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Transcript of the Chat session about Ted Hughes' poem, Crow's Fall ...

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16:26 XXX: <strong>the</strong> crow lauaghed at himself for thinking that he has defeated <strong>the</strong> sun where else ithas changed him ito a difrent person16:26: XXX XXX has left this chat16:26 XXX: If <strong>the</strong> sun still brightened afta <strong>the</strong> crow had flew to it,<strong>the</strong>n why did <strong>the</strong> trees growsuddenly old and shadows flattened?16:27 XXX: leave stenky out <strong>of</strong> this..now we are talking <strong>about</strong> Mr <strong>Ted</strong> Hughes...XXX i agree..suchthings promote lots and lots <strong>of</strong> thoughts..16:27 XXX: KA!16:27 XXX: OK SO YOUR TRYING TO SAY THAT THE CROW WANT TO BE SUPERIOR THAN THESUN.HMMM VERY INTERESTING16:27: XXX XXX has left this chat16:27: has just entered this chat16:27 XXX: this is a horroh <strong>poem</strong> infact this man is not part <strong>of</strong> this world i mean out <strong>of</strong> all things toattack he just chose <strong>the</strong> sun i mean XXXly16:27 XXX: he writes <strong>about</strong> what goes on in his own world and his imagination16:28 XXX: GINGER! YA SIS! U HIT IT16:28 XXX: LOL!!! XXX!! its not him,its <strong>the</strong> crow.16:28 XXX: old trees are associated with crows like black forest etc.16:28: XXX XXX has just entered this chat16:29 XXX: you guys stop revealing your secrets here <strong>the</strong>re is facebook dont act broke...........and ithink he was fighting with <strong>the</strong> sun to eliminate its being but in <strong>the</strong> process it lost its shine and became black...16:29 XXX: aren't old trees associated with old wise owls shano??16:29 XXX: ONE COULD DEFINE THIS POEM AS "DEEPLY" DESCRIPTIVE16:30: XXX XXX has left this chat16:30: XXX XXX has left this chat16:30: XXX XXX has left this chat16:30: XXX XXX has left this chat16:30: has left this chat16:30: XXX XXX has left this chat16:30: XXX XXX has left this chat16:30: XXX XXX has left this chat16:30: XXX XXX has left this chat16:30: XXX XXX has left this chat16:30: XXX XXX has left this chat16:30: XXX XXX has left this chat16:30: XXX XXX has left this chat16:30: XXX XXX has left this chat4


16:30: XXX XXX has left this chat16:30 XXX: <strong>the</strong> sun is pissed with crow becoz it eats up every dead magic and <strong>the</strong> crow is angrybecoz <strong>the</strong> sun keeps burnin its meat i think this is jelousy16:31: XXX XXX has just entered this chat16:31: has just entered this chat16:31 XXX: XXX,XXX,XXX...magic now??16:31: XXX XXX has just entered this chat16:32: XXX XXX has just entered this chat16:32: XXX XXX has just entered this chat16:32: XXX XXX has just entered this chat16:32: XXX XXX has just entered this chat16:32 XXX: caro caro lmao16:32: XXX XXX has just entered this chat16:33 XXX: so wen <strong>the</strong> sun returns its vicious n bright to burn out <strong>the</strong> crows food and <strong>the</strong> crow isnow XXXdy 4 sme pink pan<strong>the</strong>r action16:33 XXX: guys this <strong>poem</strong> is deeeeeeeeep!16:33: XXX XXX has just entered this chat16:33: XXX XXX has just entered this chat16:33 XXX: people16:34: XXX XXX has just entered this chat16:34: XXX XXX has just entered this chat16:34 : why would <strong>the</strong> crow decide <strong>the</strong> sun is white i mean <strong>the</strong> sun will always be yellow16:34 XXX: what is a crow is it that early morning chicken16:34 XXX: WHAT HONI?16:34 XXX: i dont XXXlly understand what you guys are saying16:34 XXX: focus.this has nothing to do with pink pan<strong>the</strong>rs,magic,revenge...yoh!16:34: XXX XXX has just entered this chat16:34: XXX XXX has just entered this chat16:34 XXX: ay ay so do you guys think that <strong>the</strong> crow burned when he battled <strong>the</strong> sun or was it likesome sort <strong>of</strong> punishement16:35 XXX: a purnishment16:35 XXX: how many people are XXXlly in this <strong>poem</strong>16:35 XXX: early morning chicken? <strong>the</strong> crow gt burnt during <strong>the</strong> battle XXX16:35: XXX XXX has just entered this chat16:35 XXX: A CROW IS A BIRD U DUMBO16:35 XXX: u pple i dnt want 2 go 2 deep 4 ur understandin so play along nyc so u dnt get lost intocaro caro zoom kah land16:35 XXX: OH! NOW I GET IT! The XXXson <strong>the</strong> trees are growing old is because <strong>the</strong> process <strong>of</strong>5


