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of <strong>St</strong> <strong>Mary</strong> <strong>Redcliffe</strong>. I think you don’t see yourself grow that much, but when I<br />
look back on my time here I think I’ve grown massively over the last five years.<br />
So I think that’s why I like to throw myself in at the deep end, to help people,<br />
to give them that chance; give them that one little opportunity that I was<br />
given. Exactly when that moment came along I’m not absolutely sure, but I<br />
do know I was given it. For me to keep what I’ve got today, I believe I have<br />
to give it away; so if that’s helping someone in the congregation, or helping<br />
someone who comes in off the street looking for a cup of tea and a chat,<br />
then I’ll be there.<br />
— So how did you actually come to be at <strong>St</strong> <strong>Mary</strong> <strong>Redcliffe</strong>? I helped set up<br />
the ARC café in the Undercroft, nearly eight years ago now, and we were looking<br />
for a place to base it, so the first experience I had of SMR was when I had<br />
been clean for about a year (not even a year actually). Life was new to me, and<br />
SMR had given ARA (Addiction Recovery Agency) the opportunity to use the<br />
Undercroft — a new venture on both sides: new for ARA, and it was new for<br />
the church to work with people with addiction. It was difficult, but we all made<br />
it work. Anyway, I’d been working at the café for about two years as Head Chef<br />
and Assistant Manager when a job came up in church — I’d seen this piece of<br />
paper in the ARC café and they were going to put it on their notice board, and<br />
me being me... well I took it off, went for the job and got it!<br />
— You were doing two jobs; how was that? I was for a year: I did 10 hours in<br />
the cafe and 10 to 15 hours up in the church, and after a year I dropped the<br />
cafe work and did 25 hours in the church. I took over from Joy, and I hope<br />
I’ve done her proud. But in my wildest dreams I never thought that I’d end<br />
up in this church. It just never entered my head. And especially with my old<br />
lifestyle. I think if you’d asked family and friends they’d have never seen me<br />
working at <strong>St</strong> <strong>Mary</strong> <strong>Redcliffe</strong>!<br />
— What are your plans now; are you moving on to do more of the things<br />
you want? Yes, I’m going to be working for myself, starting my own Cleaning<br />
business. Again, starting my own business is something I never ever in my life<br />
saw coming! But it’s also about the quality of life outside of work, because being<br />
at SMR — amazing as it is — means working at weekends and holidays to fit in<br />
with the Christian calendar, and I’m looking forward to spending Christmas with<br />
my wife for the first time and spending weekends with her. I’ve talked about<br />
SMR as part of my journey where I’ve learned and grown spiritually and as a<br />
person (and become more ‘adult’ ‘cos I’ve never really grown up!), and now I<br />
want to start my own business and move things on.<br />
— Very inspirational! So what particular memories do you have of SMR. Well<br />
let’s just say two very special services! First of all I was married at SMR. SMR is<br />
one big giant family; everybody at church was involved, and everybody pulled<br />
out all the stops. It was the most exciting and the most emotional day. The<br />
best day of our lives — and our families’ lives too — and SMR put that together.<br />
And another really proud moment was doing my first wedding as a Verger on<br />
my own, and being responsible for bringing the bride in. I find that a bit of<br />
an honour. Matthew had said, “this is your first ever wedding, and you get to<br />
keep the Order of Service for the first wedding you do”, and two years later<br />
Evelyn came to work at SMR — and she was that bride! How strange is that!<br />
God works in mysterious ways. So I showed Evelyn: “Look what I’ve got!”, I said,<br />
“the original Order of Service for your wedding”.<br />
— What’s the title for this — because it’s a very wonderful journey, yours.<br />
Yes, and I was talking to Dan the other day and said I class myself as having<br />
four families now. I’ve got my family in Liverpool; my in-laws in Bristol; I have<br />
my AA family, the fellowship of alcoholics; and <strong>St</strong> <strong>Mary</strong> <strong>Redcliffe</strong>, the biggest and<br />
most dysfunctional of them all! But it’s a family that gives me unconditional love<br />
and tells me off when I need telling off, so it’s the best of all of them really because<br />
I’m there the most, if you know what I mean.<br />
— Will you be coming still to church? Yes, you’ll still be seeing me fairly<br />
regularly at services, and I’ll still do Treefest and the Night Shelter, and I’ll<br />
probably still do a little stewarding.<br />
— Any advice for the congregation at SMR that you know and love? Love<br />
everyone, treat everyone like you’d treat yourself and keep up the good work,<br />
and if we don’t judge people we’ll all be on a happier planet.<br />
— Thanks again Andy, it’s been great to talk; we wish you all the best and will<br />
miss you when you leave — but you’re in Liverpool as we speak, and you’ll be<br />
wanting to get off the phone and back to the family. Nope, it’s good to get<br />
out for 10 minutes — it’s a kids’ party and it’s getting loud...! [laughter...]<br />
Andy Carruthers talked to Eleanor Vousden