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<strong>Jeanne</strong> <strong>Hoffman</strong>. <strong>Welcome</strong> <strong>to</strong> <strong>this</strong> <strong>Kosmos</strong> <strong>Online</strong> <strong>podcast</strong>. I’m <strong>Jeanne</strong> <strong>Hoffman</strong>. Today I’m talking with<br />

Institute for Humane Studies Program Officers Dr. Bill Glod and Dr. Phil Magness about choosing your<br />

dissertation committee. <strong>Welcome</strong> gentlemen, thanks for joining us.<br />

Dr. Bill Glod. Thank you.<br />

Dr. Phil Magness. Yeah, thanks for having us.<br />

JH. How much does <strong>this</strong> process of picking your committee vary between schools and disciplines?<br />

PM. Well let’s start with just the United States system. As a standard rule of thumb, most universities<br />

require 3 <strong>to</strong> 4 members on a committee. This really varies by university, it’s often set by the governing<br />

body, the board of regents, and what the minimum standard should be for obtaining a doc<strong>to</strong>rate. There<br />

are 3 <strong>to</strong> 4 different models that are used. The most basic, standard and probably typical model is a<br />

committee of 3 <strong>to</strong> 4 members that are within the department the person is graduating from. That’s<br />

going <strong>to</strong> consist of a chair who is your main point person, your research direc<strong>to</strong>r, and 2 <strong>to</strong> 3 auxiliary<br />

members that are on the committee because they bring something <strong>to</strong> your dissertations. Some<br />

departments do require an additional academic from another field of study. This is especially true in<br />

interdisciplinary programs but also some universities do so just as a rule, so you may be doing a political<br />

science dissertation and you may have a chair and 1 or 2 other members from your committee that are<br />

within your own department, but, say you’re doing a statistical-heavy dissertation, you go over <strong>to</strong> the<br />

math department and find a statistician. Beyond that, there’s a model used by some schools where it<br />

will be 3 or 4 members from your university plus an external reader, and I think we’re going <strong>to</strong> get in<strong>to</strong><br />

that in a little more detail, but the external reader is a faculty member from another university who’s an<br />

expert in the field you happen <strong>to</strong> be writing on.<br />

BG. In my own personal experience, it was a pretty straightforward process. I approached my chair<br />

about doing a <strong>to</strong>pic and he was all-ears, kind of gave me an informal go-ahead. Once you get the goahead<br />

from a chair, in lots of cases he or she will typically select the other readers on your committee,<br />

the auxiliary readers. That may differ, in some places you may be able <strong>to</strong> select all of your readers, not in<br />

my case, but in a lot of cases it’s a no-brainer, there’s not a lot of controversy because the other readers<br />

will be professors in your department who specialize in the field that your <strong>to</strong>pic is subsumed by.<br />

PM. Again, depending on the department, the auxiliary members of the committee tend <strong>to</strong> fall in<strong>to</strong> one<br />

of two categories. The first being a kind of disciplinary specialist, that’s a person who’s an expert on a<br />

very specific <strong>to</strong>pic that may be of value <strong>to</strong> your research. Say you were studying American politics, you<br />

may want <strong>to</strong> bring in a presidents expert <strong>to</strong> your committee. The other is a methodology specialist, the<br />

guy who knows an econometric technique, or a statistical technique, or an archival research technique<br />

in some of the softer disciplines.<br />

JH. Do most schools require an external reader, and how do you go about asking someone?<br />

