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SATURDAY Vanguard, JULY 13, 2019—11<br />

Fulani Vigilante in Igboland will lead to bloodshed FG may not be able to c<strong>on</strong>trol<br />

C<strong>on</strong>tinues from pg 10<br />

Miyetti Allah Associati<strong>on</strong>?<br />

The president General of Ohanaeze<br />

Ndigbo, Chief John Nnia Nwodo, has<br />

spoken, he is very efficient, very capable,<br />

we elected him and he is speaking our<br />

minds. I am telling Nigerians that<br />

anything Nwodo has said is the positi<strong>on</strong><br />

of Igbo leaders because he c<strong>on</strong>sults us,<br />

we accept his leadership and he is doing<br />

well. Igbos have a peculiar way of doing<br />

things, at first you may think that they<br />

are not united. The Igbos are the most<br />

united people, when they reach a point<br />

of affirmative acti<strong>on</strong> and they say “Igbo<br />

kwenu, Igbo Kwenu”, that is the end of<br />

it. For instance in politics, in the last four<br />

years government did not favour us. We<br />

did not get much but we stood by our<br />

positi<strong>on</strong>, if you like take it, if d<strong>on</strong>’t like<br />

leave it,we d<strong>on</strong>’t care.<br />

Have the Igbos benefited from such<br />

positi<strong>on</strong>s that they have taken<br />

Igbos are proud people and when we<br />

take a decisi<strong>on</strong> we stand by it. These<br />

people are daring us. The last time there<br />

was war, Nigerians said the war would<br />

last <strong>on</strong>ly a few m<strong>on</strong>ths but we held<br />

Nigerians for nearly three years. We were<br />

blockaded by air, by sea, by land and Igbo<br />

scientists came together and we produced<br />

all the weap<strong>on</strong>s of war here in Biafra.<br />

Biafra produced rockets that could deliver<br />

up to eight miles. Before I joined the<br />

army, I was part of research and<br />

producti<strong>on</strong> team that produced rocket,<br />

the point was that the rocket was not<br />

guided. Later in the Army, I had an injury<br />

and after the injury I went for a training<br />

<strong>on</strong> an advance military intelligence.<br />

When I finished the training I was posted<br />

to combat engineering. I became the<br />

head of combat engineering intelligence.<br />

I advised our boss then, the head of state,<br />

Ojukwu, that we should withdraw but<br />

because we were able to produce rockets<br />

which we used during the war he had<br />

little hope. Russia, America, Britain were<br />

all <strong>again</strong>st <strong>on</strong>e small country, Biafra, and<br />

yet we resisted.<br />

People came to blame Ojukwu, but<br />

Ojukwu did not declare Biafra. He was<br />

our leader, he led us well. Igbos d<strong>on</strong>’t<br />

aband<strong>on</strong> their leaders, we stood by him<br />

till the last. So the Igbos declared Biafra.<br />

Zik was our leader. The war ended thanks<br />

to Zik. If anybody says we were defeated,<br />

it is not true, Biafrans were trained to<br />

sustain this war as far as Nigeria did not<br />

give us what we wanted.<br />

We <strong>on</strong>ly stopped when our leader,<br />

Nnamdi Azikiwe met with the then<br />

president of Liberia and Gow<strong>on</strong>, and after<br />

that meeting they had an agreement<br />

including ‘no victor no vanquished’<br />

positi<strong>on</strong>. We d<strong>on</strong>’t want to hear that we<br />

were defeated. So, when we heard ‘no<br />

victor no vanquished’ and that all the<br />

people would go back and take their<br />

positi<strong>on</strong>s, the c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s<br />

