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BY EILEEN SHAPIRO<br />

CELEBRITY CORRESPONDENT<br />

DIANE WARREN<br />

PRESENTS HER ANTHEMIC NEW SONG “BIG BIG LOVE”<br />

TO THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY AS A CELEBRATION OF PRIDE<br />

“Love has no gender- Compassion has<br />

no religion- Character has no race”…<br />

Abhijit Naskar<br />

Songwriting sovereign Diane Warren<br />

celebrates love in a big, big way with<br />

her LGBTQ anthem “Big Big Love”<br />

recorded by superstar Belinda Carlisle,<br />

lead singer of the iconic girl group the<br />

<br />

EP collaboration, “Kismet.”<br />

Love is in our blood and in our bones.<br />

The question is not always who we<br />

love, but why we love….not where we<br />

go, but when and how we stay tethered<br />

when our roots are scattered on the<br />

breeze. Without love, what would be<br />

our purpose? Only the heart knows<br />

the answers….Diane is offering an<br />

avalanche of love because love grows<br />

when nothing else is certain, changing<br />

<br />

“Kismet” was born by chance. The<br />

<br />

and Belinda, who had joined forces<br />

back in 1978. The two Holy Grail’s of<br />

music collided in a coffee shop through<br />

fate and Belinda’s son, and out of that<br />

destiny, both wild hearts created liquid<br />

mathematics and perfumed smoke…<br />

and a gay anthem besides.<br />

“Love takes off the masks we fear …we<br />

cannot live without and know we cannot<br />

live within”….James Baldwin<br />

For years, Diane Warren has dazzled<br />

the planet like a seductive alchemist<br />

transforming private anguish<br />

into a narrative of truth within a<br />

kaleidoscope of songs for legends<br />

including Beyoncé, Lady Gaga, Elton<br />

John, Whitney Houston, Aerosmith,<br />

Roberta Flack, Aretha Franklin, Barbra<br />

Streisand, Tina Turner, Céline Dion,<br />

Elton John, Toni Braxton, Brandy, and<br />

a marathon of others. Her songs have<br />

been used in over 150 motion pictures,<br />

including “Gonna Be You”, which was<br />

performed by Dolly Parton, Belinda<br />

Carlisle, Cyndi Lauper, Gloria Estefan,<br />

<br />

“80 For Brady”, and most recently, “The<br />

<br />

Hot”, which was released June 9.<br />

The multi award winning Diane has<br />

penned nine #1 hits and 32 top 10 hits<br />

on Billboard’s Hot 100 and she is tied<br />

for having written the most #1 songs as<br />

a sole writer in Billboard history. She<br />

was inducted into the Songwriters Hall<br />

of Fame, has been nominated for 14<br />

Academy Awards, is a Grammy winner<br />

with 15 nominations, an Emmy winner,<br />

and a two time Golden Globe award<br />

winner. She also received an honorary<br />

Oscar and is a recipient of a star on the<br />

Hollywood Walk of Fame.<br />

I was fortunate to be able to have<br />

a vibrant conversation with Diane<br />

regarding “Kismet” and “Big, Big Love”<br />

and whatever else just happened to<br />

come up.


