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INTER-<br />
2018<br />
SKIPFICTION ZINE<br />
LUDE<br />
Page 1
Letter<br />
From The<br />
Editor<br />
content<br />
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8<br />
15<br />
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An Interview With Miles Coleman<br />
AKA Wing Vilma<br />
American babylon: snapshots of<br />
A diy festival<br />
Mismatch<br />
Proving Grounds Sojii on the Perils<br />
& Triumphs of DIY Touring<br />
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An Interview<br />
With Miles<br />
Coleman<br />
AKA Wing<br />
Vilma<br />
By: Zac Abid<br />
Miles Coleman’s Wing<br />
Vilma project has been<br />
a long-time staple of<br />
the Grand Rapids music<br />
scene, at least for me.<br />
Wing Vilma performs<br />
a heavily layered,<br />
groove-driven form of<br />
electronic music, that<br />
never sacrifices its sense<br />
of wonder as its strives<br />
to create dense, mystical<br />
soundscapes. It’s also<br />
nice to hear exceptional<br />
electronic music in<br />
a scene so populated<br />
by rock bands. Miles<br />
released his first album<br />
as Wing Vilma, Safe By<br />
Night, this past February.<br />
Since then, Miles<br />
has been incredibly<br />
active musically and<br />
personally. I talked to<br />
Miles about his album<br />
release and recent tour,<br />
as well as moving to<br />
Detroit and working<br />
for music label Young<br />
Heavy Souls.<br />
So you released your debut<br />
album Safe by Night,<br />
on Young Heavy Souls in<br />
February. I’ve watched<br />
your project grow for<br />
a while now, and this<br />
is a long time coming<br />
for you. Do you want to<br />
tell me a little bit about<br />
what it was like to make<br />
this record, and how you<br />
feel about its reception?<br />
Miles Coleman: “So this<br />
record was really something<br />
I’ve been working<br />
on for… 2 or 3 years.<br />
I was sitting down one<br />
day about a year ago to<br />
look through what I’d<br />
made and try and figure<br />
out what was going to<br />
become “Wing Vilma”…<br />
I realized I had a whole<br />
record. Without thinking<br />
about it too much I<br />
had created something<br />
pretty comprehensive<br />
and expressive of the my<br />
influences at the time.<br />
There was a long time<br />
where I rejected the<br />
idea of including music<br />
I’d made with vocals in<br />
my electronic projects,<br />
but as I realized I was<br />
trying to find a new title<br />
for my work I realized it<br />
didn’t make sense to put<br />
limitations on what this<br />
project can be.<br />
“Wing Vilma” as a title<br />
is sourced from the<br />
mind of a child, and I<br />
want the music to reflect<br />
the borderless frame<br />
of mind a child sees<br />
the world through. I’m<br />
hoping that as I keep<br />
working on this project<br />
I remove more and more<br />
of the mental blocks<br />
brought on by social<br />
conditioning of adulthood.”<br />
So you’re on tour right<br />
now. How is that going?<br />
How did that tour come<br />
about? What’s it like<br />
presenting your music to<br />
people who have never<br />
heard it before?<br />
“Tour is sick!! I love getting<br />
around and gigging<br />
more than I ever have<br />
before. I’m finding the<br />
confidence to play shows<br />
in unpredictable spaces<br />
and under unpredictable<br />
conditions and it’s been<br />
so fulfilling to rise to<br />
that challenge. When<br />
it’s just me going out to<br />
play these shows, I can’t<br />
think about it too much.<br />
I’ve just been booking<br />
myself as many gigs as I<br />
can, but I didn’t even set<br />
out to be having a tour<br />
initially. I just booked a<br />
bunch of gigs and before<br />
I knew it I was traveling!<br />
It’s been great getting<br />
around the Midwest. I<br />
love playing small towns<br />
and meeting people<br />
who’ve never heard of<br />
my music…. Playing<br />
New York last year was<br />
fun, but that’s like… the<br />
idea of a show, almost.<br />
There’s real traction<br />
in playing small town<br />
house shows. People<br />
genuinely care.”<br />
You recently moved to<br />
Detroit. How did that<br />
move come about? How<br />
has that change affected<br />
your musical endeavors?<br />
“Moving to Detroit has<br />
been an idea since I<br />
graduated high school,<br />
but I’ve never been<br />
ready until this year.<br />
Leaving home is hard,<br />
but so necessary. I feel<br />
more potential here,<br />
because nobody knows<br />
me. In Grand Rapids I<br />
had found myself at a<br />
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point where I was working<br />
in the schools and<br />
museums I went to as a<br />
kid, and the staff hadn’t<br />
necessarily changed<br />
since I was a kid and it<br />
made me feel crazy hahaha.<br />
So, yeah, Detroit<br />
is wonderful. I’m feeling<br />
very driven to focus<br />
on my passions here. I<br />
might even go to school<br />
again, who knows.”<br />
You work for Detroit-based<br />
music label<br />
Young Heavy Souls now.<br />
What’s your role like<br />
there? Similarly, what<br />
do they do for you, as<br />
both your employer and<br />
your music label? What’s<br />
it like working for the<br />
label that also publishes<br />
your music?<br />
“Sometimes working<br />
or the label I work with<br />
can be hard. It’s not<br />
always easy to draw<br />
concrete lines on what<br />
is paid label work, and<br />
what is unpaid creative<br />
work for myself. I’m<br />
learning a lot about<br />
what it takes to promote<br />
and run a healthy label.<br />
Knowing that so many<br />
artists other than myself<br />
are relying on the work<br />
we do to make their<br />
releases successful is a<br />
demanding idea, but it<br />
feels good to hear artists<br />
we work with express<br />
confidence in the way<br />
we show their work.<br />
Branding is wild, but<br />
also fun. I’m so excited<br />
about the upcoming<br />
releases we have been<br />
working on, and without<br />
saying too much… we’re<br />
going world wide this<br />
year.”<br />
You recently announced<br />
preorders for the vinyl<br />
edition of your album.<br />
What does it mean to<br />
you to have your music<br />
released on that format?<br />
How did that opportunity<br />
come about?<br />
“Vinyl has always been<br />
a goal for us, and the<br />
level of support this<br />
album has received on<br />
bandcamp has been so<br />
tangible and has felt so<br />
grassroots that we just<br />
felt confident that people<br />
who have been enjoying<br />
the record would<br />
want to own in physically,<br />
and that the people<br />
who catch me on tour<br />
would too. Vinyl feels so<br />
much more tangible to<br />
me than anything else<br />
and I’ve always loved<br />
picking up a record I<br />
love, handing it to a<br />
friend and just saying<br />
“take a look at this”<br />
or “let’s spin this one<br />
I think you’ll love it”.<br />
Like… that’s amazing!<br />
That’s how I connect<br />
with something usually.<br />
I’m excited to think<br />
people might have the<br />
same experience with<br />
what I’ve made, and the<br />
design is gorgeous too<br />
so I really can’t wait to<br />
get my hands on it.”<br />
I saw that you also recently<br />
had the opportunity<br />
to curate a mix for<br />
Slow Breathing Circuit.<br />
How did that opportunity<br />
come about? How did<br />
you select the music you<br />
wanted to feature?<br />
That mix was a great<br />
opportunity to showcase<br />
what I’ve been listening<br />
to, and premier some<br />
amazing new music<br />
from my friends. I also<br />
leaked a recording from<br />
a band I previously<br />
played keyboards for,<br />
but which had never<br />
been heard by anyone<br />
but us. It’s almost irrelevant<br />
if it means anything<br />
to anyone but me, but I<br />
think it does honestly.<br />
Slow Breathing Circuit<br />
reaches out to me and<br />
specifically asked for a<br />
mix, and the direction<br />
I took it in felt like the<br />
most exciting way for<br />
me to give them something<br />
comprehensive.<br />
I love making mixes.<br />
Hopefully someone else<br />
asks to hear what music<br />
I like sometime soon.<br />
You’ve been making<br />
music for a long time<br />
but ‘Wing Vilma’ is<br />
a newer moniker for<br />
your work. What does<br />
the future hold for this<br />
project? Where do you<br />
