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Nibatabikora igetero kizava i Burundi kizaba gikaze, kurindira ko amahanga yemera ku... 

kugobokana intwaro Abahutu b’i Burundi ni ugukererwa kuko Abatutsi bazaba bamaze 

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kwisuganya. Icyo kinyamakuru Ijambo rero kiravuga ngo mu byo ..mu byakorwa byihutirwa, ngo 

HABYARIMANA Perezida wa Repubilika akwiye kugaba igitero gikozwe n’ingabo z’u Rwanda 

zikagenda ziyita Palipehutu. Ikindicyo kinyamakttm Ijambo kivuga ngo eyakorwa buri 

Munyarwanda wese agomba kumva ko amasezerano ya Arusha yahagaze, guha Inyenzi 

n’abazikomokaho ngo ikawa iyo uyitemye ntihatora icunga bityo n’Inyenzi zikaba zarabyaye 

izindi, ngo rero guha Abatutsi mirongo ine ku ijana by’ingabo byarangiranye n’umugambi wabo 

wo guhirika ubutegetsi bw’Abahutu .Ijambo rirakomeza rivuga riti, buri Munyarwanda 

w’Umuhutu asabwe gutanga umusanzu, uzi imbundakambuka, utayizi akayiga ,udashoboye 

agatanga amafaranga yo kugura imbunda n’amasasu.Icyo ni ikinyamakura Ijambo ni ko cyanditse 

mu nomero yacyo mirongo ita..ee..mirongo itandatu na rimwe yasohotse uyu munsi. 

Amakuru ee..e! Haro..itangazo ry’ubuyobozi bw’ikinyamakuru cy’i Butare cyitwa "ECHOS DU 

SUD SHISHOZA"cyo kiramenyesha abagikunda bose ko giheranye ibitekerezo mu icapiro, 

eee..ngo barasaba abagiraneza kugifasha. 

Ayo niyo makuru nari mbafitiye muri kano kanya ndakomeza mbashakira ayandi uko amasaha 

agenda yicuma. 

(Musique) 

ORATEUR :NOHELI 

RTLM mu minota cumi n’itanu tuba dufite sa tatu z’ijoro hano I Kigali turacumva uwo muzika, 

kandi uragera saa yine tukiwumva twumva n’amakuru nk’uko Kantano amaze kuyabagezaho, 

kandi nabonandi nk’uko yabibabwiye yabibasezeranije ntataha atayabagejejeho.Ariko kandi 

dusabe abaduterefona, abaduterefona bajye baduterefona bamaze kumenya icyo bagiye kutubwira. 

Ail inkuru batugezaho ataribiparu bagiye kutugezaho.Kuko ibiparu bibabaje hein? Kuri Radio 

RTLM nk’uko mwabyumvise wenda bamwe barayishimiye abandirababaza, abo ibabaza rero, be 

kujya batubwira ngo ku mutsi ngo twemere ibi twemere ibi kandi tubivuge, 

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ku mutsi, ku mutsi ntabyo tuzavuga. Huum..ubwo ngubwo nk’abanterefonye bumve ko ku mutsi 

HITIMANA Noheli atazavuga ibyo bavuze kubera ko umunyamakuru aratekereza, aratekereza 

icyo bamubwiye akamanza yakinyuza mu kanwa kane gatanu, a... akisubiramo agasubiramo 

noneho akareba ku inshuro ya karindwi akibaza ibibazo bine: Qui? Où? Quand? Pourquoi? Et 

comment? Ni ha bitanu d’ailleurs. HeinTIyo amaze kwibaza ibyo bibazo bitanu ko byuzuye mu 

ivanjiri y’umunyamakum, iyo iyo vanjiri imaze kuzuraru..a..aratangira akavuga inkum umuntu 

uz...uza ambwirati Noheli vuga ibi, mazi qui ?Uwo nguwo.Où? Aho ngaho.Quand? Igihe 

byabereye. Pourquoi? Kuki byabaye. Et comment? Uko byagenze. Noheli ma nkum rwose 

nshobora kuzavuga.Kudukinisha rero...bashaka kuducurika...oya.Oya, oya.Rwose ntabwo ad 

Radiyo y’umukino iyi Radiyo ni Radiyo ikomeye. 

Reka mbagezeho itangazo rya Leta y’u Bumndikorera mu buhungiro. 

Uhagarariye Leta y’u Bumndi yemewe ikorera mu buhungiro Nyakubahwa Ministre w’ubuzima 

Dogited MINANI Jean, yafunguye konti(compte)muri banki y’ubucuruzi:BCR, Banque 

Commerciale ya hano i Kigali, na Banki ya Kigali BK.Na BACAR. No mu mashami yazo amwe 

n’ amwe kugira ngo zishi..zishirweho amafaranga yo gushigikira iyo Leta.Umuntu wese, ndetse 

n’amashiramwe bifuza gushigikira iyo Leta y’u Burundi ikorera mu buhungiro bashobora kujya 

muri izo Banki bakamenye..bakamenyeshwa izo konti zafunguwe.Bikorewe i Kigali ku itariki ya 

makumyabiri na kane z’ukwezi kwa cumi muri mirongo icyenda na gatatu, na Ministre w’ubuzima 

Docteur MINANI Jean.Uhagarariye Leta y’u Bumndi. 

Turacyumva uyu muziki, kandi muracyumva Radiyo yanyu Radiyo RTLM. Mwese mwese nk’uko 

twabivuze mukomeze mugire umugoroba mwiza, mwumva n’uwo muziki. 

ORATEUR :MBIRIZI Philippe,Journaliste. 

..... derniers aussi s’est livré à des expéditions punitives de leurs voisins dès l’a..l’annonce de la 

nouvelle de...du coup d’État. La croix Rouget les autres organisations caritatives ne sont pas 

encore capables de porter leurs, d’apporter leursecours aux victimes de la guerre tant la 

situation est très éxplosive. L’appel du Premier Ministre Sylvii KINIGI apparamment n’a pas été 

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entendu car les militaires ne sont pas retoumés dans les casernes. Et on se demande comment la 

situation pourrait rede...re..redevenir, re...redevenir comme à la normal, car selon une certaine 

déclaration, dont certains noms politiques ,les points stratégiques étaient déjà libérés. L’offre 

d’amnistie a été rejeté, enfin l’offre d’amnistie demandée par les Putschistes a 6té rejeté par 

le..Sylvie KINIGI Le Premier Ministre et mëme le Gouvernement en exil. Le Comité de salut 

tenterait lU aurait tenté une certaine eeu..certaine négociation mais en vain, on apprend d’ailleurs 

que certains des Putschistes ont trouvé refuge dans..en Zambie. 

La France et la Belgique ont décidé de regoup...de regrouper leurs ressortissants. Les Nations 

Unies ont envoyé un émmissaire au Burundi du nom de James JONAS. 

Partais les demieres réactions sur la situation au Burundi celles de la Russie qui condamne les 

actes des Putschistes et de l’armée Burundaise. 

Yoweri MUSEVENI le Président Ougandais a aussi fait connaJtre sa position dans une conférence 

de presse, il est favorable à 1’ envoi d’une force Africaine, je dis bien Africaine au Burundi mais ne 

précise pas du tout si il condamne les Putschistes. 

Vous écoutez la Radio Télévision Libre le..Libre des Milles Collines, la Radio cent six. 

(musique 4 sec) 

ORATEUR :KANTANO 

...Radio yigenga RTLM, Radiyo yigenga Radiyo yanyu ivugira i Kigali. Amakuru atugezeho 

nonaha hum.., ntabwo ad ayo i Bunmdi ngiye kubabwira noneho ni ay’u..ni ay’u Rwanda. 

Burya koko umwotsi uva ku mufiro, ni kimwe n’ibihuha iyo bida¢uramye baba haricyo 

bitumtseho. Radiyo RTLM yigeze kuvuga ko, KANYARENGWE Perezida w’Inkotanyi 

bamwishe. 

Abantu barakomeza baduterefona baduterefona bagim gute? Bon, natwe turongera tubura 

gihamya tubura uko tubivuga.None inkuru itugezeho rero, i nkuru itugezeho nonaha, 

iratumenyesha ko KANYARENGWE ad mu bitaro muri Tartzaniya, mu bitaro byitwa 

HISlBANIYA HOSPITAL. 

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:RADIO RTLM 

:UWIMANA Rosine 

:Le24/08/1999 

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ORATEUR :Non Identifié 

........ ayo mafaranga yabo ntiyagiye, kuko ni amafaranga y’igihugu. Huum..numvise rero ngo 

Ambasaderi wa MOBUTU ngo yahisemo kubamo mu nzu akodesha ibihumbi magana arindwi mu 

kwezi. Magana-ri-ndwi !!!Magana 

arindwi y’amafaranga y’u Rwanda mu kwezi.Heiin .... ạaah! 

Hehein ,yewe hari uwavuze ngo n’Imana za meshanu,ariko se n’Imana za meshanu,kuba mu nzu 

ingana gutyo, mu gikene cyangwa, ............ yo kigura angahe? Do, ni ibintu bikomeye, ni uko 

utumabantu bagira ipfa cyangwa bagira ishyari, reka bajye barwaaaira imyanya wa mugani,baba 

bazi icyo bageraho,ese warwanira umwanya wo kugira ngo uzabe mu nzu y’ibihumbi magana 

arindwi ku kwe, zi ukagira ngo ni ugukina? Eee..ubwo rero ugasanga ahari ngo turwane, 

dukubitane,tumene amabisi, dupfumure amapine, tuharwanirira nyine, hein., barwanira icyo bazi. 