INTERVIEW >><br />

You already know I’ve<br />

interviewed Belinda.<br />

According to her, she had<br />

no intention of even doing<br />

another album until she<br />

heard your songs. Did you<br />

write them for her? Did you<br />

have her in mind?<br />

It is weird how things work. I<br />

had just written “Big Big Love”<br />

two weeks before I ran into her<br />

son. First of all, I didn’t even<br />

know she had a son. As soon<br />

as he said that, I said “OK, get<br />

your mom on the phone.” And<br />

I said, “Belinda, bitch, you’re<br />

coming in the studio.” She<br />

came in and I think she was<br />

thinking, “I hope this doesn’t<br />

suck”. I don’t necessarily write<br />

with someone in mind, I just try<br />

to write a great song. But there<br />

was nobody that was better for<br />

that song than Belinda. It’s the<br />

best of girl pop and Belinda is<br />

the voice of that. And by the<br />

way, the song “Big Big Love”, I<br />

want that to be a gay anthem.<br />

<strong>Get</strong> the word out. I am giving<br />

that to Pride for LGBTQ+<br />

communities. It’s big big love<strong>–</strong><br />

it’s all encompassing love. It’s<br />

loving who you want to love<br />

and loving who you are.<br />

When you wrote that song,<br />

<br />

the words?<br />

I was playing. I programmed<br />

in a drum and I just started<br />

singing “Looking for a big big<br />

love that takes up all the space<br />

in my heart.” And I thought,<br />

“That is really cool.” It just<br />

sounded like a hit to me and<br />

I just kept working on it. The<br />

<br />

Nothing is weak and to me she<br />

sounds better than she did 30<br />

years ago. She has so much<br />

energy in her voice. She is still<br />

a star. She is a great performer,<br />

and if you see her live, she is<br />

still kicking ass.<br />

Are you ever sorry that<br />

you gave an artist one of<br />

your songs and wish you<br />

recorded it instead?<br />

I have never felt that way in<br />

my life. I am not a performer. I<br />

would rather give them to other<br />

people. I’d rather give them to<br />

someone better than me and I<br />

like my job. I like to write songs.<br />

The EP Kismet, I know the<br />

story and I know why it’s<br />

named Kismet, but who<br />

thought of the name?<br />

Oh, that was Belinda. It was<br />

perfect because this whole<br />

thing was kismet. Because her<br />

son never goes to that coffee<br />

shop. And it was the one day<br />

he went there. What if he went<br />

there an hour later or I went<br />

there an hour earlier? It was<br />

kismet. It was meant to be.<br />

The song “Sanity”, there has<br />

to be a story behind it.<br />

It was just a fun song. It has a<br />

‘60s thing to me. Like it could<br />

have been a Petula Clark<br />

song or something. But yet, it’s<br />

modern. It has that ‘60s thing<br />

that I’ve always loved.<br />

Speaking of movies, I want to<br />

talk about “The Fire Inside”.<br />

That’s from the movie Flamin’<br />

Hot. It is a fun song. I love the<br />

song. Working on that was<br />

awesome. And different too,<br />

you know.<br />

When you do a song for a<br />

movie, does somebody say<br />

“I have this movie. Can you<br />

write a song for it?” or do<br />

you say “I have a song for<br />

your movie”?<br />

Both. I get called to do songs<br />

for movies, but if it’s something<br />

I read about that becomes<br />

something I chase. If it is<br />

something I feel like I can do<br />

something for, you know, it<br />

goes both ways. People call me<br />

and I call them. I am not above<br />

calling and saying “Hey, I’d love<br />

to see that script.”


PHOTO CREDIT: NICK SPANOS<br />

How did you feel getting<br />

an honorary Oscar? They<br />

don’t even give them to<br />

songwriters, do they?<br />

They’ve never given it to<br />

a songwriter before. And it<br />

probably will be a very long<br />

time before they do that again.<br />

It was great. I have been<br />

nominated 14 times. I have<br />

lost 14 times, but I really won<br />

14 times. I’ve done a lot of<br />

movie stuff. One I can’t really<br />

talk about yet, but I’m really<br />

excited. I did “Fire Inside” and I<br />

did “80 For Brady”for<br />

the movie, the song<br />

“Gonna Be You”<br />

with Belinda Carlisle,<br />

Dolly Parton, Cyndi<br />

Lauper, Gloria<br />

Estefan, & Debbie<br />

Harry, how is that for<br />

divas, it’s streaming<br />

now.<br />

Is there a time that<br />

you can recall that<br />

changed the whole<br />

trajectory of your<br />

life?<br />

Yeah. I guess<br />

getting signed to<br />

<br />

though it was a shitty deal,<br />

but it led to “Rhythm of the<br />

<br />

hit. That changed my life. And<br />

the honorary Oscar was pretty<br />

cool. Cher gave it to me.


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BY MICHAEL COOK<br />

ROSS MATTHEWS<br />

AS HE HITS THE ROAD THIS SUMMER,<br />

ROSS MATTHEWS HAS A MESSAGE FOR US ALL:<br />

I GOTCHU, GIRL!<br />

Whether he’s sitting alongside RuPaul on the judges panel on<br />

RuPaul’s Drag Race or revolutionizing daytime talk with Drew<br />

<br />

road for his one man tour with his aptly titled show “I Gotchu, Girl”!,<br />

Matthews thriving both personally (he is married to Dr. Wellinthon<br />

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most culturally important television shows today. I sat down with<br />

Ross to chat about his brand new tour, the powerful women that<br />

helped frame the person he is, and how at all times, he remains<br />

leading with gratitude.


