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INTER-<br />

2018<br />

SKIPFICTION ZINE<br />

LUDE<br />

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Letter<br />

From The<br />

Editor<br />

content<br />

4<br />

8<br />

15<br />

16<br />

An Interview With Miles Coleman<br />

AKA Wing Vilma<br />

American babylon: snapshots of<br />

A diy festival<br />

Mismatch<br />

Proving Grounds Sojii on the Perils<br />

& Triumphs of DIY Touring<br />

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How to say amen<br />

Herm Baker Talks Vertigo Music<br />

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An Interview<br />

With Miles<br />

Coleman<br />

AKA Wing<br />

Vilma<br />

By: Zac Abid<br />

Miles Coleman’s Wing<br />

Vilma project has been<br />

a long-time staple of<br />

the Grand Rapids music<br />

scene, at least for me.<br />

Wing Vilma performs<br />

a heavily layered,<br />

groove-driven form of<br />

electronic music, that<br />

never sacrifices its sense<br />

of wonder as its strives<br />

to create dense, mystical<br />

soundscapes. It’s also<br />

nice to hear exceptional<br />

electronic music in<br />

a scene so populated<br />

by rock bands. Miles<br />

released his first album<br />

as Wing Vilma, Safe By<br />

Night, this past February.<br />

Since then, Miles<br />

has been incredibly<br />

active musically and<br />

personally. I talked to<br />

Miles about his album<br />

release and recent tour,<br />

as well as moving to<br />

Detroit and working<br />

for music label Young<br />

Heavy Souls.<br />

So you released your debut<br />

album Safe by Night,<br />

on Young Heavy Souls in<br />

February. I’ve watched<br />

your project grow for<br />

a while now, and this<br />

is a long time coming<br />

for you. Do you want to<br />

tell me a little bit about<br />

what it was like to make<br />

this record, and how you<br />

feel about its reception?<br />

Miles Coleman: “So this<br />

record was really something<br />

I’ve been working<br />

on for… 2 or 3 years.<br />

I was sitting down one<br />

day about a year ago to<br />

look through what I’d<br />

made and try and figure<br />

out what was going to<br />

become “Wing Vilma”…<br />

I realized I had a whole<br />

record. Without thinking<br />

about it too much I<br />

had created something<br />

pretty comprehensive<br />

and expressive of the my<br />

influences at the time.<br />

There was a long time<br />

where I rejected the<br />

idea of including music<br />

I’d made with vocals in<br />

my electronic projects,<br />

but as I realized I was<br />

trying to find a new title<br />

for my work I realized it<br />

didn’t make sense to put<br />

limitations on what this<br />

project can be.<br />

“Wing Vilma” as a title<br />

is sourced from the<br />

mind of a child, and I<br />

want the music to reflect<br />

the borderless frame<br />

of mind a child sees<br />

the world through. I’m<br />

hoping that as I keep<br />

working on this project<br />

I remove more and more<br />

of the mental blocks<br />

brought on by social<br />

conditioning of adulthood.”<br />

So you’re on tour right<br />

now. How is that going?<br />

How did that tour come<br />

about? What’s it like<br />

presenting your music to<br />

people who have never<br />

heard it before?<br />

“Tour is sick!! I love getting<br />

around and gigging<br />

more than I ever have<br />

before. I’m finding the<br />

confidence to play shows<br />

in unpredictable spaces<br />

and under unpredictable<br />

conditions and it’s been<br />

so fulfilling to rise to<br />

that challenge. When<br />

it’s just me going out to<br />

play these shows, I can’t<br />

think about it too much.<br />

I’ve just been booking<br />

myself as many gigs as I<br />

can, but I didn’t even set<br />

out to be having a tour<br />

initially. I just booked a<br />

bunch of gigs and before<br />

I knew it I was traveling!<br />

It’s been great getting<br />

around the Midwest. I<br />

love playing small towns<br />

and meeting people<br />

who’ve never heard of<br />

my music…. Playing<br />

New York last year was<br />

fun, but that’s like… the<br />

idea of a show, almost.<br />

There’s real traction<br />

in playing small town<br />

house shows. People<br />

genuinely care.”<br />

You recently moved to<br />

Detroit. How did that<br />

move come about? How<br />

has that change affected<br />

your musical endeavors?<br />

“Moving to Detroit has<br />

been an idea since I<br />

graduated high school,<br />

but I’ve never been<br />

ready until this year.<br />

Leaving home is hard,<br />

but so necessary. I feel<br />

more potential here,<br />

because nobody knows<br />

me. In Grand Rapids I<br />

had found myself at a<br />

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point where I was working<br />