were very satisfactory.<br />

Yes, we cleared with our<br />

leader General<br />

Odimegwu Ojukwu who<br />

c<strong>on</strong>firmed that we should<br />

surrender.<br />

Otherwise, the youths,<br />

the younger <strong>on</strong>es did not<br />

want to surrender until<br />

Ojukwu c<strong>on</strong>firmed Zik’s<br />

positi<strong>on</strong>. To many of us,<br />

Zik, was like a god,<br />

whatever he said we<br />

would do because he was<br />

very highly respected.<br />

Zik and Ojukwu<br />

persuaded the younger<br />

<strong>on</strong>es to withdraw,<br />

otherwise we would have<br />

c<strong>on</strong>tinued with the war.<br />

So, we d<strong>on</strong>’t want that<br />

situati<strong>on</strong> <strong>again</strong>. We want<br />

them to leave Igboland<br />

al<strong>on</strong>e. We have g<strong>on</strong>e<br />

through war and we do<br />

not want them to push us<br />

into any crises <strong>again</strong>.<br />

Miyetti Allah should<br />

leave things as they are,<br />

they are still grazing in<br />

We <strong>on</strong>ly stopped<br />

when our leader,<br />

Nnamdi Azikiwe met<br />

with the then<br />

president of Liberia<br />

and Gow<strong>on</strong>, and<br />

after that meeting<br />

they had an<br />

agreement<br />

including ‘no victor<br />

no vanquished’<br />

positi<strong>on</strong><br />

Igboland and we are not disturbing<br />

them. We d<strong>on</strong>’t rustle their cows, Igbos<br />

are not cattle rustlers. Igbos host them,<br />

befriend them and buy their cattle, they<br />

should therefore tell those who are<br />

sp<strong>on</strong>soring them to leave us al<strong>on</strong>e.<br />

We have warned them that there is no<br />

need for any col<strong>on</strong>y here and we d<strong>on</strong>’t<br />

want an Igbo col<strong>on</strong>y in any part of<br />

Nigeria. Igbo will not stop<br />

any cattle rearer from<br />

grazing but he should not<br />

graze <strong>on</strong> a farm land and<br />

should not carry AK 47 but<br />

their normal bow and arrow<br />

and stick. So, they should<br />

drop this idea of having a<br />

col<strong>on</strong>y in Igboland or for<br />

some Fulani youths to come<br />

here and form a vigilante, it<br />

is going to create some kind<br />

of violence and bloodshed<br />

which is not going to be easy<br />

to c<strong>on</strong>trol.<br />

As a politician and a<br />

renowned business man,<br />

what is the problem with<br />

Nigerian ec<strong>on</strong>omy?<br />

The problem is very, very<br />

serious. I am a politician but<br />

I am basically a business<br />

man. I read science and<br />

engineering so I have vast<br />

knowledge of many things<br />

in Nigeria. I am very<br />

passi<strong>on</strong>ate about this<br />

country. I love Nigeria so<br />

much, Nigeria has<br />

h<strong>on</strong>oured me three times<br />

and I am not sure how many people in<br />

Nigeria have been h<strong>on</strong>oured three times<br />

with MFR, through the Nigeria Society<br />

of Engineers, OFR and CFR, I am so<br />

•Iwuanyanwu<br />

passi<strong>on</strong>ate about this country. In 2015, the<br />

PDP lost to the APC, and <str<strong>on</strong>g>Buhari</str<strong>on</strong>g> came to<br />

power and expectati<strong>on</strong>s were very high.<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>Buhari</str<strong>on</strong>g> came to power and ec<strong>on</strong>omy was<br />

part of his programmes. People thought<br />

that the ec<strong>on</strong>omy at that time was bad and<br />

needed to be improved. He also talked<br />

about corrupti<strong>on</strong> which is a serious issue<br />

in this country. So, he came in and<br />

everybody had a high expectati<strong>on</strong> and<br />

you could see that the people’s high<br />

expectati<strong>on</strong>s were not met. I am a<br />

Christian, I was brought up in a str<strong>on</strong>g<br />

Christian family. I am a politician, I am<br />

in PDP, I am not in APC. I am not the type<br />

of politician who will not face the reality.<br />

So, I have to say the truth about the whole<br />

thing. On the questi<strong>on</strong> of <str<strong>on</strong>g>Buhari</str<strong>on</strong>g>’s<br />

capabilty, he is capable. People have<br />

questi<strong>on</strong>ed his educati<strong>on</strong> but I d<strong>on</strong>’t like<br />

this story. <str<strong>on</strong>g>Buhari</str<strong>on</strong>g> is a General in the<br />

Nigeria Army, and to be a General in the<br />

Army, you must have attended so many<br />

staff courses. All the staff courses <str<strong>on</strong>g>Buhari</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

has attended were actually good enough.<br />

When the army took over government in<br />

1983, his colleagues picked him to be the<br />

head of state. Before then, he had been a<br />

governor of a state, he had been a<br />

minister. <str<strong>on</strong>g>Buhari</str<strong>on</strong>g> has got a lot of<br />

experience. When <str<strong>on</strong>g>Buhari</str<strong>on</strong>g> took over power<br />

after that coup, he started War Against<br />

Indiscipline. Nigerians at that time were<br />

very undisciplined. They were rushing to<br />

everything. They would rush to catch a<br />

plane, rush to catch a bus, they were<br />

rushing everywhere. But <str<strong>on</strong>g>Buhari</str<strong>on</strong>g> with<br />

