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<strong>FLUMO</strong><br />
(Air Dry Slip-No Kiln)<br />
http://www.green-ceramics.com/<br />
<strong>LI</strong>-<strong>QUA</strong>-CHÉ<br />
(Pourable Paper Mache – Air Dry Slip - Non-Fired Casting Compound-No Kiln)<br />
http://www.activaproducts.com/<br />
http://www.activaproducts.com/attachments/article/82/Li_qua_che_Product_Sheet.pdf<br />
http://members.tripod.com/~garnettes_miniatures/TUTORIALS/Liquache.html<br />
http://www.activaproducts.com/attachments/article/84/Activa%20Li%20Qua%20Che%20Technique.pdf<br />
Hi everyone,<br />
MSAT<strong>Mini</strong><strong>Doll</strong>s Posts – October, 2011<br />
I was browsing the internet a couple of days ago and came across a product called Flumo made by<br />
Green-Ceramics.<br />
http://www.green-ceramics.com/<br />
I don't have a kiln, so this product piqued my interest as it looks relatively easy to use. It would also<br />
give me a wider choice of molds to purchase by not just being limited to pre-made dolls.<br />
Have you heard of, or know of someone that has tried this product? What are your thoughts on it? I<br />
hate to spend money on this if it's gets a bad review.<br />
Thanks much for your input. Hope you enjoy your weekend,<br />
Terre<br />
in Sandy, Oregon<br />
http://community.webshots.com/user/miniaturetreasures<br />
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Hi Terre,<br />
I’ve used Flumo and like it very much. You can use the same molds used for porcelain. However since<br />
Flumo doesn’t shrink like porcelain it’s best to use the molds that tend to produce smaller dolls in
order to stay true to 1/12 scale. At least that’s what I’ve read. I have used the same molds for both<br />
because my theory is, all people aren’t the same size and I’ve been very satisfied. A former member,<br />
Esther Marker from India, has a wonderful site featuring dolls made of this product. If I can find the<br />
address I’ll send it to you. If I can find a picture of one of my dolls made from Flumo I’ll send also.<br />
I’d say give it a try.<br />
Hugs, Louise Riley in NC<br />
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www.magicminiatures.com is the address for some lovely dolls made from Flumo as well as other<br />
products Esther has. She’s a dream to work with and if you contact her please tell her I recommended<br />
her site.<br />
Hugs, Louise R.<br />
<strong>Mini</strong> Creations by Jonlou<br />
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Terre:<br />
I've heard of it, have some (haven't used it yet), & have heard wonderful things about it. Since it<br />
doesn't shrink as much as porcelain does, you usually need to purchase doll molds that run small. I<br />
can't remember the line (but someone on this list should), but there are molds out there that make<br />
1/12th scale dolls on the smaller end of the gamut. Remember, porcelain shrinks about 20%, Flumo<br />
shrinks a lot less.<br />
Try and find some used molds (which you can usually get fairly cheap) and play around with them<br />
before forking out the big bucks for the new molds. A source of used molds are dollmakers that pour<br />
and fire in quantity. They use up molds pretty quick and have been known to sell the used molds fairly<br />
inexpensively - just ask. Also, though I hate to say it, Ebay (not my favorite company) is another source.<br />
Hope this helps some.<br />
Marilyn H.<br />
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I have tried it and am still working on making sure I get all the bubbles out J<br />
. . . the tutorial is how I learned and it is wonderful, it is not my tutorial.<br />
http://www.magicminiatures.com/TutorialFlumo.htm<br />
Lorraine<br />
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Hello,<br />
I used only and exclusively Flumo to make my dolls ! It's easy to use, to paint and I love it.<br />
You could look at my blog to see my work with this fantastic product.<br />
http://pathy-dolls.blogspot.com/<br />
Cheers from France,<br />
Pathy
My blog on dolls : http://pathy-dolls.blogspot.com/<br />
French Supporter of MSAT<strong>Mini</strong>dolls !! :-)<br />
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Regarding the Flumo. It's true that it doesn't shrink like porcelain does, but it was suggested to me<br />
that you use the smaller sized doll molds. Doreen Sinnett doll molds were ones that were suggested to<br />
me to be a good size.<br />
This person's FB page has a You-Tube video on how to pour Flumo as well as cleaning the mold:<br />
