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_ andro Zia, Tqveni Taobis kaci Tu<br />

aris vinme, rom TqvensaviT mRerodes da<br />

sxva xma giTxraT?<br />

_ arTanaSi ori kaci d<strong>am</strong>rCa Cveni ans<strong>am</strong>blidan.<br />

kargad mRerian I-II-s (erT-erTi<br />

Cemi n<strong>am</strong>owafaria skolaSi), magr<strong>am</strong> im erTsac<br />

raRaca tragedia SeemTxva...<br />

vanTidan dadis erTi kaci aqa, TelavSi,<br />

I xmas mReris, mxolod patara xma aq, susti...<br />

uSangi SarvaSiZea, 75 wlis kaci.<br />

andro Zia TelavSi bavSvebsac <strong>am</strong>ecadinebs,<br />

paraskevsa da SabaTs, ar unda, swavlaSi<br />

xeli SeuSalos. miaCnia, rom bavSvebs saswavlo<br />

procesi ar unda daerRveT, isev<br />

TviTon `unda Seiwuxos Tavi~.<br />

andro simaSvili 1923 wlis 6 oqtombers<br />

dabadebula arTanaSi.<br />

_ 30-ian wleb<strong>am</strong>de zogierTi momentebi<br />

sizmariviT maxsovs. maxsovs is <strong>am</strong>bavi,<br />

ro Cven saxlSi stumrebi modiodnen xolme<br />

da <strong>iyo</strong> simReraca da qeific, drostarebac.<br />

TelavSi ro Sexvdebodnen erTmaneTs nacnobebi,<br />

naTesavebi, megobrebi m<strong>am</strong>aCemis, papa-<br />

Cemis, daelaparakebodnen, kaco, ra xania simaanTs<br />

ara vyofilvarT, modi erTi, gavuaroT<br />

im xalxso, iqve faitons naxavdnen, Casxdebodnen<br />

da movidodnen. im dros yvelafers<br />

baraqa qonda. ar dayovndebodnen m<strong>am</strong>abiZebi...<br />

_ Tqvens pataraobaSi aliloze Tu<br />

dadiodnen?<br />

_ wina saR<strong>am</strong>os dadiodnen xolme patara<br />

biWebi, mwyemsi biWebi (zogi meRore<br />

<strong>iyo</strong>, zogi _ mecxvare, zogi _ msxvilfexa<br />

pirutyvis mwyemsi). saR<strong>am</strong>oi C<strong>am</strong>oivlidnen<br />

xolme, TaviseburaTa mRerodnen, ubralo<br />

`alilo~ icodnen, maincd<strong>am</strong>ainc saintereso<br />

ar <strong>iyo</strong>.<br />

_ exla rom aris arTanuli `alilo~,<br />

iseTi Tu mogismeniaT Zvelad?<br />

_ ai, rogor movismine: es <strong>iyo</strong> 1930 weli.<br />

Soba Tendeboda. m<strong>am</strong>aCemi adga, Turme,<br />

sufra unda gaawyon, ga<strong>am</strong>zadon. ezoSi ZaRlma<br />

daiwyo yefa. g<strong>am</strong>eRviZa. viRaceebi movidnen,<br />

balkomze Semovidnen, daiZaxes `agaSenoT, aga-<br />

SenoT!~ da daiwyes `alilo~. es `alilo~<br />

imdenad C<strong>am</strong>rCa gulSi, ro roca pirvelad<br />

movismine gonaSvilis xma, simRera radioSi,<br />

vifiqre, kaco, neta is kaci xo ar gacocxld<strong>am</strong>eTqi.<br />

s<strong>am</strong>i kaci movidnen. axalgazrdebi iyvnen,<br />

albaT, 40 wlis asak<strong>am</strong>de, arcki. ro daiwyo<br />

`alilo~, san<strong>am</strong> dasawyisi (solo, n. z.)<br />

C<strong>am</strong>oaTava, biZaCemi da m<strong>am</strong>aCemic gavidnen<br />

karebSi, daudgnen gverdze da biZaCemma I xma<br />

uTxra, abri<strong>am</strong>, danarCenebma _ bani (papaCemi<br />

SigniT <strong>iyo</strong> da iqidan <strong>am</strong>bobda bansa). sufra<br />

ukve gaSlili <strong>iyo</strong>, g<strong>am</strong>zadebuli. im dRisiT,<br />

ar vici, erTi 7-jer imReres `alilo~. imReres,<br />

mere mezoblebTan gadavidnen, imaTac umReres,<br />

TiTo WiqiT daloces ojaxi da wavidnen.<br />

me Zalian C<strong>am</strong>rCa es gunebaSi. mere iwyeba<br />

koleqtivizaciis periodi. TandaTan es Zveli<br />

saritualo <strong>am</strong>bebi ukan ixevs. modis revoluciuri<br />

simRerebi.<br />

_ mere ukve aRar dadiodnen?<br />

_ dadiodnen, magr<strong>am</strong> erTi simRera <strong>iyo</strong><br />

_ `Cveno stalin, Cveno mkvidro, Cveno dido<br />

mo<strong>am</strong>agev~ da im motivze mRerodnen `alilos~.<br />

exla kide movlen da `alilo, alilo,<br />

alilo~ (daiZaxeben, n. z.) da eg ari, garbian.<br />

_ 1966 weli unda yofil<strong>iyo</strong>. nafareuleli<br />

saSa CikvaiZe (isic kargi mom-<br />

Rerali kaci <strong>iyo</strong>, sxvaTa Soris, biZaCemi da<br />

is partniorebi iyvnen da Zalian kargad<br />

mRerodnen erTmaneTSi) movida m<strong>am</strong>aCemis sanaxavad.<br />

sufra gavSaleT, Cveulebriv, dasxdnen<br />

da igoneben warsuls, Zveleburs da saS<strong>am</strong><br />

uTxra: abri, modi erTi, `alilo~ vimReroT,<br />

kaco, r<strong>am</strong>deni xania, ar gvimReriao. imReres<br />

<strong>am</strong>aT es `alilo~. im R<strong>am</strong>es raRaca d<strong>am</strong>emarTa,<br />

<strong>am</strong>ekviata es melodia, ZilSi TandaTan vixseneb<br />

TiTeul niuanss _ rogori <strong>iyo</strong> Casvla, rogor<br />

ari gadasvla. meore dRes venaxSi wavedi,<br />

Tana vmuSaob da Tan es perseveracia<br />

d<strong>am</strong>emarTa. verafriT ver movicile. iqve,<br />

venaxis mezoblad iosebi cxovrobda,<br />

CaxutaSvili (Cemi partniori <strong>iyo</strong>, CemTan<br />

erTad mReroda ans<strong>am</strong>blSi, naTlim<strong>am</strong>ebi<br />

viyaviT erTmaneTisa). gadavedi imasTan da<br />

vuTxari, egeTi <strong>am</strong>bavia da es `alilo~ unda<br />

aRvadginoT-meTqi. I xma dav<strong>am</strong>uSave, vici,<br />

magr<strong>am</strong> II xma, ori Tu ara varT, igre... san<strong>am</strong><br />

d<strong>am</strong>aviwydeba es melodia, unda aRvadginoT.<br />

mzis Casvl<strong>am</strong>de egre mwvaneze varT w<strong>am</strong>owolili<br />

da vRiRinebT CvenTvis da, rogorc <strong>iyo</strong>,<br />

iinntteerrvviiuu aannddrroo ssiimmaaSSvviillTTaann

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