Bazi ko bazagenda bakaba mu nzu y’ibihumbi maganarindwi ku kwezi. Ibihumbi magana 

arindwi.Magana! Njye .............. ndabesha. Njye numvise bivuga mu G-ifaransa ariko..., numvise 

maganarindwi mu kwezi. Byantangaje kubona bya mirongo irindwi, kuri maganarindwi. 

Eee...niko babivuze kandi ni byo. Ni byo kuko amafaranga y’Abafaransa ntabwo bakinishwa, 

Paris, ni Paris ntabwo ariKigali, niko bimeze (inaudible),canke Tokyo, canke NewYork, 

(inaudible) isumba Paris mu Bufaransa, birakubye bîkubye kenshi,huum.Nshuti mwumva Radiyo, 

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bo muri Radiyo RTLM rero, turacaganira muri uyu mugoroba, na MBIRIZI aragaruka ail buze 

kongera abagezaho ibihari uwu mugoroba wose, na njye ikintu narangirijeho uko uuuhmvuye 

muri komini Tumba bimeze, kandi correspondant wanyu wa Radiyo RTLM,-hano- i Kigali. Avuye 

i Byumba, reka utubwire ukuntu asize, umujyi umeze muri Tumba.Aaa..abanze abibwire, nyuma 

akomeze. 

ORATEUR :Non identifié 

Correspondant wa Radiyo RTLM i Byumba. Mu rwego rwo gushira mu bikorwa, amasezerano 

y’ikinihira, ubu kuvaho amatora arangifiye muri Byumba Sous-Préfecture Kinihira, ubu 

impande zombi, Guverinoma y’u Rwanda na FPlL bashizeho commision igomba gukurikira uko 

ubutegetsi bwifashe mu baturage ha uburyo bukorera abaturage. Muri ako karere, none ku itariki 

ya makumyabiri z’ukwa cumi na rimwe mirongo icyenda na gatatu, hasuwe komini Tumba 

iyoborwa na Burugumesitere BACAMUMAKUBA Nicodeme, hasuwe segiteri Buramira na 

segiteri Mugenda, serire Mugenda ya mbere. Mu by’ukuri hose ubu ng’ubumutekano ni wose, 

nyuma ya ho abasore bavuka muri Tumba, bagiye muri FPR afiko bakaba baturuka muri Tumba 

muri segiteri Buramira baherutse, kuza muri segiteri ya bo ku itariki ya cumi z’ukwezi kwa 

karindwi mirongo icyenda na gatatu muriryo joro barasahura bitwaje za grenade. Barahateye, 

barasahura, bakaba bari bageze ngo kuri cumi ha babiri, nk’uko abaturage babisobanuraga. 

Abaturage rero bakaba bagifite impungenge z’uko bazagaruka. Ariko abari bail aho ngaho 

bahagarariye FPR, babijeje ko, bitazongera ko n’abo bashobora kalba baraje ku buryo 

bw’ububandi nk’uko abo baturage babo babavuga ko ail amabandi koko.Abaturage basaba FPR 

ko yabohereza bakagaruka muri komini yabo Tumba, bagashikirizwa ubutegetsi kuko icyo gihe 

bamwe barafashwe ariko .... di baje gutoroka.Ariko hakaba hari umugabo na none, uwo niwoufite 

umutekano muke yitwa MUHAYIMANA Emanweli, ngo uyobora urubyiruko rwa Tumba rujya 

muri FPR abaturage bamwe bakaba batamureba neza kuko n’ubu akibajyana. Ngo 

bajyanwa...bakagenda, abakobwa n’abahungu bavuga ko bagiye Icwigishwa, ibyo bagiye 

loMgishwa ubwo wenda bizamenyekana(inaudible) nyuma ntiturabimenya. 

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Muri segiteri Mugenda ho batite umutekano,uretse ikibazo kimwe bafite cy’abasor¢ b’ibyihare 

bigize amabandi ruharwa.Barimo abitwa,NGERAGEZE,SEMAPFA, na TURI..na 

TURIKUMAKAG...na TURI..~GA.Ujya asesa inama,yigeze gusesa inama y’abaturage 

yabaye muri ako karere.Ubundi ho umutekano wari mwiza. 


Eeee..muvandimwe, uhisemo ko tutakuvuga izina, eee...ni byiza kubera ko si ngobwa ko tujya 

tuvugamazina y’abantu bose baie kuri RTLM eyane cyane aba eoi¢espondant baeu. 

Narababwiye nti njyewe n’iyo ntashe, ndi kumwe ha Shadrak wanjye, ndi kumwe n’abandi uba 

ubona barnperekeje si njya mbavuga izina. Si byo ?Kubera ko muri iki gihe cy’intambara, 

intambara n’intambara, dufite byinshi tugomba kwi..k~taho,twarak°merets¢, twararashwe, 

twarahiye, twagize dute.Ariko se hariya muri Tumba uvuye umaze kuvuga utiii..FPR irahari k0ko 

barahari ? Baraza ? Koko barahari? 


Mu by’ukud abo mbabwira bahaza ni abo muri iyo commission, ishinzwe gukurikirana ibyo ako 

karere, ntabwo ad abaturage bo mud FPR batuye muri Tumba, uretse ko ngo abaturage bo bajya 

bababona batembera, ariko bagataha wenda, iyo baba ntawamenya. 


Eeee...n’ ukuber y’uko njye nakoze anketi(enqu6te), yakikira umuntu wo muri FPR i Muti~bire 

aho ngaho baba bambaye gisivire, kandi babakora akazi...mbe sensibilisation, iraeyakomeza~ 

ORATEUg :Non identifié 

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Iracyakomeza rwose.. 


Ya FPR? 


Ya FPR iracyakomeza ahubwo ubu ng’ubu,ni bwo bafite umwanya kuko babasha kuhatembera, 

impamvu ntuyizi ni uko amahoro amaze kugaruka? 

ORATEUR :Noël HITIMANA, Journaliste dela RTLM. 

Ee¢e .... 

nshuti Radiyo yanyu, Radiyo RTLM rero murumva correspondant waeu uvuye i Byum.ba 

atubwiye ukuntu bimeze ,byari bimeze muri Tumba, ubwo mu cyumweru azab ageze mu yand.i 

ma per.. mu yandi makomini muri Byumba. 

Dufite...dufite ......... kubera ko iyo ii..uhaye igitekerezo eyawe (inaudible) Radiyo.Radiyo ni ikiptu 

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gikorana n’abaturage.Ufite Radiyo udafite abantu bakurebera ngo bakubwire uko bimeze, ma i 

Radiyo yaba irimo ...... (inaudible)abakire baeu...ukuntu bazabigenza dufite abacoresiponda 

(correspondant) ii Buruseliîi(Bruxelles), muri Amerika i Washington, bafite (inaudible)...bakaba 

bazi ko atari ha Radiyo 

kujenjeka, ntabwo tujenjeka rero, reka dukomeze, mu kanya ni mu~nara 

akanya, ndabagezaho bya bitekerezo bya FPP-, ngo bireba u Rwanda, nko kuri page imwe, bu~i~ "’. 

munsi ndagenda mbagezaho ka page kamwe kamwe. 

...... haribwo hahumbya(inau~ble)zaNyamiramb°, 

Gikondo imodoka nyinetuzinyura h~uru 

.Eeee.... 

umunsi umwe mu by ejo ejo bundi ukuntu, RPF, FPR, ukuntu iriho yize 

Abanyarwanda.Yaratwize-Iradusesengura 

rwose iradusesenguraaaaa, babyigisha n’abantu ba~o 

muri za séminaires, muri za congrès bakoze, bati mumenye Abanyarwanda uko barn¢ze imb ,m’e 

muri zone O, muri 0 ,ni mu gihugu hagati.Ati ukuntu bamez¢. Bo bail muri zone One, bail rg, ! uri 

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zone ya mbere.Bobo rero bati ko muri iki gihugu hadmo udushyaka duto, twigenga nka PCR, 

PDI, n’utundi ntabwo dufitee, (inaudible) ibyo inyigisho byiza, byiza nyine bya FPR, 

twadukoreramo tukareka Abanyarwanda, ee..eee.., tukereka Abanyarwanda ukuri.Ukuri kwa 

FPR. Hein, ukuri kwa FPR? Mban~ ukwa mbere ad agafuni. Hein, ukwa mbere ubanz ad 

agafuniîi.Canke nii..he! Simbizi ,simbizi.Amashyaka 

MDR ha PL, alite amakimbirane maniniii.. 

mu buyobozi ibyo barabivuze, kandi mu kanya nababwiye nti ntibazongere kuvuga ngo Rukiga, i 

Nduga ibyo mu matora yabo berekana neza ku mugaragaro ko urwo Ruldga batarushaka, none !se .. 

ba ......... 

bamukubise ishoti mu mayeri, niba ad RAFlKI Yacinte hein, MBONAMPEKA 

baranukiniye amayida nyine bajya i Gisenyi apanal Hein..bakamukubita amayida, abandi bakavcga 

cya giti afite muri CND, yavanywe ......... i Gisenyi yongera i Byumba, Interahamwe bariya 

