2010 – Issue 3 of 4

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CARDIFF TRANSPORT
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REGISTERED CHARITY No. 1063157
ISSUE No.3 of 4 – 2010
‘The summer of ‘62’
On a Western Welsh Scottish tour with WKG 130, an AEC Reliance
coach in the unique Western Welsh / Weymann style. These were
known to the drivers as ‘Sabrinas’. Why? See page 21.
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At the Barry Festival the former Barry based Bristol VR returned home, now owned by group
members. The group AEC Swift is nearing completion and at its new home at Barry.
Our Chairman gives Vale A.M. Jane Hutt a tour of the showground. (CTPG / J.Hutt)
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CHAIRMAN’S MESSAGE:
It seems that a lot happens between our second and third newsletter
each year! Three months ago the Barry rally had just finished and three
days ago Bus & Coach Wales took over the college car park in Merthyr.
Both rallies were well attended by exhibitors and visitors. I think most
people enjoyed themselves. We received some good publicity prior
to both events which does always help. I would like to thank
everyone that helped me with both events either before or during the
rallies, a lot of preparation goes into the organisation and also making
sure our depot and buses run and look good – where were the 100
members that did not help or assist??
Having just completed our four road runs with a nice mix of old and new
buses and different destinations – I need some ideas for next year both
buses and routes.
Our active fleet has grown this year with eight buses available to us.
A firm favourite in PAX 466F has come to us, this important
historic bus is in fine condition and has been used on a number of rallies,
as its owner decreed. It has fine hill climbing ability with a Leyland 680 in
the front it is audibly different to Caerphilly 32 which still retains a 600.
Another important addition to the MOTed vehicles (and not before time)
is our AEC Swift MBO 512F which has returned from Brent Thomas in
running order. A lot of work has been done on this bus so we are taking
it carefully and getting to know it before going any distance with it.
We had also been donated Cardiff 348 and 510, the Bristol VRT and
Olympian. During August we also moved Cardiff 587 and Western
Welsh 678 from Hereford to the docks yard and depot respectively,
thereby completing the move of the entire CTPG fleet to the Barry area
(other than WW 856 which is still in Scotland.)
There is as always a lot to do at the Depot so please come along and
help out, it is not just the buses that need regular maintenance.
I would like to give members Alan Poole and Cliff Parker our best wishes,
both have been in hospital recently.
Mike; Tel: 01443 862144 Email :mikeystrad73@btinternet.com
Also keep up to date on our Website and Facebook page
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BARRY FESTIVAL of TRANSPORT; (by Paul Gilbertson)
The weather for the sixth successive year proved to be tailor made for
this event, copious amounts of sunshine laced with cooling breezes. The
event was staged at two sites namely the former Western Welsh bus
depot in Broad Street and Hood Road which until the late 1960s was a
rail freight depot for Barry and also used for storage of some of the
famed Woodham Bros. condemned locomotives. The two sites were
linked by a free service of historic buses and coaches manned by owners
and volunteers.
From early morning buses, coaches, commercial and military vehicles,
cars and motor cycles descended on Barry, many from far away places
such as Kent, Bristol, Gloucester, Swindon and Plymouth. Two highlights
of the day as far as buses were concerned was the return of ex Cardiff
AEC Swift MBO 512F of which restoration is nearing completion and the
return of VHB 678S, the former National Welsh Bristol open top VRT,
from Scotland having been far since its days of operating in the Barry area
namely North Wales, & Essex. The latter was joined by open toppers
from the Swansea area, namely Bristols WNO 484, SWN 159 and RTH
931S. Combined with our own Guy meant we had five open toppers on
parade. Other significant newcomers this year were a trio of
Routemasters, the ex. Southdown ‘Queen Mary’ PD3 BUF 278C and the
Burnley, Colne & Nelson Tiger Cub PCW 957.
Various historic vehicles were used throughout the day to convey rally
visitors to parts of Barry and the Vale of Glamorgan and it was a first for
many to ride on an open topper.
The Broad Street bus depot was utilised to display static vehicles in
various stages of restoration as well as selling the usual items such as
model buses, bus photographs and books, and refreshments. As always
our Brinkworth room museum was very popular. The CTPG were
pleased to welcome the visit of the Vale Mayor & Mayoress and once
again we had the support of our local Assembly Member, Jane Hutt.
