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internet-media seqtemberSi masmediaSi xmauriani kampania Catarda, romelic, aw ukve moskovis yofili meris iuri luJkovis moxsnisaken iyo mimarTuli. es iyo pirveli SemTxveva bolo aTi wlis ganmavlobaSi, roca ruseTis sainformacio sivrceSi xelisuflebisTvis brZolis gamoZaxili gaisma. raRac kuTxiT es iyo gamonaklisi, romelmac daadastura wesi: xalxs Seaxsenes, rom bolo periodis ganmavlobaSi politikuri cxovreba mosawyeni iyo. sajarod amgvari Tavlafis dasxma 90-iani wlebis Semdeg aravis axsovs, roca mowinaaRmdege oligarqebi sakuTar `sainformacio omebs~ awarmoebdnen. prezidentma medvedevma luJkovis winaaRmdeg saxelmwifo telearxebis mrisxane flotilia momarTa (rogorc zogierTebs miaCniaT, kritikis samagierod) da orkviriani saeTero `blickrigis~ manZilze eqs-meri yvela codvaSi daadanaSaules _ korufciiT dawyebuli, mefutkreobaSi arasakmarisi warmatebebiT damTavrebuli. luJkovis bedi 28 seqtembers gadawyda _ medvedevma igi gaaTavisufla. da politologTa didi nawili axla miiCnevs, rom ukanaskneli damoukidebeli politikosis wasvliT ruseTi kidev ufro mosawyeni gaxdeba (Tu es saerTod SesaZlebelia). ra Tqma unda, am qveyanaSi politikuri cxovreba pluralizmiT arasdros gamoir- Ceoda, magram vladimer putinis eram politikuri monoTeizmi axal doneze aiyvana: presas aRviri amosdes, xolo odesRac amayi saxelmwifo saTaTbiro lobirebis institutad gadaiqca. erTaderTi, politikuri xasiaTis uxerxulobis gamomwvevi kiTxva gaxlavT: ramden adamians ekuTvnis xelisufleba _ erTs Tu ors? es Tavsatexi _ medvedevisa da putinis urTierToba _ aris moulodnelobis erTaderTi elementi rusul politikur ganSlaSi. politikaze Semsxdari moskovelebi, praqtikulad, mowydnen TavianT narkotiks da erTaderTi, rac maT rCebaT, is aris, rom jer TiTqos adrea 2014 wlis zamTris olimpiadis politikaze fiqri, magram momavali olimpiuri TamaSebi soWSi, ruseTSi, afxazeTidan sul ramdenime milSi unda Catardes. es is teritoriaa, romelic ruseTma saqarTvelos samxedro Zalis gamoyenebiT waarTva 2008 wels. martivad rom vTqvaT, rTuli situacia iqmneba. mzadeba SeZlebisdagvarad male unda daiwyos. msoflio sazogadoebis mcire nawili varaudobs, rom SeerTebuli Statebi da evropa soWis TamaSebs boikots gamoucxadeben, rogorc es 1980 wels moskovis olimpiadisas moxda. 2014 wlis olimpiadaSi monawileoba, Tu arsebul garemoebebs gaviTvaliswinebT, xom imas gulisxmobs, rom yvelani monawileni vxdebiT ruseTis mier danergili praqtikisa _ evropis sazRvrebis Secvlisa Zalis meSveobiT maSinac ki, Tu am cvlilebebs principulad uarvyofT; ufro metic, es imas niSnavs, rom Cveni qmedebiT kidev ufro gavamyarebT am praqtikas. warmovidginoT garemoebis praqtikuli aspeqtebi. afxazeTi msoflios yvela qveynis azriT (ruseTis, venesuelis, nikaraguasa da Carlz kloveri internet-media internet-media or ori or i uZlieres uZlieresi uZlieres i arCevnebisTvis arCevnebisTvis Zalebs Zalebs atolebs! atolebs! gaixsenon civi omisdroindeli sovetologia, roca centraluri sadazvervo biuros brigadebi swavlobdnen `pravdis~ bolo gverdze gamoqveynebul teqstebs; aseve partiuli muSakebis ganTavsebis sqemas sapirvelmaiso aRlumebze, raTa emkiTxavaT, vin adioda sima- Rleze da