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42— VANGUARD, MONDAY, APRIL 9, 2018<br />

Why Tinubu should<br />

fear day of<br />

reckoning<br />

— BODE GEORGE<br />

•Explains why PDP<br />

apologised to Nigerians<br />

Chief Olabode Ibiyinka George is a <strong>for</strong>mer<br />

Deputy National Chairman of the People's Democratic<br />

Party, PDP.<br />

In this interview, George expressed reservations over<br />

the <strong>for</strong>mation of a Third Force saying he does not believe<br />

in the movement. He also bared his mind on burning<br />

national issues and issues affecting the PDP. Excerpts:<br />

By Dapo Akinrefon, Deputy<br />

Regional Editor, South-West<br />

What in<strong>for</strong>med the decision of<br />

your party, PDP, to apologise to Nigerians<br />

in Abuja recently?<br />

After the 2015 election which we<br />

lost, we first of all went into<br />

a spin, which is normal. We<br />

had predicted that we would rule<br />

Nigeria <strong>for</strong> 60 years, but suddenly,<br />

after 16 years in power, we were sent<br />

packing. So, we did an assessment of<br />

what happened. Where did we go<br />

wrong? Do we continue to pretend to<br />

ourselves that we were doing<br />

everything right? To me, what we did<br />

at the conference was the civilised way<br />

of approach to go back to power, not<br />

in arrogance. We accepted that there<br />

had been a problem of imposition, lack<br />

of respect <strong>for</strong> the party’s constitution,<br />

lack of respect <strong>for</strong> the feelings of the<br />

other person, manipulation and all<br />

those ills that are part of APC especially<br />

with Tinubu in Lagos State.<br />

Henry Ajomale had been chairman of<br />

APC since 1999 - from the days of AD<br />

to AC, to ACN and now APC. Perpetual<br />

state chairman! Where has the congress<br />

ever been done? I have not seen<br />

any congress where Ajomale emerged.<br />

He must be a beautiful man that the<br />

party believes must be their perpetual<br />

chairman and he is not tired yet.<br />

You see, these are ills that are plaguing<br />

Third World countries. I am sure<br />

that their constitution must have a constitutional<br />

limit. Two terms, end of the<br />

show. But in Tinubu’s APC, theirs is<br />

perpetual. The man cannot make a<br />

mistake and is higher than human<br />

beings. You see the fallacy. I think<br />

Tinubu got carried away and I am<br />

giving him a bell of caution. We in<br />

PDP said the same thing years back.<br />

Nigerians are no fools. The state of<br />

the affairs of this country today calls<br />

<strong>for</strong> Nigerians to dispassionately look<br />

at the two parties.<br />

When I saw our national chairman,<br />

Uche Secondus talking, I said<br />

whoever advised them to approach<br />

these problems we had like this is<br />

dead serious.<br />

The Secondus I saw was humble,<br />

civil and he was thinking of the future.<br />

We knew where we were coming<br />

from. We were in power and only those<br />

who are humble will God continue to<br />

bless. For me, that was the catch and<br />

I said to him that you have talked the<br />

talk, let us go back and walk the walk.<br />

Let us go back to Nigerians and tell<br />

them we are ready to make amends<br />

<strong>for</strong> these problems that they listed<br />

which made them vote us out.<br />

God grants power, He gives to those<br />

He wants and those He doesn’t want,<br />

He takes from them. But I think it was<br />

a lesson <strong>for</strong> our party. We are going to<br />

regroup. We are staying back to repair<br />

that house that is leaking. I wish<br />

Tinubu best of luck on his 10th-year<br />

Colloquium but if that is the message<br />

that will come out from there, I think<br />

that is not a serious-minded talk.<br />

Today is Tinubu’s day of glory; let him<br />

be careful that there is an Almighty<br />

Being that gives and takes. Don’t be<br />

so selflessly impudent and <strong>for</strong>get that<br />

there is a day of reckoning.<br />

Former governor of Lagos State,<br />

Asiwaju Bola Tinubu, at his 10th<br />

annual Colloquium said Nigerians<br />

should not accept the apology<br />

offered by your party. He also said<br />

PDP will never come back to power.<br />

What is your take on that?<br />

First of all, let me ask Tinubu, is he<br />