To achieve such a memorable and successful day thanks due to the
organiser our Chairman Mike Taylor and all the other volunteers who
gave freely of their time to make such an event possible and without this,
transport as we remember it would be just a fading and distant memory.
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WENSLEYDALE WANDERINGS – 2 by Berwyn Prys Jones
Berwyn recalls his visit to Cumbria in the spring of 2009 …………..
As a small mechanical problem brought an abrupt end to my holiday to
the north of England and Scotland last year, I decided I’d give it a second
try earlier this year. The North Yorkshire Moors Railway late spring gala
seemed to be a logical starting point with the visit of ‘Tornado’ a part of
the attraction, so I arrived fairly early one Friday morning at Grosmont
only to find my way barred by the level crossing gates. ‘Tornado’ with its
teak coach attached was about to reverse on to its train.
For such a new engine, it seemed remarkably dirty. It had probably been
at work all week following the unfortunate discovery of a wrongly-cast
(British-made) fusible plug on the previous Sunday. Even the following
day, little effort had been made to clean it up for its clamouring public.
And considering the amount of effort and expense that had gone into
building it, I was rather surprised towards the end of the second day to
hear a bored voice in my carriage remark ‘Oh, it’s Tornado again ...’.
Some people get fed up very easily! Even so, it took us up to Goathland
with no trouble at all and the trains it and ‘Sir Nigel Gresley’ hauled
appeared to be packed. I soon learned that the trains with less glamorous
engines at the front end had much more room in them.
On the Sunday, I paid a visit to the South Yorkshire Transport Museum, a
building rather hidden away at the far end of an industrial estate. Visitors
appeared to be few for an open day but there was one bus running, the
ex-Doncaster Leyland PD2/40 with an ex-trolleybus Roe body. As I’d
travelled on it at a Sandtoft Open Day a couple of years previously, I had
a look around the ex-Yorkshire Woollen District Leyland Tiger
PS1/Weymann (HD 7905) and the ex-Western National Bristol Lodekka
(VDV 760) parked outside, and then ventured in.
The depot contained a number of buses in various states of preservation.
The most striking that day was a Duple-bodied Leyland Comet ECPO/1R
(MHY 765), minus engine and bonnet but newly painted light blue. As so
often happens in such museums, the buses were packed so close together
that it was difficult to photograph or film, or even appreciate, them
properly – a point that should be borne in mind, perhaps, on Barry depot
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open days. One more modern double-decker had been refurbished to
house a collection of exhibits such as uniforms and model buses.
Later that day, a return visit to the Wensleydale Railway led on to a trip
along Swaledale. If you haven’t seen the Julia Bradbury programme of
Wainwright’s Coast to Coast Walk, you may not be familiar with this,
one of the finest Yorkshire dales. The road through it comes close to my
favourite – the Mid Wales one from Abergwesyn to Tregaron.
Former Alexander Tiger CWG 286 at Kirkby Stephen
An overnight stay in Kirkby Stephen brought me to the village of
Ravenstonedale early enough to reach Cumbria Classic Coaches’ bus
depot (aka a large shed housing half a dozen elderly buses) at Bowber
Head. Outside, about to start off, was CWG286, the Alexander C35Fbodied
former W. Alexander & Sons Leyland Tiger PS1/1.
Getting out of the car, the first person I saw was Gordon, the cheery
conductor whose company I had enjoyed so much last year. It was good
to see him again. We bumped and bounced along the road from Bowber
Head towards the main road and a little while later turned off at the
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Lamb and Flag Inn where we spent a couple of minutes parked alongside
a brand spanking new 09-registered ultra-luxurious Setra ‘Grand Tourer’
of Shearings. I’m sorry now that I didn’t get off and photograph the two
together. The contrast between them must have been almost laughable,
yet the passengers on our bus seemed to be quite happy to stay aboard
our 59-year old conveyance!