vin, piriqiT. dRevandeli `sovetologebi~ ki medvedevsa da putins Soris dapirispirebis arsebobis nebismier miniSnebas yvelaze xSirad raime sainteresos momaswaveblad aRiqvamen. magaliTad: medvedevi saubrobs demokratiul reformebze, putini _ ar saubrobs; medvedevi ambobs, rom navTobze damokidebuleba `primitivizms~ niSnavs, putini ki ambobda, rom ruseTi _ ès energetikuli zederJavaa~; medvedevi ambobs, rom ekonomikas sruli reformireba sWirdeba, putini ki brZanebs, rom ekonomika `janmrTelia~. es stilis sakiTxia Tu politikuri `tandemis~ SigniT ganxeTqileba mwifdeba _ ai es aris daZabuli kamaTebis Tema. bevrs miaCnia, rom putins profesionalurad SeuZlia `Zafebis moqaCva~; medvedevi ki, maTi azriT, zis prezidentis savarZelSi, raTa igi moZRvris dabrunebamde ar gacivdes, xolo maT Soris dapirispirebis nebismieri maCvenebeli mxoloddamxolod publikaze muSaobis Sedegia. sxvebi varaudoben, rom putini medvedevze Zlieria, magram medvedevma, SesaZloa, odesRac brZola gamoucxados putinis mefobas. Jurnalis `niu Taimsi~ mTavari redaqtori evgenia albaci maT Sorisaa, visac putinmedvedevis dapirispirebisa sjera. medvedevs is 1980-iani wlebis mixeil gorbaCovs adarebs, rodesac mas komunisturi partiis radikalebi daupirispirdnen, man ki ekonomikuri da politikuri reformebis daxmarebiT liberalurad moazrovne inteligencias Soris eleqtoraluri baza gaimyara. `medvedevi elitis garkveul seqtors eyrdnoba, romelic sazogadoebaze mis Sexedulebebs iziarebs~. _ miaCnia albacs. misi azriT, medvedevi, ise rom Riad ar ebrZvis putins, cdilobs cxovreba gaurTulos radikalebs da amisaTvis specialurad qmnis uTanxmoebebs sisxlxorceulad saintereso sakiTxebze; kerZod, samarTaldamcavi organoebis reformirebasa da CinovnikTa Soris korufciaze. Zalze sarwmunoa, rom putinsa da medvedevs Soris dapirispirebis Sesaxeb arsebuli yvela Teoria 2012 wlis saprezidento arCevnebze gaivlis cxovrebiseul gamocdas. 2008 wels putini postidan wavida, vinaidan konstitucia ar iZleva saprezidento savarZlis zedized or vadaze metad dakavebis uflebas. Tumca ucnobia, surs Tu ara mas kidev gaxdes prezidenti. naklebsavaraudoa, rom isini oriveni wamoayeneben sakuTar kandidaturebs. Tu 2012 wlis martamde ramdenime TviT adre romelime maTgani saprezidento srbolaSi monawileobis miRebaze uars ar ityvis, maSin iseTi brZola gaCaRdeba, rom medvedevisa da luJkovis Sejaxeba sabavSvo baRis bavSvebis ZiZgilaobas daemsgavseba. specialistebi ruseTis sakiTxSi aRniSnaven, rom putini bolo ori Tvis manZilze cdilobda, ufro xSirad gamoCeniliyo masmediaSi. xolo 18 seqtembers ganacxada, rom momaval wels pensiebi gaizrdeba, rac Riad mianiSnebs mis zraxvebze amomrCevelTa mimarT. seqtemberSi `valdais~ klubis wevrebTan _ dasavlel Jurnalistebsa da swavlulebTan Sexvedrisas, putinma paraleli gaavlo Tavissa da amerikis SeerTebuli Statebis prezident franklin delano ruzvelts Soris, romelic prezidentad oTxjer airCies. magram medvedevsac surs meore vadiT prezidentoba da yvelafridan Cans, rom arCevnebs umiznebs. seqtemberSi misma pres-mdivanma natalia timakovam, rodesac televizias intervius aZlevda, ganacxada, rom `qveynis meTauris mier SemoTavazebul modernizaciis programas mxars uWers sazogadoebisa