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Flumo-Air-Dry-Casting-Slip/112843462125757<br />
At the time I purchased it, it was sold only at one place and this person had way too much drama for<br />
me. Wouldn't mind, but she would constantly send out newsletters describing her troubles and why<br />
she didn't have this or that. IMO not a good selling tactic in my book.<br />
I found another source for Flumo. I haven't use this company myself, but it may be worth a look:<br />
http://www.green-ceramics.com/onlinestore.htm<br />
If you do a search, there may be others that sell it now.<br />
Thanks,<br />
CyndiK in MA<br />
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Hi Terre...I saw your posting on Msat and have more information for you about Flumo and Liquache.<br />
They are both pourable (non-firing) slips. They harden in the air.<br />
I have never used them myself but many customers do with great success.<br />
The link to the Flumo tutorial that Lorraine Felt sent you is the best!<br />
It was done by Esther van der Spek who lives in India....here it is again.<br />
http://www.magicminiatures.com/TutorialFlumo.htm<br />
I have only used porcelain, I have never used any of these non-firing slips.<br />
But there is a need and use for these other non-firing pourable materials.<br />
1-If you don't have a kiln but still want to make dolls and other doll house items.<br />
2-To make dolls for children to play with, once hardened, you can be bounce the casting on the floor<br />
and they will not break.<br />
3- To make doll house accessories, jewelry etc.<br />
Like Zofia explained to you, Flumo shrinks very little.<br />
Liquache shrinks a little more than Flumo but the adult dolls that come from the 1" to 1' scale molds<br />
are still too large for a 1" scale doll house.<br />
Porcelain slip will shrink an average of about 15%.<br />
So castings from Flumo and Liquache will be 15% taller and fatter.<br />
But there are some ways you can get around that problem.<br />
1- Use a more petite 1" scale lady doll mold. My Dawn Adam molds are more petite (delicate) than<br />
most other 1" scale dolls.<br />
2- You can use a teenager mold like Parker-Levi's Kelly or Little women for the correct size.
3-You can use a child mold, children come in all sizes so this gives you lots of choices.<br />
Here are some links on my website where you can see some molds that will work with the Flumo and<br />
Liquache.<br />
If you decide to try it, please ask me or any other mold company if the mold you are buying will be the<br />
correct scale in Liquache of Flumo.<br />
(Not all molds on these pages will work)<br />
http://www.houseofcaron.com/house_of_caron.htm<br />
http://www.houseofcaron.com/PL%20children.htm<br />
http://www.houseofcaron.com/mystic_molds.htm<br />
http://www.houseofcaron.com/fairy%20molds.htm<br />
http://www.houseofcaron.com/doll%20house%20items.htm<br />
http://www.houseofcaron.com/mary%20dolls.htm<br />
I have some printed information about Liquache, it explains what it is and how to use it.<br />
I give copies of it to customers that tell me they are going to use Liquache or Flumo in our molds. Here<br />
is the link to the company that sells Liquache:<br />
http://www.activaproducts.com<br />
I hope I have helped...Have a Great Day...Sincerely...Jackie Caron<br />
www.houseofcaron.com<br />
Proud member of MSAT<strong>Mini</strong><strong>Doll</strong>s@yahoogroups.com<br />
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Hi Jackie and thank you so much for all your precisions ! We just had a talk about molds with a friend<br />
and wondering which one was best for using flumo and YOU answer it ! Great !!!<br />
Now we know !<br />
Have a nice day<br />
Nathalie Mori<br />
proud member of the <strong>Mini</strong><strong>Doll</strong>s<strong>List</strong><br />
my doll website:<br />
http://nathaliemori.com/<br />
my miniatures website:<br />
http://mininounours.free.fr/<br />
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Hi everyone . . .<br />
I have been pretty quiet lately on the list but I have kept up with the emails and have enjoyed reading<br />
and seeing all the tips , pictures etc. ..Thanks to everyone for all the ideas and eye candy! I have just<br />
been in a slump..you know how that goes!<br />
This last subject re flumo and pouring is of particular interest because I have been wanting to get a<br />
kiln. I have been gradually buying molds..do not have many but enough to make a start!
