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28 — Vanguard, MONDAY APRIL 29, 2019<br />
STATE OF THE NATION:<br />
We’re back to<br />
NADECO days<br />
•Says Bucknor-Akerele<br />
•Buhari fighting war against PDP, not graft<br />
•It’s time to make National Assembly part-time<br />
Senator Kofoworola Louisa Bucknor-Akerele will be 80<br />
tomorrow, having been born on April 30, 1939. The<br />
journalist, lawyer, politician, botched Third Republic<br />
senator, and former deputy governor of Lagos, played a<br />
crucial role in the battle to return Nigeria to the democratic<br />
path in 1999 through the National Democratic Coalition,<br />
NADECO. In this interview at her Ikoyi, Lagos home, the<br />
octogenarian, who is a chieftain of the Peoples Democratic<br />
Party, PDP, spoke on the state of the nation and lamented that<br />
Nigeria is back to the NADECO days. She also spoke on why<br />
the PDP lost the governorship election in Lagos, why cost of<br />
running the National Assembly should be cut down and the<br />
legislature made part-time among others. Excerpts:<br />
By Clifford Ndujihe, Acting Political Editor<br />
On why the PDP lost the<br />
L a g o s<br />
governorship election<br />
Well, we thought we should<br />
have got it this time around but<br />
Jimi Agbaje did not relate with<br />
the party. And then he w<strong>as</strong> on his<br />
own. I think that w<strong>as</strong> what<br />
happened and we lost.<br />
The loss seems to be creating<br />
more crisis in Lagos PDP...<br />
There is no crisis in the party.<br />
What about chairmanship<br />
crisis?<br />
There is no chairmanship<br />
crisis; we have one chap (Segun<br />
Adewale) who w<strong>as</strong> previously a<br />
member of our party, he left,<br />
went to his state, which is Ekiti<br />
to contest governorship election.<br />
He failed and now, mysteriously,<br />
he is coming back to say he is<br />
the chairman of the party. I don’t<br />
know whether he is all right.<br />
What are the elders doing<br />
about that?<br />
We have brought the police to<br />
clear the boys he put in the<br />
party’s secretariat and we are<br />
fully back in control of the party.<br />
What is your <strong>as</strong>sessment of<br />
the 2019 general elections?<br />
I am really disappointed in the<br />
l<strong>as</strong>t election because there w<strong>as</strong><br />
gross intimidation of voters,<br />
open buying of votes, election<br />
w<strong>as</strong> rigged in many places,<br />
figures were just written and<br />
handed over to the Independent<br />
National Electoral Commission,<br />
INEC, to announce <strong>as</strong> results.<br />
Where did this happen? Is it<br />
in all the states?<br />
In virtually all the states<br />
especially in Lagos. I had the<br />
experience because I w<strong>as</strong> on the<br />
field. It w<strong>as</strong> open. In my ward,<br />
there w<strong>as</strong> a car that w<strong>as</strong> brought<br />
with money and people were<br />
going to take money openly and<br />
the security agents stood by and<br />
watched.<br />
Which ward w<strong>as</strong> that?<br />
Ward H2 in Victoria Island.<br />
What is your advice to INEC<br />
to ensure better polls in future?<br />
I think this INEC should be<br />
dissolved and sent packing. So,<br />
I can’t give them any advice.<br />
They claimed they were using<br />
card readers so that people could<br />
not vote more than once but<br />
people were voting more than<br />
Highlights<br />
once.<br />
On the high number of<br />
petitions, 776, filed in 2019, the<br />
second highest since 1999 after<br />
the 1,290 petitions that were<br />
filed after the 2007 polls<br />
It goes to show what happened<br />
during the elections. If the<br />
elections were free and fair there<br />
won’t be petitions.<br />
Her take on the PDP<br />
presidential candidate, Alhaji<br />
Atiku Abubakar’s petition<br />
against President Muhammadu<br />
Buhari at the tribunal<br />
It is an excellent petition. I just<br />
pray that the judges will have the<br />
courage to do the right thing.<br />
What is the right thing?<br />
The right thing is to pronounce<br />
Atiku Abubakar the winner of the<br />
election. It is obvious that he<br />
won that election but the election<br />
w<strong>as</strong> rigged.<br />
Her take on the All<br />
Progressives Congress, APC’s<br />
claim at the tribunal that Atiku<br />
Abubakar is not a Nigerian<br />
That is utterly ridiculous. How<br />
can a man who is not a Nigerian<br />
join the Customs Service, rise to<br />
the highest rank in that service,<br />
contest for the presidency several<br />
times, and became vice president<br />
of the country and it is now they<br />
discovered he is not a Nigerian.<br />
•We are back to the NADECO days<br />
•Buhari fighting war against PDP, not corruption<br />
• National Assembly should be part-time, running cost too high<br />
•Agbaje let the party down and lost Lagos gov poll<br />
• Segun Adewale is not Lagos PDP chairman<br />
• 2019 polls were militarised, rigged<br />
• INEC should be dissolved<br />
• It’s ridiculous to say Atiku is not a Nigerian<br />
• APC can’t dictate to NASS how to choose their leaders<br />
• How government can recognise June 12<br />
• Buhari’s performance is dismal<br />
• How we can save our democracy<br />
I don't know<br />
which APC leader<br />
performed well in<br />
Lagos State.<br />
