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Monday, 3 June 2013 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 19<br />

Krokodillos has been operating now for seven years.<br />

Greg and Sarah now need to spend more time with<br />

their seven-year-old daughter, Madison and they have<br />

had it on the market for a long time. Greg and Sarah<br />

work every day and every night. They work it<br />

themselves to make a living. But the work-life balance<br />

is clearly not there and they cannot spend time with<br />

their daughter. I know that they would love to be able<br />

to take on more staff so that they have more quality<br />

family time, but they have limited opening hours and<br />

have to pay penalty rates to staff for every one <strong>of</strong><br />

those. When people go out for a meal and a drink late<br />

at night, they expect people to be working and<br />

businesses to be able to <strong>of</strong>fer their products at a price<br />

that they are prepared to pay. We need to create an<br />

environment where small businesses are able to<br />

provide those jobs—because, at the end <strong>of</strong> the day,<br />

they are the only ones that will.<br />

The Fair Work Amendment Bill came up for debate<br />

recently, and penalty rates formed a key discussion<br />

point. I note the secretary <strong>of</strong> the trades and labour<br />

council said in a speech on 6 February, 'We are asking<br />

the government to enshrine penalty rates and weekend<br />

work legislation to protect it forever'. I have seen many<br />

businesses in my electorate close down and the<br />

heartbreak and financial and emotional stress that<br />

follows. Unfortunately, this motion demeans the Fair<br />

Work Commission and its role as the so-called<br />

independent umpire. The minister has indicated that<br />

the government would not countenance any reduction<br />

in penalty fees. Therefore, if the Fair Work<br />

Commission rules that way, as the minister has<br />

signalled, it will be perceived that the Fair Work<br />

Commission is being monstered by the minister. I am<br />

very sympathetic to the concerns <strong>of</strong> businesses but, at<br />

the end <strong>of</strong> the day, it is a matter for the Fair Work<br />

Commission to determine, and I hope that it will take<br />

into account the very real impact that they are having<br />

on small businesses.<br />

Debate adjourned.<br />

Department <strong>of</strong> the Treasury and Department<br />

<strong>of</strong> Finance and Deregulation<br />

Mr OAKESHOTT (Lyne) (11:42): I move:<br />

That this <strong>House</strong> expresses full confidence in the:<br />

(1) Department <strong>of</strong> the Treasury and Department <strong>of</strong> Finance<br />

and Deregulation;<br />

(2) Treasury Secretary, Dr Martin Parkinson and Finance<br />

Secretary, David Tune; and<br />

(3) following words by Treasury Secretary, Martin<br />

Parkinson: ‘I can say on behalf <strong>of</strong> David Tune, the Secretary<br />

<strong>of</strong> the Department <strong>of</strong> Finance and myself—and get this<br />

right—were PEFO [the Pre Election Economic and Fiscal<br />

Outlook] to have been released on the 14th <strong>of</strong> May, it would<br />

have contained the numbers that were in the budget.'<br />

The DEPUTY SPEAKER (Ms Owens): Is the<br />

motion seconded?<br />

CHAMBER<br />

Mr Windsor: I second the motion and reserve my<br />

right to speak.<br />

Mr OAKESHOTT: I am all for vigorous debate in<br />

this chamber, as I hope we all are about the ideas<br />

facing our nation, but there has been a recent trend<br />

where rhetoric has drifted a long way from reality.<br />

That is why on the motion last week we got the <strong>House</strong><br />

to move a confidence motion and see the <strong>House</strong> <strong>of</strong><br />

<strong>Representatives</strong> and every single member in this <strong>House</strong><br />

support with full confidence the science community <strong>of</strong><br />

Australia and the advice that man-made climate change<br />

is real.<br />

Likewise, today is a chance for the <strong>House</strong> <strong>of</strong><br />

<strong>Representatives</strong> to express in full its confidence on the<br />

work <strong>of</strong> the Department <strong>of</strong> the Treasury and the<br />

Department <strong>of</strong> Finance and Deregulation and end this<br />

game <strong>of</strong> rhetoric in the public domain, somehow<br />

questioning the advice that is received from the best<br />

that we have got in this country on advice around the<br />

budget, around PEFO and around forecasting and<br />

estimates. It is a problem that, culturally, we seem to<br />

be getting more and more into. Only today the<br />

candidate in my electorate was questioning the<br />

estimates from the New South Wales and the<br />

Commonwealth education departments. We are seeing<br />

questioning <strong>of</strong> the corporate plan <strong>of</strong> the National<br />

Broadband Network. We are seeing ASIO's work being<br />

questioned.<br />

Again, I am all for full debate in this chamber, but it<br />

is drifting <strong>of</strong>f our job if we are attacking those who<br />

cannot respond, who are working in an apolitical way<br />

and providing the best advice possible, and saying that<br />

it is all being done for some sort <strong>of</strong> political<br />

expediency. Public servants are just that—they are here<br />

to serve the public in this country—to serve the public.<br />

They are not here to serve one political persuasion or<br />

the other; they are here to do the job <strong>of</strong> providing the<br />

best possible advice they can without fear or favour. I<br />

would hope that this chamber accepts that,<br />

acknowledges that, respects that and endorses that<br />

ongoing work regardless <strong>of</strong> temperatures raising over<br />

the next three or four months with regard to elections.<br />

My colleague next to me, the member for New<br />

England, and I, on the back <strong>of</strong> the 2010 election, saw<br />

this firsthand with the departments <strong>of</strong> Treasury and<br />

Finance. All the election promises were put on the<br />

table. There was a break <strong>of</strong> the conventions around<br />

elections, where, thankfully, the leaders <strong>of</strong> both<br />

political parties agreed to allow us access to Treasury<br />

and Finance, and we witnessed firsthand the very best<br />

in this country working through all the election<br />

promises made and providing advice, without fear or<br />

favour, at a very difficult time and, in many cases, with<br />

personal consequences to these senior public <strong>of</strong>ficials.<br />

They did it without bias. They sat with the leadership<br />

teams <strong>of</strong> all persuasions, argued the toss, and then put

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