in the schools and<br />

museums I went to as a<br />

kid, and the staff hadn’t<br />

necessarily changed<br />

since I was a kid and it<br />

made me feel crazy hahaha.<br />

So, yeah, Detroit<br />

is wonderful. I’m feeling<br />

very driven to focus<br />

on my passions here. I<br />

might even go to school<br />

again, who knows.”<br />

You work for Detroit-based<br />

music label<br />

Young Heavy Souls now.<br />

What’s your role like<br />

there? Similarly, what<br />

do they do for you, as<br />

both your employer and<br />

your music label? What’s<br />

it like working for the<br />

label that also publishes<br />

your music?<br />

“Sometimes working<br />

or the label I work with<br />

can be hard. It’s not<br />

always easy to draw<br />

concrete lines on what<br />

is paid label work, and<br />

what is unpaid creative<br />

work for myself. I’m<br />

learning a lot about<br />

what it takes to promote<br />

and run a healthy label.<br />

Knowing that so many<br />

artists other than myself<br />

are relying on the work<br />

we do to make their<br />

releases successful is a<br />

demanding idea, but it<br />

feels good to hear artists<br />

we work with express<br />

confidence in the way<br />

we show their work.<br />

Branding is wild, but<br />

also fun. I’m so excited<br />

about the upcoming<br />

releases we have been<br />

working on, and without<br />

saying too much… we’re<br />

going world wide this<br />

year.”<br />

You recently announced<br />

preorders for the vinyl<br />

edition of your album.<br />

What does it mean to<br />

you to have your music<br />

released on that format?<br />

How did that opportunity<br />

come about?<br />

“Vinyl has always been<br />

a goal for us, and the<br />

level of support this<br />

album has received on<br />

bandcamp has been so<br />

tangible and has felt so<br />

grassroots that we just<br />

felt confident that people<br />

who have been enjoying<br />

the record would<br />

want to own in physically,<br />

and that the people<br />

who catch me on tour<br />

would too. Vinyl feels so<br />

much more tangible to<br />

me than anything else<br />

and I’ve always loved<br />

picking up a record I<br />

love, handing it to a<br />

friend and just saying<br />

“take a look at this”<br />

or “let’s spin this one<br />

I think you’ll love it”.<br />

Like… that’s amazing!<br />

That’s how I connect<br />

with something usually.<br />

I’m excited to think<br />

people might have the<br />

same experience with<br />

what I’ve made, and the<br />

design is gorgeous too<br />

so I really can’t wait to<br />

get my hands on it.”<br />

I saw that you also recently<br />

had the opportunity<br />

to curate a mix for<br />

Slow Breathing Circuit.<br />

How did that opportunity<br />

come about? How did<br />

you select the music you<br />

wanted to feature?<br />

That mix was a great<br />

opportunity to showcase<br />

what I’ve been listening<br />

to, and premier some<br />

amazing new music<br />

from my friends. I also<br />

leaked a recording from<br />

a band I previously<br />

played keyboards for,<br />

but which had never<br />

been heard by anyone<br />

but us. It’s almost irrelevant<br />

if it means anything<br />

to anyone but me, but I<br />

think it does honestly.<br />

Slow Breathing Circuit<br />

reaches out to me and<br />

specifically asked for a<br />

mix, and the direction<br />

I took it in felt like the<br />

most exciting way for<br />

me to give them something<br />

comprehensive.<br />

I love making mixes.<br />

Hopefully someone else<br />

asks to hear what music<br />

I like sometime soon.<br />

You’ve been making<br />

music for a long time<br />

but ‘Wing Vilma’ is<br />

a newer moniker for<br />

your work. What does<br />

the future hold for this<br />

project? Where do you<br />

see yourself a few years<br />

from now?<br />

I feel good about this<br />

title. I feel confident it’s<br />

a title I could use for<br />

years and years without<br />

feeling constrained<br />

by my past works. It<br />

goes back to what I was<br />

saying earlier. The name<br />

represents something<br />

bigger than myself. It’s<br />

an expression of child<br />

like thinking, and that is<br />

what makes the possibilities<br />

feel so endless.<br />

Hopefully I do something<br />

I don’t yet expect.<br />

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AMERICAN<br />

BABYLON:<br />

Snapshots of a<br />

DIY Festival<br />

By: Jess Kwiatkowski<br />

PAGE 8


When you think about<br />

North Carolina, you<br />

probably think about<br />

Charlotte, Asheville, and<br />

Raleigh. Some of you<br />

might even think about<br />

Charleston and Myrtle<br />

Beach, even though<br />

those cities are actually<br />

located in South Carolina.<br />

It’s okay; it happens<br />

more often than you<br />

think. The “Old South”<br />

possesses its own connotations<br />

for the world<br />

at large, and perhaps<br />

those biases come to<br />

mind as well. What you<br />

do not think about is a<br />

little place called Rocky<br />

Mount, NC.<br />

In this nearly abandoned<br />

place, where entire city<br />

blocks are up for sale,<br />

Ryan Patrick O’Doud<br />

has taken up residence<br />

to fight the good fight<br />

that is establishing and<br />

maintaining a regional,<br />

eclectic DIY scene. I<br />

introduce him simply as<br />

an artist who previously<br />

powered an entire house<br />

show via solar panels<br />

attached to his van,<br />

and whose mathemati-<br />

cally-driven electronic<br />

music, as Bitter, Inc.,<br />

blends the existential<br />

questions of a generation<br />

with sharp anti-capitalist<br />

satire. In May of 2017, he<br />

took a leap of faith and<br />

brought American Babylon<br />

into the world.<br />

When I asked Ryan<br />

what inspired American<br />

Babylon, he reminisced<br />

about the now-defunct<br />

Port Shitty Antifest in<br />

Wilmington, NC, where<br />

I first met him, and<br />

which had taken place<br />

the year prior: “In June<br />

2016, I worked sound<br />

and managed the schedule<br />

while my then-partner<br />

Murphy did most of<br />

the booking and entertaining.<br />

I loved the DIY<br />

spirit, the willingness to<br />

work cooperatively, and<br />

especially the cross-pollination<br />

between artists.<br />

I found the experience so<br />

inspiring that I decided I<br />

wanted to try to organize<br />

a multi-day fest myself.<br />

Rocky Mount, which is a<br />

tabula rasa, seemed ideal<br />

to co-create a new type<br />

of culture.”<br />

American Babylon,<br />

a seven-day festival<br />

featuring a vibrant<br />

arrangement of regional<br />

musicians with a thick<br />

underlying theme of<br />

community and cooperation,<br />

took place at<br />

a single house in that<br />

small town called Rocky<br />

Mount. Pilgrims to<br />

this event were invited<br />

to sleep in the various<br />

rooms of the house or<br />

pitch tents in the yard.<br />

Having personally made<br />

the trip from Charleston<br />

with now Grand Rapids-based<br />

band, Another<br />

Man’s Trash, we opted to<br />

set up outside with other<br />

acts including the folkpunk<br />

Pokin’ Holes, and<br />

southeast phenomenon<br />

The Emotron.<br />

While there are plenty of<br />

“scenes” in North Carolina<br />

and the surrounding<br />

states, Ryan and Bitter,<br />

Inc., along with many of<br />

the American Babylon<br />

acts, are part of what<br />

he calls the “Outsider<br />

scene.” Since we cannot<br />

focus too long on<br />

the individual bands,<br />

Ryan gave me a general<br />

description of the sort<br />

of people that he works<br />

alongside; “The Outsider<br />

scene,” which is what<br />

American Babylon is primarily<br />

focused on, is one<br />

of the most generous and<br />

forgiving groups of people<br />

that I have ever met.<br />

Most of the acts are in it<br />

primarily for self-expression<br />

and the stage high.<br />

Money doesn’t seem to<br />

be the primary mover for<br />

these people. They want<br />

to make art. They want<br />

to have an opportunity to<br />

perform. All of us seem<br />

to be a bit off from neurotypical<br />

too, so there’s<br />

a healthy community of<br />

strangers and weirdos<br />

working together. It’s a<br />

really great thing to be a<br />

part of.”<br />

It suffices to say that each<br />

performance brought its<br />

own unique energy to<br />

the warm kinship which<br />

illuminated the entire<br />

week.<br />

My party remained for<br />

the first half; relocation<br />

to Grand Rapids,<br />

unfortunately, prevented<br />

us from witnessing the<br />

climax of American<br />

Babylon. On any of those<br />

given nights, roughly<br />

twenty to thirty people<br />

remained for a space of<br />

days while others left<br />

this, frequently described<br />

as, magical place to<br />

attend their personal<br />

obligations.<br />

During our time, food<br />

donations rounded out<br />

by dumpster diving<br />

provided breakfast,<br />

lunch, and dinner for the<br />

visitors. I took my turn<br />

cooking for everyone<br />

on the first afternoon,<br />

but only a few rotations<br />

passed before one artist,<br />

James, dedicated himself<br />

to preparing our provisions.<br />

Fruit smoothies,<br />

tacos, stews, and plenty<br />

of rice fortified us, and<br />

there was always a vegetarian<br />

option. Drinking<br />

and merrymaking<br />

overlaid the event, and<br />

early afternoons before<br />

the shows featured artists<br />

plucking instruments<br />

into song and coaxing<br />

tales into tapestry. Burning<br />

incense perfumed the<br />

air. The yard where we<br />

stayed accommodated up<br />

to twelve tents at a time,<br />

hackneyed in their alignment<br />

yet navigable.<br />

Campers, like myself, assisted<br />

in various odd jobs<br />

to upkeep the property.<br />

From cleaning counter<br />

“The Outsider scene,” which is what<br />

American Babylon is primarily focused<br />

on, is one of the most generous and<br />

forgiving groups of people that I<br />

have ever met.<br />

tops, to collecting beer<br />

cans, to sweeping and<br />

mopping, everyone<br />

pitched in. As a result,<br />

despite crowds sometimes<br />

surging to upwards<br />

of 60, the house never<br />

looked much worse for<br />

the wear as the days<br />

progressed.<br />

These illustrations<br />

arrive at expense of<br />

sentiment. It is easy to<br />

write how, in a botched<br />

train hop, more experienced<br />

punkers carefully<br />