Babatunde<br />
F<strong>as</strong>hola w<strong>as</strong> there,<br />
he planted<br />
flowers. Ambode<br />
did his little bit, at<br />
le<strong>as</strong>t he cleared<br />
Oshodi of the<br />
mess that w<strong>as</strong><br />
there and built a<br />
few roads<br />
In any c<strong>as</strong>e, I think in his reply<br />
to that he h<strong>as</strong> given them the<br />
relevant answer. The APC likes<br />
to play to the gallery and this is<br />
•Bucknor-Akerele<br />
one of their gambits.<br />
On comments that the 2019<br />
polls were militarised<br />
yes, it w<strong>as</strong> militarised because<br />
it w<strong>as</strong> done in my ward also. The<br />
soldiers came, obviously, to<br />
intimidate people and some of<br />
us faced up to them and didn’t<br />
allow them to get away with it.<br />
How can we end<br />
militarisation of elections?<br />
The military should not be<br />
involved in our elections at all.<br />
Their job is to ensure the<br />
integrity of the country and not<br />
to be involved in election.<br />
On the APC adoption of<br />
Senator Ahmad Lawan <strong>as</strong><br />
Senate President and Mr Femi<br />
Gbajabiamila <strong>as</strong> Speaker of the<br />
Ninth National Assembly<br />
I don’t know whether their<br />
rules have changed since I w<strong>as</strong><br />
in the Senate but normally, the<br />
National Assembly chooses its<br />
own leaders and that is done by<br />
all the concerned parties in the<br />
National Assembly. It is not the<br />
party that dictates who should<br />
be their leaders.<br />
Could you recall some of the<br />
good things the Third National<br />
Assembly you belonged to did<br />
in 1993?<br />
We stood firm on June 12<br />
election and some of us gathered<br />
ourselves and tabled a<br />
resolution <strong>as</strong>king that the results<br />
be announced and Chief M.K.O<br />
Abiola declared the winner.<br />
Some of us were arrested <strong>as</strong> a<br />
result of that <strong>as</strong> you are well<br />
aware.<br />
What is your take on President<br />
Bhari’s recognition of June 12<br />
<strong>as</strong> Democracy Day?<br />
Have they declared Abiola <strong>as</strong><br />
the winner of the June 12, 1993<br />
presidential election?<br />
Recognising June 12 <strong>as</strong><br />
democracy day is a different<br />
thing. What they should do is to<br />
announce the result and<br />
apologise to the country for the<br />
annulment.<br />
On the exchanges among<br />
Asiwaju Bola Ahmed<br />
Tinubu, Senate President<br />
Bukola Saraki and<br />
House<br />
of<br />
Representatives<br />
S p e a k e r ,<br />
Y a k u b u<br />
Dogara on<br />
allegations<br />
that the Eight<br />
National<br />
Assembly<br />
hampered<br />
President<br />
Buhari’s<br />
projects and<br />
plans for the<br />
country<br />
I don’t see how they<br />
hampered the progress of<br />
the<br />
President’s<br />
administration. I think the<br />
President Buhari hampered<br />
his own progress by not<br />
delivering his promises to the<br />
people.<br />
Tinubu accused them of<br />
delaying and padding<br />
budgets<br />
He should<br />
prove where<br />
and how they<br />
p a d d e d<br />
budgets. He<br />
should not<br />
m a k e<br />
allegations<br />
without proof.<br />
Really, can<br />
the National<br />
Assembly<br />
pad budgets?<br />
I don’t think<br />
so.<br />
As a lawyer,<br />
what is your<br />
take on the<br />
Justice Walter Onnoghen’s<br />
saga?<br />
It w<strong>as</strong> obvious that some<br />
elements wanted Justice<br />
Onnoghen out of the way. So far,<br />
they seem to have succeeded<br />
although Justice Onnoghen h<strong>as</strong><br />
appealed and we await the result<br />
of his appeal. Not only that, the<br />
person who w<strong>as</strong> sentencing<br />
Onnoghen h<strong>as</strong> accusations to<br />
answer. I don’t see how a man<br />
who is being accused of<br />
corruption is sitting in judgement<br />
against another man.<br />
The Economic and Financial<br />
Crimes Commission, EFCC,<br />
h<strong>as</strong> cleared him...<br />
I am not aware of that.<br />
So far, how would you <strong>as</strong>sess<br />
the performance of President<br />
Buhari?<br />
Dismal. Absolutely dismal.<br />
Personally, I would have thought<br />
that having done one term,<br />
especially with his health issues,<br />
he would quietly retire and<br />
allow another healthier and<br />
more dynamic person run for the<br />
presidency but he is there.<br />
You think he h<strong>as</strong> not<br />
performed in tacking<br />
insecurity?<br />
Certainly not, giving the way<br />
people are being killed every<br />
day. They said they had defeated<br />
Boko Haram but there is<br />
bombing all the time, there is<br />
kidnapping, which we did not<br />
have before. The security issue<br />
h<strong>as</strong> deteriorated considerably.<br />
What about the economy?<br />
We all know that the economy<br />
is in doldrums. Go and look at<br />
all the industrial estates and see<br />
the number of factories that have<br />
closed.<br />
What about the war against<br />
corruption?<br />
I don’t think he h<strong>as</strong> done well<br />
in the war against corruption. I<br />
think it is war against the PDP.<br />
That is how I see it. Why is it that<br />
you are fighting war against<br />
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