dynamic gas test and afects - Roehrig Engineering
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ROEHRIG ENGINEERING TECHNICAL UNDERSTANDING SERIES<br />
THE ROEHRIG GAS TEST<br />
THE DYNAMIC GAS TEST AND EFFECTS OF GAS PRESSURE<br />
Test: Used the same shock <strong>and</strong> ran it on 2” stroke, 100 F warm up at 10 in/sec using a <strong>Roehrig</strong><br />
<strong>Engineering</strong> 5VS crank type dynamometer. We collected data at three different pressures<br />
without changing anything else. For the <strong>test</strong>, we zeroed the load cell with the shock hanging<br />
from the upper crossbar, pre-loaded it 2” for the <strong>test</strong>. We ran a st<strong>and</strong>ard <strong>Roehrig</strong> <strong>Engineering</strong><br />
<strong>gas</strong> <strong>test</strong>, stopping at mid-stroke for 2 sec.<br />
One feature of <strong>Roehrig</strong> <strong>Engineering</strong>’s (REI) Shock software is the ability to measure the <strong>gas</strong><br />
force of the damper <strong>and</strong> remove its value from the data. REI does this by moving the crank to<br />
mid stroke <strong>and</strong> measuring the load cell force. We do this in both the compression <strong>and</strong> the<br />
rebound directions. We also allow the user to set how long the shock stops before measuring the<br />
load cell. This becomes very important when the shock has very little bleed.<br />
Why does <strong>Roehrig</strong> feel that this important? The main reason is that with a <strong>gas</strong> shock, there is an<br />
effect of the <strong>gas</strong> chamber on the damper. Statically, if you compress the shock by h<strong>and</strong> you are<br />
compressing the <strong>gas</strong> chamber. The pressure in the chamber pushes back against the shaft with<br />
some amount of force. The higher the <strong>gas</strong> pressure, the more force it produces on the shaft. The<br />
<strong>gas</strong> chamber acts like a spring, the more you compress it the more force it exerts on the shaft.<br />
If you put 50 psi into your shock <strong>and</strong> put it on the car, it would raise the car by a small amount<br />
because the <strong>gas</strong> force is trying to push the shaft out. If you added more pressure, say 200 psi, it<br />
would raise the car even more. Now, I am not suggesting it will raise it 1 inch, but it will raise it.<br />
What do you do then? You take rounds out of the car to get the ride heights you want.<br />
Basically, when you scale the car you take into account the effects of the <strong>gas</strong> pressure from the<br />
shock. If you add <strong>gas</strong> pressure, you re-adjust your spring heights <strong>and</strong> away you go. This is also<br />
the reason that some people use the <strong>gas</strong> pressure of the shock to act like a spring in the car, thus<br />
allowing them to run less spring in the front of the car. It is for this reason that <strong>Roehrig</strong> decided<br />
to measure the <strong>gas</strong> force <strong>and</strong> then remove it from the data. Like you do on the car, we remove the<br />
static effects of the <strong>gas</strong> chamber on the data. We only want you to look at the <strong>dynamic</strong> effects of<br />
the shock.<br />
Removing the static <strong>gas</strong> force at mid stroke allows the user of a <strong>Roehrig</strong> dynamometer to be able<br />
to compare shocks with different <strong>gas</strong> pressures <strong>and</strong> not have to worry about the static force from<br />
the <strong>gas</strong> chamber. There are some <strong>dynamic</strong> effects from the <strong>gas</strong> chamber that will show up in the<br />
data.<br />
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ROEHRIG ENGINEERING TECHNICAL UNDERSTANDING SERIES<br />
THE ROEHRIG GAS TEST<br />
Figure #1 shows the same shock with three different <strong>gas</strong> pressures (100, 175 <strong>and</strong> 250 psi). Each<br />
time we added <strong>gas</strong> force the graph moved up the force axis by an amount equal to the extra force<br />
on the shaft. If you did not know what changed, you might say that we added compression <strong>and</strong><br />
took away rebound. It could lead you down the wrong path. As you add more <strong>gas</strong> pressure, i.e.<br />
spring rate, you add a static force that continues to raise the overall force of the graph. You have<br />
added a force offset based on how much <strong>gas</strong> pressure is in the chamber. But, has the graph shape<br />
actually changed or does it only seem like it?<br />
