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Nany Evans oral history.indd - Washington Secretary of State

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<strong>Evans</strong>: And we don’t carry that many elect<strong>oral</strong> votes and the whole thing. I know that<br />

when Bob Dole was chosen as the vice-presidential candidate Dan said, “I know I’d be a<br />

better candidate than he is.” I ended up liking Bob a lot. But at that time when he was<br />

chosen he was very sarcastic.<br />

Hughes: Sharp tongue.<br />

<strong>Evans</strong>: We traveled with him later when Dan was in the Senate and he was not that way.<br />

But earlier we went to some things for him here and there, and he just turned me <strong>of</strong>f. And<br />

the voters too, obviously. I don’t think he helped the ticket at all. I think Dan probably<br />

might have been a better choice.<br />

Hughes: Would Dan have taken that if <strong>of</strong>fered?<br />

<strong>Evans</strong>: I think so. Sure. The vice-presidency would have been a wonderful experience,<br />

absolutely.<br />

Hughes: FDR’s first vice-president, John Nance Garner, once remarked that the vicepresidency<br />

“is not worth a pitcher <strong>of</strong> warm spit.”<br />

<strong>Evans</strong>: “A pitcher <strong>of</strong> warm spit” – that’s right.<br />

Hughes: Actually he didn’t say “spit.” They bowdlerized that a little bit. … One <strong>of</strong> the great<br />

political parlor games is “there but for fortune.” Spiro Agnew, who got the spot on the<br />

ticket with Nixon in 1968, turns out to be a tax cheater.<br />

<strong>Evans</strong>: Yeah, he was a disaster.<br />

Hughes: And Richard Nixon is bugging phones and keeping an enemies list. He resigns<br />

over Watergate and Agnew is gone, too. Did you ever think about that, I mean…<br />

<strong>Evans</strong>: “What if?” you mean?<br />

Hughes: Well, “what if?” indeed. Dan could have been president. It could have happened<br />

to you, and you’re so normal – the only way you’ve ever been. How refreshing it is to find<br />

out that Nancy <strong>Evans</strong> is just really Nancy.<br />

<strong>Evans</strong>: No other choice.<br />

Hughes: Not a choice. And why is that?<br />

<strong>Evans</strong>: You say “Nancy is Nancy.” Well, that’s who I am.<br />

Hughes: I know, but I’ve interviewed Nancys who are no longer Nancys because they<br />

became celebrities.<br />

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