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EXEC PROFILE<br />

BACKGROUND: Glenn Dicker<br />

met Tor Hansen when they were<br />

five or six years old. They played<br />

in bands and worked at Boston’s<br />

venerable Rounder Records,<br />

where Dicker began Upstart<br />

Records and signed Nick Lowe.<br />

Eventually, he followed Hansen<br />

to North Carolina, where the<br />

duo formed Yep Roc. Despite<br />

the odds, the indie haven will be<br />

celebrating its 15 th anniversary<br />

this October.<br />

Glenn Dicker<br />

Co-owner<br />

Yep Roc<br />

Years with Company: 15<br />

Address: 449-A Trollingwood Rd., Haw River, NC 27258<br />

Phone: 877-733-3931<br />

FAX: NA<br />

Web: http://yeproc.com<br />

E-mail: NA<br />

Clients: Chuck Prophet, Fountains of Wayne, Gang of<br />

Four, John Wesley Harding, Josh Rouse, Jukebox the<br />

Ghost, Los Straightjackets, Nick Lowe, Paul Weller,<br />

Peggy Sue, Robyn Hitchcock, Sloan, Apples in Stereo,<br />

the Fleshtones, the Minus 5, the Reverend Horton Heat,<br />

the Sadies, the Soft Boys, the Soundtrack of Our Lives<br />

“We’ve been putting out a record every two weeks; we haven’t always<br />

done that, but we try to. There’s something about working with a<br />

bunch of different artists that’s really appealing.”<br />

Call First:<br />

I was a music director at the radio<br />

station where I went to college and<br />

had this CMJ directory. When I got<br />

to Boston, I looked in it for record labels.<br />

I went to one independent and<br />

just walked in. That was the wrong<br />

move and I quickly learned I should<br />

call for an appointment. I saw that<br />

Rounder had a distribution company,<br />

in addition to a record label.<br />

That seemed like it would be a place<br />

with more opportunity, so I went for<br />

an interview and they gave me a job.<br />

A Well Rounder-ed Education:<br />

I started at the bottom and worked up<br />

into all the parts of the warehouse,<br />

receiving, shipping, then data entry.<br />

Then I became a buyer for the distribution<br />

company, which was a big<br />

step forward. Then the label needed<br />

a promo person. At that time, there<br />

was one and they needed another. I<br />

got that and learned about the label<br />

side of things, promotions and stuff<br />

like that.<br />

Upstarting Out:<br />

Eventually, I started a label [Upstart]<br />

with the people in my band. Tor was<br />

one of them. We put out or own record<br />

because nobody else wanted<br />

to. It was a complete DIY model; we<br />

were booking shows, [doing] promotion,<br />

the whole nine yards ourselves.<br />

We had an opportunity to work<br />

with Nick Lowe, and the Rounder<br />

folks offered to help us get into business.<br />

They helped set us up to do<br />

bigger things, where before we had<br />

just been putting out small records<br />

that were actually, by today’s standards,<br />

pretty big sellers.<br />

Redeye Distribution:<br />

Tor got a job at Rounder a few<br />

weeks after me. He started working<br />

in the warehouse, too, and as<br />

he moved up he went into data entry<br />

as well. Then a job opened up in<br />

sales, so he jumped into that. From<br />

there, he got hired to work with Hear<br />

Music. They started out as a catalog<br />

company and then started opening<br />

stores.<br />

They ended up being bought by<br />

Starbucks. Then he got the opportunity<br />

to work for Planet Music, which<br />

was owned by Borders. That brought<br />

him to North Carolina. Eventually,<br />

Borders consolidated the whole operation<br />

in Ann Arbor. He didn’t want<br />

to move and that’s when he decided<br />

to start the distribution company [Redeye].<br />

Heading South:<br />

[Upstart] was in a situation where I<br />

wouldn’t be able to do exactly what I<br />

wanted. [Rounder] had given me an<br />

amazing opportunity, but at the end<br />

of the day it wasn’t going to be exactly<br />

what we wanted. So it seemed<br />

like a good idea for us to part ways<br />

and I partnered up with Tor. The label<br />

[Yep Roc] started from that.<br />

Essentially, we started out as a regional<br />

distribution company. I came<br />

right from the label experience, so<br />

I wanted to keep that going. ... We<br />

kept on pushing ourselves to expand<br />

and handle more territories. We took<br />

it one step at a time. We didn’t want<br />

anybody’s help. We wanted to build<br />

it one brick at a time.<br />

Local Flavor:<br />

At first, we were going to shows every<br />

night so we could sign bands<br />

that we liked. It was a very eclectic<br />

mix to begin with, because we would<br />

work with any kind of music. We<br />

would work with a country-ish band<br />