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andaged up our friend<br />

by picking the gravel<br />

embedded in her knee<br />

and washed the wound<br />

before wrapping it, yet<br />

their easy, chuckling<br />

rapport confounds a<br />

journalistic observation.<br />

Likewise, the reading of<br />

an ad-libbed book that<br />

took a whole morning to<br />

complete and filled the<br />

yard with gales of laughter<br />

is near intangible in<br />

its hilarity.<br />

Other scenes include<br />

the first night of the<br />

event. Many of the artists<br />

caroused late into the<br />

night, but Ryan had taken<br />

his leave to get some<br />

rest. We all followed<br />

him into the stage room,<br />

where he laid down,<br />

and we sang his praises<br />

on guitar. It made him<br />

smile, but as the night<br />

wore on, someone finally<br />

pointed out that he<br />

needed real sleep without<br />

being surrounded by<br />

acolytes.<br />

On the third night,<br />

Ryan received his first<br />

stick-and-poke tattoo<br />

from Blake, a member of<br />

performance art group<br />

Dumpster Cookies. The<br />

process of finding the<br />

thread, distilling the<br />

could not make it. Under<br />

Ryan’s direction, musicians<br />

collaborated with<br />

each other and utilized<br />

“Heartfelt farewells and wishes for<br />

safe travels ushered our departure. The<br />

glow of that experience remained luminous<br />

within me for months afterward.”<br />

pen ink, and finding a<br />

needle in the haystack<br />

of pleasantly inebriated<br />

attendees took an<br />

hour on its own. Dirt,<br />

of Pokin’ Holes, played<br />

guitar; I was responsible<br />

for holding the ink, and<br />

Blake carefully prodded<br />

a design into tattoo.<br />

Again, my narrative falls<br />

short to express the lively<br />

fraternization of these<br />

memories, but take my<br />

word: each experience<br />

overflowed with ecstatic<br />

conviviality uncommonly<br />

captured among<br />

artists.<br />

American Babylon<br />

did not occur without<br />

hitches, yet we all rose to<br />

meet the challenges. A<br />

moderate issue became<br />

band dropouts as several<br />

confirmed acts suddenly<br />

those freed spaces as a<br />

canvas for unique, experimental<br />

sets.<br />

Every day of music began<br />

at 4pm and lasted until<br />

midnight. For ninety<br />

percent of those sets,<br />

every single participant<br />

returned indoors to the<br />

blacked out and dimly<br />

lit room where Ryan and<br />

his co-conspirators set<br />

the stage. The missing<br />

ten percent caught a<br />

handful of people resting<br />

for short intervals. Sometimes<br />

dancing; sometimes<br />

cross-legged on<br />

the ground and swaying,<br />

everyone’s fierce appreciation<br />

for this singular<br />

event forged deep and<br />

impactful relationships.<br />

I say so on personal experience,<br />

and any of my<br />

party, and those friends<br />

that they made over<br />

those first four nights<br />

at American Babylon,<br />

would attest the same.<br />

By the time headliners<br />

rolled around, a workday’s<br />

worth of music<br />

carried the audience over<br />

the edge into a frenzy<br />

of dancing, arms ’round<br />

one another, laughing,<br />

singing along, and<br />

accidentally partying<br />

to the most thorough<br />

support of an impromptu<br />

collective that I have ever<br />

witnessed.<br />

For Ryan, the experience<br />

of orchestrating such a<br />

huge event catalyzed his<br />

own artistic ambitions.<br />

He said, “American Babylon<br />

was transformative<br />

for me. It taught me that<br />

I could put something<br />

grandiose together and<br />

pull it off. It also taught<br />

me that if you envision<br />

something and work towards<br />

it in earnest, it can<br />

manifest. This unwavering<br />

belief in manifestation<br />

has allowed me<br />

to organize other fests,<br />

tours, a magazine, and<br />

several albums under the<br />

Bitter, Inc. name. American<br />

Babylon exceeded<br />

my expectations. I look<br />

forward to doing it every<br />

year until I croak.”<br />

As we prepared to take<br />

our leave from Rocky<br />

Mount on a humid<br />

Thursday morning, like<br />

only the south knows,<br />

the imprints of our<br />

tents were overlapped<br />

by the weekend bands<br />

happily staking out for<br />

the latter half of American<br />

Babylon. Heartfelt<br />

farewells and wishes for<br />

safe travels ushered our<br />

departure. The glow of<br />

that experience remained<br />

luminous within me for<br />

months afterward. Even<br />

now, the inspiration of<br />

that dedicated collective<br />

is an uplifting thought<br />

when making new connections<br />

flounders due to<br />

self-interest.<br />

It is 2018 now. American<br />

Babylon: END TIMES<br />

revives from the ashes<br />

burned by Bitter, Inc. and<br />

JC Meyers on that last<br />

Sunday in May of 2017.<br />

It will be just a 3-day<br />

festival, but the essence<br />

remains the same. He<br />

explained the leaner<br />

mechanism of END<br />

TIMES for these reasons:<br />

“In the first year, a few<br />

artists cancelled last<br />

minute which created<br />

timing issues. Also, the<br />

sheer quantity of actsover<br />

80- made it difficult<br />

to pay everyone. In the<br />

end, we did make a<br />

decent amount of money,<br />

and every act received a<br />

check, but the funds were<br />

split up in so many ways<br />

that people received $16<br />

each. We also wanted to<br />

focus our energies more<br />

effectively. This year, it is<br />

a 3-day process with 33<br />

bands. It’ll be tighter, and<br />

each performer will walk<br />

away with a little more<br />

money.”<br />

The invitation to sleep in<br />

an open house, to play<br />

with old friends and<br />

carouse with new, to provide<br />

a haven for women,<br />

LBGQT, and POC artists,<br />

maintain the anarchistic<br />

spirit, and to, as Ryan<br />

O’Doud might say, “DO<br />

A GODDAMN THING!”<br />

is extended to all– so I<br />

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hope to see you there.<br />

American Babylon: END<br />

TIMES takes place at the<br />

Rocky Mount Unitarian<br />

Universalist Fellowship<br />

Church, June 7-9, 2018.<br />

Preparing for END<br />

TIMES is just one of<br />

many projects for Ryan.<br />

Aside from publishing<br />

a monthly zine, IS-<br />

SUES, Bitter, Inc. will<br />

be embarking on some<br />

mini-tours. Bitter, Inc.<br />

features Ryan O’Doud<br />

on vocals and Echo<br />

Redmond also on vocals<br />

and live sound manipulation.<br />

When I asked<br />

Ryan about the future of<br />

Bitter, Inc., he answered<br />

with plenty of big plans.<br />

“In April, Echo and I are<br />

touring to New England<br />

and hitting several cities<br />

on the way including<br />

Portland, ME, Norfolk,<br />

VA, and Burlington, VT.<br />

We are recording and<br />

performing songs from<br />

our upcoming fourth<br />

album (debuting at END<br />

TIMES): A Love Song<br />

(To the Apocalypse).<br />

We have another tour in<br />

May. We’ll be recording<br />

in Echo’s uncle’s place<br />

in Chicago; after that<br />

is END TIMES. This<br />

summer we are planning<br />

on doing a full US tour.<br />

Echo arranged for Bitter,<br />

Inc. to perform with a<br />

film installation artist<br />

named Amanda Beech.<br />

She’s going to record our<br />

performance in LA and<br />

edit it into some of her<br />

installations throughout<br />

the globe. It’s a great<br />

opportunity.<br />

To summarize, we’re<br />

working to get better at<br />

everything we do. We’re<br />

booking everywhere<br />

we can. We’re traveling,<br />

recording, and performing<br />

as much as possible.<br />

We love to make art for<br />

the people, and we hope<br />

to see you at a show<br />

sometime.”<br />

On a final note, Ryan<br />

generously named some<br />

influential and inspirational<br />

artists in his<br />

region. Some of these<br />

will be playing American<br />

Babylon: END<br />

TIMES. Others, like<br />

Ryan himself, will travel<br />

into Grand Rapids or the<br />

There’s a tumor in Kevin’s brain, and<br />

he’s sitting in the grass with his back<br />

against a<br />

boulder. He’s been watching the hawk<br />

circle through the same motion for<br />

hours: a figure eight,<br />

crossing over where it thinks the sun<br />

may be. Kevin wonders if he’ll see the<br />

sun again, and<br />

wonders if the hawk ever thinks the<br />

same. The sky is milky, it looks untouched.<br />

It’s convincing<br />

to Kevin that gray is how it should be.<br />

When Kevin was a child, he swore he’d<br />

never kill an<br />

Animal.<br />

Kevin looks at the wind and wishes he<br />

knew less about himself. Kevin would<br />

love to<br />

have the wings of the hawk and glide<br />

home. He wants nothing more than<br />

to lay his head on straw and stick and<br />

mismatched parts of the world. Kevin<br />

MISMATCH<br />

By Maria Mckee<br />

wonders about the family dog from<br />

way back when.<br />

“What about him?” Kevin asks out<br />

loud.<br />

Kevin has never felt anything unexpected<br />

or painful. He used to drink<br />

milk every day and<br />

wore suits on the Sabbath. His mother<br />

would call him handsome, his aunts<br />

pinched his cheeks.<br />

When Kevin looks up the trees pulse<br />

like wounds on his body. Can Kevin<br />

cry? He wiggles his<br />

fingers and opens his mouth, screeches<br />

as the hawk would.<br />

The hawk descends and Kevin’s been<br />

waiting, back against boulder shoes<br />

rimmed with<br />

mud and the gun has been ready for<br />

quite some time.<br />

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Proving Grounds:<br />

Sojii on the Perils<br />

& Triumphs of<br />

DIY Touring<br />

by: Zac Abid<br />

Grand Rapids self described “trench-funk” veterans Sojii are about<br />

to embark on a 5-week coast-to-coast DIY tour of the United States.<br />

Talking to the band, the tour feels like a culmination of sorts; or at<br />

least the next step towards something bigger. I talked to the band<br />

about what it takes for local musicians to execute a large-scale DIY<br />

tour.Sojii has embarked on ambitious tours before, often side-byside<br />

with fellow Grand Rapids punk band Ape Not Kill Ape, who<br />

are also joining them on this 5-week trek. Sojii have been to the east<br />

and west coasts, and most everywhere in between, but this is the<br />

biggest tour they’ve ever done by far. Of their next trip, guitarist-vocalist<br />

