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most of us thought was padded. We<br />

got up a petition to pull out and signed<br />

our names to it, I was the only one<br />

brave enough to sign at the bottom<br />

of the page. Instead of me getting<br />

the band when we left, Basie took<br />

over. That was in 1934.<br />

I remember Duke coming through<br />

on his way West that year. <strong>The</strong>y<br />

were playing the Main Street <strong>The</strong>atre<br />

and some of the boys in Duke's band<br />

wanted to go to hear Basie. Braud<br />

was in the band and he acted biggety,<br />

didn't want to go, said, "What's<br />

he got?" We were playing at the Sunset<br />

Club and finally Duke and the<br />

rest crept around the scrim and<br />

started sitting in. I was playing<br />

right on top of Duke and he 'told<br />

Basie he was going to steal me out<br />

of the hand. Basie told him I owed<br />

him $300.00 and that's how I didn't<br />

get to join Duke during all those<br />

good years he had. It was the smartest<br />

move Basie ever made . . .<br />

Finally Basie opened up, he had<br />

Carl Smith, Lips on trumpet and a<br />

good drummer. We'd start around<br />

ten that night and work straight<br />

through until five in the morning and<br />

never repeat a number. We'd play<br />

nothing but heads and all the pretty<br />

numbers. After we'd finish a set some<br />

of the smaller groups around town<br />

would start in . . .<br />

I left Kansas City that fall to join<br />

Jeter-Pillars band in St. Louis. <strong>The</strong>y<br />

were working for Tom Strapella who<br />

owned the Club Plantation in St.<br />

Louis, and he loved me, gave me<br />

everything I wanted. I could really<br />

drink then and he'd fill up my glass<br />

with solid whiskey. I was up around<br />

260 then, sharp, and a prince. His<br />

brother Jim was the trigger man,<br />

and I said than ten words<br />

to him during the whole time I was<br />

there Wilbur Kirk was playing<br />

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He had the same set of drums that<br />

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tiajesi liars was a Dig star, jut<br />

like tied been with I rent a couple<br />

of years earlier.<br />

When Bennie died early the next<br />

year, Tatti Smith. Mack Washington.<br />

Jack Washington. Buster Smith and<br />

some others formed the nucleus of<br />

the hand Basie had in the Reno Club.<br />

Jo Jones didn't come in until the next<br />

year after that. He was with Bennie<br />

Moten for a while but didn't feel he<br />

had enough experience, even though<br />

we all tried to convince him to stay.<br />

He went back up to Omaha and<br />

worked with Lloyd Hunter.<br />

Basie didn't have it any too easy<br />

for quite a while, because he had to<br />

scuffle for a couple of years before<br />

he started getting big. We were playing<br />

mostly heads too in those early<br />

years, that's why those records jump<br />

so much. <strong>The</strong> arrangements made a<br />

lot of the bands stiff, especially when<br />

you came in to record. You didn't<br />

want to make any mistakes so you'd<br />

tighten up ... if you were a breath<br />

off. the mike would have you. Basie's<br />

band was a great experience and<br />

everyone in the band always knew<br />

when to come in. no signals either,<br />

just a common understanding . . .<br />

I could have been doing the same<br />

thing that Blanton did with Duke in<br />

1939. because Duke explored his<br />

men. and if they had anything to<br />

offer, he'd spot them, which Basie<br />

didn't do. Now that I'm doing it,<br />

they say I'm copying Jimmy, and I<br />

say I'm playing Walter Page. But<br />

here's something, I love Basie ... all<br />

I want is credit where it is due me.<br />

After Basie broke up his band in<br />

the late 40's, I went into Eddie Condon's<br />

and had some big concerts and<br />

record dates. Braud came around. He<br />

quit music and was running a pool<br />

hall and a meat store. I used to have<br />

drinks with him and tried to get him<br />

back into the music business. 1<br />

helped him get inspired to start playing<br />

again. Now he's with Kid Ory,<br />

been to Europe and everywhere.<br />

<strong>The</strong> young musicians all respect<br />

me and love me. When I was up at<br />

Newport this year, I came home with<br />

Wendell Marshall and he was happy<br />

to be with me. We opened up at <strong>Jazz</strong><br />

City with Ruby Braff just a while<br />

back and Milt Hinton came backstage<br />

to tell Ruby he was lucky to<br />

have the daddy with him on bass. I<br />

don't want praise, all I want to know<br />

is that they appreciate what I'm doing<br />

I know what's going on But I<br />

want to know that it's going home.<br />

1 know it is<br />

Every year at the Apollo they have<br />

an all-night session for charity. I<br />

went up with one of my old friends<br />

for a few drinks and felt I wanted<br />

to get in one of the ad-lib sessions<br />

and play a little I felt good but my<br />

friend dragged 1116 back to talk some<br />

more. A bunch of the young kids<br />

came up to us and said, "Hey, old<br />

man why don't you get back and<br />

give us youngsters a chance 9 " I<br />

told them. "Look man, I made mine<br />

you make y o u rs ."<strong>The</strong>y laughed<br />

at me and I told them they ought to<br />

be in their rooms learning their instruments,<br />

woodshedding. I bet them<br />

they didn't know why they were<br />

playing bass. I told them I had my<br />

music foundation and that they<br />

should get theirs.<br />

I learned the history of the great<br />

masters, Cluck, Beethoven, Wagner,<br />

Schuman, Liszt. Bach, Brahms, Puccini,<br />

Verdi, etc. I used to play Bohemian<br />

Girl in concert with the horn<br />

and bass violin. I played bass violin<br />

in a concert brass band for the first<br />

time anywhere, and I used to fan that<br />

horn with a derby thirty years ago<br />

the way the trumpet plavers do today.<br />

I'm not just a bass player, I'm<br />

a musician with a foundation.<br />

If the record companies could just<br />

get to a joint when a band is feeling<br />

right and slide the machine in and<br />

set it up in a corner they'd really get<br />

the band as it should he heard. On<br />

the job, you're natural, but in the<br />

studio you tend to hold back some<br />

things you do when you are in a club.<br />

We've got plans for a Blue Devils<br />

LP that Atlantic wants me to do. I'm<br />

trying to get Buster Smith to come<br />

up from Dallas, but he won't fly. I'll<br />

get him here by train. I'm going to<br />

use Vic (Dickenson! and Buddy<br />

iTate), and probably Sir Charles on<br />

piano. We're going to do all the numbers<br />

we made famous way back then,<br />

and some originals that Buster will<br />

write.

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