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JP The ways how <strong>the</strong> children get to our organization were very strange and very different,<br />

very various. You know, I was working in this department for social care, so for example <strong>the</strong>re<br />

get some children from all over, and also Jewish children, somehow. were getting <strong>the</strong>re. So but<br />

also with whom we had contacts <strong>the</strong>y were simply from our <strong>the</strong> children who had contacts<br />

with our friend we <strong>the</strong>n realized we should form a kind of emergency that <strong>the</strong>re was a problem<br />

where to hide <strong>the</strong>m, what will be <strong>the</strong> place in which <strong>the</strong>y can be living. For example, it could<br />

be a family, or convent, so we had to prepare <strong>the</strong>m for that, and we had to make a special<br />

papers and documents for <strong>the</strong>m. For example, it was our friends who were also in ghetto. So I<br />

remember that once it was a small child and ano<strong>the</strong>r it was a small boy ano<strong>the</strong>r it was <strong>the</strong><br />

whole family that was here. So it was many different ways, I can't remember very well now.<br />

But I also visited ghetto at <strong>the</strong> beginning, but I didn't take any child with myself. For<br />

example, at <strong>the</strong> beginning I got <strong>the</strong> paper allowing me pass to <strong>the</strong> ghetto, and <strong>the</strong>re we were<br />

bringing medicaments and documents, <strong>the</strong>n we had to find where we could put <strong>the</strong> children.<br />

And sometime <strong>the</strong>y were found simply on <strong>the</strong> wall on <strong>the</strong> Aryan side sometimes <strong>the</strong>y left <strong>the</strong><br />

ghetto with those who were leaving <strong>the</strong> ghetto for labor. Outside <strong>the</strong> ghetto, and once it was a<br />

child who was thrown over, and was tied with cushions.<br />

PR So <strong>the</strong> children often times were brought here to this house, and shelter was found for<br />

<strong>the</strong>m elsewhere? Is that correct?<br />

JP Yes, yes, yes. The children were here for some moments and <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong>y were looking for <strong>the</strong><br />

shelter for <strong>the</strong>m but sometimes it was it didn't last so short time. The finding <strong>the</strong> shelter<br />

sometimes it was even three years that we had here a child. Two years I remember. One was<br />

four years, to <strong>the</strong> end of <strong>the</strong> war even. And after <strong>the</strong> war, so ano<strong>the</strong>r situation was when <strong>the</strong>y<br />

were looking for <strong>the</strong> shelter and <strong>the</strong>y asked a lot of convents which with which <strong>the</strong>y had<br />

contacts, and none of <strong>the</strong>m never denied help. The limit of <strong>the</strong> age it was from one year a<br />

until fifteen, sixteen. So as a matter of fact it was not any limit, and for example she I had a<br />

child who was sixteen year old and she stayed after <strong>the</strong> war here.<br />

PR Did you have to teach <strong>the</strong>se children how to be Catholic children? How to say <strong>the</strong><br />

prayers? How to genuflect? How to be a little Catholic child?<br />

JP They had to be baptized, and because <strong>the</strong>re is such in Catholicism <strong>the</strong>re is such a rule<br />

facing <strong>the</strong> death <strong>the</strong>y can be baptized from <strong>the</strong> water, so I myself did it, I baptized <strong>the</strong>m and I<br />

said that it is done, so asked <strong>the</strong>y were asking me, “Now are we now just <strong>the</strong> same like <strong>the</strong><br />

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