da mTavrobis mniSvnelovani nawili. aqedan gamomdinare, am miznebis miRwevas erTi saprezidento vada ar eyofa~. moskovuri yoveldRiuri gamocemis `nezavisimaia gazetas~ redaqtori konstantin remCuki miiCnevs, rom medvedevma moskovis meri imitom moaSora, rom isic politikur mZimewonosanTa ricxvSi Sedioda. `Cveni sazogadoeba ierarqiuladaa mowyobili da Tu gsurs, seriozulad aRgiqvan, vinme Zlieri unda daamarcxo~. _ ganmarta man. remCukma paraleli gaavlo amJamindel movlenebsa da 2004 wels Soris, roca putinma navTobmagnatis, xadarkovskis dapatimrebis brZaneba gasca, riTac yovlisSemZlebeli lideris pozicia gaimyara. kremlis `piarSCiki~ gleb pavlovski miiCnevs, rom arc putinsa da arc medvedevs ar surT erTmaneTTan konfliqti. `maT imedi aqvT, rom arCevani cxadi iqneba~, _ ambobs is. magram misi sityvebiT, rac dro gadis, miT ufro Cans, rom es SesaZloa sulac ar iyos ase. hoda, es niSnavs, rom politikur cxovrebaSi kvlav daiwyeba raRac saintereso procesebi. kurt uolkeri soWis soWis olimp olimpiada olimp iada SesaZlebelia SesaZlebelia ruseTze ruseTze zemoqmedebisa zemoqmedebisa da da samarTlianobis samarTlianobis aRdgen aRdgenis aRdgen is berketad berketad iqces iqces. iqces naurus garda) suverenuli saqarTvelos nawilia. ukve dRes olimpiuri kompleqsis mSeneblebi afxazeTSi arian dabinavebulebi. 2014 wlisTvis iq turistebs daabinaveben. isini ise gadalaxaven sazRvars ruseTsa da afxazeTs Soris, rom saqarTvelos suverenitetze miniSnebac aRar iqneba. TvalSisacemi gaxdeba afxazeTis `saxelmwifoebriobis~ simboloebi _ droSebi, samogzauro dokumentacia da amasTan erTad, afxazeTisa da `samxreT oseTis~ `prezidentebi~ olimpiadas aSS-isa da evropis liderebTan erTad daeswrebian. imisaTvis, rom Tavidan aviciloT arasasiamovno arCevani boikotsa da Tanamonawileobas Soris, SeerTebulma Statebma da evropam mesame gzis moZieba unda moaxerxon: soWis olimpiada im gaWianurebuli konfliqtebis mogvarebis katalizatorad unda iqces, romlebiTac kavkasiam 21-e saukuneSi Seabija. ruseTi dainteresebulia soWis olimpiadis warmatebiT. am interess Cvenc viziarebT. swored es unda iqces Zlier stimulad imisaTvis, rom istorias Cabardes moskovis nulovani TamaSebi, romlebic dafuZnebulia principze `dayavi da ibatone~ kavkasiaSi. es iqneboda saukeTeso gamosavali regionis qveynebisa da xalxebisaTvis, moskovisaTvis, portsmenebisa da olimpiuri TamaSebisTvisac. amis misaRwevad oTxi nabijis gadadgmaa saWiro. pirveli: Cven yvelasaTvis cxadi unda gavxadoT, rom dRevandel evropaSi sazRvrebis Zalis gamoyenebiT Secvla aRiarebuli ar iqneba. diplomatiuri nabijebi axlave unda gadaidgas, raTa Semodgomaze natosa da aSS-evropis samitebze Cven SevTanxmdeT da afxazeTisa da saqarTvelos meore separatistuli respublikis _ `samxreT oseTis~ arcnobis politika oficialurad davadasturoT. miuxedavad imisa, rom detalebi dasazustebeli iqneba, amgvari politika unda gulisxmobdes: a) saxelmwifoebriobisa da am ori regionis mier gacemuli samogzauro dokumentebis arcnobas; b) oficialuri vizitebis dauSveblobas, Tu isini saqarTvelodan ar ganxorcieldeba; g) am separatistul respublikebSi arsebul bizneswarmonaqmnebT- 11
