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COVER STORY<br />

Last year Meryl Streep won the same Cecil<br />

B. DeMille Award and it felt like a<br />

completely different time, as it was all about<br />

Donald Trump becoming the President.<br />

This time there were all the sexual<br />

harassment allegations and everyone wore<br />

black at the ceremony. After your emotional<br />

speech, do you feel the country, together as<br />

a whole, is moving in a better direction than<br />

last year?<br />

I always think, and know, having watched it over<br />

the years through thousands and thousands of<br />

interviews and watching people in their<br />

dysfunction, that when something negative is<br />

brewing, that there is the direct opposite reaction<br />

that is also possible. For every action, there is an<br />

equal and opposite reaction. When something as<br />

big as what started to happen in October with<br />

Harvey Weinstein (sexual harassment accusations),<br />

started to unfold, I thought, whoa, whoa, whoa,<br />

and with every day’s revelation, here is an<br />

opportunity for powerful growth. How do we use<br />

this moment to elevate what is happening instead<br />

of continually victimizing ourselves?<br />

What did you think about the idea of<br />

wearing black and a ‘#TimesUp’ button on<br />

the red carpet?<br />

I think that wearing black in solidarity is one step.<br />

What Time’s Up is doing with the legal defense<br />

fund is a major step. It was very important to all<br />

of us involved, to state that it’s not just about the<br />

women of Hollywood, because we are already a<br />

privileged group, but to extend to the women of<br />

the world. Because as I said in my speech, there<br />

isn’t a culture, a race, a religion, a politic, or a<br />

workplace that hasn’t been affected by it. And it’s<br />

been happening for a very long time. People<br />

didn’t feel that they could speak up, and there are<br />

so many women who have endured so much and<br />

remained silent and kept going because there was<br />

no other recourse, and now that we’ve all joined<br />

as one voice, it is empowerment to those women<br />

who never had it.<br />

You are on top of the world and everybody<br />

talks about your speech at the Golden Globes.<br />

What humbles you right now?<br />

The Cecil B. DeMille award humbles me. When<br />

they first called my name and said they wanted me<br />

to accept it, I said, “I shouldn’t be the person to get<br />

the Cecil B. DeMille award.” I was working with<br />

Reese Witherspoon this past spring and winter, and<br />

I happened to just say in the makeup room one<br />

morning, “Oh, how many movies have you done?”<br />

and she said “I don’t know. It’s been so many.” And<br />

then I thought, “I hope they don’t ask me because I<br />

think it’s been five.” And so, I didn’t understand it,<br />

but then they explained that it’s about overall<br />

entertainment. What I was able to do with the Oprah<br />

show and the cultural statement we were able to<br />

make throughout the world, I feel extremely proud<br />

of that, but I think that when it comes to films, I am<br />

really the new kid on the block. I always feel like<br />

when I’m acting, that I am out of my box. It’s the<br />

most intimidated I ever feel.<br />

What would you say is the greatest lesson<br />

you’ve learned throughout your life and career?<br />

It’s a lesson from Maya Angelou, when I first<br />

met her. And after I’d known her for a while,<br />

she said, “Baby, you need to know that when<br />

people show you who they are, you believe them<br />

the first time. And the problem is it takes you 29<br />

times.” This is the same lesson coming in a<br />

different skirt, wearing a different pair of pants.<br />

I think that has been one of my greatest wisdom<br />

teachings, to assess from people’s behavior,<br />

their actions, not just towards me, but towards<br />

other people – who they are and how they<br />

behave. Because if people talk about other<br />

people, they’ll talk about you. I think in business<br />

and personal relationships, that’s always been<br />

my greatest lesson. Also, staying grounded, has<br />

been great for me.<br />

When you look over your life, what advice would<br />

you give to a seven-year-old Oprah Winfrey<br />

about surviving as a woman in this world?<br />

At seven, I was so sad. All my real love came<br />

from my teachers. You have no idea the power<br />

of noticing another human being and what it<br />

feels like when somebody knows that they have<br />

been seen, truly seen by you. It is the greatest<br />

offering you can give, and all those years of the<br />

Oprah Show, the greatest lesson I learned was<br />

that after every show, someone would say,<br />

invariably, in one way or another, how was that?<br />

I did an interview with a father who killed<br />

his twin daughters, followed by an interview<br />

29<br />

EQUITY

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