PHOTOSYNTHESIS has been altered with. JA!16:35 XXX: yes could be both that <strong>the</strong> crow mite have been burnt/it could be punishment16:36 XXX: What do u guys think he means when he says " where white is blaxck and where blackis white I WON?"16:36 XXX: probably rhea16:36 XXX: ok maybe <strong>the</strong> crow wanted to be <strong>the</strong> only white one bt unfortunately <strong>the</strong> sun wasstagnant alXXXdy.so he tried to take it to <strong>the</strong> dance floor (fight that is) kanti bazo mo shisa(<strong>the</strong>ywill burn him) <strong>the</strong>n he turned BLACK SWART MONSTHO16:36 XXX: even if he battled <strong>the</strong> sun. he would not win any way. that crow got what it deserved16:36 XXX: does a crow have claws16:36 XXX: does a crow have claws16:36 XXX: does a crow have claws16:36 XXX: does a crow have claws16:36 XXX: does a crow have claws16:36 XXX: does a crow have claws16:36 XXX: does a crow have claws16:36 XXX: does a crow have claws16:36 XXX: does a crow have claws16:36 XXX: does a crow have claws16:36 XXX: does a crow have claws16:36 XXX: does a crow have claws16:37 XXX: does a crow have claws16:37 XXX: does a crow have claws16:37 XXX: but <strong>the</strong> sun is not even what kat16:37 XXX: but how does <strong>the</strong> sun punish you?in <strong>the</strong> crows situation,<strong>the</strong> crow went to <strong>the</strong> sun.16:37 XXX: white16:37: XXX XXX has just entered this chat16:37 XXX: which was dumb16:37 : <strong>the</strong> sun must have burned <strong>the</strong> crow XXXlly bad during <strong>the</strong> battle16:37 XXX: if he didnt win <strong>the</strong>n why did he mean when he said he won but he got burned mos16:38 XXX: what is <strong>the</strong> center this person laughed himself into16:38: XXX XXX has left this chat16:38 XXX: concience.caro.16:39 XXX: he thought he won. see thats what happens if you feel supirior while you are <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>lowest rank16:39: XXX XXX has just entered this chat16:39 XXX: where white is black and black is white what <strong>the</strong> hell does that mean16:39 XXX: So is this <strong>poem</strong> <strong>about</strong> a man who is trying to hunt for a crow,or what? o6