Our driver was a lady – Alison. There being no glass between her
compartment and the front end of the bus, both she and Gordon were
able to greet the local passengers and the visitors coming aboard. I
wondered whether she found the controls and the clutch in particular,
heavy, but when I asked her about this later she said no: it was quite light
compared to that on the Lodekka ‘which tends to fight against you’. No
jokes about lady drivers, please. Alison drove just as competently as the
other drivers. Soon we were off down the road to Kirkby Stephen and
turning into the yard of the Kirkby Stephen station on the Settle &
Carlisle railway line. The train was a little late arriving but a couple had
let the Cumbria Classic Coaches people know that they wanted to
transfer from train to bus and this they duly did. Integrated transport
rules in the high fells!
Part of the road to Hawes parallels the S&C for a couple of miles or so
and the views are well worth enjoying. There’s comparatively little traffic
so that the leisurely speed of the Tiger meant that we didn’t cause any
unnecessary hold-ups for following traffic. Arrival at Hawes brought us
into this busy little town – it was market day – and the looks on people’s
faces were a joy to behold: from total indifference to amazement and
smiles of nostalgic pleasure.
Parked in the station yard was what I’d hoped to see: LHN 823, the red
Bristol L/ECW B35R that brought back memories of seeing the last of the
United Welsh single-deckers at work. Last year, we’d had the MW, but
now we were heading even further back in time. The journey to Redmire
and back and then on to Garsdale station was even better than last year’s
given the bus’ characteristic sound, and the volume of traffic through the
narrow streets of Hawes meant that we arrived at Garsdale just a few
seconds before the train appeared. Swiss timekeeping on a Bristol L!
On our return to Hawes, I found that the MW had been parked away at
the far end of the car park and a little while later a heavily loaded convoy
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of L and MW left on their return journey to Ripon. The preserved buses
we saw that day seemed to be carrying more passengers than the local
service buses ...
A little later, we returned to Ravenstonedale and Bowber Head via
Kirkby Stephen. Even a whole day’s journeying, though, couldn’t prevent
my looking forward to yet another day on Cumbria Classic Coaches’
preserved vehicles. Last year, they’d introduced another route – to
Barnard Castle— and were running it again this year, so it was too good
an opportunity to miss.
The following morning, outside the depot at Bowber Head, stood ex-
Crosville DLB 978 (627 HFM), the convertible open-topper with its top
firmly fixed on – it was pretty windy that day. With Gordon again as our
conductor, but with the ‘boss’ himself, Will Hamer, at the wheel, we
bumped and bounced along the road from Bowber Head towards the
main road once more and having called in at Kirkby Stephen station and
the town itself, headed off to Middleton-on-Tees. I’d never been along
that road before and the views from the top deck were stunning. We
were very fortunate: the previous week it had been raining hard.
I’d noticed that the Lodekka (or ‘Harvey’, as it’s known to the company)
seemed to climb the hills with rather more zest than I’d remembered
from my own days as a Crosville passenger, so when we stopped in
Middleton-on-Tees I asked Will about this. He told me that the bus had
been re-engined with a Gardner unit but that it had itself been replaced
with a bigger (10.75 litre) one. No wonder it didn’t trundle along the flat
and slow to crawling pace on hills!
When I suddenly remembered that I’d hadn’t seen the company’s latest
acquisition, the ex-Bamber Bridge AEC Regent III, I asked about it and
learnt that it had gone to Brough for testing.
(A good reason to return again soon!)
Following a leisurely walk around the pleasant small town of Middletonon-Tees,
we got back on board for the journey down the valley to
Barnard Castle. I’d visited the place some years ago having seen a
television programme on the Bowes Museum, a French château built in
Teeside by a rich husband and wife who’d been avid collectors of art and
china, including a famous automaton of a swan. I’d have liked to
photograph the Lodekka posed in front of the château but unfortunately
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there was scaffolding around one wing. At two o’clock almost all the
visitors to the building gathered round the mechanical swan to see it
doing its famous 34-second routine of swivelling its neck before diving
into the ‘water’ to extract a fish. The whole audience clapped in delight.
Former Crosville convertible open topper ‘Harvey’ ready to leave Bowber Head
A walk back into the town and a wander round brought me to the
Morrisons’ car park, where our Lodekka was laying over. Our journey
back to Kirkby Stephen was something of a shortcut but none the worse
for that as it took us along the dual carriageway A66 to Brough and then
back to Kirkby Stephen. Before returning to the depot, we learnt that we
had to stop to pick up fuel.
