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SATNAM RAMGOTRA ||| DW DRUMS<br />

SM A G A Z I N E<br />

SR: Music breaks down language barriers.<br />

That’s something that perhaps may be<br />

taken for granted by the masses. Music<br />

transcends everything, and at the heart<br />

of it is rhythm. I always wanted to play<br />

the drums. My dad was insistent upon<br />

me learning the tabla too. So, when I<br />

started snare drum and drum set back in<br />

5th grade in Canada, he taught me tabla<br />

simultaneously. Now, when I’m asked<br />

this very question, it’s hard to pinpoint.<br />

Western drummers say, “I totally hear your<br />

tabla influence in your drumming!” And<br />

the Indian Tabl-Ji’s (tabla players) all say,<br />

“I can really hear your drumming in your<br />

tabla playing!” For me, they’re one and<br />

the same, but I get how one can hear more<br />

drumming influence in the tabla playing.<br />

I do way more non-Indian gigs as a tabla<br />

player than I do Indian Classical gigs.<br />

Indian music by nature is much looser in<br />

terms of feel and swing. Playing in a band<br />

that doesn’t swing, but wants that ‘Indian’<br />

feel means you’ve got to know how to<br />

turn off that Indian swing and match the<br />

western ‘clave’ if you will. The first time<br />

I understood what Tabl-Ji’s meant by tabla<br />

influence in my drumming was back in<br />

Greece in 1997. I did a clinic at the Poly-<br />

Rhythmos School of Music in Athens. I did<br />

a little solo thing on the kit, what I call,<br />

“Look at me, look at me, look what I can<br />

do!” Then, I did a little solo thing on the<br />

tabla. The whole room, including myself,<br />

said, “Oh, I see!” Then the questions<br />

started to flow.<br />

SD: Would you say you have “chops”?<br />

SR: I went to PIT, and for about eight years<br />

after that, I’d say, “Yes.” By the way, during<br />

those eight years, I was broke, playing<br />

in an awesome power-trio band that<br />

unfortunately couldn’t break loose from<br />

the clubs. Anyway, now I’d say that chops<br />

don’t grab my interest as much as coming<br />

up with a new way to interpret 123-<br />

123-12 accents on 1. Going back to the<br />

previous question, that particular rhythm<br />

is the universal rhythm. It’s present in<br />

every single culture on our mother Earth!<br />

SD: Are you well-versed in many musical<br />

styles? Talk about your educational<br />

background.<br />

SR: “Well-versed” is a really subjective<br />

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term. I get to play many different styles<br />

of music on both the drums and tabla.<br />

I’ve spent a year in Greece playing drums<br />

and tabla on traditional and hybrid Greek<br />

music and I also play with an assortment<br />

of Persian artists. I’ve been drumming on<br />

a legit Funk gig for years and I’ve played<br />

on Punk, Pop, Alternative, and Rock<br />

gigs in the past. That doesn’t necessarily<br />

make me well-versed in my book. Music<br />

explorations really started in my home.<br />

My mom sings and plays the harmonium,<br />

and my late father played the tabla; both<br />

were avid music fans. I’m the youngest<br />

of five children and all of us are extremely<br />

passionate about the music we listen to.<br />

Being the youngest, I was turned on to<br />

everything from 60’s and 70’s Rock, Disco,<br />

80’s New Wave, to hair bands, Punk,<br />

Hardcore, and Skate Rock! Combine<br />

that with Indian Classical, Light Classical,<br />

Indian film and Pop songs, Western<br />

Classical, Big Band Jazz, plus what I was<br />

learning in school, and that’s a pretty wide<br />

variety. Big Band is, incidentally, what<br />

really taught me how to play the drums.<br />

My elementary school band teacher<br />

would send me home with Fusion and Jazz<br />

records to check out Billy Cobham, Steve<br />

Gadd, Elvin Jones, etc. I was very lucky to<br />

have a basement in Canada that allowed<br />

me to practice for a gazillion hours a day.<br />

What I’m trying to communicate is that all<br />

of the music around me constantly taught<br />

me how to play. Practicing was just the<br />

vehicle to make it happen. Can you dig it?<br />

SD: How did you make the transition<br />

from session drumming to composing?<br />

SR: I didn’t know that I completely<br />

transitioned out of it. [Laughs]. It was<br />

more of a natural transition than a<br />

conscious transition. To stop playing or<br />

performing, those are thoughts that do not<br />

exist. In fact, I actually play more now.<br />

Since I play on everything I’m writing,<br />

and don’t just program it, I actually play<br />

the instruments analog-style. It gives<br />

me perspective. After years of always<br />

performing as a side man and always<br />

playing someone else’s parts, I’ve started<br />

looking at what gigs I really love doing,<br />

and which ones have become chores. I<br />

know that sounds a bit ungrateful, it’s not.<br />

It’s just the opposite. When you’re on a gig<br />

and you’re not happy, no one is benefiting.<br />

If it was just about a paycheck, we’d take<br />

jobs that don’t require a lot of passion, and<br />

we wouldn’t mind being bossed around. I<br />

discovered the idea of recording on movie<br />

dates as a soloist, but collaborating on<br />

people’s songs and working with producers<br />

is the most gratifying for me. On movie<br />

dates you might get handed a chart, but<br />

it’s a blank palette in terms of the level of<br />

creativity you want to bring to it. Most of<br />

the time, composers and producers send<br />

me their music and a click track and just<br />

say, “Can you make it better?” I realized<br />

that, in a way, this is sort of like composing.<br />

Then, more gigs started coming to me as<br />

a composer, where they would ask, “Can<br />

you just do a drum/percussion bed?” I<br />

quickly found out that’s actually harder<br />

for me. So, the first time I was presented<br />

with this scenario, I played a solo on my<br />

dulcimer, found a pattern I liked, and<br />

wrote a tune from that. It’s important to<br />

note that I don’t play the dulcimer, nor<br />

have I ever been trained on it, but it has a<br />

series of strings that aren’t rocket science<br />

to tune. It’s played with two thin mallets,<br />

otherwise known as hammers, which are<br />

very similar to playing with drumsticks.<br />

Then, I went back and layered in all of the<br />

drums and percussion. When I played it<br />

for them they loved it, and put in the film<br />

as is. Voila, I had my first additional music<br />

credit, although I don’t think I actually got<br />

a credit in the movie. About a month later,<br />

another composer asked me if I’d like to<br />

co-compose on a demo for the theme to<br />

Outsourced. At the time, it was a new<br />

NBC sitcom. Lo and behold, we got it!<br />

But I’m not composing full scores just yet,<br />

I’m mostly composing for music libraries,<br />

and it’s really fun.<br />

SD: What’s it like engineering your own<br />

drumming performances?<br />

SR: [Laughs] Some days it’s great, and some<br />

days it’s not so great. Sometimes you’re so<br />

‘in the pocket’ and other times, you want<br />

to be at the beach. I’m just kidding, a<br />

little. At first it was weird, but it’s been<br />

a great learning experience. I’m sort of<br />

old school, so I always want to attempt to<br />

deliver a solid take from beginning to end.

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