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English Book: LOUD ZIKR in the Masjid Elsewhere Reply to MUFTI ELIAS Dear readers, we would like to present the complete Fatwa, which includes those sentences that the "honest" Ulama have deliberately omitted. To make it easy for the readers to understand I will underline those sentences. Fatwa "There is a difference in opinion with regard to loud Zikr in the books of Hanafi Fiqh. Some regard it as Makrooh, on such occasions where it is not warranted, while others regard it as Ja’iz, and this is the preferred option. It would not be beneficial to seek the proof for this as there is a difference of opinion, so who can draw an opinion from here? However, the proof (for loud Zikr) is this, that Allah Ta’ala says: ‘Remember your Rabb in your heart, with humility and softly, and do not be loud’. The words ‘do not be loud’ also refer to loud Zikr, but of a lower intensity. Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) said: ‘Have mercy upon your souls...’ This also includes loud Zikr where Rifq (mildness) is advised and Galo Phaarna (Shriek) is stopped. There are many Mutlaq (unconditional) verses of the Quran and the Hadithes, which denote the permissibility (of loudness)." (Fatawa Rashidia, pg. 252, H.M.Saeed Company, Karachi print) Two very important points are proven from these underlined sentences of "Fatawa Rashidia". These are: 1. Shrieking is stopped in the Zikr, not general loudness. This is an undisputed issue. This was the point that the Deobandi Ulama wanted to hide, but they failed again, and 2. Moulana Gangohi means "medium loudness" by the word "lower intensity" because he has mentioned it in contrast to shrieking. The Deobandi Ulema are guilty of the same crime that they have falsely accused me of comitting. A thief always regards everyone else as thieves! DISCUSSION ON THE LOWEST INTENSITY OF LOUD ZIKR The Deobandi Ulama wrote the following regarding the lowest intensity of loud Zikr: "The renowned Imam Abul Hasan Ubaidullah Bin Hussain Karkhi Hanfi (rahmatullah Alai) (passed away 340 A.H) states: the lowest (intensity of) loud Zikr, is such that one can hear himself. (Hidaya, page 98, vol. 1)" We checked page 98 of "Hidaya" but failed to find this quotation. The quotation which is presented by the Deobandi Ulama is on page 117 of "Hidaya" (Maktabah Shirkate Ilmiah, Multan print) in the section of Qiraat (recitation of the Quran in Salaah). Recitation of the Holy Quran in Salaah has got nothing to do with the disputed subject of loud Zikr. Once again, the Deobandi Ulama have failed to convince us that loud Zikr is Haraam. Even if one has to understand the quotation of Imaam Karkhi as quoted by the Deobandi Ulama above, it becomes relatively clear that the lowest intensity refers to softest tone which is permissible. This would then mean that specific restriction is imposed upon softness, while none has been imposed on loud recitals. Therefore, in our opinion, the readers of this article can clearly identify that the Deobandi Ulama, who ascribe recognition to Moulana Gangohi, are poor students who intentionally interpret their leader’s teaching in order to satisfy their malicious agenda and not the Shariah.. We have proven above using strong Qrain (circumstantial evidence) that Gangohi Sahib means "medium pitch in loudness" by the word "Adna Jahr or lower intensity" because he uses lower intensity in contrast to shrieking. Therefore, the Deobandi Ulama have tried to deceive the readers by translating the word "Adna Jahr" as "softness". PROOF OF MEDIUM LOUDNESS FROM GANGOHI SAHIB Gangohi Sahib writes in "Fatawa Rashidia": Question: What is the ruling according to Muhadditheen and the Four Jurists (Imams) about loud Zikr, loud Dua’ and NooreMadinah Network - http://www.NooreMadinah.net
English Book: LOUD ZIKR in the Masjid Elsewhere Reply to MUFTI ELIAS loud Durood, whether the loudness is gentle or severe, is it permissible or not? Answer: "According to Imam Abu Hanifah (rahmatullah alai) loud Zikr is Makrooh (undesirable) unless the loudness of the Zikr is proven with the Nass (categorical order of statement) in this occasion. The rest of the jurists, Muhaddeseen and Sahebain (Imam Abu Yousuf and Imam Muhammad) regard it as permissible. The way of life of our spiritual leaders is the Mazhab of Sahebain (R.A)". (Fatawa Rashidia, pg. 252, H. M. Saeed Company, Karachi) Gangohi Sahib has made this point very clear that loud Zikr is permissible, whether the loudness is light or severe. Leave alone the medium pitch in loudness, Gangohi Sahib has in fact also proven that severe loudness in Zikr is permissible. How can the Deobandi Ulama still think that the word Jahr (loudness) in the Fatwa of Gangohi Sahib is attributed to soft Zikr when he (Gangohi Sahib) answers a question on the permissibility of light or severe loudness with regard to Zikr? Another Fatwa of Gangohi Sahib Question: When reciting Zikr aloud, how hard can one strike on one’s heart with the word Allah? Can the strike be so severe that one loses his voice? Answer: "Such Shiddat (severity) is unnecessary". (Fatawa Rashidia, pg. 252-3, H. M. Saeed Company, Karachi) It means that Zikr should be recited with a loud tone of voice, but the loudness must not be so severe that the person loses his voice. In other words, there should not be excessive loudness, instead medium loudness. Another Fatwa of Gangohi Sahib Question: Through Zikr, the idea is created in the heart that everyone will regard me as a pious person. What is the remedy to remove this boastfulness? Nowadays, my voice is lost. If instructed, can I start reciting Zikr softly until such time that my voice returns, then I will recite Zikr aloud? Answer: "If the Zikr is being recited for the purpose of public attention, then recite ‘La Howla’ to remedy that. However, it is not suitable to discard loudness for that reason. Certainly for the reason of sickness it is suitable to abandon loudness and adopt softness till the sickness is gone". (Fatawa Rashidia, pg. 251, H.M. Saeed Company, Karachi) We learn from the above answer of Gangohi Sahib that he used to instruct his Mureeds to recite with such severe loudness that they used to lose their voice. Despite the fear of boastfulness, he still used to instruct them to recite loud Zikr. Is it still correct to say that wherever Moulana Gangohi used the word Jahr (loudness), it means softness of the Zikr? THE FEAR OF SHOWING OFF CANNOT BE THE REASON FOR ABANDONING LOUDNESS Moulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi writes with reference to Moulana Gangohi’s Malfoozaat (sayings): "Hazrat Moulana Gangohi instructed a person to recite Zikr aloud, he (the person) said: ‘There will be showing off in this (loud Zikr), should I recite Zikr softly?’ Moulana inquired: ‘In soft Zikr there will be no showing off?’ After asking the person to sit, Moulana answered,’That in fact in soft Zikr there will be more showing off. In loud Zikr people will know that you are reciting Allah Allah, but (in soft Zikr) when one sits putting his head down, people may think that he might be visiting the Arsh and Kursi, even though the person is sleeping.’ "Moulana (Gangohi) further related: ‘When we were in Thana Bhoon in the service of Haji Sahib, a Naqshbandi Shaikh was also living there. During the nights we used to make loud Zikr, and this Naqshabandi Shaikh used to make soft Zikr, but he used to complain in the morning that because sleep got the better of him, only half of his Zikr was recited. We all used to complete our practices.’ "Moulana Gangohi further educated the person: ‘In soft Zikr a person falls asleep, and people might think that this person is in meditation. This is a good prevention of show that the very object of Zikr is not even fulfilled? This is NooreMadinah Network - http://www.NooreMadinah.net
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