Gordon went through his usual routine of asking if there were any
questions. ‘No? Good! I won’t have to think of the answers!”
We passed a filling station with headroom of about 12’ 6”. Had the roof
been off, we might have been able to stop there at the minor cost of
several passengers being decapitated, but we went instead to one a little
further on where the headroom was over 14’. Even on returning to
Ravenstonedale and the bouncy road up to Bowber Head, I was sorry
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that the journey had to end. Once again, it had been great fun – and the
rest of the passengers seemed to have enjoyed the experience just as
much as I had. Thanks again to Cumbria Classic Coaches and their staff it
had been an excellent and highly recommended day out.
(All photographs by Berwyn Prys Jones)
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JUNE EVENING RUN;
On 16 th June the 1964 Guy Arab open topper was fired up by Ian Barlow
for our evening run. On a very warm evening we made for Llandaff and
the BBC Studios. Our group of about 20 were treated to a tour of the
BBC complex, our guides showing us the various television studios, some
of which were surprisingly small. Certain members of the group took the
opportunity to sit in the newsreader’s chair and on the famous red sofa
used for interviews. Outside the building we were shown the façade of
shop fronts used in the Welsh language soap ‘Pobol Y Cwm’.
The operations suites held a confusing array of monitors and buttons that
eventually bring the TV programmes to our screens. The two hour tour
prompted one to think beyond the flat screen that we look at every day.
Your editor is now convinced that there are no longer lots of little
people inside his TV set !
Many thanks to our guides, the organisers Mike and our own BBC man,
Paul Burgess. The warm evening continued with a final run through
Whitchurch where our bus was the subject of many an odd glance from
those enjoying a drink after the World cup match.
JULY EVENING RUN;
On 21 st July the rain soon eased to bring a pleasant evening. For our July
trip we used PAX 466F, the immaculate former Bedwas & Machen
Leyland PD3/4 which is on long term loan from Julian Peddle. This
historically important bus was the last lowbridge built in the U.K. and the
last exposed radiator Leyland to be supplied to a Welsh operator.
The object of the evening was to visit the garage at Bedwas which is soon
to be demolished. Attempts were made to position the bus to recreate
two photographs taken 36 years ago shortly before the small Bedwas
UDC fleet was swallowed up by Rhymney Valley District Council.
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Those who wished could visit the adjacent club to enjoy a pint. Our
drivers for the evening were Kevin (Gerbil) Edwards and Paul (Tiger
Cub) Burgess. The return run was via Caerphilly Mountain including an
impressive hill start at Watford Chapel where the 680 engine showed its
power. The original 600 engine had been replaced in the 1980’s.
(See the montage on page 23.)
AUGUST EVENING RUN;
Around 30 members and guests met at County Hall on 18 th August for
the last road run of 2010. This time the vehicle was from the Bristol
Omnibus Vehicle Collection which once again Dr Mike Walker drove
over from Somerset. The bus was 969 EHW, a Bristol LD6G Lodekka
with 58 seat ECW bodywork which was new to Bath Services in 1959.
This bus was later used as a staff bus at Bristol Aerospace at Filton before
being bought for preservation by Geoff Green. Some years later the
restoration was completed by Thamesdown Transport at Swindon for
the present owners.
We travelled through the Vale of Glamorgan via Barry and Llantwit Major
in a rainstorm and made for the A48 and Cowbridge. A refreshment
stop was made at The Red Lion, Bonvilston. The little bar had seldom
been so busy. The driving for the evening was shared between Nicky
Reason and Mike Walker. Thanks were given to Mike and we hope he
will be able to visit again in 2011.
NANTGARW VISIT:
Also in August, at short notice, the Chairman organised a visit for the
original members of the 46 Group plus a few friends to the National
Museum of Wales storage facility at Parc Nantgarw. This site, not
normally open to the public, is the resting place of much of the heavy
machinery and vehicles formally housed at the late, lamented Bute Street
Welsh Industrial & Maritime Museum. Naturally of particular interest to
the group were Cardiff Crossley 46 and Cardiff Trolley 215 as well as the
sagging Gelligaer Regal. Also viewed were railway and marine exhibits as
well as other road vehicles including the Treforest made Bown
motorcycles and Gilbern cars made at Llantwit Fardre.