Valerie Salerno says, “we’re going to be playing almost every<br />

night…We’ve never played that much.” The band plans to head<br />

down along the East Coast into the Southwest, where the band will<br />

be stopping by SXSW. After that, the band will head for the West<br />

Coast, and then back through the Midwest before heading home.<br />

"Now that we have an album everthing<br />

is so much easier because people are<br />

like oh they're serious,"<br />

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It’s not easy to prep for a large-scale<br />

operation like this, but the band<br />

members have learned from previous<br />

smaller excursions the proper steps<br />

to take. “It’s like half money, and half<br />

mental,” drummer Donny Olin tells<br />

me. “The act of doing it is not challenging,<br />

it’s making sure that you<br />

are ready to go, because if you’re not<br />

ready to go, you’re not going to have<br />

a good time, or you’re going to run<br />

out of money and fuck yourself over<br />

somehow,” he adds. Money is a huge<br />

concern, and being ready can mean<br />

preparing months in advance. “We’re<br />

going for 5 weeks, which is an entire<br />

bill period basically, so you have to get<br />

all that shit squared away, water bill,<br />

rent, car insurance,” Olin continues.<br />

For bands thinking of making similar<br />

treks themselves, he suggests the $10<br />

rule. “You can get by in most parts of<br />

the United States on 10 bucks a day,<br />

and it’s a really good yardstick for you<br />

to use to be like oh my god, maybe I<br />

should slow down before I’m begging<br />

for change in Tulsa,” he adds.<br />

The band also have to prepare themselves<br />

mentally. For the inevitable<br />

downtime, Olin plans on doing a lot of<br />

reading. For musicians like Sojii and<br />

ANKA, listening to music is obviously<br />

a given. You also have to be mindful<br />

of the stress incurred by being stuck<br />

in a van with the same people for<br />

weeks on end. “I feel like the part that<br />

sometimes breaks people is the fact<br />

that Allen and Brett (drummer and<br />

guitarist of ANKA, respectively) are on<br />

hour 36 of Bob Dylan and the Band…<br />

We all obviously love Bob Dylan and<br />

the Band, but like, there’s something<br />

about a really high pitched harmonica<br />

at 3:30 in the morning,” Olin quips.<br />

‘If you’re in a car with somebody for a<br />

long time you’re gonna get pissed off<br />

at least once,” Salerno explains. Sojii<br />

understand that the occasional spat<br />

is inevitable, and that they try not to<br />

take anything to heart. “We’re all going<br />

through the same thing,” Olin says.<br />

It’s not all personal preparedness, however.<br />

The booking and organization of<br />

the tour are just as important. Salerno<br />

booked nearly all of the dates on this<br />

tour. “I used to book shit tours because<br />

I wasn’t that organized…. I’ve gotten<br />

so much better,” she explains. The key<br />

thing for organizing such a large-scale<br />

DIY tour is writing everything down.<br />

It looks like this, she says: “for every<br />

single date, keeping track of the steps<br />

you’ve taken… we have 36 dates so its<br />

like 36 different situations that I have<br />

to keep up on the steps of.” The process<br />

takes time. “I started booking this one<br />

4 months before the tour… and we’re<br />

still finishing up, we have 9 more dates<br />

to go. Today we got another one,” she<br />

continues. Salerno explains that the<br />

booking process for DIY shows isn’t<br />

so straightforward either. “It’s not all<br />

start looking and then get a date same<br />

day, or even in a couple days. A lot of<br />

its like ‘Who knows, I don’t know, talk<br />

to this guy,” she says. Often the process<br />

comes down to “relentlessly hounding<br />

people,” she adds with a laugh. Two<br />

things have helped ease this process,<br />

however. “Now that we have an album<br />

everything’s so much easier because<br />

people are like oh they’re serious,”<br />

Salerno explains. Another crucial<br />

factor has been having a press kit and<br />

a professional bio. “Almost 90% of the<br />

time I’ll get an answer back, and it<br />

used to be like, 30%,” This process has<br />

paid off, too. “This tour we’re getting<br />

really cool dates,” she tells me. The date<br />

the band is most excited about is a<br />

SXSW spillover show in San Antonio.<br />

“We’re the opener for the main band,<br />

like we play right before them,” she<br />

exclaims to her bandmates’ astonishment.<br />

Salerno points out that while it’s<br />

important to book solid shows, it’s<br />

also crucial to prepare for being on<br />

the road. “I have a whole itinerary…<br />

part of the organization is like, leaving<br />

times, when do we have to leave by this<br />

date… what’s the time zone change for<br />

that,” she explains. The band learned<br />

the importance of keeping track of<br />

time zones the hard way. Salerno<br />

recalls one instance in particular. She<br />

explains,”we didn’t factor in the time<br />

change from Denver to Davenport,<br />

Iowa so we were like fucking two<br />

hours late and we didn’t have bass<br />

strings.” Their solution was to call in<br />

a favor from the people hosting the<br />

show. “We had to call them and be<br />

like, can you guys go to Guitar Center?”<br />

Salerno says.<br />

Guitarist Danny<br />

Sein agrees on the importance of<br />

preparedness, but adds “I think it’s<br />

also okay when you’re not because<br />

like, once you start going … you just<br />

develop this kind of like family pack<br />

mentality.” Salerno concurs, adding,<br />

“you want to help them out, when one<br />

of us is broke the other one will step in<br />

and not let you starve. Financially and<br />

emotionally we support each other a<br />

lot.” While Salerno is the only original<br />

member of Sojii, she expresses that this<br />

lineup of the band has proved itself<br />

time and time again, both as a touring<br />

act and a recording act, but also as a<br />

group of people who can rely on one<br />

another. “I’ve been on tours before<br />

with people and the tour is how I find<br />

out that I shouldn’t be in a band with<br />

them,” She tells me. “I think our two<br />

week tour was make us or break us,<br />

because that was a show every day… I<br />

think two weeks is breaking point, and<br />

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"A tour is just fucking heaven for me,<br />

even if I don't have like a lot<br />

of money."<br />

I think now that we’re beyond that,<br />

we’re so close,” Salerno says.<br />

While the camaraderie shared among<br />

the members of Sojii is palpable, so is<br />

the relationship the band shares with<br />

ANKA. “They’re ride or die just like<br />

us,” Salerno tells me, adding, “we’re the<br />

little spoon to their big spoon.” I ask<br />

if that’s something they kept in mind<br />

as they’ve booked other bands across<br />

their tour. “Spooning?” She quips. The<br />

band mention Chicago punk band<br />

Drool. “They’re definitely our little<br />

spoon,” Salerno adds.<br />

Speaking to the band, the force that<br />

compels them is apparent. Of the thing<br />

that motivates him, Olin says, “It’s<br />

like a job… I don’t want to say a job<br />

because it’s nothing like a job, but it is<br />

like… it’s the same kind of dedication<br />

and it’s the same kind of ‘I need to<br />

do this’.” Describing her anticipation<br />

Salerno says, “that’s what’s so amazing<br />

about tour, that you’re with a bunch<br />

of people, you were all born for this…<br />

so like a tour is just fucking heaven<br />

for me, even if I don’t have like a lot<br />

of money. It’s just so exciting to wake<br />

up in a new place every day and get<br />

to meet new people and do what you<br />

love, and share your shit, to people<br />

who are interested… or not.”<br />

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Herm Baker Talks Vertigo Music<br />

& Inevitable Retirement<br />

by: Zac Abid<br />

If you’ve ever talked to the man most often behind the counter of Grand Rapids’ Vertigo<br />

