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issue, even for women’s organizations. They say<br />

we’re in Afghanistan for the women. They’ve done<br />

nothing for the women. I spoke to some of the<br />

women in Afghanistan. They said, “We don’t need<br />

more soldiers. We need police.”<br />

Q: Tell me about your “Create, Not Hate” program.<br />

<strong>Evans</strong>: We have a “Ten Years and Counting Campaign,”<br />

and part of that is “Create, Not Hate.” What<br />

we’re doing, with a coalition of other organizations, is<br />

going into communities and saying, “Through your<br />

art, your theater, your music, your cultural center,<br />

explain what these last ten years have cost you, have<br />

cost your community, have cost our country, have<br />

cost the world.” What’s beautiful is the experience of<br />

creating art together, the experience of singing<br />

together or dancing together or creating theater<br />

together. That’s enriching. It gives you something<br />

juicy back. And then, out of that, who knows what<br />

happens?<br />

Q: What’s the state of the women’s movement<br />

today?<br />

<strong>Evans</strong>: I’m so excited by women right now, not<br />

just in America but globally. Women really are<br />

coming into their own. We’re standing on the<br />

shoulders of forty years of hard and messy work.<br />

But that doesn’t meant the patriarchy isn’t alive<br />

and well. I’m the chair of the Women’s Media<br />

Center. It was started by Gloria Steinem and Jane<br />

Fonda and Robin Morgan to make the female half<br />

of the population visible. About 97 percent of the<br />

media is created by men.<br />

Q: Maureen Dowd of The New York Times<br />

quipped recently that Obama’s “Yes, we can!” slogan<br />

has devolved into “Hey, we might.” You were<br />

an early supporter of the President, and you’ve met<br />

with him. Such people as Norman Solomon and<br />

Cornel West are using the word “betrayal” to<br />

describe the Obama Presidency. What happened?<br />

<strong>Evans</strong>: I was way ahead of them. In 2007, when<br />

Obama started to run, I wanted to support a black<br />

man for President, I wanted to support an anti-war<br />

activist for President. I thought it would be amazing<br />

while we were at war with Iraq and Afghanistan to<br />

have someone leading the country who said he was<br />

against war.<br />

By the general election, he had started talking<br />

about Afghanistan as “the good war,” and I had<br />

pulled back. As a matter of fact, when I did go to<br />

The Progressive u 35<br />

JOHANNA GOODMAN<br />

“I’m so excited by<br />

women right now, not<br />

just in America but<br />

globally.”

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