BG. A little background: I think it’s often an excellent idea <strong>to</strong> invite an external reader even if it’s not<br />

required, especially if he or she is a big name in your field. Oftentimes your dissertation <strong>to</strong>pic is


something you’ll end up knowing better than anything on your own committee, your own home<br />

department, so it’s good not <strong>to</strong> feel like you’re restricted <strong>to</strong> the knowledge of the people who happen <strong>to</strong><br />

be in your department. It’s good <strong>to</strong> cast your net wider and recruit external readers even when it’s not<br />

required, and if your committee’s okay with it I say go for it.<br />

PM. By all means, the external reader is a chance <strong>to</strong> add expertise, add prestige that you otherwise<br />

wouldn’t get in your own department. Maybe you know a specialist that is also doing research in your<br />

field, they could be an ideal candidate of someone <strong>to</strong> approach as an external reader. Another route <strong>to</strong><br />

go about finding one is <strong>to</strong> ask your committee chair. The committee chair should be at the high end of<br />

his or her discipline in his field and would know who the other experts are who bring some issue<br />

relevance or some research relevance <strong>to</strong> your dissertation, so you’re kind of getting your dissertation<br />

before another set of eyes outside of your own department. If your department has a reputation of<br />

maybe having a niche, maybe it’s very strong in Austrian economics but you want <strong>to</strong> see how the<br />

dissertation fares in departments that come from a different outlook on a <strong>to</strong>pic, that may be an<br />

opportunity <strong>to</strong> get that additional reader, that additional level of feedback that otherwise wouldn’t<br />

always be there in your own department.<br />

BG. When it comes <strong>to</strong> inviting external readers, of course I think it’s important <strong>to</strong> go through your<br />

advisor first, you don’t want <strong>to</strong> go over their head first of all [laughter], they’ll be like, “who’s <strong>this</strong> guy,”<br />

right, but your advisor may have good reasons for or against external readers in general or against<br />

bringing in a particular external person. Your chair often has local knowledge, counting in favor of a<br />

reader who you weren’t familiar with, or she may have knowledge of a particularly bad reader that<br />

looked good <strong>to</strong> you on paper, so do confer with your chair beforehand. Moreover, let your chair, unless<br />

you already have a good relationship with the external person, let the chair be the one <strong>to</strong> broach the<br />

<strong>to</strong>pic with the invitee, they will likely have more of a relationship with your chair as being a fellow senior<br />

professor, than with you, who’s a fairly novice grad student that they may not know. I think, all in all,<br />

well-respected external readers are a boon <strong>to</strong> your dissertation, not only in terms of what you can learn<br />

from them, but also as a signal on your CV of the caliber of people whose tutelage you were under. I<br />

know one philosopher who had three external readers in addition <strong>to</strong> three readers from his home<br />

department, and in addition these external readers had been engaged in a scholarly debate with his<br />

committee chair on some of the very <strong>to</strong>pics his dissertation covered, so that was a great dialectic for him<br />

<strong>to</strong> have.<br />

JH. You both sort of stressed the importance of talking <strong>to</strong> your chair and people in your department,<br />

what are some of the biggest mistakes you’ve seen students make in picking their chair?<br />

PM. I’d say not doing their research in advance, not figuring out what the style that particular chair is<br />

going <strong>to</strong> bring <strong>to</strong> the committee, different chairs have different expectations of their students, some<br />

chairs are very hands-on and want <strong>to</strong> see dissertation chapters turned out on that schedule and<br />

reviewed on that schedule before heading on <strong>to</strong> the next stage of research. Others are looking for more<br />

of a big picture, you deliver a finished product, they send their comments on the whole thing back <strong>to</strong><br />

you and you make your revisions. Chairs also differ in the amount of time they want <strong>to</strong> invest in a<br />

particular student, and as a graduate student that’s pursuing a Ph.D., you want <strong>to</strong> find a chair who takes


your research seriously, that takes an interest in your <strong>to</strong>pic. That makes it a lot easier <strong>to</strong> communicate<br />

with that person, it avoids a lot of the pitfalls of falling in<strong>to</strong> the neglect trap. Falling in<strong>to</strong> a situation<br />

where you aren’t getting feedback in a timely manner, a lot of that’s just accomplished by deciding who<br />

you want <strong>to</strong> work with in the first two-<strong>to</strong>-three years of grad school, in your coursework.<br />