Music, you may have found someone who’s friendly, affable, and extremely knowledgeable<br />

of music. This man, Herm Baker has been a quiet force within the Grand Rapids music<br />

scene for decades. Interviewing Herm Baker reveals a personality not necessarily betrayed<br />

by his easy-going demeanor, one that is both hard-headed, observant, and clever, a personality<br />

that has allowed him to maintain his business even as the musical and economic<br />

landscape has remained in flux around him. Despite these circumstances, Herm Baker has<br />

managed to forge Vertigo Music into West Michigan’s premier record shop.<br />

When asked what led him to try his hand at the music business he tells me, “same thing<br />

as you… voracious consumption of newer music.” Baker explains, “the music we liked we<br />

couldn’t find in Grand Rapids… We wanted a store that had more underground stuff in it.”<br />

This was in 1986, when Baker’s first record store Vinyl Solution, opened at its first location<br />

on South Division Avenue. “We started off as a vinyl store,” he says, one that always stocked<br />

smaller indie punk records. When the CD format took off the store “kind of morphed into a<br />

bigger thing,” he says. “CDs really dominated.” The store’s business grew so substantially that<br />

they relocated to a larger location on the corner of 28th and Breton. Vinyl Solution had its<br />

biggest year ever in 1995, doing $1.6 million in sales largely on the back of its CD stock. This<br />

success was short-lived, however. By 1999, Vinyl Solution had been put out of business by<br />

larger retailers like Best Buy.<br />

The years leading up to Vinyl Solution’s demise were hard on Herm Baker. Just coming off<br />

a divorce, the end of Vinyl Solution saw Baker go bankrupt and lose his home. “One of my<br />

darkest years on Earth… all hope and self-confidence had been beaten out of me” he recalls.<br />

Improbably though, Baker was back in business by the next year. Vertigo Music opened in<br />

2000, only a block away from its present day direction. While Baker admits he did consider<br />

moving on from the music business, his stubbornness kept him in the game. Baker was<br />

unhappy with the way that Vinyl Solution ended: “It did not end on my terms,” he says. He<br />

is determined to not let his new store suffer the same fate as his former one.<br />

In the wake of Vinyl Solution’s end, Baker saw the opportunity to reinvent his business. He<br />

kicked off Vertigo Music by buying the remainder of Vinyl Solution’s inventory back from<br />

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the bankruptcy court, but that’s where the similarities end. He moved his business away<br />

from the suburbs and onto Division Avenue, which put it much nearer to the colleges and<br />

Heritage Hill area. Baker hoped that his store’s vicinity to these neighborhoods would attract<br />

the kind of people he had originally entered the music business to serve: young people<br />

with voracious appetites for music. Moving his business to Division also allowed him to<br />

decrease the overhead costs of running his business by spending less money on rent. Baker<br />

also cut back by living on next to nothing himself.<br />

Baker’s strategy worked; Vertigo moved to its current location a few years later to decrease<br />

operating costs even further, and he found that he and his business were getting by. At<br />

the time, Vertigo was still banking on CDs. However, he remembers ten years ago “there<br />

was one distinct Christmas where I remember a bunch of kids were looking at vinyl, and<br />

I thought we need to get in front of this… I saw what the Corner Record Shop was doing,<br />

and I said lets be that store that has that new indie rock vinyl.” Baker has consistently been<br />

ramping up the store’s vinyl selection since then. When the store opened it had around 2000<br />

new and used vinyl records. Currently, the store boasts about 26,000 new records alone. It is<br />

this shift towards vinyl that has allowed Vertigo to survive the decline of the CD and the rise<br />

of digital music platforms like iTunes as well as streaming services like Spotify. Baker says<br />

the LP offers a visual appeal due to its size that CDs and digital products cannot compete<br />

with. “It’s aesthetically pleasing, and it sounds great if you have a good turntable,” Baker<br />

says. “It’s just a better package than CDs.”<br />

While Herm Baker still loves music, he admits “The fires have dimmed… a bit.” He says<br />

there’s music coming out today that he loves, “but not like how I loved when I was 23 years<br />

old.” Baker has other aspirations in life as well. “At some point I’d like to get away from<br />

this… I’d like to travel,” he explains. He sees that at this point in his career, his time at Vertigo<br />

is likely to end sooner rather than later. “I’d love to sell the store to somebody and slowly<br />

transition it over a period of a year, or two years maybe,” he reveals. Unlike Vinyl Solution,<br />

Baker is determined to end Vertigo Music on his terms, and as long as Vertigo remains<br />

Grand Rapids go-to record store, he seems poised to do just that.<br />

My sister pockets dead robins,<br />

lets ant-infested insides fall deep into her.<br />

I watch flies swarm her midsection and pray<br />

over the oozing of death.<br />

How to<br />

Say<br />

Amen<br />

By Maria mckee<br />

You are not like them, I’ve told myself<br />

most days since the last fly dropped<br />

to her feet. She is more than a shrine,<br />

more than a collector of matted feathers and keratin<br />

smudged with blood and Catholic school plaid.<br />

But at night I sneak into her closet,<br />

weave baskets out of blood vessels,<br />

sink my teeth into whicker fibers<br />

that collect dust between each crevice.<br />

I press my forehead to the sticky remains of a rotting bird,<br />

wash my feet clean of sin.<br />

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The Death Of<br />

The Death House<br />

By Guadalupe Olgine Jr.<br />

The Death House. You know, that<br />

dingy, dark and raw but unequivocally<br />

most popular underground GR music<br />

venue that had a fucking skating ramp<br />

in it. I covered this gem almost 2 years<br />

ago, but wasn’t technically “allowed” to<br />

talk about it. Until now. Because the<br />

Death House is now, well, dead. And<br />

to quote the 2013 album title of Drake,<br />

the human pudding popsicle himself,<br />

“Nothing Was The Same.”<br />

So we decided to put this out and<br />

revisit a time when I hit up local<br />

GR bar The Meanwhile with the last<br />

two people involved with The Death<br />

House. We discussed in detail what<br />

was actually happened with The Death<br />

House, and clicked-and-clanked over<br />

rap, race, and dranks. (Circa 2016)<br />

In 1929 Author and Poet Frigyes<br />

Karinthy popularized the 6 degrees<br />

of separation theory with his novel,<br />

Chains. We are all connected by less<br />

than 6 steps, or “chains” of interaction.<br />

Tell anybody in West Michigan and<br />

they will easily say “cut that number<br />

in half.” Seemingly everyone knows<br />

someone who knows everyone; we’re<br />

all connected in strange ways. For<br />

most people here, it’s something<br />

petty, like, “Yeah, they work at (insert<br />

mediocre craft brewery here).” For<br />

myself and my interviewees, the chain<br />

is rooted in the local music scene.<br />

Dante Cope, a fixture in Grand Rapids<br />

hip hop since Myspace was a thing,<br />

co-founded a recording studio that I<br />

ended up working at years later while<br />

he pursued other endeavors. I met<br />

Brandon Sykes because he ended up<br />

taking my room in a house I vacated.<br />

“Oh yeah, he raps too”, I explicitly remember<br />

my old roommates telling me<br />

whenever I came back to stomp them<br />

on 2k. “Cool,” I nonchalantly replied,<br />

as 70% of my friends are rappers. I later<br />

went to a show he performed at and<br />

immediately regretted my initial indifference.<br />

“You were right,” I declared.<br />

“This dude raps.“<br />

Dante Cope is no stranger to the hustle.<br />

Besides constantly creating music<br />

for himself, he has also produced and<br />

engineered for countless other artists.<br />

He promotes shows for his Beat<br />

Suite series, as well as who ever he is<br />

bringing in at The Death House, but<br />

more on that later. Despite all that,<br />

it seems as in 2016 he’s been a man<br />

possessed. He recently returned from<br />

New York assisting GR Poet Fable with<br />

his Mental Health Awareness speakings.<br />

Earlier this year he was in Flint,<br />

assisting residents with the water crisis.<br />

On any given night in the city you can<br />

catch him rapping at Eastown venue<br />

staples Billy’s or Mulligan’s, playing<br />

sax at Founders or Pyramid Scheme,<br />

or jamming out with a 7 piece band at<br />

Mexicains Sans Frontieres. All while<br />

continuously dropping #truthbombs all<br />

over Facebook, ruffling feathers with<br />

statements such as “in America everyone<br />

is born a slave. You have to buy<br />

your freedom.” Or, “most artists in this<br />

city shouldn’t call themselves as such”.<br />

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First and foremost, formal introduct…”Dante<br />

