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Q: Michael, what's the collaborative process for you and<br />

your team when you start working on a new project?<br />

Michael: Every partner at Pentagram manages their own<br />

small team, and I’ve noticed that every team approaches<br />

collaboration a little differently. When I get a new<br />

assignment, I usually bring in one of my designers to work<br />

with me on it. That designer will take the lead on the<br />

project management and ultimately has the responsibility<br />

to see that it’s going to be done right.<br />

Sometimes a project is complex and will require a bigger<br />

team. For instance, if a project combines identity and<br />

environmental graphics, I might bring in two designers,<br />

one for each area. Other times one designer takes a lead<br />

and others are pulled in, often to provide specialized<br />

assistance for a specific part of the job. Because we all work<br />

together in a big open plan office, people are making<br />

connections informally on a continuous basis.<br />

Q: To follow up on that, can you provide an example of an<br />

ideal collaborative experience with a client?<br />

Michael: Having a client participate in the creative process<br />

is a way to increase the chances that they’ll understand,<br />

and fully commit to, the final recommendation. Because so<br />

much work depends on the quality of its ongoing<br />

implementation - work that is often done in house, or by<br />

other agencies - we invest a lot of time in making sure the<br />

client sees the solution as something they can take full<br />

possession of. That said, our clients seldom expect to be<br />

“co-designing” with us: they come to Pentagram because<br />

they respect our expertise and look to us for leadership.<br />

In my experience the key is to avoid “presentation mode”<br />

- those sessions when salesmanship overtakes empathy -<br />

and keep actively listening through the whole process.<br />

Q: How has your creative process evolved over the years<br />

when working on identity design projects?<br />

Michael: Although the technological context of brand<br />

identity has changed radically in every possible way since I<br />

began in 1980, I honestly can’t say my creative process has<br />

changed that much. I think as I’ve gotten more mature,<br />

I’ve come to realize that clever solutions sometimes work<br />

beautifully at the moment of launch but don't stand up to<br />

the test of time. Simple ideas tend to endure, and it takes<br />

restraint and even humility to stay simple.<br />

Q: From what I can remember, 20 years ago, when an<br />

established company changed their logo, it barely<br />

registered outside the design community. Not so today.<br />

What's changed? Is it a function of social media?<br />

Michael: It may not be only social media, but it is<br />

technology. Logos are no longer just things that people<br />

encounter (and usually pay no attention to) on the sides of<br />

trucks or the ends of commercials. Instead, they’re icons<br />

<br />

~<br />

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