see yourself a few years<br />
from now?<br />
I feel good about this<br />
title. I feel confident it’s<br />
a title I could use for<br />
years and years without<br />
feeling constrained<br />
by my past works. It<br />
goes back to what I was<br />
saying earlier. The name<br />
represents something<br />
bigger than myself. It’s<br />
an expression of child<br />
like thinking, and that is<br />
what makes the possibilities<br />
feel so endless.<br />
Hopefully I do something<br />
I don’t yet expect.<br />
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AMERICAN<br />
BABYLON:<br />
Snapshots of a<br />
DIY Festival<br />
By: Jess Kwiatkowski<br />
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When you think about<br />
North Carolina, you<br />
probably think about<br />
Charlotte, Asheville, and<br />
Raleigh. Some of you<br />
might even think about<br />
Charleston and Myrtle<br />
Beach, even though<br />
those cities are actually<br />
located in South Carolina.<br />
It’s okay; it happens<br />
more often than you<br />
think. The “Old South”<br />
possesses its own connotations<br />
for the world<br />
at large, and perhaps<br />
those biases come to<br />
mind as well. What you<br />
do not think about is a<br />
little place called Rocky<br />
Mount, NC.<br />
In this nearly abandoned<br />
place, where entire city<br />
blocks are up for sale,<br />
Ryan Patrick O’Doud<br />
has taken up residence<br />
to fight the good fight<br />
that is establishing and<br />
maintaining a regional,<br />
eclectic DIY scene. I<br />
introduce him simply as<br />
an artist who previously<br />
powered an entire house<br />
show via solar panels<br />
attached to his van,<br />
and whose mathemati-<br />
cally-driven electronic<br />
music, as Bitter, Inc.,<br />
blends the existential<br />
questions of a generation<br />
with sharp anti-capitalist<br />
satire. In May of 2017, he<br />
took a leap of faith and<br />
brought American Babylon<br />
into the world.<br />
When I asked Ryan<br />
what inspired American<br />
Babylon, he reminisced<br />
about the now-defunct<br />
Port Shitty Antifest in<br />
Wilmington, NC, where<br />
I first met him, and<br />
which had taken place<br />
the year prior: “In June<br />
2016, I worked sound<br />
and managed the schedule<br />
while my then-partner<br />
Murphy did most of<br />
the booking and entertaining.<br />
I loved the DIY<br />
spirit, the willingness to<br />
work cooperatively, and<br />
especially the cross-pollination<br />
between artists.<br />
I found the experience so<br />
inspiring that I decided I<br />
wanted to try to organize<br />
a multi-day fest myself.<br />
Rocky Mount, which is a<br />
tabula rasa, seemed ideal<br />
to co-create a new type<br />
of culture.”<br />
American Babylon,<br />
a seven-day festival<br />
featuring a vibrant<br />
arrangement of regional<br />
musicians with a thick<br />
underlying theme of<br />
community and cooperation,<br />
took place at<br />
a single house in that<br />
small town called Rocky<br />
Mount. Pilgrims to<br />
this event were invited<br />
to sleep in the various<br />
rooms of the house or<br />
pitch tents in the yard.<br />
Having personally made<br />
the trip from Charleston<br />
with now Grand Rapids-based<br />
band, Another<br />
Man’s Trash, we opted to<br />
set up outside with other<br />
acts including the folkpunk<br />
Pokin’ Holes, and<br />
southeast phenomenon<br />
The Emotron.<br />
While there are plenty of<br />
“scenes” in North Carolina<br />
and the surrounding<br />
states, Ryan and Bitter,<br />
Inc., along with many of<br />
the American Babylon<br />
acts, are part of what<br />
he calls the “Outsider<br />
scene.” Since we cannot<br />
focus too long on<br />
the individual bands,<br />
Ryan gave me a general<br />
description of the sort<br />
of people that he works<br />
alongside; “The Outsider<br />
scene,” which is what<br />
American Babylon is primarily<br />
focused on, is one<br />
of the most generous and<br />
forgiving groups of people<br />
that I have ever met.<br />
Most of the acts are in it<br />
primarily for self-expression<br />
and the stage high.<br />
Money doesn’t seem to<br />
be the primary mover for<br />
these people. They want<br />
to make art. They want<br />
to have an opportunity to<br />
perform. All of us seem<br />
to be a bit off from neurotypical<br />
too, so there’s<br />
a healthy community of<br />
strangers and weirdos<br />
working together. It’s a<br />
really great thing to be a<br />
part of.”<br />
It suffices to say that each<br />
performance brought its<br />
own unique energy to<br />
the warm kinship which<br />
illuminated the entire<br />
week.<br />
My party remained for<br />
the first half; relocation<br />
to Grand Rapids,<br />
unfortunately, prevented<br />
us from witnessing the<br />
climax of American<br />
Babylon. On any of those<br />
given nights, roughly<br />
twenty to thirty people<br />
remained for a space of<br />
days while others left<br />
this, frequently described<br />
as, magical place to<br />
attend their personal<br />
obligations.<br />
During our time, food<br />
donations rounded out<br />
by dumpster diving<br />
provided breakfast,<br />
lunch, and dinner for the<br />
visitors. I took my turn<br />
cooking for everyone<br />
on the first afternoon,<br />
but only a few rotations<br />
passed before one artist,<br />
James, dedicated himself<br />
to preparing our provisions.<br />
Fruit smoothies,<br />
tacos, stews, and plenty<br />
of rice fortified us, and<br />
there was always a vegetarian<br />
option. Drinking<br />
and merrymaking<br />
overlaid the event, and<br />
early afternoons before<br />
the shows featured artists<br />
plucking instruments<br />
into song and coaxing<br />
tales into tapestry. Burning<br />
incense perfumed the<br />
air. The yard where we<br />
stayed accommodated up<br />
to twelve tents at a time,<br />
hackneyed in their alignment<br />
yet navigable.<br />
Campers, like myself, assisted<br />
in various odd jobs<br />
to upkeep the property.<br />
From cleaning counter<br />
“The Outsider scene,” which is what<br />
American Babylon is primarily focused<br />
on, is one of the most generous and<br />
forgiving groups of people that I<br />
have ever met.<br />
tops, to collecting beer<br />
cans, to sweeping and<br />
mopping, everyone<br />
pitched in. As a result,<br />
despite crowds sometimes<br />
surging to upwards<br />
of 60, the house never<br />
looked much worse for<br />
the wear as the days<br />
progressed.<br />
These illustrations<br />
arrive at expense of<br />
sentiment. It is easy to<br />
write how, in a botched<br />
train hop, more experienced<br />
punkers carefully<br />
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andaged up our friend<br />
by picking the gravel<br />
embedded in her knee<br />
and washed the wound<br />
before wrapping it, yet<br />
their easy, chuckling<br />
rapport confounds a<br />
journalistic observation.<br />
Likewise, the reading of<br />
an ad-libbed book that<br />
took a whole morning to<br />
complete and filled the<br />
yard with gales of laughter<br />
is near intangible in<br />
its hilarity.<br />
Other scenes include<br />
the first night of the<br />
event. Many of the artists<br />
caroused late into the<br />
night, but Ryan had taken<br />
his leave to get some<br />
rest. We all followed<br />
him into the stage room,<br />
where he laid down,<br />
and we sang his praises<br />
on guitar. It made him<br />
smile, but as the night<br />
wore on, someone finally<br />
pointed out that he<br />
needed real sleep without<br />
being surrounded by<br />
acolytes.<br />
On the third night,<br />
Ryan received his first<br />
stick-and-poke tattoo<br />
from Blake, a member of<br />
performance art group<br />
Dumpster Cookies. The<br />
process of finding the<br />
thread, distilling the<br />
could not make it. Under<br />
Ryan’s direction, musicians<br />
collaborated with<br />
each other and utilized<br />
“Heartfelt farewells and wishes for<br />
safe travels ushered our departure. The<br />
glow of that experience remained luminous<br />
within me for months afterward.”<br />
pen ink, and finding a<br />
needle in the haystack<br />
of pleasantly inebriated<br />
attendees took an<br />
hour on its own. Dirt,<br />
of Pokin’ Holes, played<br />
guitar; I was responsible<br />
for holding the ink, and<br />
Blake carefully prodded<br />
a design into tattoo.<br />