mother fuckin’ Cope, and<br />

motha fuckin’ Sykes.” “Yup, Brandon<br />

Sykes!” Between the two of them I can<br />

hardly get my questions in. “ I do rap<br />

music for rap heads, jazz music, for<br />

jazz heads, and music for anti-fuckboys”<br />

states Cope. Sykes has a more<br />

bookish approach; “I do Lit-Hop. LIT,<br />

DASH, HOP, not hip-hop, Lit-Hop, I<br />

do that shit.”<br />

I fire off my first question: “Do you<br />

guys feel like Dutch white people and<br />

solely Dutch white people run this<br />

city?”<br />

Sykes answers first: “Gentrification is<br />

funny as fuck. You wanna go somewhere,<br />

and take it over, and the people<br />

that were already there, don’t act<br />

they’re foreign, of course. So, like, you<br />

got people coming in from the country<br />

and from the suburbs…” and Cope<br />

can’t help but point out the obvious:<br />

“Right now there’s a white chick walking<br />

a little ass dog, down Wealthy St. 5<br />

years ago, that shit wouldn’t happen.<br />

Sykes cuts back in to say “It’s not about<br />

that, though, it’s about the treatment.<br />

They treat us like we’re the foreigners<br />

when in all actuality we’ve been here<br />

the whole time. It’s really…” As the<br />

bartender approaches I cut them off to<br />

buy drinks, “what do you guys want?”<br />

Cope: NOT Tequila<br />

JR: Tequila? “3 shots of Tequila”<br />

Cope: No he said NOT Tequila.<br />

Sykes: You almost had me fucked up!<br />

I order three shots of fireball, we clink,<br />

tap, and drink.<br />

Speaking of Death House, I know<br />

that’s your guys’ joint venture, a fan<br />

favorite of locals. How did you guys<br />

link up for that?<br />

Cope: “I knew the punk (rockers) that<br />

had it before, and nobody else really<br />

jumped on it… kinda fell into our lap.<br />

We just wanted to bring live-ass shows<br />

in a different type of setting.”<br />

Sykes: “You got the bar shows out here,<br />

and those shows be wack, well not<br />

wack, but weird. Cuz Everyone that<br />

performs is trying not to piss off the<br />

venues, or the owners, so it’s not about<br />

the music first.”<br />

I know that both of you, especially you,<br />

Sykes, have rocked plenty of stages in<br />

Detroit, lately. I’ve lived all over this<br />

state. I’ve found the “east side” doesn’t<br />

even consider it as such, it’s just Michigan,<br />

while here in GR everyone is so<br />

determined to separate themselves, as<br />

“West Michigan“. Do you feel a divide?<br />

Sykes: “It’s open season messing with<br />

Detroit artists that come here and<br />

vice-versa. It’s dope going over there<br />

and messing with some legendary<br />

artists. Sometimes people here are<br />

passive-aggressive.”<br />

Cope: “That’s the main thing.”<br />

Sykes: “They’re about movement. They<br />

won’t stand there your whole set, cross<br />

their arms, nod their heads, then tell<br />

you “you’re dope” after you get off<br />

stage. If they think you’re dope, you’re<br />

gonna feel it. It’s not the, uncomfortable,<br />

lean against a wall and look at me<br />

funny then tell me 20 minutes later I’m<br />

dope. That’s not cool.. I mean, it’s cool,<br />

but..”<br />

Cope: “Grand Rapids is conservative.”<br />

*laughs* Sykes is outnumbered (as a<br />

GR native).<br />

Point being, you guys have ran<br />

through a multitude of shows through<br />

numerous scenes, and cities. There’s<br />

no mistaking The Death House is<br />

a culmination of sorts exhibiting<br />

those experiences. Do you feel you’ve<br />

accomplished what you want to, with<br />

this endeavor?<br />

Cope: “There’s a lot more political<br />

work to do.. like Detroit has a bunch of<br />

underground venues. In Grand Rapids<br />

you can count them all on one hand<br />

type shit. The city doesn’t embrace it.<br />

It’s not the people. It’s the actual city<br />

that doesn’t embrace it.<br />

I feel like you guys have done well with<br />

the Death House. Lots of people have<br />

been there. I’d say even more don’t<br />

know where it is, but have definitely<br />

heard about it. You’ve kept things<br />

pretty low key, to the point where you<br />

almost didn’t even want to be interviewed<br />

about it. Is this all for a reason?<br />

Cope: “Yeah, that was on purpose.<br />

And that’s why we’re shutting it down.<br />

Because A, too many people have been<br />

putting the address out online, B, everytime<br />

we do a show, some young cats<br />

break somethin’, or fuck up somethin’.”<br />

People don’t know how to act.<br />

Cope: “See… motha fuckas just don’t<br />

appreciate shit. Even before we got it,<br />

they were doing mad punk shows, and<br />

none of them hit us up after we took<br />

over. They never ask to book a show,<br />

they never ask to do shit.”<br />

Do you think it’s a jealousy issue, or a<br />

fuckboy issue?<br />

Sykes: “It’s cuz we’re black, dude.”<br />

Cope: “I think it’s a politics issue and<br />

race issue. People in West Michigan<br />

are just gonna do some shit they’re<br />

used to doing all the time.”<br />

How will you guys remember this<br />

experience, running your own venue,<br />

“Detroit has a bunch<br />

of underground venues.<br />

In Grand Rapids<br />

you can count them<br />

all on one hand type<br />

shit. The city doesn’t<br />

embrace it. It’s not the<br />

people. It’s the actual<br />

city that doesn’t embrace<br />

it.”<br />

throwing your own shows, when bars<br />

and clubs around town wouldn’t let<br />

you?<br />

Sykes: “WE MADE SHIT LIT!”<br />

Cope: (laughs) “Shit was lit. But<br />

now I’m just focused on music, and<br />

putting out all these projects for The<br />

Dante Cope Experience. I have some<br />

shows coming up as well, May 14th<br />

at Mulligan’s, and in July we’re gonna<br />

do the Vinyl release for Vivat Lupas at<br />

Founders.”<br />

I actually wanted to touch on that<br />

record, which, in my opinion was<br />

vastly underrated, dare I say slept-on.<br />

It’s a record that, sonically, is all over<br />

the place. Do you feel GR has it’s own<br />

sound, or are you trying to create one?<br />

Cope: “Grand Rapids doesn’t have<br />

a sound, but that’s why the music is<br />

good here. I have my sound, Sykes has<br />

his sound, Rick Chyme sounds totally<br />

different, we have WuZee, and it’s all<br />

GR. We have diversity.”<br />

That’s why I was initially surprised<br />

to see you and Sykes collab, you guys<br />

have completely different styles.<br />

Cope: “The music brings everybody<br />

together. Even our band, our band has<br />

a bunch of different people from dif-<br />

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ferent eras. Hugo is older, he’s seen like<br />