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A PENNY FARE ON A CARDIFF TROLLEYBUS IN 2010
By Peter Smith
After the conversion of the Pengam trolleybus route to oil buses in
November 1962, Cardiff withdrew six of its original AEC trolleybuses
dating from 1942. Five of the six went for scrap, but one vehicle, 203,
was presented to the Reading Trolleybus Society gratis providing they
undertook to retain it in the Cardiff colours of maroon and cream.
Early on Sunday 19/5/1963, two Cardiff trolleybus enthusiasts (Glyn
Bowen and myself) meet up at Roath Depot where 203 is about to be
towed by an ex. Southdown Leyland TD7 saloon DUF 179 to a
temporary home at Chadwell Heath in Essex. The group undertaking the
tow offered both of us the opportunity to travel with 203 on the towing
vehicle; to which I accepted their offer indicating that I would travel as far
as Gloucester with them, but because of other commitments that day
Glyn could not take up the offer.
With the trolley booms making 203 just over 15ft. high, a long circuitous
route had been worked out to avoid the archway at Chepstow, so we
travelled via Caerleon, Usk, Monmouth and Ross-on-Wye; there we set
off on the A40 to reach Gloucester. Remember, this is 1963 and there is
no M4 motorway or a trunk road between Newport and Monmouth.
We arrived at Gloucester at about 1-30pm. where I said my goodbyes to
203 and the towing group and returned to Cardiff on a Red &White
Lodekka, which interestingly exchanged crews near to Newent with
another Lodekka going to Gloucester, maybe this was a regular R&W
practice.
Fast forward now forty seven years to Sunday May 30, 2010; I again meet
up with Glyn Bowen and trolleybus 203 but this time it is at the Sandtoft
Trolleybus Museum in North Lincolnshire. We are both there to see 203
launched after a major £25,000 overhaul. This has included reupholstering
the seats in both the upper and lower deck saloons,
repairing and rewiring the burnt out traction motor and a complete
exterior and interior repaint.
As I pay my entrance fee to the Museum, I am given an old style penny
coin which am I directed to give to the conductor of 203 when I take a
ride on it -- not quite the same as Cardiff’s penny in the slot P-A-Y-E
scheme but nevertheless an interesting way to pay your fare.
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Within minutes of being on site, I meet up with Glyn and we soon find
203 looking resplendent in the streamlined livery that was applied to
several Cardiff trolleybuses in the 1946/7. The rather flamboyant cream
swoops set against the maroon make a really beautiful sight, and one can
only imagine how wonderful the trolleys in this livery must have looked
compared to the dull grey livery of the war years. Although there are
only a few hours left before 203 is to go into service, the painters are still
putting the final touches to the black lining out.
As anyone who has been to Sandtoft before will know, the circuit of
overhead wiring is not very large, but there are usually plenty of
trolleybuses in service to ride on and you can wander around all the
vehicles kept in the covered depot quite freely. The Museum relies
heavily on members to staff it, generally I have found them to be quite
friendly and they give guided tours around both the vehicles and site for
visitors.
As 2-00p.m. approaches, 203 is parked up outside the main building to
await a short speech by the Chairman of the British Trolleybus Society.
Standing there in the sunshine the paintwork on 203 just glistened and it
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was a truly magnificent sight. After the speech, 203 loaded up with invited
guests and just glided away on a circuit of the museum. When I boarded
203 I could see what a magnificent job had been made of the interior,
with the seat backs and cushions all reupholstered in moquette of the
original 1942 style. The polished wood window surrounds and ceiling
strips had all been re-varnished and there was a nice gentle smell of paint
and varnish on 203; anyone of my age group will remember the same
smell from years ago when newly overhauled and repainted buses always
had a nice smell of paint or varnish on them. I gave my penny coin to the
conductor who issued me with a ticket, and as I sit there I remember just
how comfortable seats on buses used to be, nothing at all like the hard
back aching seats to be found on our present day Polish built vehicles.