Again, my narrative falls<br />
short to express the lively<br />
fraternization of these<br />
memories, but take my<br />
word: each experience<br />
overflowed with ecstatic<br />
conviviality uncommonly<br />
captured among<br />
artists.<br />
American Babylon<br />
did not occur without<br />
hitches, yet we all rose to<br />
meet the challenges. A<br />
moderate issue became<br />
band dropouts as several<br />
confirmed acts suddenly<br />
those freed spaces as a<br />
canvas for unique, experimental<br />
sets.<br />
Every day of music began<br />
at 4pm and lasted until<br />
midnight. For ninety<br />
percent of those sets,<br />
every single participant<br />
returned indoors to the<br />
blacked out and dimly<br />
lit room where Ryan and<br />
his co-conspirators set<br />
the stage. The missing<br />
ten percent caught a<br />
handful of people resting<br />
for short intervals. Sometimes<br />
dancing; sometimes<br />
cross-legged on<br />
the ground and swaying,<br />
everyone’s fierce appreciation<br />
for this singular<br />
event forged deep and<br />
impactful relationships.<br />
I say so on personal experience,<br />
and any of my<br />
party, and those friends<br />
that they made over<br />
those first four nights<br />
at American Babylon,<br />
would attest the same.<br />
By the time headliners<br />
rolled around, a workday’s<br />
worth of music<br />
carried the audience over<br />
the edge into a frenzy<br />
of dancing, arms ’round<br />
one another, laughing,<br />
singing along, and<br />
accidentally partying<br />
to the most thorough<br />
support of an impromptu<br />
collective that I have ever<br />
witnessed.<br />
For Ryan, the experience<br />
of orchestrating such a<br />
huge event catalyzed his<br />
own artistic ambitions.<br />
He said, “American Babylon<br />
was transformative<br />
for me. It taught me that<br />
I could put something<br />
grandiose together and<br />
pull it off. It also taught<br />
me that if you envision<br />
something and work towards<br />
it in earnest, it can<br />
manifest. This unwavering<br />
belief in manifestation<br />
has allowed me<br />
to organize other fests,<br />
tours, a magazine, and<br />
several albums under the<br />
Bitter, Inc. name. American<br />
Babylon exceeded<br />
my expectations. I look<br />
forward to doing it every<br />
year until I croak.”<br />
As we prepared to take<br />
our leave from Rocky<br />
Mount on a humid<br />
Thursday morning, like<br />
only the south knows,<br />
the imprints of our<br />
tents were overlapped<br />
by the weekend bands<br />
happily staking out for<br />
the latter half of American<br />
Babylon. Heartfelt<br />
farewells and wishes for<br />
safe travels ushered our<br />
departure. The glow of<br />
that experience remained<br />
luminous within me for<br />
months afterward. Even<br />
now, the inspiration of<br />
that dedicated collective<br />
is an uplifting thought<br />
when making new connections<br />
flounders due to<br />
self-interest.<br />
It is 2018 now. American<br />
Babylon: END TIMES<br />
revives from the ashes<br />
burned by Bitter, Inc. and<br />
JC Meyers on that last<br />
Sunday in May of 2017.<br />
It will be just a 3-day<br />
festival, but the essence<br />
remains the same. He<br />
explained the leaner<br />
mechanism of END<br />
TIMES for these reasons:<br />
“In the first year, a few<br />
artists cancelled last<br />
minute which created<br />
timing issues. Also, the<br />
sheer quantity of actsover<br />
80- made it difficult<br />
to pay everyone. In the<br />
end, we did make a<br />
decent amount of money,<br />
and every act received a<br />
check, but the funds were<br />
split up in so many ways<br />
that people received $16<br />
each. We also wanted to<br />
focus our energies more<br />
effectively. This year, it is<br />
a 3-day process with 33<br />
bands. It’ll be tighter, and<br />
each performer will walk<br />
away with a little more<br />
money.”<br />
The invitation to sleep in<br />
an open house, to play<br />
with old friends and<br />
carouse with new, to provide<br />
a haven for women,<br />
LBGQT, and POC artists,<br />
maintain the anarchistic<br />
spirit, and to, as Ryan<br />
O’Doud might say, “DO<br />
A GODDAMN THING!”<br />
is extended to all– so I<br />
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hope to see you there.<br />
American Babylon: END<br />
TIMES takes place at the<br />
Rocky Mount Unitarian<br />
Universalist Fellowship<br />
Church, June 7-9, 2018.<br />
Preparing for END<br />
TIMES is just one of<br />
many projects for Ryan.<br />
Aside from publishing<br />
a monthly zine, IS-<br />
SUES, Bitter, Inc. will<br />
be embarking on some<br />
mini-tours. Bitter, Inc.<br />
features Ryan O’Doud<br />
on vocals and Echo<br />
Redmond also on vocals<br />
and live sound manipulation.<br />
When I asked<br />
Ryan about the future of<br />
Bitter, Inc., he answered<br />
with plenty of big plans.<br />
“In April, Echo and I are<br />
touring to New England<br />
and hitting several cities<br />
on the way including<br />
Portland, ME, Norfolk,<br />
VA, and Burlington, VT.<br />
We are recording and<br />
performing songs from<br />
our upcoming fourth<br />
album (debuting at END<br />
TIMES): A Love Song<br />
(To the Apocalypse).<br />
We have another tour in<br />
May. We’ll be recording<br />
in Echo’s uncle’s place<br />
in Chicago; after that<br />
is END TIMES. This<br />
summer we are planning<br />
on doing a full US tour.<br />
Echo arranged for Bitter,<br />
Inc. to perform with a<br />
film installation artist<br />
named Amanda Beech.<br />
She’s going to record our<br />
performance in LA and<br />
edit it into some of her<br />
installations throughout<br />
the globe. It’s a great<br />
opportunity.<br />
To summarize, we’re<br />
working to get better at<br />
everything we do. We’re<br />
booking everywhere<br />
we can. We’re traveling,<br />
recording, and performing<br />
as much as possible.<br />
We love to make art for<br />
the people, and we hope<br />
to see you at a show<br />
sometime.”<br />
On a final note, Ryan<br />
generously named some<br />
influential and inspirational<br />
artists in his<br />
region. Some of these<br />
will be playing American<br />
Babylon: END<br />
TIMES. Others, like<br />
Ryan himself, will travel<br />
into Grand Rapids or the<br />
There’s a tumor in Kevin’s brain, and<br />
he’s sitting in the grass with his back<br />
against a<br />
boulder. He’s been watching the hawk<br />
circle through the same motion for<br />
hours: a figure eight,<br />
crossing over where it thinks the sun<br />
may be. Kevin wonders if he’ll see the<br />
sun again, and<br />
wonders if the hawk ever thinks the<br />
same. The sky is milky, it looks untouched.<br />
It’s convincing<br />
to Kevin that gray is how it should be.<br />
When Kevin was a child, he swore he’d<br />
never kill an<br />
Animal.<br />
Kevin looks at the wind and wishes he<br />
knew less about himself. Kevin would<br />
love to<br />
have the wings of the hawk and glide<br />
home. He wants nothing more than<br />
to lay his head on straw and stick and<br />
mismatched parts of the world. Kevin<br />
MISMATCH<br />
By Maria Mckee<br />
wonders about the family dog from<br />
way back when.<br />
“What about him?” Kevin asks out<br />
loud.<br />
Kevin has never felt anything unexpected<br />
or painful. He used to drink<br />
milk every day and<br />
wore suits on the Sabbath. His mother<br />
would call him handsome, his aunts<br />
pinched his cheeks.<br />
When Kevin looks up the trees pulse<br />
like wounds on his body. Can Kevin<br />
cry? He wiggles his<br />
fingers and opens his mouth, screeches<br />
as the hawk would.<br />
The hawk descends and Kevin’s been<br />
waiting, back against boulder shoes<br />
rimmed with<br />
mud and the gun has been ready for<br />
quite some time.<br />
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Proving Grounds:<br />
Sojii on the Perils<br />
& Triumphs of<br />
DIY Touring<br />
by: Zac Abid<br />
Grand Rapids self described “trench-funk” veterans Sojii are about<br />
to embark on a 5-week coast-to-coast DIY tour of the United States.<br />
Talking to the band, the tour feels like a culmination of sorts; or at<br />
least the next step towards something bigger. I talked to the band<br />
about what it takes for local musicians to execute a large-scale DIY<br />
tour.Sojii has embarked on ambitious tours before, often side-byside<br />