CDR baratubwira ngo mwati mwagiye he? Baradukubita, bati biriya binm bizaba ibihe kandi k0 

mutubujije no kugira umuntu twakwerekana? IIi...babakubiseho,bad trésorière.Trésorière si mt~ 

ishyaka mwakabyara mwe.Byanditse hehe se nyine, ee byanditse hehe muri sitafi(statut) ko, 

trésorière azabaho bamuhimbiye aho ngaho.Bacishaho noneho Umunyamhengerikazi, 

Abanyamhenge...nazame neza ako iwacu mu Ruhengeri, nanjye ndi Umunyamhengeri.Ko ngo~ mu 

Ruhengeri nsigaye ngenda kuvuga ngo umugore niwe userukiye abagabo?Ibyo bintu birakomeffe, 

sinzi ko atad byo, adko mu majyambere turimo, twe nti biratwinjiramo neza. Ndavugisha ukuri, 

twe nti biratwinjiramo neza, ngo bavuge ngo ......... I-Ie!! Hari uwo babesheye ngo yasoresheje : 

inkoko n’ild, ubwo murabizi uko byagenze.Oya turacyiterera imbere mu majyambere boye kujya 

batubritaliza (brutaliser), ngo batubeshere ngo Papa, ntibishoboka.Abo..abo mbwira 

barumva.Iii .... 

Abo muri FPR rero ngo icyo bashaka n’iki ng’iki.Gushyinga centre mu bihugu bizenguruka O, 

O ni igihugu cy’u Rwanda cyose.Bizarushya imikoranire ee n’abayi..., 

abay., n’ abayirimo. Ni 

ukuvugabo kuri Goma, Bukavu, Bujumbura, Mombasa, Mwanza, Dar-el-salam ha Arusha, 

Bruxelles,e! 

Nayo ngo, abadmo bail kuri gahunda.Bati dutangira programme ya mobilisation y’abagore 

n’urubyimko, mu gihugu cyose. Muri O.Cmkora,.Plus .... course, muri za centre twavuze, 

harugum. Hamaze gukorwa i Bukavu, i Bukavu barayikoze, imwe i Bujumbura barayikoze, 

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Bujumbura numéro 1, i Naïrobi barayikoze, Mombasa barayikoze ha Karagwe baraharangije. 

Muri ayo mashuri yabyaye Cadres, yabyaye nyine..ba Cadres barenze mirongo itanu na 

batanu.Bamwe mubo ... ụbu ng’ubu ee... bakorera mud zone ya gatatu. Zone ya gatam, muri 

U.Three.N’ukuvuga Bukavu, ni nk’uko twabivuze Bukavu, Bujumbura, NaÏrobi,Mombasa, 

Karagwe, n’i Burused.Bati aho ngaho aba cadres baho barahaH.Hatangiye irindi, muri One ijana 

na mirongo itanu na kane, one ni one..n’ahantu bari hariya nyine bafashe. Ariko inimero ijana 

mirongo itanu na kane ngo ni nka segitefi oyangwa sefire.Huum!Ba cadres bacu kwigisha 

umurongo wacu wa politiki, babinyujije mufi za mitingi (meetings)zikorwa n’amashyaka 

politiki baahi..bahisemo. Ein, ubu rero bafite nyine abantu bakora mu mashyaka baboherereje 

muri uru Rwanda bakorera mu mashyaka.Tujye tubimenya, kuki baravuga ngo batoye kanaka 

batora kanaka, nyamara ball ku Murindi tubareba, kumbe tukaba tuzigihe 

zigena...(inaudible)zigenda 

mu gieuku, iyo ziba zigenda mu gicuku tuba tuzibona, abajya gukora 

amanama, mwakabyara mwe, ibyo nsaba Imana ni kimwe ntibizatufike. Ntibizaturike, n’icyo 

mbwiye Imana. Kiraturika. Ntibizatudke rwose, bariya ha Dogitefi,na bariya 

Injeniyeri(Ingénieur) rwose, n’abana babo n’ababyeyi n’abavandimwe n’inoEuti rwose njye 

ndabasabira. Ndabasabira kubera ko aH abantu, umugati uratutuma, uratutumba, ukatutumba, iyo 

batawufiye,uratudka.Huum! 

Iyo uraturika rwose, bazatubabarire rwose, ..... 

wiyummbya bawufiye, eee!Maze rero aba cadres ba¢u,bagomba kwigisha umurongo wacu wa 

politiki, bawunyujije mufi za meetings zikotwa n’amashyaka 

politiki bahaye ishema. 

Huuum!Bakangura abantu,bagashing...bakangura 

bagashinga za serire, ubu hall iziringa 

ijana 

mirongo inani. Mufiki gihugu. E!! FPR, ubwo yo yiyandikira ko ifite ama sefire arenga 

ijana na mirongo inani.Abanyamuryango baracyad bake mufi One Three. One Three 

abanyamuryango baracyari bake, One Three nyine uko nababwiraga za haHya za Bujumbura, za 

Bukavu, za Goma, za Mombasa ,za Naïrobi, za Burused, ati mukomeze kurek~ta(recruter) 

Ingorane ziriho mufiyo mobilisation, muriyo zero three hien’ugutumaho utabasha kwiherera, 

kutabasha kwiherera.Iii..ingorane, 

ntubasha kwiherera iyo ituma ibikorwa bidakurikiranwa neza, 

nti tumenye cadre, umuryango muri msange uko byifashe.Cadre ababa mu muryango hafi ya bose 

ni Abatutsi.iti ika iadri ya wu muryango hafi ya bose ni Abatutsi ntabwo tubasha kuyobora, 

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abatadushyigikiye kuko benshi ad FANATIQUE. N’abo Batutsi barimo, mwitwaje ubututsi gusa 

no kurya .... (inaudible) 

Leta ihora ishakisha Inkotanyi, cyangwa ibyitso byazo, ati n’iyo ngorane dufite twebwe abo muri 

RPF:FPR. Kubera ko Leta y’u Rwanda ihora ibashaka ibashaka, ishakisha Inkotanyi be n’ibyitso 

byazo.Huum!Iyo ni purpose,plus,plus, m,one,two,look teachers,huum!Sibyo se? Humm! 

Mobilisation muri one ha two, Jyemusi, Jyemusi(James) ....... 

gutinya...badutinyaga kubera 

intambara n’Abaganda.Nibyo mugomba kwitaho.Gusobanura imigabo n’imigambi ya RPF, 

gushyinga umuryango, kwigisha politiki y’umuryango.Kugira 

tugere kuri iyo nteko,t 

wakoreshaga, izi stratégies zikurikira.Ibyo bakoresheje rero n’ibi ngibi.Kugeza ubu mbibabwire, 

bakoresheje Radio Muhabura. Radio(in english).Bakorsheje Traets ....(inaudible), 

n’inzandiko 

umanika hose. Meetings.Akazi ko gukoresha za meetings, imikino.Eeein, ubwo nibuka nyine, 

Abakombozi bajya gukina ha FPR, ee!Yari amayeri nyine(lnaudible) gukina, barabyandika mufi 

raporo(raport).Kwigisha abanm, barigisha rwose.Gukoresha aba cadres, b’abasivire, 

b’abasirikare.Gushinga inzego z’umuryango, gushinga inzego z’unlbyiriko,econornic activity, 

cyane guhinga sinzi aho bahinga, ubwo bafite aho bahinga ababaye muri Uganda sumbizi. 

Kwigisha izindi nyigisho z’ingira kamaro nk’ubuvuzi.Ingorane .Ingorane batite muri FPR. 

Mubyumve tubimenye, muri FPR abantu baraeyashonje.Ieya mbere, Parti MDR, 

bail ....(inaudible)...bameranye 

nabi Leta y’u Rwanda n’abasirikare b’u Rwanda, babuza abaturage 

kujya gufatamaposho.Hee! Bababuza iby’amaposho cyangwa bababuza kuba .... mwo kimwei 

aha! .... 

Twitegurira dute akazi ka mobilsation muri O?Mu Rwanda hose.Abanyamuryango bacu, bad~ 

hanze.Abanyamuryango baeu bail hanze bamenye ibi.Tugomba kongera,umurego wo gukangura 

abanyamuryango bacu bari hanze, tubategurira akazi gakomeye, tuzahura n’ako, ni tugera muri, 

mu gihugu, muri O. 

Kubera ko, igihe cy’intambara cyashize, imbere y’iyîndi mirimo ni ugushaka abatabazi ï 

n’amafaranga, no kwigishabanyamuryango,eee..byasubye inyuma.Ubu mgomba guhagumkira 

Abiba se? Mu ngendo zinyuranye, abanyonzi 

RPF(arakorora),bakunze, bajye bibuka guhoea 

n’Abanyamuryango bo gice,...bakabakangurira ibibazo bya poliki bidutegereje mu gihugu, muri 

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O.Inzêgo z’umuryango zigomba guhabwa agaciro kazo ntihakagire, commissions (in english) 

cyangwa directore .... directries(in english)isimbuka urwego runaka zifashisha emergency nk’uko 

bituma abantu basanga,basanga gukorera mu nzego bitari ngombwa, ibikaba baca intege 

Abanyamuryango.Banyamuryango bakwiriye gukora bumva ko umuryango ari uwabo, aribo 

ushingiyeho.Kwigisha Abanyamuryango 

ntara imikorere y’umuryango, ntibikwiye guharirwa 

PMM.Ubuyobozi bwose bugomba kugeza gahunda yabwo mu nzego zo hasi. 

