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00:23:36:29 an affinity group for people dedicated to alternative and holistictreatments. 00:23:41:0600:23:45:02 We’re called the Non‐Toxics. 00:23:47:1700:23:47:25 We are Los Locas Radicales and WAR, which is‐‐00:23:50:2900:23:54:11 WAR is Wipe Out AIDS and Racism. 00:23:57:1000:23:57:25 Affinity groups within ACT UP, if they worked, when they worked fortheir lifetime, 00:24:03:1600:24:04:02 could be almost like theseclose‐knit communities. 00:24:07:1100:24:07:16 But if an affinity group did something that put your bodies on the line,00:24:10:2700:24:10:29 risked arrest, and sometimes actually did arrest—I’ll speak at least formyself— 00:24:15:0100:24:15:12 my fear level was always very high, and I don’t know if I could havedone it without a group of people within which I felt close to. 00:24:22:1400:24:23:00 I’d seen in similar situations lots, trusted, 00:24:27:2000:24:28:02 liked and several of them loved, 00:24:30:2400:24:31:01 some of the people I was as close to as any people I’ve been to in mylife. 00:24:37:2300:24:52:13 We really began to talk aboutcivil disobedience as a safe tactic00:24:59:0900:24:59:12 for making a stronger statementand as a way of getting media attention. 00:25:03:0100:25:03:09 For civil disobedience, I think it’s absolutely critical to do an affinitygroup structure for safety. 00:25:12:1600:25:13:07 If they’re locking arms, it’s painful, and that force of resistance thatyou’re providing can be used against you. 00:25:20:0200:25:20:07 We really talked about trying to get everybody in the group trained forcivil disobedience, 00:25:23:2600:25:24:02 because you don’t always know when it’s going to happen or whenyou’re going to want to do it. 00:25:26:24