My question is . . . I need advice on a good kiln and where to buy the slip. I know that this was a topic<br />
some while back but of course I can not find the info. There are various kilns out there and as it is<br />
quite an expense I want to make sure I get the right one!!<br />
Any advice/guidance would be greatly appreciated.<br />
Best wishes<br />
Nicolette<br />
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Dear Nicolette,<br />
My best suggestion, as everyone has a favorite, is to look up on the internet for Cress Kilns, AIM kilns,<br />
Paragon kilns, etc. Click the store locator button and see if there is one nearest you or with in a days<br />
drive of you. Sounds like a lot, but trust me, a tank of gas is cheaper than some of the shipping costs,<br />
AND you get to see the product. I personally use Paragon kilns. However, many of my friends have<br />
other kilns as well and they are quite happy. See one, and figure out what all you need. Call and talk to<br />
the distributor. There could be a show deal or a county fair or something of that kind.<br />
Be aware the "furniture" (stilts, shelves, etc.) could be extra, but there might be a "deal" going on so be<br />
sure to ask. Also, be aware of the plug and electricity. Mine has a dedicated outlet, like the dryer has<br />
and may need an electrician to install it. Some can use household current, but I have to tell you I have<br />
no experience at that. One of my friends says the elements go out a lot on hers, but it might depend<br />
on a lot of things I have no knowledge of.<br />
Kiln sitters are a dream in my opinion and worth the extra money. Today, I wouldn't have one without<br />
it.<br />
That's my best advice.<br />
Kathi Mendenhall, IGMA Artisan<br />
http://creativedoll.blogspot.com/<br />
http://www.minidolllist.com<br />
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Hi Everyone...I am glad my posting about Flumo and Liquache helped answer some questions.<br />
Thank you for your personal emails and comments.<br />
Tracey, You asked for information on painting the Flumo and Liquache.<br />
As far as I know you can use almost anything to paint these non-fired slips.<br />
Your own makeup, acrylics (oil and water base), stain glass paints, glazes.<br />
Check out your local Hobby Stores for other non-fired stains etc.<br />
It looks like Esther uses a water base color tint to color the Flumo before she pours the mold.<br />
That's brilliant! And you can still blush and paint the doll before you assemble it.<br />
Here is the link to her tutorial.
http://www.magicminiatures.com/TutorialFlumo.htm<br />
You can actually use some of your own makeup to tint and make the faces come alive.<br />
This gives a very soft look which is always flattering for miniature dolls.<br />
Blush the cheeks with your own blush and then lightly spray the area with Matt Spray<br />
Do the same for the knees and elbows and inbetween fingers, toes, nails etc.<br />
For the eyes....Use acrylics and paint the entire eye white.<br />
Make sure it is very smooth and let it dry completely.<br />
Then paint the iris blue or brown...let it dry.<br />
Use a fine 20/0 liner and outline the eye...let dry.<br />
Use a 12/0 spotter and apply the iris color.<br />
Apply a dot of black for the pupil (I use the 10/0 sable spotter for that)<br />
Then....after all the colors are really, really dry take a fine straight pin and dip it into clear nail polish.<br />
Touch the pin in the center of the eye and it will seal the paint in it and make the eye look very real.<br />
If you mess up just remove the eye with nail polish remover and start all over again.<br />
You can use any type of paint on Flumo or Liquache as long as it does not have to be fired in a kiln.<br />
There is a book on my website called "The Little <strong>Doll</strong> Artist" by Beverly Parker.<br />
I had been making large dolls for many years and bought 2 of Parker-Levi's baby molds.<br />
So I didn't think I needed the book...boy! was I wrong! I ruined both molds.<br />
The book answered many questions and helped me make the transition from 36" tall dolls to 5 1/2"<br />
dollhouse dolls.<br />
Tracey, I hope my posting answers some of your questions about painting the dolls.<br />
I hope that others will share their painting techniques with you.<br />
Sincerely...Jackie Caron<br />
www.houseofcaron.com<br />
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Here are some YouTube videos regarding the use of Flumo and Li-qua-che<br />
Flumo:<br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbsGuR2xUgc<br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1wUH6vOrYQ<br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h3TBdV7E1A<br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-oUpbFBWSk<br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6VY99H2mxA<br />
Li-qua-che:<br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GSCgYbcr28<br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEH3JsUQEIc<br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxXRUDfX5tE
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