Urugero:"Protection" yajya ikora imishinga ku rwego rw’intara, .... igashira centre yayo mu karere 

etc...Ariko iteka Abanyamuryango 

turenge bagasobanurirwa icyo gikorwa, kugira ngo 

bakunde gushyigikira, abayobozi bihatire kugera hasi mu turenge."Cells":cellules,bameny 

ni 

naho Abanyamuryango babo bari. Murumva rero baracengeza.Abayobozi .lbyo abayobozi rero ni 

birebireee .... had ..one ..... zero, muriki gihe tutarajya muri zero three, zero three n’ukuvuga hano 

hafi mu bihugu bidukikije.Twaba tuyitegura muri ubu buryo.Gutumira abantu bo muri zero three 

muri political and military sehool.Huum!Barangiza bagategereza kuzakora mobilisation mu gihugu 

imbere intarnbara irangiye.Gutegura abantu bo muri zero three, bakajya i Bukavu Bujumbura, 

Naïrobi, Goma, n’ahandi bakigishwa, barangiza bagasubira iwabo. Ni birebire. 

Gushakisha uko politicaly school yajya ibera muri..mu gihugu imbere.Gushinga amashuri hariya 

muri zone Tempo, kugenda kwigisha abo hanze. Ibi byakorwa bite?Twakoresha abantu dushaka 

dukorana, twakoresha umubano dufitanye n’amashyaka amwe.Hein.Ariko ibi by’arnashyaka 

mwakabyara mwe .Birasekeje kandi abakuru b’amashyaka, n’abayadmo, n’abagenda 

bavugirizamo indurubu bari kumva RTLM.Mwababariye iki gihugu, mukamenya ko ad igihugu 

cyanyu.Mukakibabadra.Mwakibabariye 

koko tukakibarira.Hein, twibabariye.Hiin, ngo 

twak~banda, i Butare na Kigali, kuko ni ho inzangano z’amoko ari nkeya.Gushaka aba cadres 

muri zero three, badufasha lc~gisha muri zero three.Kwigisha abantu bo muri zero twoo,eee! 

Hadya nyine, eee..nkatera nk’umurwano wo gushinga inzengo z’umuryango wabo.Gukoreshà za 

meetings hariya nyine, muri zone Tempo, duuuhamagaramo abantu bo hanze nyine b’i Bugande 

hirya no hino.Gutangira, economic groups, hum muri zone tempo,barakomeza ukuntu ra bazakora 

mobilisation bageze mu gihugu. 

Tuzakora gute?Kubaka inzego, cee, ee..tuzatangira udushuli duto ahantu hose, tuhagire cadres, 

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tuzatangira discussions groups, groupes de discussions, tuzakoresha 

meetings, bazakoresha 

Radiyo, bimwe bakurura, video,. .... trainings, professions, associations, relations, organisations, 

personnal and private business,compains,eee n’ibindi byabafasha gukora mobilisation. Tuzashiraho 

umuryango udaharanira inyungu, ukora imishyinga yo kuzamura imibereho y’abaturage- Hum, 

tuzakora mu mashyirahamwe y’abakozi, Hum! Bazigisha hose da!Mu ma dini n’amashuli, 

Abanyamuryango bacu babishoboye mu ma sociétés akorera mu byaro agafasha Rubanda.Urugero 

:Kubagurira imyaka, kuganya umyanya ushirwamo ibikorwa byo gu.hinga.Gusarura, gutunganya 

ibyasaruwe.Tuzakora n’ibindi byose byadufasha guhuzabantu n’ibï..nk’imikino n’ibindi.Hum, 

hum, hum!Ububasha bwa RPF, FPR bwo gukorera mu butegetsi binyuze mu matora nyuma 

y’amezi makumyabiri y’Inzibacyuho. Byose tuzaba twabirangije, Komite yasanze nta bundi buryo 

FPR yazashora gushira gahunda yayo mu bikorwa itari muri Leta. Komite kandi yasanze ko RPF, 

FPR ifite ububasha bwo gutsinda amatora ishyizeho umwete wo gukora mobilisation.Ibyo mu 

mezi makumyabiri y’Inzibaeyuho. 

Ibyo byose barabibaze.I ngamba :"Stratégies".Gushinga secteurs za RPF kuva kuri serire, guhera 

hejuru buri Stratégie ifite akamaro k’uko cadres bacu bamenye...babi..barabimenyereye 

abayobozi 

bagera, abayobozi begerabaturage, byorosha gukora gahunda y’umuryango n’imizamukire yabo 

muri rusange. Ibindi byakorwa n’abacadres benshi, ariko dushobora no gukorisha RPA, cadres, 

meetings, political roles.Gukoresha ibikorwa by’ingabo zacu, cee, bagomba gukoresha ibikorwa 

by’ingabo zabo.Ntabwo babatezukaho ngo muzavanga, muzavanga. Hein, gukoresha ibikorwa 

by’ingabo zaeu, nko mu byerekeye, gushor..ugushora amajyambere y’ibyaro. Mass média, cultural 

troups, sports clubs, n’ibindi...seminaries, publics lect..lecturis, discussions clubs, etc... 

Gufata imyanya mu butegetsi bw’igihugu.He! Nabyo barabyiyemeje gufata imyanya mu butegetsi 

bw’igihugu, local Gouve..Gouvernment.lngaga y’urubyiruk° n’abategarugod:youth and women 

organisation.Girls publicompanies,political schools n’ibindi.Uko RPF izamera mu gihe 

kizaza.Byose barabiteganije, gahunda y’ibikorwa.Reba graphic ku rupapuro rwa nyuma nyine.Mu 

gihe cyo kwitegura hazabaho amashuri makuru y’umuryango, amashuri yigisha. Abasubiayo 

cyane cyane, azabera i Bukavu, Goma, Buja, Naïrobi na Mombasa hagati.Hazaba na none 

amashuri asanzwe na yo ikigoro..nayo ikigoroba. Eee! Bazaba bakoresha amashuri asanzwe ha yo 


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ikigoroba. Mu ntara za B,B,C azakora kubera impamvu z’amikoro cyangwa z’akazi.Hari 

abatazashora kuza mw’ishufi rikuru. Hazabamashufi muri za zero two amwe agamije kubona 

cadres muri ba zero three.Hazaba 

meetings muri zero two.lnzego z’umuryango 

zizaba..zizubakwa muri D,D two.Eee..muri zero three kugeza muryango 

byaro.Gushaka muri 

cadres bakorera muri zero, mu Rwanda nyine, aba lu11 time.Hum! Political schools, muri zero 

thr¢e.Seminaries, n’abayobozi bo mu mwikorere y, inyigisho.Kwereka abanyamuryango intambara 

yo gutsinda amatora. Ngo bayibonere ibyikeneye. AI) n’abakozimari mu...byatanga urugero.Igihe 

cy’]nzibacyuho. Inzibacyuho izagendamu byiciro bine. Iby’Inzibacyuho.Igihe cyo kwitegura 

kugenda, amezi atatu. Igihe cyo lc~tegura kugenda bava nyine hariya bari.Bazitegura amezi atatu. 

Igihe cyo kwitegura umurinzi.Amezi atanu. Hum! Mubyumve neza. Igihe cyo kwitegura 

kugenda. Bo baritegura amezi atatu. Igihe cyo kwitegura umurinzi amezi atanu. Igihe cyo 

gukomeza inyigisho, kuko bagomba k~ga, bakiga rwose by’imazhna amezi atanu. Igihe cyo 

ukubaka inzego nkuru z’umuryango no gukora congr6s amezi ane. Murabyumva?I gihe cyo 

kwiyamamaza ,arnatora. Baziyamamaza mu matora bo, ubwabo bazakora amezi atanu bashakisha 

mu gihugu nyine, bitegurira amatora. Amezi atanu. Ngaho da !! Abafite amashyaka muri kumva7 

Nizeye ko mwumva. 

Mugihe eyo kwitegurira kugenda rero, hazakorwa ibi bikurikira. 

Komite yita ku ngamba :stratégies, ikiga nezaho tugiye gukoreraBakahiga umusozi n’akarenge, 

inzira n’umuhanda, akagezi n’umugezi, hum! Komite yo gushaka amafaranga na yo igomba 

kubaho.Komite yo gutanga gahunda y,ibikorwa:"Planification".Gushaka 

ibikenewe : Logtsttcs . 

He! Ntabwo bazapfa gusa kuza bagenda ku kukibando nka kera.Eee .... ntabwo ail agakoni. 

Bazaza ba...bafite ibya ngombwa.Kwegeranya cadre bahagije mu kubahugura. Imidmo ya 

mobilisation izakomeza, n’amashuri azakomeza cyane cyane muri zone ya kabiri ha bwo ni muri 

zone tempo.Izo conditions (in english), conditions. Zaba ziteye zite? Izo rugira n’izihe? Bail 

nama izo twakorera.Abaturage baratwumva.Abaturage baratwumva, bafite contradictions nini 

kandi bahuje.Ati twihariye urubuga. Bati aha turi hano, aha tuil hano, iyo turenze ikinihira 

tukagenda hafi nu Bugande, cyangwa ababa barenze ku Murindi.Bati aho tuhafite 

umbuga.Tubimenye.Bati ariko iyo tuza mu gihugu he..urwo rubuga nyine ntaruzaba rukihari. 