multiple eras of art in the city, underground<br />

venues and that. Then we got<br />

Ari, who’s young, knows a bunch of<br />

stuff that I don’t even know about. It’s<br />

all about the music.”<br />

Any new projects we should be on the<br />

lookout for?<br />

Sykes: “Well I just re-branded myself<br />

as Belve, so be on the lookout for that,<br />

also the Belve and SEVENth joint, I got<br />

a couple tracks with Nick Speed out of<br />

Detroit, a producer, fuckin’ dope. He’s<br />

worked with Danny Brown, 50 Cent,<br />

Lloyd Banks. I also just worked with<br />

L.A.Z. of Clear Soul Forces, they’re<br />

dope as fuck, be on the lookout for<br />

everything, I’m sitting on bombs right<br />

now.”<br />

Cope, are your feet permanently rooted<br />

in GR or are you do you aspire to<br />

move anywhere?<br />

Cope: “I dunno yet. I may move to<br />

New York. I’m going to NY with Fable<br />

the first week of May, that’s coming up<br />

soon.”<br />

Do you feel like you’re at the crux of<br />

your career? You’re young enough to<br />

do anything but also at that age where<br />

a re-invention could be too late. It’s a<br />

tricky spot.<br />

Cope: “I’ve done everything I could (in<br />

GR). I’ve performed in every venue..<br />

if I’m here, I’m helping out the scene<br />

more than it’s helping me.”<br />

I feel like a lot of artists do that, but it’s<br />

not necessarily by choice.<br />

Cope: “Yeah, and if I stay here, it’s by<br />

choice. There’s a lot of dope artists in<br />

the city coming up, that don’t have<br />

an outlet, or don’t know how to put<br />

their stuff out because the city has no<br />

infrastructure. There’s no ‘this is how<br />

you do shit here’.”<br />

Do you still produce for others?<br />

Cope: “Very rarely. I produced for<br />

Rosewood, there’s gonna be another<br />

Brickstreet Project coming out soon, I<br />

produce for Suport, and that’s about it.<br />

There’s one other artist I produce for<br />

but I can’t tell you who that is.”<br />

Wale?<br />

Cope: It’s Future. I’m producing for<br />

Future. If Metro Boomin’ don’t trust<br />

you, I’m gonna shoot you.<br />

I know you engineer, is that strictly for<br />

yourself?<br />

Cope: “I do that for a couple people,<br />

but that’s not what I’m trying to do. I<br />

recently moved into a new space, and<br />

actually I’m not even trying to engineer<br />

for myself anymore. So like, my<br />

roommate owns one of the best studios<br />

in Grand Rapids. I’m trying to have<br />

him record my stuff now. We recorded<br />

the Extra Texture album together, so<br />

I’ve worked with him before. Put this<br />

on record, Dante Cope is recording<br />

at least 3 of those 8 (aforementioned)<br />

albums at Amber Lit Studios. Awesome<br />

shit.”<br />

Anyways, now you essentially live with<br />

a bunch of musicians as roommates.<br />

Do you feel like that helps cultivate<br />

your music at all?<br />

Cope: “That’s the plan.”<br />

Editors Notes:<br />

Since the last interview, Belve has since<br />

moved to SW Detroit, where he says<br />

no one is afraid of Pit Bulls there but<br />

him. He’s recently become a first time<br />

father and his new album BELVE is<br />

out now. The official music video for<br />

“Crem De La Crem” by Belve featuring<br />

The SEVENth, on Belve’s 2017 self titled<br />

EP, available on all major streaming<br />

platforms.<br />

Since the interview, Dante Cope has<br />

been kept in full grind mode with<br />

his 6 piece fusion Jazz and Hip-Hop<br />

band, Les Créatif. Check out Cope’s<br />

DEEP BLUES, off his brilliant and<br />

latest release Jasmine in the Brave New<br />

World. Available on Spotify, iTunes,<br />

and bandcamp.<br />

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Cant<br />

Stand<br />

The<br />

Midwest<br />

Erik Nervous – Assorted Anxieties LP (Neck Chop/ Drunken Sailor)<br />

Erik Nervous is from Shipshewana, but relocated to Kalamazoo to attend college.<br />

While most bands tend to take time to find their sound, Erik knew exactly what<br />

he wanted to sound like when he began recording. New-wave influenced punk<br />

songs for people with a short attention span. A genre stupidly called “Devo-core,”<br />

for people still mourning the loss of bands like CCTV and THE CONEHEADS.<br />

He has released material on many different labels, including TOTAL PUNK,<br />

NECK CHOP, DRUNKEN SAILOR, and DISCONTINUOUS INNOVATION.<br />

Keep in mind, he plays every instrument on each of his releases.<br />

Finally, we have Assorted Anxieties, a collection of all of his material to date and<br />

an unreleased track. I’m pleased to have the long player, because I was honestly<br />

getting tired of flipping over his 7” releases repeatedly, due to the addictive<br />

nature of his short but perfect punk songs.Themes of boredom, working mundane<br />

jobs, and having no money, which most people can relate to. If you haven’t<br />

already heard of him, he must be the best kept secret in the midwest. He will be<br />

back on tour this year with DATE NIGHT from Nashville. Live setup includes a<br />

full band which features Jeff Mahannah on drums, who is known for his artwork<br />

(EAT TO SURVIVE) and perfect timing. They will be playing in Grand Rapids<br />

on August 18th along with THE RESOURCE NETWORK, DATENIGHT, and<br />

LOST SYSTEM.<br />

By: Michael McFarlane<br />

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Dark Thoughts – At Work LP (Drunken<br />

Sailor/ Stupid Bags)<br />

I am not going to lie to you. I hate<br />

almost every pop-punk band I have<br />

heard. Even saying the name of the<br />

genre leaves a bad taste in my mouth,<br />

but to each their own…I guess. DARK<br />

THOUGHTS, a trio based in Philadelphia,<br />

are the one and only exception<br />

for me. “At Work” is their second<br />

album released by Stupid Bag Records,<br />

label which is ran by former Grand<br />

Rapids resident Jeff Bolt, who now<br />

lives in Philly.<br />

He has also done some Radiator<br />

Hospital releases, if that’s your thing.<br />

There is clearly a RAMONES influence<br />

to Dark Thoughts songs, but they find<br />

a way to make it their own instead of<br />

trying to recreate arguably the most<br />

well known punk band’s songs. This<br />

Philadelphia trio uses the same formula<br />

from their first LP, and produces<br />

another album that should be the<br />

soundtrack to your summer. Oh yeah,<br />

their album cover also resembles THE<br />

RAMONES second LP Leave Home,<br />

which means you could say they wear<br />

their influences on their (record)<br />

sleeve.<br />

Sex Tourists – S/T LP (Drunken Sailor)<br />

I am always impressed by the amount<br />

of incredibly talented post-punk<br />

bands that reside in Australia. TOTAL<br />

CONTROL, LOW LIFE, THE SHIFT-<br />

ERS, ORION, I could keep going, Sex<br />

Tourists are my new favorite. This album<br />

was actually released in 2017 but<br />

now has been repressed by DRUNKEN<br />

SAILOR due to popular demand. It<br />

reminds me of NEW ORDER, especially<br />

in their peak era (think Power,<br />

Corruptions, Lies). The songs are very<br />

catchy, driven by synths and drum<br />

machines, but also have a melancholy<br />

feel once the vocals come in. Songs<br />

about disconnect, that feel more relevant<br />

than ever in a society that is so<br />

connected by our smart phones that it<br />

seems like real life conversation is a dying<br />

art. Summed up best by their song<br />

“Guts”: “I’m staring at my phone, the<br />

signal tells me that I’m all alone.” This<br />

will sell out, so go buy a copy while you<br />

still can.<br />

Aquarium – S/T LP (LUMPY)<br />

Debut album from the Minneapolis<br />

band AQUARIUM, released on<br />

LUMPY RECORDS. It’s obvious at this<br />

point, that anything Lumpy (frontman<br />

of Lumpy & The Dumpers) puts out,<br />

should be on your radar. This is right<br />

up there with all of my other favorite<br />

releases and if you don’t know who I’m<br />

referring to, well, do your homework.<br />

Aquarium creates infectious, quick<br />

punk songs that will keep you coming<br />

back to this record. The vocalist sings<br />

in German, which may sound odd but<br />

the delivery is always on point and it<br />

makes this band stand out even more.<br />

Their drummer is also in URANIUM<br />

CLUB, which is one of my favorite<br />

bands coining the new wave punk<br />

sound since THE CONEHEADS or<br />

CCTV. For fans of the Jimmy Youtube<br />

Channel, which is now back with a<br />

new name of ANTI. One of the best<br />

places to keep up on weirdo punk.<br />

Stand out track for me has been “Hospital”<br />

which reminds me of the band<br />

PATSY -who released one of the best<br />

12’s last year.<br />

Gen Pop – (2) 7” (Feel It)<br />

One of Olympia’s finest bands, GEN<br />

POP, is back with their second 7” on<br />

FEEL IT RECORDS. Their first 7” also<br />

came out on LUMPY RECORDS,.<br />

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That’s a hell of a start for a new band,<br />