an vaWrobisa da investirebis dauSveblobas; d) separatistTa oficialuri pirebisTvis vizebis gaucemlobas, garda im SemTxvevebisa, rodesac pirobebs aSS da evrokavSiri daaweseben. aqve unda aRiniSnos isic, rom dasavleTi mzadaa swrafad Tqvas uari amgvar politikaze im SemTxvevaSi, Tu saqarTvelosTan ganxorcieldeba SeTanxmeba, romelsac saerTaSoriso sazogadoeba gauwevs zedamxedvelobas. meore: araRiarebis politikis paralelurad, SeerTebulma Statebma da evropam axali biZgi unda miscen Jenevis process _ molaparakebebs saqarTvelos, afxazeTsa da `samxreT oseTs~ Soris. pirveli molaparakebebi, evrokav- Siris SuamdgomlobiT dadebuli samSvidobo SeTanxmebis Semdeg, 2008 wels Sedga, magram axla molaparakebebi SeCerda. SeerTebulma Statebma urTierTobebis gadatvirTvaze 2009 wlis dasawyisSive mianiSna, droa, ruseTmac daiwyos gadatvirTva. mesame: unda ganaxldes Zalisxmeva regionis kidev erTi didi konfliqtis mogvare- 12 bis mimarTulebiT. es mTiani yarabaRia, romelzec somxeTi da azerbaijani davoben. am sakiTxze, ukve wlebia, SerTebuli Statebi da evropa erTad muSaoben da problemis mowesrigebis konturebi karga xania, gamoikveTa. somxur-azerbaijanuli konfliqtis mowesrigeba regionSi stimuls miscemda turizmisa da vaWrobis ganviTarebasa da ekonomikur keTildReobas. saWiroa gaimarTos evropis usafrTxoebisa da TanamSromlobis minskis jgufis ministeriali, romelsac aSS saxelmwifo mdivani hilari klintoni da ruseTis sagareo saqmeTa ministri sergei lavrovi waruZRvebian, raTa konfliqtis mowesrigebis procesze zewola moaxdinon. meoTxe: euTom, evropis kavSirma da SeerTebulma Statebma meti resursi unda Cadon demokratiuli institutebis ganmtkicebaSi, mxari unda dauWiron arasamTavrobo organizaciebs, konfliqturi zonebis monitorings, ebrZolon korufcias da moizidon investiciebi mTels kavkasiaSi, da me getyviT Tqven... (dasawyisi gv. 2) igive informacia modis afxazeTidanac, iqac gamoCenilan `muslimi Zmebi~. imasac amboben, rom es organizacia prorusulia da iordaniaSi sruliad legalurad saqmianoben. _ am kiTxvaze saerTod mecineba. mag iordaniam Tavis Tavs mixedos, is sjobs. `muslimi Zmebi~ verafersac ver miaRweven. rusebi yvelafers mied-moedebian, magram msoflio maT yursac aRar udgebs. es agoniaSi Cavardnili momakvdavis forTxvaa da meti araferi. _ irkveva, rom ruseTi CrdiloeT kavkasiis ganviTarebisTvis strategiuli gegmis mixedviT, iq rusi mosaxleobis gazrdas moiazrebs. es informacia `komersantma~ gaavrcela. _ es stalinuri gegmaa, anu gaasaxlon mkvidri mosaxleoba da iq rusebi gaamravlon. Crdiloeli mezobeli Tavisi samxreTisken moiwevs, imitom, rom Tbili adgilebi urCevnia civ klimats. ise, mec, Tu mkiTxavT, ruseTis teritoria sacxovreblad uvargisad mimaCnia. iq kargia, moiyvanon puri. diax, ruseTi fiqrobs, ise moedos samxreTs, rogorc warsulSi volgispireTidan daiZra da lamis mTeli monRoleTi daikava. es ki gamoiwvevs mudmiv brZolebs. _ qalbatono lela, raRac ise veRar aris ruseT-iranis urTierTobaSic. ruseTis `saxelmwifo korporaciis xelmZRvanelma sergei Cemezovis gancxadebiT, ruseTi mzadaa irans kompensacia gadauxados sazenito-saraketo danadgarebis c-300 miuwodeblobis gamo. ratom gadaifiqra ruseTma iranis iaraRiT momarageba? _ imitom, rom mixvda, ra saSiSroebasTanac aqvs saqme. mixvda, magram jer kidev