As 203 gently pulled away, what struck you most was the lack of noise
that one now associates with buses; other than the air compressor
occasionally cutting in and out, 203 was completely quiet.
For the technically minded 203 has a H70R Northern Counties
composite body built on an AEC 664T trolleybus chassis. Although built
during wartime, the body on 203 was constructed mainly to peace time
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standards, this being possible through many of the body parts being
purchased for the vehicles before wartime restrictions had been brought
in. The electrical control equipment, including the 80hp motor was made
by GEC. 203 used just over two units of electricity per mile, which
compares well with say the bendy-buses consuming diesel oil at two miles
a gallon.
The ‘streamlined livery’ was introduced by Mr. W.J. Evans who was the
Chief Engineer of Cardiff Corporation Transport Dept. between 1940
and 1946. Only a very small number of trolleybuses were repainted in
this style of livery, mainly because of a shortage of maroon and cream
paint in the immediate post war period.
Words and photographs courtesy of Peter Smith.
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(Derek and Richard ---- maybe just a little exaggerated!!
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OOPS (3)
Western Welsh 1093 was involved in a collision in July 1964. No further details are available
other than 1093 was then allocated to Ammanford garage. The 10 year old Weymann bodied
Tiger Cub was deemed uneconomic to repair and was ultimately dispatched to Bill Way at
Cardiff.
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THE CARDIFF TD1 / SOUTHERN VECTIS CONNECTION.
by Anthony Brewer with additional information by Chris Taylor.
An article on Cardiff / Crosville TD2 body swaps was told in the March
2010 edition of this newsletter. We now look at Cardiff’s TD1’s
Crosville was not the only large company to use former Cardiff C.T.
vehicles as Southern Vectis also ran a couple down on the Isle of Wight.
In October 1928 a Leyland Titan was demonstrated locally to South
Wales Commercial Motors, Lewis & James and possibly to Cardiff
Corporation. In the event only two Leyland Titan TD1 chassis were
purchased by C.C.T. and both were former demonstrators.
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The first into service was UH 7175 in November 1929. This had a 6
cylinder overhead camshaft petrol engine and a lowbridge 48 seat Leyland
body. This was on loan until purchased by C.C.T. in April 1931. It was
fitted with an oil engine in 1935.
Leyland TD1 UH 7175 (66) with original Leyland lowbridge body (C.J. Taylor)
Leyland Motors opened a service depot in North Road, Cardiff in about
June 1932 and it is likely that the company encouraged C.C.T. to take
another demonstrator. TF6821 (new in 1931) had been on
demonstration with Hull Corporation from Nov. 1931 to May 1932 and
was another example of Leyland lowbridge bodywork. When returned
to Leyland it was converted to oil with an early example of the 8.1 litre
unit. This type of engine lacked power and was later replaced by an 8.6
unit.
TF6821 went into service in the city on 16 th December 1932 and was on
loan until purchased in 1934. This was the second oil bus in the fleet as
Cardiff already had in service an oil engine AEC Regent since the previous
July. The Leyland proved to be economical costing 0.43d per mile
against the petrol bus 2.39d per mile.
Both TD1’s gave good service until withdrawal in 1945. Both were
purchased by Southern Vectis that year as their No’s 709/708 (UH/TF).
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UH7175 as Southern Vectis 709 with the E.C.W. body fitted in 1949 (A.B. Cross)
TF 6821 with E.C.W. Body when in service with Clynnog & Trevor. (A.E. Lambert))
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Southern Vectis fitted both chassis with new E.C.W. bodies in 1949.
They were modernised with the longer CovRad radiator and Gardner
5LW engines to give a further five years service. It was stated that the
steering was very heavy. The original Leyland bodies were sold for use as
chicken sheds and scrapped in 1962. TF6821 was sold to a dealer in
1954 and UH7175 the following year. TF then saw service with Clynnog
& Trevor Motor Co. in North Wales until May 1961. UH went to
Autodrome Engineering, Manchester and used as a non psv until May
1962.
As can be seen by this article, both the Leyland TD1’s managed over 30
years service. Is this the longest ever use of a pre 1930 chassis in the
U.K?