WAI, stopped it. At that time if anybody<br />

was jumping the queue, they would say<br />

WAI, and the pers<strong>on</strong> would stop. It was<br />

an achievement he made. When he came<br />

this time around, he talked about<br />

security, but <str<strong>on</strong>g>Buhari</str<strong>on</strong>g> was sick most of the<br />

time and I believe if he were well enough,<br />

he could have d<strong>on</strong>e better.<br />

The ec<strong>on</strong>omic problem under <str<strong>on</strong>g>Buhari</str<strong>on</strong>g> is<br />

said to be getting worse, do you agree?<br />

Up till today, all the ec<strong>on</strong>omic<br />

languages they tell us I d<strong>on</strong>’t understand<br />

them. Why was the naira which was about<br />

N160 to a dollar, allowed to drop to more<br />

than N400 at a point until it was<br />

c<strong>on</strong>trolled at about N360?<br />

Let me tell you, every country protects<br />

its currency. I can’t understand why the<br />

Central Bank allowed the currency to go<br />

from N160 to N400 and even N500 before<br />

it intervened and it started appreciating<br />

until it came to N360. Once the currency<br />

of a country is changed, it automatically<br />

affects everything. For instance, a worker<br />

who is earning N18,000 or N20, 000 per<br />

m<strong>on</strong>th cannot feed himself <strong>again</strong> and that<br />

is why they are demanding for a wage<br />

increase. Even the wage increase of<br />

N30,000 cannot feed a Nigerian. N30,000<br />

is not a fair wage for any worker in<br />

Nigeria today, I d<strong>on</strong>’t know any worker<br />

who can feed with N30,000 in a m<strong>on</strong>th<br />

because the workers have children also.<br />

Can’t Nigeria Government pay N30,000<br />

minimum wage?<br />

If that m<strong>on</strong>ey is paid, Nigeria will be<br />

completely bankrupt. I have d<strong>on</strong>e a<br />

simple rule of the thumb and I even think<br />

that if they pay it this year, the budget of<br />

Nigeria will <strong>on</strong>ly be used for recurrent<br />

expenditure and there will be no m<strong>on</strong>ey<br />

for capital. I think our problem is the<br />

devaluati<strong>on</strong> of our naira and the health<br />

of the President.<br />

Any hope for improvement?<br />

The bright side is that I want to<br />

c<strong>on</strong>gratulate the President for his fight<br />

<strong>again</strong>st corrupti<strong>on</strong>. Yes, people say he is<br />

partial. You know the problem in Nigeria<br />

is that the president is <strong>on</strong>ly <strong>on</strong>e man and<br />

there are people around who have a lot<br />

of influence. But <strong>on</strong>e thing that is clear is<br />

that for the first time in Nigeria,<br />

somebody has taken a bold step to fight<br />

corrupti<strong>on</strong>. That is a major thing I think<br />

he has achieved. I am aware people say<br />

he is partial, yes it is possible. In the last<br />

electi<strong>on</strong>, <str<strong>on</strong>g>Buhari</str<strong>on</strong>g> did not influence electi<strong>on</strong><br />

in the South East like my state, Imo.<br />

Corrupti<strong>on</strong> goes with flamboyant<br />

lifestyle. <str<strong>on</strong>g>Buhari</str<strong>on</strong>g>, all through his time as<br />

governor, minister, head of state, did not<br />

exhibit that type of flamboyant lifestyle.<br />

But I think he made <strong>on</strong>e mistake. If I were<br />

to advise him, I could have advised him<br />

to finish <strong>on</strong>e term and go away. If <str<strong>on</strong>g>Buhari</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

had not c<strong>on</strong>tested electi<strong>on</strong> for sec<strong>on</strong>d<br />

term and had spent <strong>on</strong>ly <strong>on</strong>e term, he<br />

could have been a hero. He could have<br />

d<strong>on</strong>e like Nels<strong>on</strong> Mandela by spending<br />

just four years.<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>Buhari</str<strong>on</strong>g>, has made the mistake of<br />

running for sec<strong>on</strong>d term. He is my friend<br />

but he has made that mistake. The<br />

ec<strong>on</strong>omy is getting worse and<br />

complicated because of insurgency and<br />

herdsmen as foreign investors are<br />

running away. Even Nigeria investors are<br />

pulling their businesses to neighbouring<br />

countries like Ghana, Togo, even<br />

Gambia. If you look at it today, in most of<br />

the northern parts of this country, you<br />

can’t move freely. Farmers are running<br />

away from farms. If care is not taken<br />

before the end of this year the Nigerian<br />

ec<strong>on</strong>omy will come to a halt completely.<br />

Now, where do we go from here<br />

The challenge is at the door step of<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>Buhari</str<strong>on</strong>g>, to either make himself a hero or<br />

not. There is no soluti<strong>on</strong> to the immediate<br />

Nigerian ec<strong>on</strong>omic problem apart from<br />

immediate restructuring. The insurgency<br />

cannot be solved without restructuring.<br />

This idea of some people thinking that<br />

they are going to expand to go and occupy<br />

other people’s territory is not going to<br />

help. If <str<strong>on</strong>g>Buhari</str<strong>on</strong>g> helps to restructure the<br />

country he would the ec<strong>on</strong>omy will<br />

bounce back. He would have ensured the<br />

unity of this country because Nigeria will<br />

become a more formidable united country.<br />

States and local governments will get<br />

more m<strong>on</strong>ey because the federal<br />

government will relinquish what it is<br />

doing presently. So the soluti<strong>on</strong> is the<br />

immediate restructuring of the country.

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