BG. I agree with all that. I think one of the mistakes people make is asking their chair at the last minute,<br />

without first establishing a men<strong>to</strong>ring relationship with <strong>this</strong> person. I’ve said <strong>this</strong> elsewhere: it’s really<br />

important that you develop a men<strong>to</strong>ring relationship with a faculty member from day one, early in your<br />

career stage. Very often that person will end up being your committee chair if their research interests<br />

are congruent with yours, but you don’t want <strong>to</strong> launch in<strong>to</strong> the dissertation stage unfamiliar with the<br />

person who will basically be your head coach for the next couple of years. I think another mistake<br />

people make, Phil went in<strong>to</strong> <strong>this</strong> some, they treat their dissertation as just another grad school<br />

assignment. Your advisor is there <strong>to</strong> frame your dissertation, <strong>to</strong> comment on your papers and chapter,<br />

but he or she may vary quite a bit in the level of oversight they bring, so either way you need <strong>to</strong> take<br />

charge. The chair, it is not their responsibility, and it shouldn’t be a presumption on your part that<br />

they’re there <strong>to</strong> give you all the structure, you have <strong>to</strong> set your own deadlines. On a related point, you<br />

don’t just want a nice chair, who will tell you what you want <strong>to</strong> hear and will make the whole<br />

dissertation <strong>to</strong>pic smooth and easy. It may not be fun at the time, but you want a chair who doesn’t pull<br />

punches, who will be willing <strong>to</strong> give you the occasional scathing critique of what you’ve written because<br />

that will make you a better scholar. Finally, I think a lot of people neglect <strong>to</strong> pay attention <strong>to</strong> the<br />

placement record of different faculty members of their department. If you are looking for a chair <strong>this</strong><br />

knowledge should be available through your department, but it’s also qualitative knowledge available<br />

through other, more senior graduate students in your program. “What is <strong>this</strong> chair like <strong>to</strong> work with,<br />

what success have they had, what’s their track record in terms of placing their former students in jobs?”<br />

If it’s someone who’s never had graduate students before or never been able <strong>to</strong> really place them well,<br />

that should give you serious pause in considering <strong>this</strong> person as your chair.<br />

JH. What other advice would you gentlemen give current students <strong>to</strong> avoid common pitfalls?<br />

PM. It kind of goes back <strong>to</strong> what I said earlier, use your first two or three years of graduate school <strong>to</strong> do<br />

your research. When you are sitting in the classroom, you are taking in the teaching style, the research<br />

style of the department before you. At the same time, know that the faculty there are watching the<br />

students. If you take yourself seriously, produce high-quality research for your coursework, that is a<br />

signal that, “Hey, <strong>this</strong> is a student I want <strong>to</strong> work with. This is a somebody that I would be willing <strong>to</strong><br />

serve on his or her committee.” Take your courses seriously, use that as an opportunity <strong>to</strong> kind of<br />

familiarize yourself with your department and the different offerings it has.<br />

BG. Sometimes a particular course paper will be the seed for a dissertation. I would like <strong>to</strong> mention<br />

briefly about the prospectus, the sort of pro<strong>to</strong>-dissertation. The prospectus is what you defend as sort of<br />

a proposal, an outline of what your dissertation will be, usually takes a draft or two, where you outline<br />

your intended dissertation. Then, you meet with your committee <strong>to</strong> defend the prospectus. Usually<br />

they’ll pass it, sometimes they’ll require some revisions here or there. At the prospectus defense, you’ll<br />

probably be <strong>to</strong>ld lots of things you need <strong>to</strong> do differently that you weren’t really aware of going on. That


may feel a little bit overwhelming, but it’s ultimately for the best. They’ve been through <strong>this</strong>, they’re<br />

specialists in knowing how <strong>to</strong> write good dissertations. Nonetheless, you’ll probably be surprised that<br />

the finished dissertation will look much different than the outline you had going in<strong>to</strong> the prospectus<br />

defense.<br />

JH. Well thank you both Dr. Magness and Dr. Glod for joining us.<br />

BG. Thank you.<br />

PM. Thank you.<br />

JH. And for more career advice, visit kosmosonline.org. Connecting the network of liberty-advancing<br />

academics, and <strong>this</strong> is <strong>Jeanne</strong> <strong>Hoffman</strong> signing off.

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