God? Or has he gotten the powers of<br />

God that he can see the future? I think<br />

that is a rubbish statement to make as<br />

a leader. If that is what he thinks, I<br />

think it is wishful thinking. He will<br />

soon realise that everything that has<br />

a beginning has an end, and that is<br />

the power of the Almighty, the One<br />

who was, who is and will <strong>for</strong>ever be.<br />

There is no human being that lives<br />

perpetually. There are three things in<br />

life you don’t control - the day you<br />

were born, your nationality (whether<br />

you are Chinese, African or American)<br />

and the day you will exit. That shows<br />

you there is a Being and power greater<br />

than us.<br />

So, when people get up and make<br />

such statements that Tinubu made,<br />

that PDP will never come back to<br />

power, that is arrogance being<br />

exhibited. Let me advise him that we<br />

used to say that PDP will rule this<br />

country <strong>for</strong> 60 years. Then we sat back,<br />

put everything on auto-pilot and went<br />

to sleep. Alas, we found ourselves on<br />

the deck and that was why in humility,<br />

during the last conference held by the<br />

party in Abuja, the delivery, the<br />

content and per<strong>for</strong>mance was the<br />

zenith of humility.<br />

The APC also claimed that it will<br />

We knew where we<br />

were coming from. We<br />

were in power and only<br />

those who are humble<br />

will God continue to<br />

bless. For me, that<br />

was the catch and I said<br />

to him that you have<br />

talked the talk, let us go<br />

back and walk the walk<br />

continue to talk about corruption<br />

under the PDP government because<br />

your party looted the nation’s<br />

treasury in the last 16 years and<br />

battered the economy which APC is<br />

now recovering. What is your perspective<br />

on that?<br />

Ask any Nigerian today; are you<br />

better off now than when PDP was in<br />

government? That is the measure, the<br />

yardstick to know the difference<br />

between both parties. What I would<br />

have expected him to do is to close<br />

the doors and ask APC members<br />

serious questions about the state of the<br />

nation under their leadership. I know<br />

President Muhammadu Buhari was<br />

from my professional calling. That is<br />

what we do in the military. We do an<br />

in-depth analysis of where we are,<br />

where are we coming from and where<br />

do we want to go. At times, I look at<br />

the APC and ask, so they have never<br />

made any mistake? They are saying<br />

PDP is corrupt and they will continue<br />

to talk about the corruption.<br />

There will be a day of reckoning, no<br />

matter how long. People will ask<br />

questions. So <strong>for</strong> me, that is not a<br />

proper approach. By the grace of God<br />

Almighty and the power of Nigerians,<br />

PDP will be ready be<strong>for</strong>e the end of<br />

2018.<br />

Is your party threatened by the<br />

emergence of SDP which has been<br />

branded as the Third Force<br />

movement, especially given the fact<br />

that some key members of your party<br />

have already joined?<br />

I wish them the best of luck; fair<br />

winds as they sail into the unknown<br />

waters. No matter how fast you can<br />

run, if you have a 100 meters race,<br />

somebody has gone about 50 meters<br />

and you are at the starting block, can<br />

you catch him?<br />

In an election year, you are just starting<br />

a political party that has no track<br />

record. And if you look at it, it is the<br />

same people that are rushing down<br />

there. Those who have been<br />

landlords, they now say their house<br />

is leaking and they went to become<br />

tenant in another man’s house. If your<br />

house is leaking, the rational thing to<br />

do is stay back there and repair it,<br />

remodel it. If they are looking <strong>for</strong><br />

utopia, they can never get it. They can<br />

never achieve it. That is why I said it<br />

is civil <strong>for</strong> you to accept your failings<br />

because God said you will run into<br />

tribulations and trials in the road of<br />

your life. It can never be always<br />

straight without bumps and round-<br />

Continues on Page 43

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