with fellow Grand Rapids punk band Ape Not Kill Ape, who<br />
are also joining them on this 5-week trek. Sojii have been to the east<br />
and west coasts, and most everywhere in between, but this is the<br />
biggest tour they’ve ever done by far. Of their next trip, guitarist-vocalist<br />
Valerie Salerno says, “we’re going to be playing almost every<br />
night…We’ve never played that much.” The band plans to head<br />
down along the East Coast into the Southwest, where the band will<br />
be stopping by SXSW. After that, the band will head for the West<br />
Coast, and then back through the Midwest before heading home.<br />
"Now that we have an album everthing<br />
is so much easier because people are<br />
like oh they're serious,"<br />
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It’s not easy to prep for a large-scale<br />
operation like this, but the band<br />
members have learned from previous<br />
smaller excursions the proper steps<br />
to take. “It’s like half money, and half<br />
mental,” drummer Donny Olin tells<br />
me. “The act of doing it is not challenging,<br />
it’s making sure that you<br />
are ready to go, because if you’re not<br />
ready to go, you’re not going to have<br />
a good time, or you’re going to run<br />
out of money and fuck yourself over<br />
somehow,” he adds. Money is a huge<br />
concern, and being ready can mean<br />
preparing months in advance. “We’re<br />
going for 5 weeks, which is an entire<br />
bill period basically, so you have to get<br />
all that shit squared away, water bill,<br />
rent, car insurance,” Olin continues.<br />
For bands thinking of making similar<br />
treks themselves, he suggests the $10<br />
rule. “You can get by in most parts of<br />
the United States on 10 bucks a day,<br />
and it’s a really good yardstick for you<br />
to use to be like oh my god, maybe I<br />
should slow down before I’m begging<br />
for change in Tulsa,” he adds.<br />
The band also have to prepare themselves<br />
mentally. For the inevitable<br />
downtime, Olin plans on doing a lot of<br />
reading. For musicians like Sojii and<br />
ANKA, listening to music is obviously<br />
a given. You also have to be mindful<br />
of the stress incurred by being stuck<br />
in a van with the same people for<br />
weeks on end. “I feel like the part that<br />
sometimes breaks people is the fact<br />
that Allen and Brett (drummer and<br />
guitarist of ANKA, respectively) are on<br />
hour 36 of Bob Dylan and the Band…<br />
We all obviously love Bob Dylan and<br />
the Band, but like, there’s something<br />
about a really high pitched harmonica<br />
at 3:30 in the morning,” Olin quips.<br />
‘If you’re in a car with somebody for a<br />
long time you’re gonna get pissed off<br />
at least once,” Salerno explains. Sojii<br />
understand that the occasional spat<br />
is inevitable, and that they try not to<br />
take anything to heart. “We’re all going<br />
through the same thing,” Olin says.<br />
It’s not all personal preparedness, however.<br />
The booking and organization of<br />
the tour are just as important. Salerno<br />
booked nearly all of the dates on this<br />
tour. “I used to book shit tours because<br />
I wasn’t that organized…. I’ve gotten<br />
so much better,” she explains. The key<br />
thing for organizing such a large-scale<br />
DIY tour is writing everything down.<br />
It looks like this, she says: “for every<br />
single date, keeping track of the steps<br />
you’ve taken… we have 36 dates so its<br />
like 36 different situations that I have<br />
to keep up on the steps of.” The process<br />
takes time. “I started booking this one<br />
4 months before the tour… and we’re<br />
still finishing up, we have 9 more dates<br />
to go. Today we got another one,” she<br />
continues. Salerno explains that the<br />
booking process for DIY shows isn’t<br />
so straightforward either. “It’s not all<br />
start looking and then get a date same<br />
day, or even in a couple days. A lot of<br />
its like ‘Who knows, I don’t know, talk<br />
to this guy,” she says. Often the process<br />
comes down to “relentlessly hounding<br />
people,” she adds with a laugh. Two<br />
things have helped ease this process,<br />
however. “Now that we have an album<br />
everything’s so much easier because<br />
people are like oh they’re serious,”<br />
Salerno explains. Another crucial<br />
factor has been having a press kit and<br />
a professional bio. “Almost 90% of the<br />
time I’ll get an answer back, and it<br />
used to be like, 30%,” This process has<br />
paid off, too. “This tour we’re getting<br />
really cool dates,” she tells me. The date<br />
the band is most excited about is a<br />
SXSW spillover show in San Antonio.<br />
“We’re the opener for the main band,<br />
like we play right before them,” she<br />
exclaims to her bandmates’ astonishment.<br />
Salerno points out that while it’s<br />
important to book solid shows, it’s<br />
also crucial to prepare for being on<br />
the road. “I have a whole itinerary…<br />
part of the organization is like, leaving<br />
times, when do we have to leave by this<br />
date… what’s the time zone change for<br />
that,” she explains. The band learned<br />
the importance of keeping track of<br />
time zones the hard way. Salerno<br />
recalls one instance in particular. She<br />
explains,”we didn’t factor in the time<br />
change from Denver to Davenport,<br />
Iowa so we were like fucking two<br />
hours late and we didn’t have bass<br />
strings.” Their solution was to call in<br />
a favor from the people hosting the<br />
show. “We had to call them and be<br />
like, can you guys go to Guitar Center?”<br />
Salerno says.<br />
Guitarist Danny<br />
Sein agrees on the importance of<br />
preparedness, but adds “I think it’s<br />
also okay when you’re not because<br />
like, once you start going … you just<br />
develop this kind of like family pack<br />
mentality.” Salerno concurs, adding,<br />
“you want to help them out, when one<br />
of us is broke the other one will step in<br />
and not let you starve. Financially and<br />
emotionally we support each other a<br />
lot.” While Salerno is the only original<br />
member of Sojii, she expresses that this<br />
lineup of the band has proved itself<br />
time and time again, both as a touring<br />
act and a recording act, but also as a<br />
group of people who can rely on one<br />
another. “I’ve been on tours before<br />
with people and the tour is how I find<br />
out that I shouldn’t be in a band with<br />
them,” She tells me. “I think our two<br />
week tour was make us or break us,<br />
because that was a show every day… I<br />
think two weeks is breaking point, and<br />
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"A tour is just fucking heaven for me,<br />
even if I don't have like a lot<br />
of money."<br />
I think now that we’re beyond that,<br />
we’re so close,” Salerno says.<br />
While the camaraderie shared among<br />
the members of Sojii is palpable, so is<br />
the relationship the band shares with<br />
ANKA. “They’re ride or die just like<br />
us,” Salerno tells me, adding, “we’re the<br />
little spoon to their big spoon.” I ask<br />
if that’s something they kept in mind<br />
as they’ve booked other bands across<br />
their tour. “Spooning?” She quips. The<br />
band mention Chicago punk band<br />
Drool. “They’re definitely our little<br />
spoon,” Salerno adds.<br />
Speaking to the band, the force that<br />
compels them is apparent. Of the thing<br />
that motivates him, Olin says, “It’s<br />
like a job… I don’t want to say a job<br />
because it’s nothing like a job, but it is<br />
like… it’s the same kind of dedication<br />
and it’s the same kind of ‘I need to<br />
do this’.” Describing her anticipation<br />
Salerno says, “that’s what’s so amazing<br />
about tour, that you’re with a bunch<br />
of people, you were all born for this…<br />
so like a tour is just fucking heaven<br />
for me, even if I don’t have like a lot<br />
of money. It’s just so exciting to wake<br />
up in a new place every day and get<br />
to meet new people and do what you<br />
love, and share your shit, to people<br />
who are interested… or not.”<br />
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Herm Baker Talks Vertigo Music<br />
& Inevitable Retirement<br />
by: Zac Abid<br />
If you’ve ever talked to the man most often behind the counter of Grand Rapids’ Vertigo<br />