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‘The Motor Bus Operators of Barry before 1945’
by Viv Corbin and Chris Taylor.
The CTPG welcome the publication of a new book dealing with the
history of local passenger transport.
This B5 size perfect
bound book has been
compiled by two CTPG
members who have spent
untold hours trawling the
records of the Barry
Urban District Council,
the local newspapers and
the Glamorgan County
motor tax records etc.
In 132 pages the book
tells of the rivalry
between the bus owners, takeovers and their struggle for survival. The
book contains many previously unpublished photographs
Books are on sale @ £9.99 at the Ian Allan Bookshop, Royal Arcade,
Cardiff, or + £1.50 by post from Viv, 8 Springfield Rise, Barry CF63 1RE
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WHY SABRINAS?
Can’t see the similarities? No, me neither!
Sabrina was a popular TV artiste in the 1950 & 60s. Your editor recalls
that when she was on television his little set took on a strange 3D effect.
DATES FOR YOUR 2010 DIARY;
15 th Sept. Talk by one of Newport Transport’s management team.
19 th Sept. WHOTT Rally at the Devon showground, Exeter.
20 th Oct. Slide show of rail & road from the Alan Jarvis Collection
17 th Nov. Evening Meeting 1930 at County Hall. Peter Heath
continues his ‘World Tour of the U.K.’
15 th Dec. Annual Quiz Night at County Hall hosted by Chris Taylor.
Please check our website for updates; www.ctpg.co.uk
OBITUARY
Sadly, we record the death on 26 th April of CTPG member Terry
Laurie of Rumney. His widow June, has kindly indicated that she
wishes to keep in contact with the group and therefore has now
renewed Terry’s membership.
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About the CTPG
The CTPG lease the former Western Welsh Depot on Broad Street, Barry from the Vale
of Glamorgan Council. The CTPG organises two vehicle rallies each year and holds a
monthly meeting on the third Wednesday of each month. Members receive a quarterly
newsletter and if they wish they can help to restore the Group’s buses, ride on them and
travel to rallies.
The Group aims to preserve representative samples of the buses that ran in South East
Wales and the Valleys, as well as memorabilia and records of the operating companies.
Annual membership of the Group is £15, which runs from the date of joining. Joint
membership is also available for £25.
CTPG Committee
Chairman
Deputy Chairman
Secretary
Treasurer
Membership Secretary
Mike Taylor, 10 Ger Nant Ystrad Mynach, Hengoed
CF82 7FE Phone;: 01443 862144
email: mikeystrad73@btinternet.com
Chris Taylor, 31 Heol Wen, Rhiwbina Cardiff CF14 6EG
Phone; 029 20693734
Gayle Alder, 16 Carter Place, Fairwater, Cardiff
CF5 3NP
Paul Hamley email: squash33@btinternet.com
Derek Perry, 11 Countess Place, Penarth CF64 3UJ
Other Non Committee Post Holders
Editor Viv Corbin email: viv.corbin@ntlworld.com
Webmaster CTPG Mac Winfield email: postmaster@ctpg.co.uk
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PAX 466F
The Massey bodied Leyland PD3/4 was new to Bedwas & Machen U.D.C.
in June 1968, significantly as the last sunken gangway lowbridge bus built
in the U.K.
In the top row of photographs PAX 466F is shown at Bedwas Garage on
30th March 1974 shortly before being transferred to the Rhymney Valley
District Council fleet. It’s looking good in the mid blue and cream livery.
(Top photos Mike O’Sullivan & ???????????)
36 years later an attempt was made to recreate the 1974 photographs
during the CTPG visit to the Bedwas garage on 21 st July 2010. The
Stevenson’s livery had been re-applied for the 80 th anniversary of
Stevensons in 2007. PAX is now resident at Barry Depot on extended
loan. On re-visiting her first depot perhaps the old girl was feeling a
little blue ! (Lower photos V.C.)
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At the depot open day crowds pore over the photos and memorabilia in the Brinkworth Room.
Viv Corbin and Chris Taylor promote their new book on Barry transport history to the
Vale A.M. in front of Phil Wilson’s 1964 former Western Welsh coach (CTPG / J.Hutt)
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