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N’ukwiga amayira.Ibikorwa byacu ntacyo byabangam...byabangamiraho Leta.Hum, Leta se ijya 

ibabona.Naho md. Ati twîmenye twunguwe expérience n’izindi...(inaudible) mu buryo 

twakoraga.Tukaba twizeye gutsinda. Gukorera mu rwihisho. Niho twakoreraga.Gukorera kw’isi 

yose niho twakoreraga.Amikoro mie akazi ad kenshi ati murabizi.Ubumenyi buke muri..mu 

gihugu. Murabizi ko tutazi, igihugu, neza uko kimeze.royo byose ni .... bariregura.Kandi koko ni 

byo none se igihugu bakizi bate? Politiki za kera zateraga impungenge abantu, bigatuma 

batitabira politiki.Ati mubimenye.Kugira ngo abantu bitabire politiki bizatugora.Kutumvikana 

neza k’umurongo wacu wa politiki bitewe n’umuryango watangiye wiganje mu gice kimwe 

cy’Abanyarwanda. Ntabwo ndi bubimenye. Iyo bandika y’uko, higanje ubwoko bumwe 

bw’Abatutsi.Ubw’Abahutu akabari bukeya, Kanyar¢ngwe akabagatoye. Nabyo bakabyandika, 

ntabyo banditse ariko ni njye ukiyongereyeho.Hum!Eee .... Icyo tugiyemo rero tugiye mu gihugu 

gikora gite? Gikorera ku mugaragaro.Tugiye 

gihugu gikorera ku mugaragaro expérience 

ikiyongera.Buri munsi,ati Habyarimana yongera ibitekerezo.Aratugoye.Ati 

afite icyo bita 

(Inaudible) appeal. Hum...yaratsinze, atsinda henshi eee ati kumwugaza birakomeye.Hein!Ibi 

barabyize..Ehe!Bazi ubwenge.Abanyarwanda benshi bazaba.., b¢geranye. 

Hum, information ihita nyine, umuntu aba.. abamenya nyine aho bageze. Nk’uko tuzi Inkotanyi 

zose ziba i Kigali .Ntawutazizi! Uwutazizi se ni nde ?Bakomejoho gato, bose, umuntu yacakira 

uwo ashaka.Ko umuntu aba azi naho araye se?Hum!Bazitondel Umuntu aba abazi. Turabazi, 

turabazi, nta bwoba rwose ha busa .Na busa.Turabazi.Turabazi. 

Kugirabantu muri Leta ntibizatworohera.HumCyangwa kugirabantu muri Leta 

mibizatworohereze adko rero ntibishoboka. 

Mobilisation niyo izaba igikorwa gikuru kizahabwa ibya ngombwa. Hum. Nibyo bifuza.Ati 

nitugera mu Rwanda abantu bazatwishisha nibo babyiyandikiye. Bati abantu bazatwishisha. Aho 

gukorera hazatubara habi, kandi mu banzi.Tuzaba duhatana n’andi mashyaka. Murumva rero ko 

ho ibyabo babyiteguriye rwose, si nkomeza kubera ko MBILIZI Philipe nawe afite ibyo ashaka 

kuvuga, nzakomeza ejo kuri page ya cumi na kabira Nzareba ukuntu, naa.., byose 

nabibagezaho.Byari kuri page ya cumi ha kane. Mwumve uko Inkotanyi, bamwe babita Inyenzi- 

Inkotanyi, abandi bakabita Inyenzi gusaç ho badyizi bazi n’ii gihugu, niba natwe twiyizi, nk’iyi 

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Etude sociologique bakoze. Ibi n’ibya sociologie uwabibigiye n’umuhanga, none natwe md 

kubyiga ntibyaba.Eee..iyo se, inkuba zeshanye habyara ild?Habyara imirabyo cyangwa 

inkuba ....... twumve icyo zizabyara, tuzaba tubireba, Imana n’iyo iriba ...... 

(musique 25sec) 

ORATEUR :Kantano HABIMANA, Journaliliste de la RTLM. 

..... Inkotanyi, abaa..abateye u Rwanda, abasirikare b’Abagande bateye Urwanda mu kwezi kwa 

kabiri, itariki munani z’ukwa kabiri, mwiyumviye nako murabizi neza y’uko, barabibonye bo 

y’uko cee ... ṃbese MUSEVENI yohereje, yohereje Bataillons, Bataillons eshatu, Bataillons 

eshatu, cyangwa se ,menyad division yose.Ubwo rero nyine baraje, bararwana barasunika 

Inkotanyi basiga bazihaye..zone tempo, barigendera. Abo ngabo babashize kuri Liste 

y’ abadémobilisé. Hein, babashize kuri liste y’abadémobilisés, amafaranga nyine yafatiye ...... 

Uganda. Menya ko umuntu démobilisé .....(inaudible) 

ni nko gukorera kuri liste gusa, si umuntu 

babanza ngo barebe, bati Kantano hita hano tubanze tukurebe eka dat bazatanga liste gusa, 

y’abantu (Inaudible) démobilisation, hasigaye ba (Inaudible) ,ba Byarugaba, 

Byaruhanga.Abo 

bose n’uko noneho bashire kuri liste rero,babohereze ,ail uwari caporal,..uwari ..... 

Hano rero i Kigali naho hari agakuru gasekeje, hari agakuru gasekeje n’uko hari abasirikare, 

hehe..b’Abanyarwanda, batangiye kurya mu mafaranga ya démobilisation. Mumbwire namwe. Nta 

wuzi niba azaboneka, ariko abantu batangiye gufatamo arnadeni.Ehe!N’uko!Umuntu wajya 

kumwishuza ati icyokora ati menya nzaba démobilisé,reka,mzaba tureba.Turihe amafaranga ibyo 

babyita kurya imbogo imbere yo (inaudible), ushobora no kuyegera ikakurya (inaudible). 

rero abarya imyenda mumenye ...... 

aya 

(FIN DE LA FACE A) 

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FACE B 


Murumva RTLM, Radiyo yanyu, Radiyo yigenga.Ubu dufite saa moya n’iminota mirongo itatu 

n’umwe muri studio zaeu, nagira ngo none ho mbagezeho amakum nahoze mbategurîra. 

Inkotanyi makumyabira n’esheshatatu zasesekaye hano i Kigali uwu munsi, zikaba ziri muri Hôtel 

Méridien Umubano. Zikaba zazanywe no guhitamo aho abategetsi 

FPIL bazajya muri 

Guverinoma y’Inzibacyuho yaguye, na ya Bataillon y’Inkotanyi maganatandatu zizajya hano mu 

mujyi wa Kigali. 

Twibutse ko Inkotanyi zashakaga kuba muri CND, Camp Kacyim, Camp Kimihumra na Camp 

Kigali. Amakum atugeraho rero, aratubwira ko abategetsi 

FPR bashobora kuzaba, 

eeu..bashobora kuzaba koko muri CND, muri iriya Hôtel irimo yitwa, Hôtel Amajyambere, none 

ho ya Bataillon y’Inkotanyi maganatandatu zikaba hafi aho.Bamwe bakavuga muri Camp 

Kami.Igituma umuntu yakeka ko koko lnkotanyi zizaba muri Hôtel Amajyambere ni uko mu ma 

saa kumi uyu munsi, Ministre GASANAnastase ushinzwe, w’ububanyi n’amahanga.Abak°zi be 

barnubonye ashyashyana muti Minisiteri, ashakabantu bo kumuherekeza ngo ajye kugenzura 

ibyo yise mu gifaransa:"lnspecter".Kugenzura 

rero CND ukagira ngo ntiyari asanzwe 

ayizi.Abagiye muri CND batubwiye ko bahabonye lnkotanyi cumi n’ebyiri n’abasirikare 

Minuar 

barimo kuhasura.Bakatubwira ko kandi babonaga Inkotanyi z’amarere zishimishijwe, 

zishimishijwe, no kuzifatira Inteko ishinga amategeko bitazigoye, bizinyu..bizinyujije gusa mu 

nzira y’amayeri.Twash°b°ye rero kuganira kuri telephone n’abanm bamwe ha bamwe, tubabaza 

icyo batekereza kubyerekeye uko gushyira Inkotanyi muri CND, mwumve uwo twabonye 

mbere.Madamu Mutwe 

...... oui ni Madame MUTWE? Madamu MUTWE ngize Imana nkubonye kuri terefone.Wari kuri 

CND nyuma ya saa sita ubona Inkotanyi ziyisura zisa n’iziyirambagiza, ndetse hari uwambwiye ko 

zasaga ni izabengurutse.Kubwawe gutuzabasirikare b’lnkotanyi, ba FPR mu nteko ishinga 

amategeko rwagati urumva nta mpungenge biguteye? 