amerikis jibrze TamaSobs da vaWrobs. didi vaWroba midis aSS-ruseTs Soris, rac arc saqarTvelom icis da arc msofliom. _ seqtemberSi safrangeTsa da londonSi msxvili teraqtebi aiciles Tavidan. saubari iyo imaze, rom al-qaidas teroristebs eifelis koSkis afeTqeba hqondaT gegma- Si, Tumca, oficialuri informaciis Tanaxmad, koSkSi asafeTqebeli mowyobiloba ver aRmoaCines. aris Tu ar es is SemTxveva, romelic Tqven iwinaswarmetyveleT, rom eifelis koSks ngreva daemuqreboda? _ jer pirveli, rom Zalian kargad ipoves asafeTqebeli mowyobiloba, magram ar gaaxmovanes panikis Tavidan acilebis mizniT; da meorec: es iyo realuri muqara eifelis koSkis ngrevisa, magram ara ukanaskneli. _ anu safrTxe kidev arsebobs? _diax, namdvilad arsebobs. _ qalbatono lela, Zalian saintereso procesebi daiwyo arqtikaSi. kanadam iq erT-erT sofelSi specialuri samxedro qvedanayofi gana- Tavsa da wyalqveSa navebis samSeneblo bazis agebas gegmavs. dania saswrafod afarTovebs Tavis samxedro bazas grenlandiaSi da swrafi reagirebis Zalebs ayalibebs sakuTari interesebis dasacavad. rac Seexeba amerikas, misi atomuri wyalqveSa kreiserebiT, rogorc ityvian, gadavsebulia polaruli wylebi. aseve sakuTari interesebi aqvs arqtikaSi ruseTsac. ra xdeba, qalbatono lela, ras eZeben, ras iyofen yinulebSi es saxelmwifoebi? _ navTobsa da gazs iyofen. es ar aris ubralo teritoriuli interesebidan gamomdinare dapirispireba. es aris sakuTari ekonomikis moZlierebisTvis, Sesabamisad, msoflio politikis ganmsazRvrelis rolisTvis brZola. _ sxvaTa Soris, amerikeli eqspertebis azriT, arqtikuli yinulebis qveS msoflios bunebrivi airis maragis mesamedi devs: 29 miliardi bareli navTobi da daaxloebiT 5 miliardi gazis kondesati. vin gaxdeba momavalSi am uzarmazari simdidris mflobeli? _ amerika. _ aSS-s yvelaze mWidrod dasaxlebuli da mdidari Statis gubernatorma Svarcnegerma Statis mosaxleobas finansuri krizisis dasruleba miuloca. xom ar moaswavebs es Tqveni winaswarmetyvelebis asrulebis dasawyiss, rom èkonomikur kriziss msoflioSi amerikelebi wertils dausvamen. rogorc wamoiwyes, ise SeaCereben xelovnur kriziss~ (2008 weli, 23 ivnisi). _ ara, amerika jer ar apirebs am krizisis Sewyvetas. sanam CineTsa da aRmosavleTis qveynebs ar `moaxrCobs~, manamde am xelovnur TamaSs ar Sewyvets. calke aRebul Stats ki amindis Seqmna ar SeuZlia. _ belorusiis erT-erTma maRal- Cinosanma gaaxmovana lukaSenkos gancxadeba, rom im SemTxvevaSi, Tu ruse- Ti ar cnobs mis gamarjvebas momaval saprezidento arCevnebSi, lukaSenko aramxolod `dsT~-dan, aramed yvela saxelmwifoTaSorisi organizaciidan gaiyvans beloruss. gamodis, rom lukaSenko Zalian darwmunebulia sakuTar gamarjvebaSi. Tqven ras ityviT, isev igi gaxdeba prezidenti? _ es kaci ukvdavi kaSCeisaviTaa. gaxdeba prezedenti. mas isedac unda gamosvla dsT-dan da mizezebs eZebs. _ sxvaTa Soris, Cveni gazeTis #3-Si, anu im periodSi, roca belorusi saprezidento arCevnebis molodinSi iyo, Tqven brZaneT, lukaSenkos araTu axla, meoTxedac airCeven prezidentado. saqarTveloSi, sadac demokratiuli institutebi ufro Zlieri, Tumca mainc myifea, Semdgom arCevnebs Zalian didi yuradRebiT unda daakvirdnen, raTa is SeZlebisdagvarad sufTad Catardes. somxeTsa da