Music, you may have found someone who’s friendly, affable, and extremely knowledgeable<br />
of music. This man, Herm Baker has been a quiet force within the Grand Rapids music<br />
scene for decades. Interviewing Herm Baker reveals a personality not necessarily betrayed<br />
by his easy-going demeanor, one that is both hard-headed, observant, and clever, a personality<br />
that has allowed him to maintain his business even as the musical and economic<br />
landscape has remained in flux around him. Despite these circumstances, Herm Baker has<br />
managed to forge Vertigo Music into West Michigan’s premier record shop.<br />
When asked what led him to try his hand at the music business he tells me, “same thing<br />
as you… voracious consumption of newer music.” Baker explains, “the music we liked we<br />
couldn’t find in Grand Rapids… We wanted a store that had more underground stuff in it.”<br />
This was in 1986, when Baker’s first record store Vinyl Solution, opened at its first location<br />
on South Division Avenue. “We started off as a vinyl store,” he says, one that always stocked<br />
smaller indie punk records. When the CD format took off the store “kind of morphed into a<br />
bigger thing,” he says. “CDs really dominated.” The store’s business grew so substantially that<br />
they relocated to a larger location on the corner of 28th and Breton. Vinyl Solution had its<br />
biggest year ever in 1995, doing $1.6 million in sales largely on the back of its CD stock. This<br />
success was short-lived, however. By 1999, Vinyl Solution had been put out of business by<br />
larger retailers like Best Buy.<br />
The years leading up to Vinyl Solution’s demise were hard on Herm Baker. Just coming off<br />
a divorce, the end of Vinyl Solution saw Baker go bankrupt and lose his home. “One of my<br />
darkest years on Earth… all hope and self-confidence had been beaten out of me” he recalls.<br />
Improbably though, Baker was back in business by the next year. Vertigo Music opened in<br />
2000, only a block away from its present day direction. While Baker admits he did consider<br />
moving on from the music business, his stubbornness kept him in the game. Baker was<br />
unhappy with the way that Vinyl Solution ended: “It did not end on my terms,” he says. He<br />
is determined to not let his new store suffer the same fate as his former one.<br />
In the wake of Vinyl Solution’s end, Baker saw the opportunity to reinvent his business. He<br />
kicked off Vertigo Music by buying the remainder of Vinyl Solution’s inventory back from<br />
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the bankruptcy court, but that’s where the similarities end. He moved his business away<br />
from the suburbs and onto Division Avenue, which put it much nearer to the colleges and<br />
Heritage Hill area. Baker hoped that his store’s vicinity to these neighborhoods would attract<br />
the kind of people he had originally entered the music business to serve: young people<br />
with voracious appetites for music. Moving his business to Division also allowed him to<br />
decrease the overhead costs of running his business by spending less money on rent. Baker<br />
also cut back by living on next to nothing himself.<br />
Baker’s strategy worked; Vertigo moved to its current location a few years later to decrease<br />
operating costs even further, and he found that he and his business were getting by. At<br />
the time, Vertigo was still banking on CDs. However, he remembers ten years ago “there<br />
was one distinct Christmas where I remember a bunch of kids were looking at vinyl, and<br />
I thought we need to get in front of this… I saw what the Corner Record Shop was doing,<br />
and I said lets be that store that has that new indie rock vinyl.” Baker has consistently been<br />
ramping up the store’s vinyl selection since then. When the store opened it had around 2000<br />
new and used vinyl records. Currently, the store boasts about 26,000 new records alone. It is<br />
this shift towards vinyl that has allowed Vertigo to survive the decline of the CD and the rise<br />
of digital music platforms like iTunes as well as streaming services like Spotify. Baker says<br />
the LP offers a visual appeal due to its size that CDs and digital products cannot compete<br />
with. “It’s aesthetically pleasing, and it sounds great if you have a good turntable,” Baker<br />
says. “It’s just a better package than CDs.”<br />
While Herm Baker still loves music, he admits “The fires have dimmed… a bit.” He says<br />
there’s music coming out today that he loves, “but not like how I loved when I was 23 years<br />
old.” Baker has other aspirations in life as well. “At some point I’d like to get away from<br />
this… I’d like to travel,” he explains. He sees that at this point in his career, his time at Vertigo<br />
is likely to end sooner rather than later. “I’d love to sell the store to somebody and slowly<br />
transition it over a period of a year, or two years maybe,” he reveals. Unlike Vinyl Solution,<br />
Baker is determined to end Vertigo Music on his terms, and as long as Vertigo remains<br />
Grand Rapids go-to record store, he seems poised to do just that.<br />
My sister pockets dead robins,<br />
lets ant-infested insides fall deep into her.<br />
I watch flies swarm her midsection and pray<br />
over the oozing of death.<br />
How to<br />
Say<br />
Amen<br />
By Maria mckee<br />
You are not like them, I’ve told myself<br />
most days since the last fly dropped<br />
to her feet. She is more than a shrine,<br />
more than a collector of matted feathers and keratin<br />
smudged with blood and Catholic school plaid.<br />
But at night I sneak into her closet,<br />
weave baskets out of blood vessels,<br />
sink my teeth into whicker fibers<br />
that collect dust between each crevice.<br />
I press my forehead to the sticky remains of a rotting bird,<br />
wash my feet clean of sin.<br />
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The Death Of<br />
The Death House<br />
By Guadalupe Olgine Jr.<br />
The Death House. You know, that<br />
dingy, dark and raw but unequivocally<br />
most popular underground GR music<br />
venue that had a fucking skating ramp<br />
in it. I covered this gem almost 2 years<br />
ago, but wasn’t technically “allowed” to<br />
talk about it. Until now. Because the<br />
Death House is now, well, dead. And<br />
to quote the 2013 album title of Drake,<br />
the human pudding popsicle himself,<br />
“Nothing Was The Same.”<br />
So we decided to put this out and<br />
revisit a time when I hit up local<br />
GR bar The Meanwhile with the last<br />
two people involved with The Death<br />
House. We discussed in detail what<br />
was actually happened with The Death<br />
House, and clicked-and-clanked over<br />
rap, race, and dranks. (Circa 2016)<br />
In 1929 Author and Poet Frigyes<br />
Karinthy popularized the 6 degrees<br />
of separation theory with his novel,<br />
Chains. We are all connected by less<br />
than 6 steps, or “chains” of interaction.<br />
Tell anybody in West Michigan and<br />
they will easily say “cut that number<br />
in half.” Seemingly everyone knows<br />
someone who knows everyone; we’re<br />
all connected in strange ways. For<br />
most people here, it’s something<br />
petty, like, “Yeah, they work at (insert<br />
mediocre craft brewery here).” For<br />
myself and my interviewees, the chain<br />
is rooted in the local music scene.<br />
Dante Cope, a fixture in Grand Rapids<br />
hip hop since Myspace was a thing,<br />
co-founded a recording studio that I<br />
ended up working at years later while<br />
he pursued other endeavors. I met<br />
Brandon Sykes because he ended up<br />
taking my room in a house I vacated.<br />
“Oh yeah, he raps too”, I explicitly remember<br />
my old roommates telling me<br />
whenever I came back to stomp them<br />
on 2k. “Cool,” I nonchalantly replied,<br />
as 70% of my friends are rappers. I later<br />
went to a show he performed at and<br />
immediately regretted my initial indifference.<br />
“You were right,” I declared.<br />
“This dude raps.“<br />
Dante Cope is no stranger to the hustle.<br />
Besides constantly creating music<br />
for himself, he has also produced and<br />
engineered for countless other artists.<br />
He promotes shows for his Beat<br />
Suite series, as well as who ever he is<br />
bringing in at The Death House, but<br />
more on that later. Despite all that,<br />
it seems as in 2016 he’s been a man<br />