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ORATEUR :Madame MUTWE 

(Inaudible 20 sec) .... muri CND muririya ngoro y’inama y’igihugu (ïnaudible) ishinga 

amategeko.Kuri njyewe ku giti eyanjye ma mpungenge byantera ariko...kuko ubimbajije wenda 

mu rwego rw’abanyamakuru kugira ngo umenye amakuru kandi abanyamakuru inshingano dufite 

ni uguharanira Démocratie no guteza imbere icyatuma ishirwa mu gaciro. Eee, njyewe kuri urwo 

rwego rero njye bintera impungenge zikomeye, kuko ubundi ntabwo., ntaho bagomba guhurira 

n’ibimenyetso bishimangira démocratie,ni nk’uko abasirukare batagomba gushyigikira démocratie, 

ariko nibwira ko ...... mu nama nshinga mategeko ni ukunyurana n’umuco, twagombye kubatoza 

wo kubaha ibimenyetso bya démocratie.Ni aho bintereye impungenge. Ikindi tumenyereye ko muri 

démocratie abateye intambwe imbere yacu muri yo babitubwira kandi nkabona ni uko binakwiye, 

abasirikaa’e bagomba kuba mu bigo by’abasirikare, abasirikare bagomba kuba muri za casernes 

ahagenywe.Wenda ndumva ko, kubera Inkotanyi zije batari baziteguye ndabona harimo ikintu cyo 

guu..cyo guhutaguza ibintu wenda ntibari babyitegiye neza bashobora kuba bavuze bati, tubatuze 

muri iriya ngoro y’inama y’igihugu izashinga amategeko mbona ko atari uburyo bwiza ntabwo 

byaba eeu..uburyo bwiza kuko iriya teko ..... n mgo o ishingirwarno amategeko itagomba 

kuvogerwa, n’ingoro twese twatinyaga, ndetse abenshi ntitwa...(inaudible)bataturebye 

urutsure 

rwa ndembo, none ho kumva ko abantu eeu...b’abasirikare bagiye kuvogera ingoro y’igihugu 

bakayicumbikamo, njye ndumva bintera impungenge.Usibye ko eeu..numva ngo ni ihoteri harimo 

ihoteri wenda bagiye mw’ihoteri byaba bi..tangiye gusa n’ ibinoze ariko ni hafi cyane ya ho 

bashingira amategeko, njye biracanteye ubwoba, eeu...nkurikije ibyagiye biraba mu mateka 

y’ibihugu bimwe na bimwe .... na démocratie, ibuka muri Togo igihe abasirikare bihererana 

Abaministres n’Abashingamategek° bakabagota, simvuga ko FPR izajya kugota 

Abashingamategeko, ariko eee..numva bitagamye cyane, bashobora n’ukubashakira ahandi, hail 

amahoteri... 

ORATEUR :Journaliste de la RTLM. 

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Iii...uti barashob...bashobora kubashakira ahandi, ndumva Guverinoma y’u Rwanda hari ahantu 

yari yabateganirije, njye hari uwari yambwiye ngo baba i Kami, ariko ngira ngo wigeze kumva 

RTLM imaze gutangaza ko Inkotanyi zifuza kuba muri CND, zifuza kuba muri Camp Kacyiru, 

muri Camp yo ku Kimihurura no muri Camp Kigali ko abantu babaye nk’abakubitwa 

n’inkuba.Ubundi CND nta handi wa mugani babona babatuza kandi bikanyura mu nzira 

y’umucyo? 


Ngo nako n’Inkotanyi zarî zifuza kuri Méridien, ninaho heza ...Hôtel des Milles collines, hari 

Hôtel des Diplomates, H6tel Kiyovu n’amahoteli aryoshye ....... 

Njye nibaza impamvu zifuje CND, kuri njye harimo eeu..icyo twita mu gifaransa symbole, ubundi 

inama ishyinga amategeko ingoro y’inama ishyinga amategeko, eett...n’ikimenyetso cy’u, 

cy’u..cy’ ubusugire bw’igihugu.Kugira ngo rero umuntu arwanaga aze atahasaba icumbi 

..... (inaudible) ni nko kukubwiraho gatoya, nagutsinzeho gatoya nara .......... (inaudible). 

Muzi ko ubusugire iki gihe bwari buhagarariwe na Président wa Repubulika, njye ndareba ibintu 

birebesha amaso ya kure? Ku italiki ya cumi n’icyenda z’uku kwezJ mandat ya Président wa 

Repubulika wari wubahirije ubusugire bw’igihugu yararangiye ariko buza gusubukurwa 

n’amasezerano ya Arusha. Ni ukuvuga rero ko ayo masezerano y~L Arusha na yo nk’uko Perezida 

wa Repubulika yari ahagariye ubusugire bw’igihugu.Ayo masezerano ya Arusha yose mu ngiro ya 

yo, mw’isura eeu yayo yose agomba kubahiriza ubusugire bw’igihugu. Nkabona rero ko kuvogera 

inama izashyingirwamo amategeko hazamo induru n’ibintu tutazi nka za ambitions z’abasiikare, 

induru z ~" lmbund a n’amasasu ni nko kugitumbya, ni nko gutumbya 

ki.. ki yo ngoro 

agaciro 

igatumbya n’agaciro k’abazayikoreramo njye niko mbibona, eeu..usibye ko njye nta kintu bya 

byantwara abantu bose bagiye kuryama mw’ihoteri ya..y’iriya CND ari abadepite. Niba ad 

abadepite, njye nta kibazo mbona n’ubundi bari barayubatse kugira ngo ngo abadepite 


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bazayituremo, nib ail abadepite nta mpangano njye mbona, niba ari abasirikare ndazibonamo ni 

bajye muri caserne, cyangwa niba zidahari babahe amahoted. Ikindi, ikindi kibazo na nagomba 

kubirebesha amaso ya kure na none, ni uko Guverinoma y’u Rwanda isa iteka, isa n’aho isubira 

inyuma. Niyewe ndumva mu minsi yashize, nabisomye mu kinyamakuru mpagarariye Jeune 

Afrique, har itangazo mpuruza mahanga rivuga ngo iriya hoteli ya..y’inama y’igihugu ishinga 

amategeko ngo ba..ngo bahuruje abanyemari yo kuyikodesha, ngo Guverinoma yabikoze ejo n’iyo 

yaba iri gusubira inyuma nk’umuzi, ivuga noneho uyu munsi na noneho itakodeshweje ibaye 

eeu..eeu ingoro y’abasirikare 

FPR ,njye ndumva bitumvikana neza ...... symbole ya souveraineté, 

symboleeu.. y ubutegetm bw lgihugu kubivogera cyane ni nka coup d’Etat gatoya umuntu 

abaatangiye kutota .......... iyo ndeba ............ 

ORATE[YR :Non Identifié 

(Inaudible) 


(PASSAGE INAUDIBLE). 


Eeeu..murakoze Madame MUTWE ubwo twumvise igitekerezo cyawe ubwo turabaza n’abandi 

twumve icyo babitekerezaho. 


(Passage inaudible) 

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ORATEUR :Non Identfié 

Ye murakoze. 


Yego nawe urakoze uramuke. 


Muramuke. 


Phocas, amakuru atugeraho atumka kuri CND aratubwira ko hageze Inkotanyi cumi n’ebyiri 

zisura iyo CND zisa n’iziyambagiza ,ndetse bakatubwira ko basa n"abayikunze, twagira ngo rero 

tukubaze umuturage usheshanguhe uzi ubwenge,tukubaze niba nta mpungenge ufite ko Inkotanyi 

zatura mu nteko ishingamategeko rwagati utubwire niba koko wamva ntacyo bitwaye, cyangwa 

har icyo bitwaye.Phocas. 

ORATEUR :Phocas HABIMANA, Directeur général de la RTLM 

...... ni igitangaza kumva inkuru nk’iyo ngiyo irantunguye kuko ntishobora n’umuntu yanatekereza 

ko umusirikare uwariwe wese, icyo aricyo cyose,(inaudible) kuvogera inteko ishinga amategeko 

ubu bavuga ngo ni inteko ishinga amategeko ariko ni ingoro mu tjfaransa bayita "Palais de la 

nation", ni ahantu bagomba guha icyubahiro ni ahantu (inaudible)dukura andi mategeko yose 

tugenderaho urumva rero abasirikare nti bagombye kuba ail bo bubahiriza ayo mategeko, aribo 

batuye aho hantu ibyo bintu nibwo bwambere byaba bibaye kw’isi, niko niko tubibona kuko 

n’abasirikare (inaudible) ndumvabaturage twese byari kudutangaza tukibaza tuti none ni uko 

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kuntu basigaye batekereza.Niba rero ibyo bintu koko aribyo ...ma muntutabyamagana 

ntawuta ... ụretse no kubyamagana birantangaje (inaudible) ndumva bail gushaka ahandi 

amahoteri arahari, nib ari n’abasirakare haribigo by’abasirikare baie, bajwari abasikare 

b’Abanyarwanda bazagende babe aho abandi basirikare batute ntabwo mbona impamvu ingoro ya 

rubanda ingoro ya... 

ORATEUR :Non Identfié 

Y’Abadepite 

OTATEUR :Phocas 

eee..y’inama ishinga amategeko ariko ntaaa bashiramo abasirikare nkaho abasirikare babuze aho 

baba ,iki gihugu (inaudible) aho hantu niho bagombye ... 


Humm..kubwawe rero wumva bigayitse ndetse biteye na n’isoni n"agahinda uti bakwiye kujya 

hano. 