azerbaijanSi unda gavaZlieroT WeSmariti demokratizaciis moTxovnebi. vaSingtonma unda gazardos Tavisuflebis mxardamWeri aqtebis dafinanseba da iTanamSromlos evrokavSiris àRmosavleT partniorobis~ inicitivasTan. jansaRi politikuri da ekonomiuri procesi aamaRlebs konfliqtebis gadawyvetis stimuls da separatistul mxareebs ufro mWidro integraciis survils gauCens. Tu SeerTebuli Statebi da evropa arafers gaakeTeben, 2014 wels marTlac arasasiamovno situacias gadavawydebiT. magram Tu aqtiurobas axlave daviwyebT, Cven movipovebT pozicias, romelsac safuZvlad demokratiuli faseulobebi udevs da soWis olimpiadamde karga xniT adre problemis grZelvadiani gadawyvetis perspeqtivas SeviqmniT. _ hoda, ase moxda da moxdeba kidec. _ qalbatono lela, ruseTma azerbaijanTan erTob ucnauri xelSekruleba gaaforma, romlis Tanaxmadac azerbaijans ruseTis teritoriis strategiuli nawili gadaeca. es aris daRestan-azerbaijanis sazRvris samxreTis mozrdili nawili. ra xdeba, qalbatono lela, ratom gaxda mudam sxvisi miwebis mitacebaze gamecadineuli ruseTi ase guluxvi? _ jer kidev sakiTxavia, realurad misces ki es miwebi? _ raxan Tqven aseT kiTxvas svamT, ese igi, ar miuciaT. maS ra aris ruseTis am gancxadebis mizani? _ ra da, kremlma amiT kidev erTi bombi Cado daRestanTan mimarTebaSi (xom giTxariT, daRestani Zalian aforiaqebs da aSinebs ruseTs-meTQqi?). fiqrobs, iqneb azebaijani movTaflo da daRestnis winaaRmdeg brZolaSi mivimxroo. mere ki saqarTvelos winaaRmdegac mosTxovos daxmareba. ra Tqma unda, alievi kargad xvdeba, raSic aris saqme, ubralod, ar aRizianebs ruseTs... magram daRestansa da azerbaijans Soris dapirispireba mainc iqneba. _ kidev erTi Tema samezoblodan: somxeTis parlaments jer ar aqvs ratificirebuli rusuli bazebis sakuTar teritoriaze 49 wlis vadiT ganTavsebis xelSekruleba. ra bedi elis am dokuments _ daamtkicebs mas parlamenti, Tu igi faratina qaRaldad darCeba? _ faratina qaRaldad darCeba. msoflioSi imxela cvlilebebi moxdeba, rom amas veravin warmoidgens. _ gavrcelda informacia, rom cota xnis win marneulis raionis erTerTi soflis mosaxleoba Seikriba da ruseTis xelisuflebas mimarTa TxovniT, mieRoT 25 aTasi `qarTveli~ azerbaijaneli Tavis teritoriaze sacxovreblad. _ am moTxovnas ar udevs araviTari politikuri sarCuli. aq imazea saubari, rom azerbaijanelebi Zalian SeizRudnen axali reformebiT, quCaSi mwvanils veRar yidian, Semosavali SeumcirdaT da miaCniaT, rom umuSevrebi arian. amitom iTxoven wasvlas da wavidne, visac unda. _ qalbatono lela, moskovis mTavrobam mosaxleobas putinis sawinaaRmdego saprotesto mitingis gamarTvis ufleba misca, rac aqamde ar momxdara. amaSi medvedevis xeli unda Candes... _ gikvirs? es xom nawinaswarmetyvelebia? medvedevi aZlierebs Tavis frTas da yvelanairad cdilobs, daasustos premieris gundi visac es ar ejera, axla naxos yvelaferi xilulad. _ qalbatono lela, saqarTvelo- Si yvelaferi Zalian gaZvirda. xalxs ukve ukiduresad uWirs... _ samwuxarod, kidev aiwevs fasebi maRla, magram saqarTvelo am gaWirvebas mainc gadaitans da gavxdebiT erT-erTi Zlieri qveyana. gaixseneT, ras vambob: qarTvelebo, cecxlSi gaivliT, magram fexi ar dagewvebaT.
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