16:39 XXX: so u guys r sayin <strong>the</strong> crow asked 4 de battle wat did <strong>the</strong> sun do16:39 XXX: pehapes he did want to be black/maybe he was jealous <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> sun mayb he wantedtob only white16:39 XXX: he is colour blind maybe that happened wen he got <strong>the</strong> sun burn lol it soma workedon his eyes too16:39 XXX: hunting chidibere dnt16:39 XXX: mayb thats why he only so black and white16:39 XXX: guys i dont get where he says attack it and deaft it deos he mean <strong>the</strong> sun because iwnt to know is he going to attack <strong>the</strong> sun?16:40 XXX: yep16:40 : lol i must agree with XXX16:40 XXX: ya XXX.i think he means <strong>the</strong> sun.that is his most prominent opponent.16:40 XXX: THE SUN IS most powerful ELEMENT <strong>of</strong> nature and so anyone who tries to get in itsway will get BURNED,GEBRANT,O CHILE GOED!,BAMSHISILE JENGE BRAAI!16:41 XXX: is ted tryin' to say that he defeated <strong>the</strong> sun, or does he mean we are all <strong>the</strong> same blackor white n' can conquer toge<strong>the</strong>r16:41 XXX: yes he gonna attack <strong>the</strong> sun16:41 XXX: eh eh <strong>the</strong> sun ddnt have his bck.....HE HAD IT WAY BACK16:41 XXX: prominent?? meaning16:41 XXX: i dnt need me any basket ball player16:41 XXX: XXX stil dont get it16:41 XXX: LOL GO XXX THAT IS TOO MCH16:41 XXX: XXX???????????????????16:41 XXX: de sun brightened meaning it gained more power or strength16:41 XXX: lol barbarque16:42 XXX: bye people. nice chat16:42 XXX: THIS CROW HAD A XXXL GOAL GEES WHAT A DETERMINATION16:42: XXX XXX has left this chat16:42: XXX XXX has left this chat16:42 XXX: c ya16:42: has left this chat16:42: XXX XXX has left this chat16:43 XXX: ID LIKE TO SEND A SHOUT TO MY MA ND MY ROEDS FAM16:43: XXX XXX has left this chat16:43 XXX: XXX yeah i thought it bt u said it hala16:43 XXX: overall <strong>the</strong> <strong>poem</strong> sounds crazy but its deep16:43 XXX: WHO KNEW HE WUD GET FRIED!16:43: XXX XXX has left this chat7


16:43 XXX: kay-gee signing <strong>of</strong>f adios michachos16:43: XXX XXX has left this chat16:43: XXX XXX has left this chat16:43: XXX XXX has left this chat16:43: XXX XXX has left this chat16:44 XXX: if only u cud open ur minds we will be long done16:44: XXX XXX has left this chat16:44 XXX: TOTSIENS MENSE!16:44: XXX XXX has left this chat16:44: XXX XXX has left this chat16:44 XXX: ID LYK TO SEND A SHOUT OUT 2 MY MOM ,MY DAD AND MY PARENTS LOL16:45: XXX XXX has left this chat16:45: Love Dorian has left this chat16:45: XXX XXX has left this chat16:49: XXX XXX has left this chat16:50: XXX XXX has left this chat16:50: XXX XXX has just entered this chatAnalysis <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Chat</strong>Types <strong>of</strong> Contribution Number Length Number LengthInitiate Idea 8 103 7% 7%Seeks Clarification 30 397 25% 27%Reflect/Respond to Previous post 50 733 42% 50%Procedural 8 43 7% 3%Miscellaneous 5 45 4% 3%Summatory/Syn<strong>the</strong>sis 5 58 4% 4%Social Stroking 8 52 7% 4%Off topic 4 38 3% 3%118 1469 100% 100%8


Summatory/Syn<strong>the</strong>sis4%Miscellaneous3%Procedural3%Analysis <strong>of</strong> <strong>Chat</strong> Session(Length <strong>of</strong> Contributions)Social Stroking3%Off topic3%Initiate Idea7%SeeksClarification27%Reflect/Respondto Previous post50%9


Contribution by personC 16 225 14% 15%M 14 161 12% 11%D 13 81 11% 6%K 12 128 10% 9%H 11 133 9% 9%S 10 108 8% 7%R 9 108 8% 7%M 7 157 6% 11%T 6 62 5% 4%I 4 65 3% 4%C 4 36 3% 2%R 3 57 3% 4%D 3 34 3% 2%N 2 20 2% 1%G 2 60 2% 4%N 2 34 2% 2%118 1469 100% 100%10


Student contribution to chat1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 162%2% 1% 4% 2%4%15%4%4%11%11%6%7%7%9%9%Conclusions to be drawn1. Majority <strong>of</strong> contributions focused on what had been said before, building on or expanding onideas raised.2. Relatively little talk was Off Topic (only 3%).3. There was very little attempt to bring discussion to a summation (only 4%).4. Understanding <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>poem</strong> did appear to advance during <strong>the</strong> course <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> chat.5. All students participated to some extent, but with half <strong>the</strong> students accounting for <strong>the</strong> lion’s share<strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> exchanges.6. Some students struggled with <strong>the</strong> interface – network responses were slow because <strong>of</strong> technicalproblems involving a shared line with St John’s College.11

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