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Kids<br />

Kitchen<br />

Communism<br />

Antje Mayer: What was the situation as regards<br />

equal rights between men and women in the<br />

countries of the former East bloc and Yugoslavia?<br />

Marija Wakounig: judging this in retrospect remains<br />

a great problem, as up to the present there<br />

are not sufficient studies, figures and scientific<br />

publications on the theme of gender research<br />

in Eastern, East-central and South-eastern Europe.<br />

Even though in recent years enormous<br />

progress has been made in this field and there is<br />

constant academic exchange between East and<br />

West European researchers, and the “Western<br />

imperialist methods”, which south-east Europeans<br />

in particular complain about, have been rectified<br />

to some extent. One ought not forget that<br />

the current gender discourse in Eastern, East-<br />

central and South-eastern European countries<br />

did not develop out of a political women’s movement.<br />

Under Communism women’s groups were<br />

directed by the state.<br />

There are not many publications on women’s<br />

issues and gender issues in the entire Eastern<br />

European area. In this context the book that I<br />

published in 2003: “Die Gläserne Decke. <strong>Frauen</strong><br />

in Ost-, Ostmittel- und Südosteuropa im 20.<br />

Jahrhundert”, on which a number of Austrian<br />

and foreign colleagues collaborated with their<br />

contributions and organised a circle of readings<br />

with me, can be seen as the first descriptive synthesis.<br />

How much was known in the East about women’s<br />

movements in the West?<br />

There were many contacts with Western women’s<br />

movements, particularly during the 1980s<br />

shortly before the fall of the Iron Curtain. The<br />

situation for activists was extremely difficult.<br />

For example in 1979 dissidents from Leningrad<br />

published in Samizdat (an underground selfpublication)<br />

a report that provided information<br />

on the unequal situation of women in the Soviet<br />

Union, attacked the poor situation in the abortion<br />

clinics and the brutality of men towards<br />

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women within the family, which they linked to<br />

the major problem of alcoholism in the Soviet<br />

Union. The authors were watched by the KGB<br />

and in 1981 were even expelled from the country.<br />

For example in an empirical survey for the town<br />

of Taganrog in 1968/69 Natalija Rimasevskja<br />

described that women with children were given<br />

fewer job chances and were considerably worse<br />

paid and so forth. This study could only be published<br />

some twenty years later !<br />

In general were the Communist countries ahead<br />

of the West as regards equal rights?<br />

What we can say with certainty is that the First<br />

World War and the post-war order instigated a<br />

so-called turnaround in most Eastern European<br />

countries when it was revealed that the female<br />

population had preserved the social infrastructure<br />

and social life. It was possible for women<br />

in most Eastern European countries to derive<br />

benefits from their “services for humanity” and<br />

their revolutionary commitment in Russia, even<br />

if it only amounted to the right to vote. This, of<br />

course, altered little about the old role models.<br />

Women in Yugoslavia were completely excluded<br />

and only got the vote in 1946. In the interwar period<br />

Russia or the Soviet Union showed itself to<br />

be particularly liberal: civil marriage had been<br />

introduced in 1917 and divorce law had been liberalised,<br />

in 1918 the equality of the sexes in both<br />

private and public life was anchored and in 1920<br />

termination of pregnancy was decriminalised.<br />

Did it stay that way?<br />

To summarise briefly one could say that in the<br />

Thirties – as a consequence of socio-economic<br />

changes – in the entire Eastern European area<br />

the significance of traditional role models began<br />

to grow again. The noticeable decline in births<br />

lead to various countermeasures: in the Soviet<br />

Union, for demographic reasons, abortion was<br />

once again made a crime, and from 1935 the<br />

value of the family was again propagated as a<br />

MAGAZINE FOR ARTS AND CIVIL SOCIETY IN CENTRAL AND EASTERN EUROPE / Women in the East and the West<br />

socialist microcosm for Soviet society. In 1936,<br />

in an article contributed to the newspaper “Rabota”,<br />

Stalin wrote that having children was<br />

not a private affair but the honourable duty of<br />

the woman. At this time the „Ženskij vopros“<br />

(the women’s question) was seen officially as<br />

“solved”. In the Kingdom of Yugoslavia singles<br />

or childless couples were more heavily taxed<br />

and larger families were treated preferentially;<br />

in Slovenia a publication dealt with the “threat<br />

of the suicide of a nation” in which the blame<br />

was ascribed to “selfish” women.<br />

But until the Eighties women from the Soviet<br />

Union held the record regarding abortions, isn’t<br />

that true?<br />

Information on birth control was poor, there<br />

was no birth control pill, the quality of condoms<br />

was, to say the least, inadequate. Abortion was<br />

the most frequently used method of “natural”<br />

birth control, often carried out inexpertly, causing<br />

damage to health and not infrequently leading<br />

to death. Socially, abortion was not officially<br />

accepted, but was seen as the last resort (the<br />

so-called medical indication). But in the Soviet<br />

Union the practice was very different.<br />

What was the situation regarding equal rights<br />

between men and women in the three decades<br />

before the collapse of Communism in 1989?<br />

As is known the range of social services and<br />

the educational level of women in the Communist<br />

countries were good. There was liberalised<br />

legislation as regards marriage, use of married<br />

names, voting and abortion. At first glance this<br />

allowed women – in contrast to the initial situation<br />

in the West – more equality with men, particularly<br />

in the 1970s and 1980s. Children’s daycare<br />

centres were free of charge, from the 1970s<br />

in a number of countries a small financial contribution<br />

was required. For example, from 1976<br />

Slovene fathers were allowed to take half of the<br />

“maternity” leave. In general terms it should be<br />

said that the equality anchored in the individual

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