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28 — Vanguard, MONDAY APRIL 29, 2019<br />

STATE OF THE NATION:<br />

We’re back to<br />

NADECO days<br />

•Says Bucknor-Akerele<br />

•Buhari fighting war against PDP, not graft<br />

•It’s time to make National Assembly part-time<br />

Senator Kofoworola Louisa Bucknor-Akerele will be 80<br />

tomorrow, having been born on April 30, 1939. The<br />

journalist, lawyer, politician, botched Third Republic<br />

senator, and former deputy governor of Lagos, played a<br />

crucial role in the battle to return Nigeria to the democratic<br />

path in 1999 through the National Democratic Coalition,<br />

NADECO. In this interview at her Ikoyi, Lagos home, the<br />

octogenarian, who is a chieftain of the Peoples Democratic<br />

Party, PDP, spoke on the state of the nation and lamented that<br />

Nigeria is back to the NADECO days. She also spoke on why<br />

the PDP lost the governorship election in Lagos, why cost of<br />

running the National Assembly should be cut down and the<br />

legislature made part-time among others. Excerpts:<br />

By Clifford Ndujihe, Acting Political Editor<br />

On why the PDP lost the<br />

L a g o s<br />

governorship election<br />

Well, we thought we should<br />

have got it this time around but<br />

Jimi Agbaje did not relate with<br />

the party. And then he w<strong>as</strong> on his<br />

own. I think that w<strong>as</strong> what<br />

happened and we lost.<br />

The loss seems to be creating<br />

more crisis in Lagos PDP...<br />

There is no crisis in the party.<br />

What about chairmanship<br />

crisis?<br />

There is no chairmanship<br />

crisis; we have one chap (Segun<br />

Adewale) who w<strong>as</strong> previously a<br />

member of our party, he left,<br />

went to his state, which is Ekiti<br />

to contest governorship election.<br />

He failed and now, mysteriously,<br />

he is coming back to say he is<br />

the chairman of the party. I don’t<br />

know whether he is all right.<br />

What are the elders doing<br />

about that?<br />

We have brought the police to<br />

clear the boys he put in the<br />

party’s secretariat and we are<br />

fully back in control of the party.<br />

What is your <strong>as</strong>sessment of<br />

the 2019 general elections?<br />

I am really disappointed in the<br />

l<strong>as</strong>t election because there w<strong>as</strong><br />

gross intimidation of voters,<br />

open buying of votes, election<br />

w<strong>as</strong> rigged in many places,<br />

figures were just written and<br />

handed over to the Independent<br />

National Electoral Commission,<br />

INEC, to announce <strong>as</strong> results.<br />

Where did this happen? Is it<br />

in all the states?<br />

In virtually all the states<br />

especially in Lagos. I had the<br />

experience because I w<strong>as</strong> on the<br />

field. It w<strong>as</strong> open. In my ward,<br />

there w<strong>as</strong> a car that w<strong>as</strong> brought<br />

with money and people were<br />

going to take money openly and<br />

the security agents stood by and<br />

watched.<br />

Which ward w<strong>as</strong> that?<br />

Ward H2 in Victoria Island.<br />

What is your advice to INEC<br />

to ensure better polls in future?<br />

I think this INEC should be<br />

dissolved and sent packing. So,<br />

I can’t give them any advice.<br />

They claimed they were using<br />

card readers so that people could<br />

not vote more than once but<br />

people were voting more than<br />

Highlights<br />

once.<br />

On the high number of<br />

petitions, 776, filed in 2019, the<br />

second highest since 1999 after<br />

the 1,290 petitions that were<br />

filed after the 2007 polls<br />

It goes to show what happened<br />

during the elections. If the<br />

elections were free and fair there<br />

won’t be petitions.<br />

Her take on the PDP<br />

presidential candidate, Alhaji<br />

Atiku Abubakar’s petition<br />

against President Muhammadu<br />

Buhari at the tribunal<br />

It is an excellent petition. I just<br />

pray that the judges will have the<br />

courage to do the right thing.<br />

What is the right thing?<br />

The right thing is to pronounce<br />

Atiku Abubakar the winner of the<br />

election. It is obvious that he<br />

won that election but the election<br />

w<strong>as</strong> rigged.<br />

Her take on the All<br />

Progressives Congress, APC’s<br />

claim at the tribunal that Atiku<br />

Abubakar is not a Nigerian<br />

That is utterly ridiculous. How<br />

can a man who is not a Nigerian<br />

join the Customs Service, rise to<br />

the highest rank in that service,<br />

contest for the presidency several<br />

times, and became vice president<br />

of the country and it is now they<br />

discovered he is not a Nigerian.<br />

•We are back to the NADECO days<br />

•Buhari fighting war against PDP, not corruption<br />

• National Assembly should be part-time, running cost too high<br />

•Agbaje let the party down and lost Lagos gov poll<br />

• Segun Adewale is not Lagos PDP chairman<br />

• 2019 polls were militarised, rigged<br />

• INEC should be dissolved<br />

• It’s ridiculous to say Atiku is not a Nigerian<br />

• APC can’t dictate to NASS how to choose their leaders<br />

• How government can recognise June 12<br />

• Buhari’s performance is dismal<br />

• How we can save our democracy<br />

I don't know<br />

which APC leader<br />

performed well in<br />

Lagos State.<br />

Babatunde<br />