like Two Dollar Pistols and the Comas,<br />

an indie pop-rock kind of band.<br />

On Your Own:<br />

We find out about something, check<br />

it out and see if it’s something we’d<br />

feel passionate about. The music’s<br />

the number one thing—if it’s something<br />

that connects with us. Also,<br />

what are the people going to be like<br />

to work with? Do they have a team<br />

in place? We want to see people<br />

who’ve developed something that<br />

can go out on the road and have<br />

developed a fan base on their own.<br />

Nuts and Bolts:<br />

We’re an independent label and<br />

have very flexible contracts. Because<br />

they’re all different, it’s difficult<br />

to say how it all works out. Usually,<br />

these negotiations play out longer<br />

than you want them to. It’s up to the<br />

lawyers to work out the details. We<br />

usually go in feeling like: if everybody<br />

wants to work together, we’re<br />

going to find a way to do it. So we<br />

try to be flexible. Our attorney is top<br />

notch and he’s a music guy. We got<br />

to know him because he was the<br />

manager of a band that was on our<br />

label. He’s a guy who wants to get<br />

deals done. He’s not going to hold<br />

up the process.<br />

Longevity:<br />

Hopefully, [our longevity is the result<br />

of] a number of things, but number<br />

one it’s the relationships we have<br />

with our artists. It’s about us providing<br />

real value as a label. We’re<br />

able to figure out what the needs<br />

are, how best to promote something<br />

and connect bands with a fan base.<br />

We’re going to have good relationships<br />

with the artists if they’re happy.<br />

—ANDY KAUFMANN<br />

Starting Fresh:<br />

[Chapel Hill is] extremely accessible,<br />

beautiful, the people are fantastic<br />

and it’s got a great music scene.<br />

It’s a little more laidback, the cost<br />

of living is different… It provided us<br />

opportunities that we wouldn’t have<br />

necessarily had. Also, moving to a<br />

new place can be a good thing. You<br />

get rid of your safety nets. Being in<br />

Boston for 10 years, you kind of get<br />

set in some ways and become comfortable.<br />

Just taking yourself out of<br />

that can be really useful.<br />

A Stream of Content:<br />

There are very practical reasons to<br />

have so many records. One of them<br />

is that, because we have our own<br />

distribution company, it’s great to be<br />

putting out records on a consistent<br />

basis so that we always have something<br />

to sell. We’ve been putting<br />

out a record every two weeks; we<br />

haven’t always done that, but we try<br />

to. There’s something about working<br />

with a bunch of different artists that’s<br />

really appealing.<br />

Artistic Freedom:<br />

The most important thing is being<br />

extremely artist-focused and artistfriendly.<br />

We’re not the type of label<br />

that gets involved in the recording<br />

process. We don’t look for records<br />

while they’re being made. We get on<br />

board and we’re a go. Unless they<br />

absolutely want feedback, we’re going<br />

to take what they give us, put together<br />

a marketing plan and do our<br />

best to promote and sell it.<br />

How to Pitch:<br />

We try to sign one new-ish artist a<br />

year, two at the most. [Send us] an<br />

email with a link to something you’d<br />

like us to check out, a YouTube link<br />

or maybe some demos.<br />

The Label Grapevine:<br />

Develop your fan base, do as much<br />

as you can on your own and labels<br />

will come looking for you. That’s<br />

usually the way it works for us. It’s<br />

rarely from a band contacting us<br />

directly. It’s usually a manager who<br />

we have a relationship with or a record<br />

store guy, some relationship<br />

we have. That doesn’t mean don’t<br />

send your music directly to a label.<br />

If there’s something you’re proud of<br />

and want to share, do it. Don’t send<br />

a ton of stuff, though. Send something<br />

focused that you think will get<br />

your point across. You don’t want to<br />

give the full-blown picture. You want<br />

to create a bit of mystery and make<br />

people want to dive in on their own.<br />

The Indie Advantage:<br />

We have to shape ourselves to maximize<br />

every revenue source that’s<br />

out there. Nobody’s better at doing<br />

that than independent labels. We’re<br />

small and nimble. We can react well<br />

to changes in the marketplace and<br />

serve the customer better than anybody<br />

else. That’s what independents<br />

are about—finding the best music<br />

out there and making sure they’re<br />

serving the customers’ needs.<br />

22 September 2012 www.musicconnection.com

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