and two labels that I constantly keep<br />

up with. Gen Pop’s ability to switch<br />

tempos at the drop of a dime, along<br />

with the ability to cover several genres<br />

while retaining punk roots, makes<br />

this record very satisfying. Even when<br />

you think, “oh this must be their slow<br />

song,” they blast back into a frenetic<br />

riff with the rhythm section relentlessly<br />

keeping pace, leaving the listener disoriented<br />

and ready for more. I’m ready<br />

for a full length, myself.<br />

Gen Pop – (2) 7” (Feel It)<br />

One of Olympia’s finest bands, GEN<br />

POP, is back with their second 7” on<br />

FEEL IT RECORDS. Their first 7” also<br />

came out on LUMPY RECORDS,.<br />

That’s a hell of a start for a new band,<br />

and two labels that I constantly keep<br />

up with. Gen Pop’s ability to switch<br />

tempos at the drop of a dime, along<br />

with the ability to cover several genres<br />

while retaining punk roots, makes<br />

this record very satisfying. Even when<br />

you think, “oh this must be their slow<br />

song,” they blast back into a frenetic<br />

riff with the rhythm section relentlessly<br />

keeping pace, leaving the listener disoriented<br />

and ready for more. I’m ready<br />

for a full length, myself.<br />

Chain Cvlt – Demo MLP 12” (La Vida<br />

Es Un Mus)<br />

Chain Cult is a post-punk trio from<br />

Athens, Greece. Their demo tape sold<br />

out so quickly, that it’s already been<br />

pressed to vinyl by the best label in<br />

the business: LA VIDA ES UN MUS.<br />

Post-punk is sometimes hard to define,<br />

which is why the genre has always been<br />

fascinating to me. Chain Cult creates<br />

urgent and energetic post-punk, in<br />

the style of WARSAW. The bass lines<br />

set the tone for each song, along with<br />

sharp guitar lines, and pissed off<br />

vocals. Songs such as “State of Fear,”<br />

“Black Hole,” and “Lost Signal” take a<br />

hard look at the current state of world<br />

we now live in. “We are in a state of<br />

fear, It seems so far but it’s very near.”<br />

Blink and the demo is over before you<br />

know it.<br />

Vile Spirit – Demo cassette (Quality<br />

Control)<br />

After my favorite hardcore band ANX-<br />

IETY broke up recently, I was hoping<br />

to find another UK band that could<br />

match their intensity. VILE SPIRIT<br />

is here to fill the void. Only a demo<br />

tape to their name, made up of four<br />

songs but as far as demos go, this is<br />

on another level. Every time I put this<br />

tape on, somebody asks “who’s this?”<br />

I’ve found this to be a very good test to<br />

see if something will stand the test of<br />

time, or just be shuffled in with the rest<br />

of the music I’ve bought lately. This is<br />

absolutely brutal hardcore, not for the<br />

faint of heart. They beat you down with<br />

every track, and never slow down. Lyrically,<br />

the four songs show the vocalist<br />

self-destructing, contemplating past<br />

relationships, unable to relate to people<br />

he knows, and taking everyone down<br />

with him.<br />

Litchics – Mating Surfaces LP (Kill<br />

Rock Stars)<br />

Lithics are from Portland and make<br />

the kind of post-punk that seems<br />

to be thriving in the underground<br />

punk scene. For fans of SHOPPING,<br />

GAUCHE, and THE WORLD, but<br />

for me, they are easily the best of this<br />

group. That’s not to take anything away<br />

from the bands I mentioned before<br />

them, they are all incredible. If you<br />

haven’t heard any of these bands, well<br />

it’s time to change that. Maybe a better<br />

reference to older bands would be AU<br />

PAIRS or KLEENEX. That’s for you<br />

to decide. Minimalistic perfection on<br />

guitar, combined with a tight rhythm<br />

section and detached vocals. What<br />

more do you need?<br />

Snob – S/T LP (La Vida Es Un Mus)<br />

It’s crazy to me that Snob has existed<br />

since 2014 and have only self-released<br />

two 7”s. Well the full length released<br />

by the Disco Punk label LVEUM was<br />

well worth the wait. This has been by<br />

far my favorite release so far this year.<br />

Tense hardcore that is made up angry,<br />

snotty vocals, frantic guitar riffs, and<br />

a rhythm section that is going to beat<br />

you up from start to finish. The lyrics<br />

stand out the most for me, short and<br />

sweet, but tackling social issues in a<br />

clever, sometimes humorous way.<br />

Beta Blockers – Stiff Prescription (Static<br />

Shock)<br />

Beta Blockers create the kind of fast<br />

paced hardcore music I love, mixed<br />

with industrial elements that only add<br />

to the chaos. The debut LP from this<br />

Leeds/ Sheffield band might not be<br />

an easy one to stomach for the average<br />

listener. Seven songs clocking in<br />

at a mere eighteen minutes, the kind<br />

of basement set that leaves everyone<br />

yearning for more. Beta Blockers<br />

consist of members of THE FLEX, NO<br />

FORM, WHIPPING POST and COM-<br />

MUNITY. I could try to describe this<br />

band by telling you it’s a bizarre combination<br />

of two bands you might already<br />

know, but instead I am just going to<br />

say this is by far one of the best new<br />

hardcore bands I’ve heard in awhile.<br />

STATIC SHOCK records from London<br />

never disappoints, consistently putting<br />

out the best current bands. Limited<br />

pressing of 300 on white vinyl, get your<br />

hands on this one if you still can.<br />

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i think that this summer<br />

will be really really really<br />

something to write home about.<br />

maybe i’ll wear some purple sweatpants or win a can of baked beans<br />

MY VERSION OF AWESOME KARATE IS JUST EATING<br />

POPCORN ALONE IN A SEWER WITH MY DAD’S OLD<br />

CATCHER’S MITT FOR A BOWL<br />

for guessing correctly<br />

about just how miserable i am.<br />

sometimes i look at my wife’s new idea<br />

about how to sell life insurance<br />

to dead turtles and think<br />

“okay i get it. we’re not a real couple.<br />

so let’s just divide up our lawn full of dandelions civilly<br />

like a herd of muskrats would.”<br />

actually, we’ve never met.<br />

actually, she’s just someone i saw on a hair care commercial<br />

when i was bored and sad and lonely, so i said<br />

Kyle Flak likes tall emus and sparkly shoehorns. He often performs<br />

his poems while covered in waffle syrup. His most recent book is<br />

called I am Sorry for Everything in the Whole Entire Universe (Gold<br />

Wake Press, 2017). Some of his poems have been in jubilat, Mudfish,<br />

Poetry East, Spinning Jenny, Whiskey Island, and various other literary<br />

magazines. He wants to become a pinball machine or an oak tree.<br />

His next book is supposed to come out sometime in the year 2019.<br />

“okay, we’re married now.”<br />

then i fell asleep on my little bean bag chair from fourth grade<br />

and don’t remember what all happened after that, so<br />

probably i am dying from many horrible things right now<br />

like: enthusiasm for yo yos, pajama deficiency, hot air balloon drama,<br />

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and goat envy.<br />

i might wanna look all that up<br />

on the speed stick deodorant website later on<br />

to see if there’s a kind of deodorant that can cure me.<br />

but also, i’m allergic to all good things.<br />

that is, i’ve never had quote “a good thing goin’” unquote.<br />

i don’t drive convertibles down to the beach<br />

and lick ice cream cones mischievously<br />

while suggestively petting my own moustache.<br />

actually this is a love poem<br />

for a very tiny stapler i once met.<br />

one of those little tiny baby staplers.<br />

the kind that always get lost in backpacks<br />

or just thrown out<br />

on the last day of school.<br />

“who needs this?”<br />

“oh! me! me! me!”<br />

“okay, in the trash with you!”<br />

and then it’s all over:<br />

this poem, other poems, romance,<br />

maybe life itself<br />

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Contributors<br />

Zac Abid<br />

Jess Kwiatkowski<br />

Michael McFarlane<br />

Guadalupe Olgine Jr.<br />

Photographers<br />

Zac Abid<br />

Jenna Pewarchie<br />

a Note of<br />

THANKS<br />

<strong>Skip</strong><strong>Fiction</strong> is bigger than any one person. A lot of<br />

hands and heads help to do what we do every step<br />

along the way. From writers to photographers to<br />

designers, everyone in the community has taught us<br />

something along the way, and all the artists who their<br />

art - the reason we’re here in the first place.<br />

These are the people that helped us<br />

create this issue.<br />

Featured Musicians<br />

Sojii<br />

Wing Vilma<br />

Dante Cope<br />

Belve<br />

Featured Poets<br />

Kyle Flak<br />

Maria McKee<br />

<strong>Zine</strong> Designer<br />

Jenna Pewarchie<br />

Editors<br />

Schyler Perkins<br />

John Akers<br />

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