F<strong>as</strong>hola w<strong>as</strong> there,<br />

he planted<br />

flowers. Ambode<br />

did his little bit, at<br />

le<strong>as</strong>t he cleared<br />

Oshodi of the<br />

mess that w<strong>as</strong><br />

there and built a<br />

few roads<br />

In any c<strong>as</strong>e, I think in his reply<br />

to that he h<strong>as</strong> given them the<br />

relevant answer. The APC likes<br />

to play to the gallery and this is<br />

•Bucknor-Akerele<br />

one of their gambits.<br />

On comments that the 2019<br />

polls were militarised<br />

yes, it w<strong>as</strong> militarised because<br />

it w<strong>as</strong> done in my ward also. The<br />

soldiers came, obviously, to<br />

intimidate people and some of<br />

us faced up to them and didn’t<br />

allow them to get away with it.<br />

How can we end<br />

militarisation of elections?<br />

The military should not be<br />

involved in our elections at all.<br />

Their job is to ensure the<br />

integrity of the country and not<br />

to be involved in election.<br />

On the APC adoption of<br />

Senator Ahmad Lawan <strong>as</strong><br />

Senate President and Mr Femi<br />

Gbajabiamila <strong>as</strong> Speaker of the<br />

Ninth National Assembly<br />

I don’t know whether their<br />

rules have changed since I w<strong>as</strong><br />

in the Senate but normally, the<br />

National Assembly chooses its<br />

own leaders and that is done by<br />

all the concerned parties in the<br />

National Assembly. It is not the<br />

party that dictates who should<br />

be their leaders.<br />

Could you recall some of the<br />

good things the Third National<br />

Assembly you belonged to did<br />

in 1993?<br />

We stood firm on June 12<br />

election and some of us gathered<br />

ourselves and tabled a<br />

resolution <strong>as</strong>king that the results<br />

be announced and Chief M.K.O<br />

Abiola declared the winner.<br />

Some of us were arrested <strong>as</strong> a<br />

result of that <strong>as</strong> you are well<br />

aware.<br />

What is your take on President<br />

Bhari’s recognition of June 12<br />

<strong>as</strong> Democracy Day?<br />

Have they declared Abiola <strong>as</strong><br />

the winner of the June 12, 1993<br />

presidential election?<br />

Recognising June 12 <strong>as</strong><br />

democracy day is a different<br />

thing. What they should do is to<br />

announce the result and<br />

apologise to the country for the<br />

annulment.<br />

On the exchanges among<br />

Asiwaju Bola Ahmed<br />

Tinubu, Senate President<br />

Bukola Saraki and<br />

House<br />

of<br />

Representatives<br />

S p e a k e r ,<br />

Y a k u b u<br />

Dogara on<br />

allegations<br />

that the Eight<br />

National<br />

Assembly<br />

hampered<br />

President<br />

Buhari’s<br />

projects and<br />

plans for the<br />

country<br />

I don’t see how they<br />

hampered the progress of<br />

the<br />

President’s<br />

administration. I think the<br />

President Buhari hampered<br />

his own progress by not<br />

delivering his promises to the<br />

people.<br />

Tinubu accused them of<br />

delaying and padding<br />

budgets<br />

He should<br />

prove where<br />

and how they<br />

p a d d e d<br />

budgets. He<br />

should not<br />

m a k e<br />

allegations<br />

without proof.<br />

Really, can<br />

the National<br />

Assembly<br />

pad budgets?<br />

I don’t think<br />

so.<br />

As a lawyer,<br />

what is your<br />

take on the<br />

Justice Walter Onnoghen’s<br />

saga?<br />

It w<strong>as</strong> obvious that some<br />

elements wanted Justice<br />

Onnoghen out of the way. So far,<br />

they seem to have succeeded<br />

although Justice Onnoghen h<strong>as</strong><br />

appealed and we await the result<br />

of his appeal. Not only that, the<br />

person who w<strong>as</strong> sentencing<br />

Onnoghen h<strong>as</strong> accusations to<br />

answer. I don’t see how a man<br />

who is being accused of<br />

corruption is sitting in judgement<br />

against another man.<br />

The Economic and Financial<br />

Crimes Commission, EFCC,<br />

h<strong>as</strong> cleared him...<br />

I am not aware of that.<br />

So far, how would you <strong>as</strong>sess<br />

the performance of President<br />

Buhari?<br />

Dismal. Absolutely dismal.<br />

Personally, I would have thought<br />

that having done one term,<br />

especially with his health issues,<br />

he would quietly retire and<br />

allow another healthier and<br />

more dynamic person run for the<br />

presidency but he is there.<br />

You think he h<strong>as</strong> not<br />

performed in tacking<br />

insecurity?<br />

Certainly not, giving the way<br />

people are being killed every<br />

day. They said they had defeated<br />

Boko Haram but there is<br />

bombing all the time, there is<br />

kidnapping, which we did not<br />

have before. The security issue<br />

h<strong>as</strong> deteriorated considerably.<br />

What about the economy?<br />

We all know that the economy<br />

is in doldrums. Go and look at<br />

all the industrial estates and see<br />

the number of factories that have<br />

closed.<br />

What about the war against<br />

corruption?<br />

I don’t think he h<strong>as</strong> done well<br />

in the war against corruption. I<br />

think it is war against the PDP.<br />

That is how I see it. Why is it that<br />

you are fighting war against<br />

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