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Advocacy Matters - Summer 2020

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Q. Why did Bennett Jones decide to sign the BlackNorth Initiative?<br />

A. There has never been an initiative of its kind. The BlackNorth Initiative has real momentum<br />

and commitment behind it and has the support of a number of prominent companies and firms<br />

that will hold each other accountable. Associating with the initiative will unify and amplify the<br />

ongoing efforts of individual organizations. It will take a lot of work, coordination and advocacy,<br />

but I believe BNI is set up for success. The pledge Bennett Jones signed requires that we commit<br />

to meeting, on a 5 and 10 year trajectory, certain targets to be filled by Black and other BIPOC<br />

individuals. These positions include board positions, leadership positions, associate and student<br />

positions, etc. The targets were not what interested me. The numbers will fluctuate, but without<br />

having a target in mind, we have been meeting and beating those numbers for years. I was more<br />

interested in other aspects of the pledge, which included an acknowledgement of anti-Black racism,<br />

a need to approach diversity and inclusion holistically, a commitment to increase efforts to make<br />

the workplace a welcoming place to have difficult conversations, a requirement that we share<br />

best practices and unsuccessful practices with other firms, and a commitment to use resources<br />

to work with members of the Black community. As Wes Hall put it, signing the pledge signalled<br />

commitment internally and externally to lead by example. Only about two hours elapsed between<br />

the time I brought the pledge to our CEO’s attention and the firm’s national commitment.<br />

Q. It is early, but any plans you can share yet as to how Bennett Jones plans to tackle the issue?<br />

A. Plans are in progress. We are reviewing what efforts have been most effective for us to date and<br />

areas in which we could and should improve. We are communicating our efforts more regularly<br />

throughout the firm to increase awareness of the issues and of our efforts and practices. We are<br />

openly and regularly having conversations on the Board, throughout management, with partners,<br />

associates, our professional development team and our administrative team and brainstorming<br />

on ways to work with Black communities. Having open discussions makes having conversations<br />

that could otherwise be uncomfortable become commonplace—and feel safer for all.<br />

Q: When, and why, did you get involved with TAS?<br />

I have been a member of The Advocates’ Society since 2006. My litigation career started in Ottawa<br />

and continued in New York until I returned to Canada in 2005. The Advocates’ Society was very<br />

important to my development as an effective litigator and for me to develop a network of litigators<br />

because I was effectively new on the scene in Toronto. I originally became involved because Barb<br />

Murchie, a partner at the firm and a past recipient of The Advocates’ Society Award for Excellence<br />

in Teaching, encouraged me to get involved at a level beyond simply holding a membership. She<br />

cast me in the role of the judge in the Court House Series videos she directed, insisting that having<br />

a Black judge was a good image for people to get used to. I played the role for 13 years and have<br />

avoided seeing the result for fear that I would never do it again. [Editor’s note: she is fantastic!]<br />

Barb also encouraged me to take the Train the Trainer course and teach regularly at TAS educational<br />

programs. I enjoyed teaching, and found I learned a lot from the experience. Eventually, two<br />

TAS past presidents—Jeff Leon and Mike Eizenga—put me forward as a candidate for<br />

the TAS Board of Directors. I joined the Board, and the rest is history!<br />

Q. What are you most looking forward to in joining the TAS Executive Committee?<br />

A. I have officially been on the Executive Committee since June, but participated in the weekly<br />

meetings for several months before then. I now have a true sense of the amount of work the EC<br />

does, and how exceptionally committed its members, CEO Vicki White, and the TAS staff really<br />

are. It is mind blowing. I look forward to contributing sweat equity, and hope that I can provide a<br />

different and useful perspective to the immense body of important work this Society does. I am<br />

looking forward to working with TAS staff, the board, its standing committees, task forces and its<br />

members, to help to steer TAS through our rapidly changing environment. I would like for TAS to<br />

emerge as an increasingly diverse, inclusive, dynamic, adaptable, productive and respected society<br />

of advocates.<br />

Q. What is your best tip for parenting kids while working from home?<br />

A. I mean, it’s not like they are clients, right? Tell them you don’t want to hear from them during<br />

working hours, they can get by on their own, and you don’t have time to argue! I really have no<br />

good advice. Every day is different and everyone’s situation is different. None of it is easy. We all<br />

just have to do our best to carve out space and time to work effectively while maximizing the quality<br />

time we have with our children. In our case, we always try to remember to feed them. We tell<br />

them that we love them and understand isolation is especially hard on them; and try to convince<br />

them that screens can never replace real human interaction. Between Zoom calls.<br />

#DidYouKnow that TAS Members can<br />

post their job opportunities on our<br />

Career Board for free? That’s right,<br />

free! Check out our Career Board<br />

page for the easy steps to get your<br />

next job opening posted with us.<br />

Visit the Career Board<br />

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