possessed. He recently returned from<br />
New York assisting GR Poet Fable with<br />
his Mental Health Awareness speakings.<br />
Earlier this year he was in Flint,<br />
assisting residents with the water crisis.<br />
On any given night in the city you can<br />
catch him rapping at Eastown venue<br />
staples Billy’s or Mulligan’s, playing<br />
sax at Founders or Pyramid Scheme,<br />
or jamming out with a 7 piece band at<br />
Mexicains Sans Frontieres. All while<br />
continuously dropping #truthbombs all<br />
over Facebook, ruffling feathers with<br />
statements such as “in America everyone<br />
is born a slave. You have to buy<br />
your freedom.” Or, “most artists in this<br />
city shouldn’t call themselves as such”.<br />
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First and foremost, formal introduct…”Dante<br />
mother fuckin’ Cope, and<br />
motha fuckin’ Sykes.” “Yup, Brandon<br />
Sykes!” Between the two of them I can<br />
hardly get my questions in. “ I do rap<br />
music for rap heads, jazz music, for<br />
jazz heads, and music for anti-fuckboys”<br />
states Cope. Sykes has a more<br />
bookish approach; “I do Lit-Hop. LIT,<br />
DASH, HOP, not hip-hop, Lit-Hop, I<br />
do that shit.”<br />
I fire off my first question: “Do you<br />
guys feel like Dutch white people and<br />
solely Dutch white people run this<br />
city?”<br />
Sykes answers first: “Gentrification is<br />
funny as fuck. You wanna go somewhere,<br />
and take it over, and the people<br />
that were already there, don’t act<br />
they’re foreign, of course. So, like, you<br />
got people coming in from the country<br />
and from the suburbs…” and Cope<br />
can’t help but point out the obvious:<br />
“Right now there’s a white chick walking<br />
a little ass dog, down Wealthy St. 5<br />
years ago, that shit wouldn’t happen.<br />
Sykes cuts back in to say “It’s not about<br />
that, though, it’s about the treatment.<br />
They treat us like we’re the foreigners<br />
when in all actuality we’ve been here<br />
the whole time. It’s really…” As the<br />
bartender approaches I cut them off to<br />
buy drinks, “what do you guys want?”<br />
Cope: NOT Tequila<br />
JR: Tequila? “3 shots of Tequila”<br />
Cope: No he said NOT Tequila.<br />
Sykes: You almost had me fucked up!<br />
I order three shots of fireball, we clink,<br />
tap, and drink.<br />
Speaking of Death House, I know<br />
that’s your guys’ joint venture, a fan<br />
favorite of locals. How did you guys<br />
link up for that?<br />
Cope: “I knew the punk (rockers) that<br />
had it before, and nobody else really<br />
jumped on it… kinda fell into our lap.<br />
We just wanted to bring live-ass shows<br />
in a different type of setting.”<br />
Sykes: “You got the bar shows out here,<br />
and those shows be wack, well not<br />
wack, but weird. Cuz Everyone that<br />
performs is trying not to piss off the<br />
venues, or the owners, so it’s not about<br />
the music first.”<br />
I know that both of you, especially you,<br />
Sykes, have rocked plenty of stages in<br />
Detroit, lately. I’ve lived all over this<br />
state. I’ve found the “east side” doesn’t<br />
even consider it as such, it’s just Michigan,<br />
while here in GR everyone is so<br />
determined to separate themselves, as<br />
“West Michigan“. Do you feel a divide?<br />
Sykes: “It’s open season messing with<br />
Detroit artists that come here and<br />
vice-versa. It’s dope going over there<br />
and messing with some legendary<br />
artists. Sometimes people here are<br />
passive-aggressive.”<br />
Cope: “That’s the main thing.”<br />
Sykes: “They’re about movement. They<br />
won’t stand there your whole set, cross<br />
their arms, nod their heads, then tell<br />
you “you’re dope” after you get off<br />
stage. If they think you’re dope, you’re<br />
gonna feel it. It’s not the, uncomfortable,<br />
lean against a wall and look at me<br />
funny then tell me 20 minutes later I’m<br />
dope. That’s not cool.. I mean, it’s cool,<br />
but..”<br />
Cope: “Grand Rapids is conservative.”<br />
*laughs* Sykes is outnumbered (as a<br />
GR native).<br />
Point being, you guys have ran<br />
through a multitude of shows through<br />
numerous scenes, and cities. There’s<br />
no mistaking The Death House is<br />
a culmination of sorts exhibiting<br />
those experiences. Do you feel you’ve<br />
accomplished what you want to, with<br />
this endeavor?<br />
Cope: “There’s a lot more political<br />
work to do.. like Detroit has a bunch of<br />
underground venues. In Grand Rapids<br />
you can count them all on one hand<br />
type shit. The city doesn’t embrace it.<br />
It’s not the people. It’s the actual city<br />
that doesn’t embrace it.<br />
I feel like you guys have done well with<br />
the Death House. Lots of people have<br />
been there. I’d say even more don’t<br />
know where it is, but have definitely<br />
heard about it. You’ve kept things<br />
pretty low key, to the point where you<br />
almost didn’t even want to be interviewed<br />
about it. Is this all for a reason?<br />
Cope: “Yeah, that was on purpose.<br />
And that’s why we’re shutting it down.<br />
Because A, too many people have been<br />
putting the address out online, B, everytime<br />
we do a show, some young cats<br />
break somethin’, or fuck up somethin’.”<br />
People don’t know how to act.<br />
Cope: “See… motha fuckas just don’t<br />
appreciate shit. Even before we got it,<br />
they were doing mad punk shows, and<br />
none of them hit us up after we took<br />
over. They never ask to book a show,<br />
they never ask to do shit.”<br />
Do you think it’s a jealousy issue, or a<br />
fuckboy issue?<br />
Sykes: “It’s cuz we’re black, dude.”<br />
Cope: “I think it’s a politics issue and<br />
race issue. People in West Michigan<br />
are just gonna do some shit they’re<br />
used to doing all the time.”<br />
How will you guys remember this<br />
experience, running your own venue,<br />
“Detroit has a bunch<br />
of underground venues.<br />
In Grand Rapids<br />
you can count them<br />
all on one hand type<br />
shit. The city doesn’t<br />
embrace it. It’s not the<br />
people. It’s the actual<br />
city that doesn’t embrace<br />
it.”<br />
throwing your own shows, when bars<br />
and clubs around town wouldn’t let<br />
you?<br />
Sykes: “WE MADE SHIT LIT!”<br />
Cope: (laughs) “Shit was lit. But<br />
now I’m just focused on music, and<br />
putting out all these projects for The<br />
Dante Cope Experience. I have some<br />
shows coming up as well, May 14th<br />
at Mulligan’s, and in July we’re gonna<br />
do the Vinyl release for Vivat Lupas at<br />
Founders.”<br />
I actually wanted to touch on that<br />
record, which, in my opinion was<br />
vastly underrated, dare I say slept-on.<br />
It’s a record that, sonically, is all over<br />
the place. Do you feel GR has it’s own<br />
sound, or are you trying to create one?<br />
Cope: “Grand Rapids doesn’t have<br />
a sound, but that’s why the music is<br />
good here. I have my sound, Sykes has<br />
his sound, Rick Chyme sounds totally<br />
different, we have WuZee, and it’s all<br />
GR. We have diversity.”<br />
That’s why I was initially surprised<br />
to see you and Sykes collab, you guys<br />
have completely different styles.<br />
Cope: “The music brings everybody<br />
together. Even our band, our band has<br />
a bunch of different people from dif-<br />
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ferent eras. Hugo is older, he’s seen like<br />
multiple eras of art in the city, underground<br />
venues and that. Then we got<br />
Ari, who’s young, knows a bunch of<br />
stuff that I don’t even know about. It’s<br />
all about the music.”<br />
Any new projects we should be on the<br />
lookout for?<br />
Sykes: “Well I just re-branded myself<br />
as Belve, so be on the lookout for that,<br />
also the Belve and SEVENth joint, I got<br />
a couple tracks with Nick Speed out of<br />
Detroit, a producer, fuckin’ dope. He’s<br />
worked with Danny Brown, 50 Cent,<br />
Lloyd Banks. I also just worked with<br />
L.A.Z. of Clear Soul Forces, they’re<br />
dope as fuck, be on the lookout for<br />
everything, I’m sitting on bombs right<br />
now.”<br />
Cope, are your feet permanently rooted<br />
in GR or are you do you aspire to<br />
move anywhere?<br />
Cope: “I dunno yet. I may move to<br />
New York. I’m going to NY with Fable<br />
the first week of May, that’s coming up<br />
soon.”<br />
Do you feel like you’re at the crux of<br />
