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Record of the Senate - Integrated Bar of the Philippines

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TUESDAY, MAY 8, 2012 63Mr. Roy. Your Honor, if I may.The Presiding Officer. Hindi ba? Hindi ba?Mr. Roy. Your Honor, if I may. Yes.The Presiding Officer. No, I am asking you as a lawyer.Mr. Roy. Yes, Your Honor.The Presiding Officer. Okay.Mr. Roy. If <strong>the</strong> omission is malicious and fraudulent.The Presiding Officer. No, <strong>the</strong>re is no qualification in that sentence.Mr. Roy. Yes, Your Honor. Very well.The Presiding Officer. You are interpreting it. I am using it as literally as I could.Mr. Roy. Very well, Your Honor. We do not argue over what <strong>the</strong> law says. I just wish to pointout that <strong>the</strong> matter <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> $10 million has never been raised in <strong>the</strong> proceedings and this is an extraneousmatter, that is why—The Presiding Officer. Correct.Mr. Roy. —I would like to be guided whe<strong>the</strong>r or not....The Presiding Officer. Wait a minute. Please respect this Court.Mr. Roy. Of course, Your Honor, always.The Presiding Officer. Well, you are not doing it because while this Chair is speaking, your voiceis very high.Mr. Roy. My apologies, Your Honor. I was just trying to make sure that I could be heardaudibly.The Presiding Officer. I can hear you very well. Saannak a tuleng. [Laughter]Mr. Roy. I apologize, Mr. President.The Presiding Officer. You understand. I know your grandfa<strong>the</strong>r was Ilocano.Mr. Roy. I apologize, Mr. President. I did not mean to raise my voice.The Presiding Officer. I would like to tell you frankly that any asset not included regardless <strong>of</strong>its characterization, whe<strong>the</strong>r it is legally obtained or illegally obtained, is a function <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> SALN.Mr. Roy. Yes, yes.The Presiding Officer. And it must be included.Mr. Roy. Yes, Mr. President.The Presiding Officer. So, if <strong>the</strong>re is $10 million and it is proven to be <strong>the</strong>re or one dollarand not included, <strong>the</strong>n it is a function <strong>of</strong> this Court to interpret whe<strong>the</strong>r it constitutes a violation <strong>of</strong>Section 17, first sentence <strong>of</strong> Article XI.

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