Figure #1: Gas Force Kept in the Data<br />
RED TRACE: 250 PSI, BLUE TRACE: 175 PSI, GREEN TRACE: 100 PSI<br />
What happens when we remove the static <strong>gas</strong> force from each <strong>test</strong>, so that we only compare the<br />
internals of the shock <strong>and</strong> the <strong>dynamic</strong> effects of the <strong>gas</strong> chamber?<br />
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THE ROEHRIG GAS TEST<br />
The graph below shows how when you remove the static <strong>gas</strong> force, as measured by <strong>Roehrig</strong>’s<br />
<strong>gas</strong> <strong>test</strong>, the graphs line up just like you would expect. Since we did not change the internals of<br />
the shock, it makes no sense that the curves would change. Just like if you added 200 psi to the<br />
front shocks on your car, the front end would raise a small amount due to the added spring rate<br />
from the shocks. You would then, I hope, re-adjust your spring perches to get your ride height<br />
back to where you wanted it.<br />
Figure #2: Gas Force Removed<br />
RED TRACE: 250 PSI, BLUE TRACE: 175 PSI, GREEN TRACE: 100 PSI<br />
We have removed the static <strong>gas</strong> force from the shock. Are there any <strong>dynamic</strong> affects of the<br />
increased pressure?<br />
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THE ROEHRIG GAS TEST<br />
Notice how the <strong>test</strong> with 250 psi in the chamber (red trace) looks just a little stronger on<br />
compression closed side of the cycle. Figure #3 shows a close up version of the three runs. The<br />
run with the most <strong>gas</strong> pressure (red) shows extra compression force on the closing side. This is<br />
due to the effect of the <strong>dynamic</strong> addition the <strong>gas</strong> force makes. In the compression closing stage,<br />
the shock is still compressing <strong>and</strong> it is slowing down. Since it is still compressing, the <strong>gas</strong><br />
chamber is adding its spring rate to the force curve. Basically, the higher the pressure, the larger<br />
the spring rate <strong>and</strong> the larger the force offset to the curve.<br />
Figure #3: Gas Force Removed Close up View<br />
RED TRACE: 250 PSI, BLUE TRACE: 175 PSI, GREEN TRACE: 100 PSI<br />
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THE ROEHRIG GAS TEST<br />
For those of you wondering why we do it at mid stroke <strong>and</strong> not some where else, you ask a good<br />
question. The further you compress the shock, the more you compress the <strong>gas</strong> chamber <strong>and</strong> the<br />
bigger the pressure build up in the shock. Doing it at mid stroke is just a good average. Future<br />
versions of software may allow the user to do a <strong>gas</strong> <strong>test</strong> at several different stages of the stroke<br />
<strong>and</strong> compensate at each stage by removing the force. This is for the future.<br />
If you realize that depending on how your shocks are mounted on the car, the shock may be<br />
compressed more on one corner than the next corner. You also see how the <strong>gas</strong> chamber can<br />
affect the car’s behavior over time. If your right front shock was more compressed than the left<br />
front, they would each have a different static <strong>gas</strong> force, provided you put the same pressure in<br />
them to start.<br />
Another thought would be, as the temperature of the shock increases, the temperature of the <strong>gas</strong><br />
chamber increases <strong>and</strong> as a result the pressure goes up <strong>and</strong> the force exerted on the shock shaft<br />
increases. This means that during your 20 or 30 lap run on the track, the pressure in the shock is<br />
increasing because the temperature of the <strong>gas</strong> chamber is getting hotter <strong>and</strong> the increased spring<br />
rate may be affecting your car’s h<strong>and</strong>ling. Think what would happen if 20 laps into your run,<br />
you added 25 lb/in of spring rate to the front shocks, what would it do to your h<strong>and</strong>ling?<br />
We will be producing several more papers discussing temperature, adjustment <strong>and</strong> cavitation in<br />
shock absorbers. Stay tuned <strong>and</strong> keep watching the Technical info section of the website:<br />
www.roehrigengineering.com for future papers to help <strong>and</strong> maybe confuse you more. Any<br />
suggestions for technical info can be submitted to Michael@roehrigengineering.com.<br />
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