ORATEUR :Phocas 

(Passage inaudible) 

ORATEUR 

Eee..murakoze murakoze Phocas ndumva igitekerezo cyawe cyumvikana kubwawe urumva 

bidakwiye ee..murakoze. 

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Nshuti mutwumva abakurikirira hafi ibyo by’Inkotanyi muri CND, baratumenyesha ko muri Hôtel 

Amajyambere iri muri CND rwagati hazabamo gusa abategetsi b’Irakotanyi n’abatechniciens 

babo. None ho ya bataillon igizwe n’abantu maganatandatu ikazaba hafi a.ho ya CND ubu 

baracahashakashaka ariki rero akabatari muri CND rwagaU, kandi akabatari no muri Camp y’i 

Kami, ubwo rero abasirikare b’i Kami basubiza agatima mu nda.(PAUSE 3 sec) 

...Inkuru ivugwa muri uyu mugoroba hano i Kigali ni uko MUHIRWAndré bakunze k~ta 

Kizungu yafashwe. Twamusanze kuri Parquet ya Kigali ntitwashobora kuganira nawe kubera ko 

a..amategeko y’ubucamanza atabitwemereye ariko, tubonana 

Subutsiti HABINSHUTI ariwe 

wamubajije,t ukagira ngo rero tumubaze kubyerekeye gufatwa kwa Kizungu muzi ko havuzwe 

byinshi nta gihe gihacitse yafashwe rero nagira ngo none ho mbanze Subutsiti HABINSHUTI 

wamubajije nasanze mu biro bye, bababwiye ko Kizungu yafashwe are? 

ORATEUR :HABINSHUTI 

Eee..nibyo koko Kizungu..ubusanzwe witwa MUHIRWA yafashwe na Brigade ya Remera 

mw’ijoro ry’itariki ya cumi na karindwi z’ukwezi kwa cumi n’abiri.Aho afatanîje n’abandi bantu 

bari bagiye kwiba umuzungutuye ku Kimihurura .Gusa Kizungu muri ubwo bujura bwe ntabwo 

yaje kugirarnahirwe kuko uwo bagiye k~ba yamurashe akamukomeretsa ad naeyo hanini 

cyatumwe afatwa.Uko yafashwe rero Kizungu amazwe kuraswa yagereragaje kugendariko 

kubera ko intege zari zabaye nkeya yahuye, n’abanyerondo bamuta muri yombi bamugeza 

brigade, abajijwe aho yari yagiye avuga ko ad ibyo byo kwiba ,ajya kubereka naho bagiye k~ba 

kuburyo bahasanze undi mumu uwo umuzungu yari yahatsinze yapfuye byarangiye ..... mituzibyo 

yafashe. 



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Mwigeze rnumubaza noneho uko yacitse kuko mw’icika rye havuzwe byinshi havugamo ibintu 

by’amafaranga ngo baba baratanze kugira ngo acike bab...bya...yababwiye uko yacitse? 


Kizungu rwose yasobanuye uko yacitse ku buryo ibyo yatubwiye tugomba kubigenzura tukareba 

niba harî uwundi yariafatananije nawe cyangwa se ibyo by’amafaranga byarabayeho, gusa 

mw’ikubitiro urasanga ibyo avuga bishobora kuba ari ukuri uretse ko enquête ari enquête, 

tuzabigenzura. 


Mwatubwira se uko yavuze niba ataribanga? 

ORATEUR :HABISHUTI 

Eeu...nkubwiye ko tuzabigenzura nkuko ibintu byo kugenzurwa urumva ko bikirimo ibintu 

byo..byo gukora, ibanga rero riracyahari kuko turamutse tuvuze uko yabitubwiye byose niba hari 

uwabigizemo uruhare yagerageza kubireba uko abyica ntabwo twabikubwira uko babitubwiye mu 

by’ukuri, gusa igihenquête izabarangiye twabigusobanurira. 

ORATEUR’ Non Identifié 

Ariko se nibura yababwiye uko yacitse ate?Twe kuvuga wenda icamucikishije n’uko...ariko 

kugira ngo acike yababwiye ko yacitse ate? 


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lbyo birazwi kuko ha enquête bagira izabikubwira ,Kizungu yageze muri plafond ya y’ivuriro riri 

hariya kuri gereza kwa muganga, yasohokanye n’abandi agiye kwivuza, aza gucunga umucunga 

wa gereza wari wabajyanye ,asi..ajya muri plafond hejuru bwije,yogagira iyo plafond (inaudible) 

aho itari aruruka aea mw’idirisha aragenda. 


Yababwiye se kuva yacika kugeza ejo bundi bajya k~ba ko yabaga hehe? 


Yatubwiye ko hari ahantu yakodesheje inzu, ubwo ibyo nabyo ni ukubigenzura. 


Murakoze. 

Nk’uko mwabyumvise rero twashoboye, twavuganye ha subustiti wabajije Kizungu ariko na 

Kizungu twashoboye kuganira igihe gito noneho ubwo bail bamubwiye ko hari umunyamakuru 

umushaka, ati uwo munyamakuru akorera irihe shyaka? Bail ntabwo ari umunyamakuru 

w’ishyaka n’umunyamakuru wa RTLM.Kizungu ati,nzi ko RTLM ail Radiyo yumvwa cyane muri 

iki gihe ati none ho wa munyamakuru wa RTLM, uzambwirire umugabo yitwa MUGENZI ko 

bishe data,bakamutwara za miliyoni ati none aho bigeze azampe basi ibihumbi maganatanu 

nanjye nirwarize, ati naho ubundi umugambi wanjye nzawukomeza mpaka mu gezeho. 

lndi nkuru ivugwa hano mu gihugu ni ba Inspecteurs mirongo inani kw’ijana 

mirongo inc na 

barindwi mu Rwanda imbehe zabo zaba zigiye kubama mu minsi ya vuba aha. 

Dossier yo kwirukana abo ba Inspecteurs mirongo inani ubu iri mu maboko ya NYIILIMBIBE 

Alphonse, ayigejejweho na Ministre MBONLMPA Yohani Mariya Viyane haba ejo rero,haba ejo 

bundiyo dossier ishobora gusohoka induru zikavuga mu ma centre scolaire menshi y’u Rwanda 

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mu mwaka wa mashuri rwagati.Cyakora Diregiteri w’amashuri abartza n’ayisumbuye 

NIYONSENGA Cipiriyani amaze kumva iyo nkuru ko ba Inspecteurs mirongo inani bagiye 

gikubitwa ishoka yahise yandikira Ministre MBONIMPA tarîki ya..taliki 

gatandatu Nzeri 

Mirongo icyenda na gatatu, ati ibyo bintu byo kwirukana ba Inspecteurs kandi twari tumaze 

kubahugura tunabashinzwemo n’amahanga ati ibyo bintu rero si byo. Ati guhugura aba 

Inspecteurs biri muri gahunda yo guteza imbere uburezi mu mashuri abanza Guverinoma y’u 

Rwanda ifashwamo na Banki y’isi yose, ifashwamo na PNUD,UNICEF,Ubudage,Ubufaransa 

n’indi miryango idahani .... idaharanira inyungu bita ONG.NIYONSENGA Cipiriyani ati kandiyo 

progararnu yo guhugura aba Inspecteurs izatwara imyaka inc gusa uhereye ubu ngubu, iyo 

porogaramu ikazatwara miliyoni mirongo itanu n’ eshanu z’amadolari y’Amanyakerika wayavunja 

mu m’Amanyarwanda ukabonakayabo k’amafaranga miliyari umunani ha mîliyoni maganabiri 

na mirongo itanu.. NIYONSENGA ati Leta y’u Rwanda igiranamasezerano n’abayifasha 

yiyemereye ubwayo kutazajya iduruva...iduru.., iduruvanya abo, abo yahuguye, ibahindurira 

imyanya kuko byaba ail ugufisha ubusa ayo mahugwurwa. NIYONSENGA ati iyo gahunda yo 

gushaka kwimkana abo ba Inspecteurs mirongo inani bakabasimbuza abatahuguwe n’ukwica 

amasezerano twagiranye n’abadufasha kandi n’ukudendeza uburezi. Twibaze noneho kuri iryo 

hindagurwa rya ba Inspecteurs.Mwibuke ko Madame UWILINGF/IMANA Agata igihe yari 

Ministre w’amashuri abanza n’ayisumbuye yahinze ubudehe muri ba Inspecteurs iryo hindagurwa 

ryibasira cyane cyane abatarayobotse ishyaka MDR.None MBO MPA Yohani Mariya Viyane 

nawe ati reka noye kurushwa n’umugore abataraY ob°tse

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bazajya kumenyera ako kazi hapfuye byinshi. Ati uretse no kutamenyera..no kutamenyera akazi ba 

Inspecteurs bashya bazashishikazwa no gushimisha ababahaye intebe n’imbehe aho gushishikazwa 

n’akazi kabo nako bazaba batazi neza. NIYONSENGA Cipiriyani arangiza asobanurira Ministre 

w’amashuri abanza n’ayisumbuye ko ba lnspecteurs bahuguwe bagumishwa mu myanya yabo 

nibura imyaka itanu iri imbere bitaba ibyo akabad gupfukîrana uburezi urubyiruko rw’u Rwanda 

rukaharwa ndetse n’igihugu cyose kikazahazahanira. 

