there have resilient,<br />
global franchises and no debt. The capital<br />
markets could close for a decade and<br />
they’d still be fine.<br />
Has your exposure to gold gone up or<br />
down?<br />
AD: It has gone up, not because we’ve<br />
added to the position, but because the<br />
values of bullion and gold stocks have<br />
held up much better than our typical<br />
equity holding. We've always considered<br />
gold to be a valuable potential hedge<br />
against all the bad things that could hurt<br />
our equity holdings, and that certainly<br />
remains true today. It may be some time<br />
off, but we worry a lot about the potential<br />
for inflation and for currency debasement<br />
– currencies declining in value relative<br />
to real assets – as a result of unprecedented<br />
fiscal and monetary stimulus.<br />
Were the more negative scenarios to play<br />
out, real assets like gold should prove<br />
quite valuable.<br />
Are other commodities interesting to you<br />
as well?<br />
AD: We have some long-held positions in<br />
timber companies, including Rayonier<br />
[RYN], Plum Creek [PCL] and Deltic<br />
[DEL], which have proven to be an effective<br />
hedge against dollar devaluation<br />
over time. We think they will prove to be<br />
an effective hedge against currency<br />
debasement as well.<br />
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