your career? You’re young enough to<br />
do anything but also at that age where<br />
a re-invention could be too late. It’s a<br />
tricky spot.<br />
Cope: “I’ve done everything I could (in<br />
GR). I’ve performed in every venue..<br />
if I’m here, I’m helping out the scene<br />
more than it’s helping me.”<br />
I feel like a lot of artists do that, but it’s<br />
not necessarily by choice.<br />
Cope: “Yeah, and if I stay here, it’s by<br />
choice. There’s a lot of dope artists in<br />
the city coming up, that don’t have<br />
an outlet, or don’t know how to put<br />
their stuff out because the city has no<br />
infrastructure. There’s no ‘this is how<br />
you do shit here’.”<br />
Do you still produce for others?<br />
Cope: “Very rarely. I produced for<br />
Rosewood, there’s gonna be another<br />
Brickstreet Project coming out soon, I<br />
produce for Suport, and that’s about it.<br />
There’s one other artist I produce for<br />
but I can’t tell you who that is.”<br />
Wale?<br />
Cope: It’s Future. I’m producing for<br />
Future. If Metro Boomin’ don’t trust<br />
you, I’m gonna shoot you.<br />
I know you engineer, is that strictly for<br />
yourself?<br />
Cope: “I do that for a couple people,<br />
but that’s not what I’m trying to do. I<br />
recently moved into a new space, and<br />
actually I’m not even trying to engineer<br />
for myself anymore. So like, my<br />
roommate owns one of the best studios<br />
in Grand Rapids. I’m trying to have<br />
him record my stuff now. We recorded<br />
the Extra Texture album together, so<br />
I’ve worked with him before. Put this<br />
on record, Dante Cope is recording<br />
at least 3 of those 8 (aforementioned)<br />
albums at Amber Lit Studios. Awesome<br />
shit.”<br />
Anyways, now you essentially live with<br />
a bunch of musicians as roommates.<br />
Do you feel like that helps cultivate<br />
your music at all?<br />
Cope: “That’s the plan.”<br />
Editors Notes:<br />
Since the last interview, Belve has since<br />
moved to SW Detroit, where he says<br />
no one is afraid of Pit Bulls there but<br />
him. He’s recently become a first time<br />
father and his new album BELVE is<br />
out now. The official music video for<br />
“Crem De La Crem” by Belve featuring<br />
The SEVENth, on Belve’s 2017 self titled<br />
EP, available on all major streaming<br />
platforms.<br />
Since the interview, Dante Cope has<br />
been kept in full grind mode with<br />
his 6 piece fusion Jazz and Hip-Hop<br />
band, Les Créatif. Check out Cope’s<br />
DEEP BLUES, off his brilliant and<br />
latest release Jasmine in the Brave New<br />
World. Available on Spotify, iTunes,<br />
and bandcamp.<br />
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Cant<br />
Stand<br />
The<br />
Midwest<br />
Erik Nervous – Assorted Anxieties LP (Neck Chop/ Drunken Sailor)<br />
Erik Nervous is from Shipshewana, but relocated to Kalamazoo to attend college.<br />
While most bands tend to take time to find their sound, Erik knew exactly what<br />
he wanted to sound like when he began recording. New-wave influenced punk<br />
songs for people with a short attention span. A genre stupidly called “Devo-core,”<br />
for people still mourning the loss of bands like CCTV and THE CONEHEADS.<br />
He has released material on many different labels, including TOTAL PUNK,<br />
NECK CHOP, DRUNKEN SAILOR, and DISCONTINUOUS INNOVATION.<br />
Keep in mind, he plays every instrument on each of his releases.<br />
Finally, we have Assorted Anxieties, a collection of all of his material to date and<br />
an unreleased track. I’m pleased to have the long player, because I was honestly<br />
getting tired of flipping over his 7” releases repeatedly, due to the addictive<br />
nature of his short but perfect punk songs.Themes of boredom, working mundane<br />
jobs, and having no money, which most people can relate to. If you haven’t<br />
already heard of him, he must be the best kept secret in the midwest. He will be<br />
back on tour this year with DATE NIGHT from Nashville. Live setup includes a<br />
full band which features Jeff Mahannah on drums, who is known for his artwork<br />
(EAT TO SURVIVE) and perfect timing. They will be playing in Grand Rapids<br />
on August 18th along with THE RESOURCE NETWORK, DATENIGHT, and<br />
LOST SYSTEM.<br />
By: Michael McFarlane<br />
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Dark Thoughts – At Work LP (Drunken<br />
Sailor/ Stupid Bags)<br />
I am not going to lie to you. I hate<br />
almost every pop-punk band I have<br />
heard. Even saying the name of the<br />
genre leaves a bad taste in my mouth,<br />
but to each their own…I guess. DARK<br />
THOUGHTS, a trio based in Philadelphia,<br />
are the one and only exception<br />
for me. “At Work” is their second<br />
album released by Stupid Bag Records,<br />
label which is ran by former Grand<br />
Rapids resident Jeff Bolt, who now<br />
lives in Philly.<br />
He has also done some Radiator<br />
Hospital releases, if that’s your thing.<br />
There is clearly a RAMONES influence<br />
to Dark Thoughts songs, but they find<br />
a way to make it their own instead of<br />
trying to recreate arguably the most<br />
well known punk band’s songs. This<br />
Philadelphia trio uses the same formula<br />
from their first LP, and produces<br />
another album that should be the<br />
soundtrack to your summer. Oh yeah,<br />
their album cover also resembles THE<br />
RAMONES second LP Leave Home,<br />
which means you could say they wear<br />
their influences on their (record)<br />
sleeve.<br />
Sex Tourists – S/T LP (Drunken Sailor)<br />
I am always impressed by the amount<br />
of incredibly talented post-punk<br />
bands that reside in Australia. TOTAL<br />
CONTROL, LOW LIFE, THE SHIFT-<br />
ERS, ORION, I could keep going, Sex<br />
Tourists are my new favorite. This album<br />
was actually released in 2017 but<br />
now has been repressed by DRUNKEN<br />
SAILOR due to popular demand. It<br />
reminds me of NEW ORDER, especially<br />
in their peak era (think Power,<br />
Corruptions, Lies). The songs are very<br />
catchy, driven by synths and drum<br />
machines, but also have a melancholy<br />
feel once the vocals come in. Songs<br />
about disconnect, that feel more relevant<br />
than ever in a society that is so<br />
connected by our smart phones that it<br />
seems like real life conversation is a dying<br />
art. Summed up best by their song<br />
“Guts”: “I’m staring at my phone, the<br />
signal tells me that I’m all alone.” This<br />
will sell out, so go buy a copy while you<br />
still can.<br />
Aquarium – S/T LP (LUMPY)<br />
Debut album from the Minneapolis<br />
band AQUARIUM, released on<br />
LUMPY RECORDS. It’s obvious at this<br />
point, that anything Lumpy (frontman<br />
of Lumpy & The Dumpers) puts out,<br />
should be on your radar. This is right<br />
up there with all of my other favorite<br />
releases and if you don’t know who I’m<br />
referring to, well, do your homework.<br />
Aquarium creates infectious, quick<br />
punk songs that will keep you coming<br />
back to this record. The vocalist sings<br />
in German, which may sound odd but<br />
the delivery is always on point and it<br />
makes this band stand out even more.<br />
Their drummer is also in URANIUM<br />
CLUB, which is one of my favorite<br />
bands coining the new wave punk<br />
sound since THE CONEHEADS or<br />
CCTV. For fans of the Jimmy Youtube<br />
Channel, which is now back with a<br />
new name of ANTI. One of the best<br />
places to keep up on weirdo punk.<br />
Stand out track for me has been “Hospital”<br />
which reminds me of the band<br />
PATSY -who released one of the best<br />
12’s last year.<br />
Gen Pop – (2) 7” (Feel It)<br />
One of Olympia’s finest bands, GEN<br />
POP, is back with their second 7” on<br />
FEEL IT RECORDS. Their first 7” also<br />
came out on LUMPY RECORDS,.<br />
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That’s a hell of a start for a new band,<br />
and two labels that I constantly keep<br />
up with. Gen Pop’s ability to switch<br />
tempos at the drop of a dime, along<br />
with the ability to cover several genres<br />
while retaining punk roots, makes<br />
this record very satisfying. Even when<br />
you think, “oh this must be their slow<br />
song,” they blast back into a frenetic<br />
riff with the rhythm section relentlessly<br />
keeping pace, leaving the listener disoriented<br />