Akaduruvayo muri ba Inspecteurs kabanjwe guterwa n’intambara y"amashyaka ngo bashaka 

kurimbura MRND mu mashuri none intambara n’amaeakubiri muri MDR nayo agiye kugarika 

îzindi ngoga.Inspecteur wese utayobotse "MDR Rukokoma" ameze nk’a kanyoni karitse mu 

mayira abiri kagize kati napfa nakira simbizi! 

Andi makuru ni avuye i Burundi muri Province ya Bubanza.Guvedneri rero w’iyo Province ya 

Bubanza NTAHOMVUKIYE Evariste baraye bamwishe urwo agashinyaguro.Ubanze adcyo bita 

mu kirundi kumugandagura. Bamwicishije rero amabuye yicwa n’agatsiko k’abaturage b’Abatutsi 

bad bamuteze. Nyakwigendera NTAHOMVUKIYE Evaritse ubwo bamwishe.., bamwishejo ail 

mu ma saa yine y’ijoro avuye guhumuriza abaturage iwabo i Bubaaaza.Ubwo rero yagize cya 

cyizere kiraza igiteme ati ubwo ari iwaiu nta kibazo nagira. Abasilikare bari bajyanye bamudnze 

abagezaho bagombaga kurara ku kigo cyabo, aca ku musozi we kavukire, atashye kw’icumbu 

rye rero nibwo bavugije amabuye imodoka bayihinduye ubureti babonye amabuye yamujanje 

baraza bavanamo indembe bayihorahoreza mu murima uri hafi aho. 

Abantu bagakeka ko ad abo basirikare yari amaze gucyura, ail bo rero bacyuze uwo mugambi 

bakamutega igice cy’abaturage. NI’AHOMVUKIYE Evadste yari Umuhuturi mu bashinze 

ishyaka Sahwanya FRODEBU akaba yari kavukire ka..muri Province ya Bubanza yari abereye 

Guvereneri. Twibutse ko mu Burundi Province iyoborwa na Guw«dned uyivukamo nk’uko mu 

Rwanda ubu Perefegitura isigaye iyoborwa ha Préfet uyivukamo. 

Indi nkuru tukiri mu Burundi uruzinduko Perezida YOWERI MUSEVENI wa Uganda 

yagombaga kugirira i Bujumbura mu Burundi ejo, urwo ruzinduko rero rwasubitswe. 

Gusib..gusubika urwo ruzinduko byaturutse ku mpamvu nyinshi kandi zinyuranye. 

Impamvu ya mbere, abantu bibazaga icyari kijyanye MUSEVENI mu Burundi mu gihe..mu bihe 

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nk’ibicyo gihugu kirimo akakibura. Cyane cyane ko MUSEVENI atigeze ahinduka igihe 

Nyakwigendera Perezida Melikiyoro NDADAYE yimikwaga ntanaboneke mu gihe cyo 

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kumushyingura. Indi mpamvu ikindi, inkunga MUSEVENI yateye htkotanyi mu ntaJ«nbara 

zashoje mu Rwanda, Abarundi barayizi. Bakavuga ko inkunga MUSEVENI yateye Inkotanyi ngo 

yayiteye n’Abatutsi bo mu Burundi ngo kuko yabonaga bashobora kum~wa n’Abahutu. 

Abarundi rero bakavuga, baka...bavuga ibyo bati uruzinduko rwa MUSEVENI ni nko kubyina 

ï- 

Abahutu ku mubyimba, bati rurutwa nuko rwarorerwa. 

Ikindi cyari giteye impungenge cyane muri urwo ruzinduko ni porogaramu ubyayo uko yari iteye 

mu gihugu kitagira Perezida.Bati MUSEVENI azabonana mu bwiherero na Ministre w’intebe ni 

uko bakibaza bati esc barangana ? Ni uko bakongera bati MUSEVENI ubwo naza mu Burundi 

azabonana n’abakuru b’intwaramiheto z’Uburundi. Abarundi bamwe bati ibyo bintu ntibibitse 

kuko niba Uburundi, bati ibyo bintu ntibibitse kuko niba Uburundi bwakiriye umushitsi agashaka 

kugira i Eyo abwira ingabo z’igihugu mu gihe ma Mugabengabo uriho yabinyuza ku musimbura we 

cyangwakabinyuza mu kiganiro yagirana n’abanyamakuru. Bati rero ni ukwivanga mu bintu 

igihe MUSEVENI yasaba kubonana n’abakuru b’ingabo atanyuze ku nzego za politiki ziriho ubu 

mu Burundi. No kubonana n’abakuru b’amashyaka 

politiki nabyo bati ntibihwitse kuko 

amashyaka atari yo akora politiki mpuzamahanga y’igihugu.Uruzindiko rero rwa MUSEVENI 

yagombaga kugirira mu Burundi murumva ko rwad ruteye ikibazo.Abarundi bamwe bakabona B 

impuhwe MUSEVENI afitiye I Brundi ad impuhwe nkiza ....... 

Ng’ayo rero amakuru nari 

nabateguriye, ubwo turakomeza tuganire noneho ubwo aya makul~ arangiye, hari n’ibindi 

biganiro mil bugirane mukomeze rero mwumva umiika mwiza kuri RTLM. 


¯ « "J" ¯ " " a 

............. 1_, ,,,,~ m,~,’ii ro rv’itariki 

1jo -j mak-umyabm n lmwe zashtra ly 

...mbibutse rero nsnuu murwumw ~,o ,~,,, ¯ .... 

mkumyabiri na kabiri Ukuboza.Tukaba rero tugenda tugana mu mpera z’umwaka mu mpera 

z’umwaka cyarîe cyane duhanze amaso kubera ko muri aya matariki ad imbcre, imbere y’àadki ya 

mbere Mutarama mirongo icyenda ha kane twiteze twese ishyirwaho rya Guverinoma 


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y’lnzibaeyuho yaguye izaba irimo FPR. Abantu bumvise rero TWAGIRAMUNGU eeu..Fausitini 

bakunze k~ta Rukokomariko Rukokoma ubanza bakunze...bagiye kurireka kubera ko ngira 

ngo ko agiye kuba Ministre w’intebe sinzi niba iryo zina akirikunda cyane, cyane cyane ha 

Rukokoma ko ira n, iyaburiyemo.TWAGIRAMUNGU rero bita Rukokom abamwumvise avugira 

kuri Radiyo Rwandavuga ibyerekeye Guverinoma agiye kuzashira:ho wagira ngo ibintu 

biroroshye ukumva ma kibazo afite. Ariko nkagira ngo nshuti mutwumva tugire ibintu dutekereza 

duse n’abatekereza ariko tuvuga, none ho turebe koko ibibazo bishobora gutuma 

TWAGIRAMUNGU ashyiraho iyo Gugerinoma mu buryo butamworoheye cyangwa se 

akayishyiraho. Ngira ngo muzi ko mu masezerano ya Arusha hari ingingo ivuga ko Ministre 

w’intebe w’Inzibacyuho yaguye irimo FPR, azava mw’ishyaka MDR. Iyo akab ail ingingo 

igaragara abantu bail. Ndetse kuberamacenga yabaye muri ayo masezerano bashyiramo ko 

umuwo muntu ail TWAGIKAMUNGU Fawusitini bita Rukokoma ko ariwe rero Ministre 

w’intebe w’Inzibacyuho yaguye izaba irimo FPR. Abantu bakibaza bati ko bavuze ko eeu..azaba 

Premier Ministre, Ministre w’intebe azava muri MDR bati kuki bagombye gushyiramo izina, bati 

mbese nk’ubu TWAGIR_AMUNGU apfuye simwifuriza gupfa, bati agize nk’ikibazo akarwara 

cyangwakagira izindi mpamvu zatumatayobora iyo Guverinorna ayo masezerano yasubiramo? 

Icyo kikaba ikibazo cya mbere. Arîko ieyo cyo nta ldbazo gihari loako Rukokoma arakomeye 

ameze neza yiteguye kuyobora Guverinoma azashyiraho. Ariko ikibazo bashyizemo izina 

TWAGIRAMUNGU Fausitini muzi amacakubiri ail muri MDP,, hari MDR nyine Rukokoma ha 

MDR bakunze kwitirira KARAMIRA ayo macakubiri akaba ahari, hakaba kandi hari inama ubu 

ibahuza cyan eyane Abasenyeri ,abihaye Imana bakaba barimo gukora uko bashoboye kwose 

kugira ngo bunge abo bantu. Mukubunga umuti bakunze kuvuga eyane ni uko hakorwa indi 

congrès none ho iyabaye ku Kabusunzu barnwe banga bakavuga bati yabaye idakurikiza 

arnategeko, none ho hakaba congrès ikudkiza amategeko, none ho bagatora abayobozi bashya 

b’ishyaka. Ikibazo rero kikaba iki.Hari abantu bo muri MDR Power twanaganiriye nabo, iyo 

ubabwiye ibintu byo lc~yunga, baravuga ati ibyo bintu bigirwa n’abantu bo hanze twebwe iryo 

jambo kwiyunga riveho ntaribaho kuko iyo uvuze k~yunga murï MDR bavuga kunga ha 

TWAGIRAMUNGU bati rero ibyo ntabyo. None ho rero tuvuge, ni ugutekereza gusa buri muntu 

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afite uburenganzira ..... 

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