and ready for more. I’m ready<br />
for a full length, myself.<br />
Gen Pop – (2) 7” (Feel It)<br />
One of Olympia’s finest bands, GEN<br />
POP, is back with their second 7” on<br />
FEEL IT RECORDS. Their first 7” also<br />
came out on LUMPY RECORDS,.<br />
That’s a hell of a start for a new band,<br />
and two labels that I constantly keep<br />
up with. Gen Pop’s ability to switch<br />
tempos at the drop of a dime, along<br />
with the ability to cover several genres<br />
while retaining punk roots, makes<br />
this record very satisfying. Even when<br />
you think, “oh this must be their slow<br />
song,” they blast back into a frenetic<br />
riff with the rhythm section relentlessly<br />
keeping pace, leaving the listener disoriented<br />
and ready for more. I’m ready<br />
for a full length, myself.<br />
Chain Cvlt – Demo MLP 12” (La Vida<br />
Es Un Mus)<br />
Chain Cult is a post-punk trio from<br />
Athens, Greece. Their demo tape sold<br />
out so quickly, that it’s already been<br />
pressed to vinyl by the best label in<br />
the business: LA VIDA ES UN MUS.<br />
Post-punk is sometimes hard to define,<br />
which is why the genre has always been<br />
fascinating to me. Chain Cult creates<br />
urgent and energetic post-punk, in<br />
the style of WARSAW. The bass lines<br />
set the tone for each song, along with<br />
sharp guitar lines, and pissed off<br />
vocals. Songs such as “State of Fear,”<br />
“Black Hole,” and “Lost Signal” take a<br />
hard look at the current state of world<br />
we now live in. “We are in a state of<br />
fear, It seems so far but it’s very near.”<br />
Blink and the demo is over before you<br />
know it.<br />
Vile Spirit – Demo cassette (Quality<br />
Control)<br />
After my favorite hardcore band ANX-<br />
IETY broke up recently, I was hoping<br />
to find another UK band that could<br />
match their intensity. VILE SPIRIT<br />
is here to fill the void. Only a demo<br />
tape to their name, made up of four<br />
songs but as far as demos go, this is<br />
on another level. Every time I put this<br />
tape on, somebody asks “who’s this?”<br />
I’ve found this to be a very good test to<br />
see if something will stand the test of<br />
time, or just be shuffled in with the rest<br />
of the music I’ve bought lately. This is<br />
absolutely brutal hardcore, not for the<br />
faint of heart. They beat you down with<br />
every track, and never slow down. Lyrically,<br />
the four songs show the vocalist<br />
self-destructing, contemplating past<br />
relationships, unable to relate to people<br />
he knows, and taking everyone down<br />
with him.<br />
Litchics – Mating Surfaces LP (Kill<br />
Rock Stars)<br />
Lithics are from Portland and make<br />
the kind of post-punk that seems<br />
to be thriving in the underground<br />
punk scene. For fans of SHOPPING,<br />
GAUCHE, and THE WORLD, but<br />
for me, they are easily the best of this<br />
group. That’s not to take anything away<br />
from the bands I mentioned before<br />
them, they are all incredible. If you<br />
haven’t heard any of these bands, well<br />
it’s time to change that. Maybe a better<br />
reference to older bands would be AU<br />
PAIRS or KLEENEX. That’s for you<br />
to decide. Minimalistic perfection on<br />
guitar, combined with a tight rhythm<br />
section and detached vocals. What<br />
more do you need?<br />
Snob – S/T LP (La Vida Es Un Mus)<br />
It’s crazy to me that Snob has existed<br />
since 2014 and have only self-released<br />
two 7”s. Well the full length released<br />
by the Disco Punk label LVEUM was<br />
well worth the wait. This has been by<br />
far my favorite release so far this year.<br />
Tense hardcore that is made up angry,<br />
snotty vocals, frantic guitar riffs, and<br />
a rhythm section that is going to beat<br />
you up from start to finish. The lyrics<br />
stand out the most for me, short and<br />
sweet, but tackling social issues in a<br />
clever, sometimes humorous way.<br />
Beta Blockers – Stiff Prescription (Static<br />
Shock)<br />
Beta Blockers create the kind of fast<br />
paced hardcore music I love, mixed<br />
with industrial elements that only add<br />
to the chaos. The debut LP from this<br />
Leeds/ Sheffield band might not be<br />
an easy one to stomach for the average<br />
listener. Seven songs clocking in<br />
at a mere eighteen minutes, the kind<br />
of basement set that leaves everyone<br />
yearning for more. Beta Blockers<br />
consist of members of THE FLEX, NO<br />
FORM, WHIPPING POST and COM-<br />
MUNITY. I could try to describe this<br />
band by telling you it’s a bizarre combination<br />
of two bands you might already<br />
know, but instead I am just going to<br />
say this is by far one of the best new<br />
hardcore bands I’ve heard in awhile.<br />
STATIC SHOCK records from London<br />
never disappoints, consistently putting<br />
out the best current bands. Limited<br />
pressing of 300 on white vinyl, get your<br />
hands on this one if you still can.<br />
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i think that this summer<br />
will be really really really<br />
something to write home about.<br />
maybe i’ll wear some purple sweatpants or win a can of baked beans<br />
MY VERSION OF AWESOME KARATE IS JUST EATING<br />
POPCORN ALONE IN A SEWER WITH MY DAD’S OLD<br />
CATCHER’S MITT FOR A BOWL<br />
for guessing correctly<br />
about just how miserable i am.<br />
sometimes i look at my wife’s new idea<br />
about how to sell life insurance<br />
to dead turtles and think<br />
“okay i get it. we’re not a real couple.<br />
so let’s just divide up our lawn full of dandelions civilly<br />
like a herd of muskrats would.”<br />
actually, we’ve never met.<br />
actually, she’s just someone i saw on a hair care commercial<br />
when i was bored and sad and lonely, so i said<br />
Kyle Flak likes tall emus and sparkly shoehorns. He often performs<br />
his poems while covered in waffle syrup. His most recent book is<br />
called I am Sorry for Everything in the Whole Entire Universe (Gold<br />
Wake Press, 2017). Some of his poems have been in jubilat, Mudfish,<br />
Poetry East, Spinning Jenny, Whiskey Island, and various other literary<br />
magazines. He wants to become a pinball machine or an oak tree.<br />
His next book is supposed to come out sometime in the year 2019.<br />
“okay, we’re married now.”<br />
then i fell asleep on my little bean bag chair from fourth grade<br />
and don’t remember what all happened after that, so<br />
probably i am dying from many horrible things right now<br />
like: enthusiasm for yo yos, pajama deficiency, hot air balloon drama,<br />
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and goat envy.<br />
i might wanna look all that up<br />
on the speed stick deodorant website later on<br />
to see if there’s a kind of deodorant that can cure me.<br />
but also, i’m allergic to all good things.<br />
that is, i’ve never had quote “a good thing goin’” unquote.<br />
i don’t drive convertibles down to the beach<br />
and lick ice cream cones mischievously<br />
while suggestively petting my own moustache.<br />
actually this is a love poem<br />
for a very tiny stapler i once met.<br />
one of those little tiny baby staplers.<br />
the kind that always get lost in backpacks<br />
or just thrown out<br />
on the last day of school.<br />
“who needs this?”<br />
“oh! me! me! me!”<br />
“okay, in the trash with you!”<br />
and then it’s all over:<br />
this poem, other poems, romance,<br />
maybe life itself<br />
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Contributors<br />
Zac Abid<br />
Jess Kwiatkowski<br />
Michael McFarlane<br />
Guadalupe Olgine Jr.<br />
Photographers<br />
Zac Abid<br />
Jenna Pewarchie<br />
a Note of<br />
THANKS<br />
<strong>Skip</strong><strong>Fiction</strong> is bigger than any one person. A lot of<br />
hands and heads help to do what we do every step<br />
along the way. From writers to photographers to<br />
designers, everyone in the community has taught us<br />
something along the way, and all the artists who their<br />
art - the reason we’re here in the first place.<br />
These are the people that helped us<br />
create this issue.<br />
Featured Musicians<br />
Sojii<br />
Wing Vilma<br />
Dante Cope<br />
Belve<br />
Featured Poets<br />
Kyle Flak<br />
Maria McKee<br />
<strong>Zine</strong> Designer<br />
Jenna Pewarchie<br />
Editors<br />
Schyler Perkins<br />
John Akers<br />
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