INTERVIEW<br />

Michael Cook: There is a<br />

very simple trait of yours that<br />

both myself and so many<br />

other people that are such a<br />

massive fan of yours notice<br />

about you and every project<br />

you dive into, including your<br />

tour “I Gotchu Girl!”. Simply,<br />

you’re still a fan at heart as<br />

well and are so inherently<br />

thankful for the opportunities<br />

that have come your way.<br />

Ross Matthews: Oh a super<br />

fan. And such gratitude.<br />

Because you have to<br />

remember, when I started<br />

on television back in 2001,<br />

there were not people like<br />

me on television, especially<br />

unapologetic people who<br />

refused to be the butt of the<br />

joke because there was no<br />

other choice. I am so grateful<br />

that my gratitude comes across<br />

on the screen because it is<br />

absolutely one hundred percent<br />

real.<br />

MC: How do you stay so<br />

grounded? So many people<br />

reach levels of success and<br />

the fame turns them into a<br />

completely different person.<br />

RM: It’s not in my my nature.<br />

I was raised by my mom and<br />

my dad who are just good<br />

kind people. I grew up in a<br />

small town and I also think that<br />

most artists have almost an<br />

insecurity where they feel that<br />

it could all go away. I think you<br />

mix small town, good values,<br />

and insecurity together and it<br />

makes this perfect gratitude<br />

pie; that is sort of what I have<br />

going on. There are days when<br />

I am tired and where I do too<br />

much, but I just every day, go<br />

to gratitude.<br />

MC: You are coming to<br />

NJPAC on June 25th with<br />

your stand up show I<br />

Gotchu, Girl! How do you<br />

narrow down the stories you<br />

are going to tell from such a<br />

storied career?<br />

RM: That’s a great question. I<br />

have gone on tour with both of<br />

my past books and they were<br />

their own thing. This tour is<br />

<br />

It is about getting back together<br />

with everybody, knowing what<br />

I know and what we all know<br />

after those rough few years<br />

of solitude and missing each<br />

other. There is a lot of my<br />

gratitude about being out of<br />

the house infused in the show.<br />

Also, what I really found out<br />

during that time is how much<br />

we need our friends and our<br />

family and my husband so<br />

there is a lot about that. Really,<br />

it’s about life through my POV,<br />

my lens, life through Ross<br />

colored glasses; it’s what I<br />

wanted to say. Mostly though,<br />

its about making people laugh.<br />

I’m telling you, it is feeding my<br />

soul going across the country. It<br />

sounds so cheese-fest I know,<br />

but when I go in these rooms<br />

and I can shift the energy of<br />

the people in there…bring<br />

them this way, bring them that<br />

way, make them think that I am<br />

<br />

script and bring them that way,<br />

it is so fun. I see the surprise<br />

on people’s faces, I see the<br />

joy and I hope that they see<br />

the joy in mine. Every show is<br />

different, I sort of follow where<br />

the audience wants to go. It<br />

has been a real joy and a real<br />

<br />

muscle live.<br />

MC: Recently, I said to<br />

someone that every single<br />

person in my life that I have<br />

a deep personal relationship<br />

with is different postpandemic.<br />

Do you think the<br />

same?<br />

RM: I think that we all are;<br />

every relationship that we<br />

have is. Just like anyone who<br />

has been through anything<br />

traumatic, and I think that we<br />

all sort of have, I certainly<br />

have, if you pay attention<br />

during trauma you can learn<br />

invaluable, beautiful things.<br />

MC: What do you think you<br />

<br />

those years we were all<br />

separated?<br />

RM: Oh I don’t take anything<br />

for granted anymore. I took<br />

hanging out with a friend for<br />

granted for years in my life,<br />

I think that we all did right?<br />

After the year 2020, everything<br />

changed. I remember thinking<br />

“I should go visit my Mom<br />

more”.


But I’m busy, I’m working hard,<br />

“I’ll see her later, I’ll take her<br />

on a great vacation”; and then<br />

she died. I wish I could redo<br />

that. What about “Oh I’m going<br />

to have a barbecue and invite<br />

everyone over to the house”.<br />

We couldn’t do that anymore.<br />

What I learned is how<br />

important it is to carve that stuff<br />

out and to tell the people that<br />

you love that you love them<br />

and to spend time as much as<br />

you can with them. And to not<br />

think that that’s just a given.<br />

MC: I think that it is so<br />

important to see someone<br />

like you represented<br />

and sitting on the panel<br />

of RuPaul’s Drag Race.<br />

You seem to truly see the<br />

contestants’ heart and<br />

<br />

year after year seems like a<br />

complete joy. What does it<br />

feel like for you to be able to<br />

be a part of this show and<br />

family?<br />

RM: I still don’t know how it<br />

happened! I am not a drag<br />

queen, but I am a super fan<br />

of what they do and I always<br />

have been. I am the person in<br />

<br />

one there with all my singles<br />

ready to hand them out on<br />

stage, screaming when they<br />

come out, following them on<br />

Instagram. When they asked<br />

me to judge, I thought that<br />

I could represent the fans. I<br />

could be the one that won the<br />

golden ticket and gets to sit<br />

there.<br />

I hope you notice when I judge,<br />

it’s never me telling them<br />

how to do it. It’s me giving my<br />

opinion of how I think I can<br />

nudge them towards their<br />

greatness, their potential, what<br />

I see their superpower being<br />

and how they can get there<br />

<br />

and in the best way possible.<br />

Ru can give them advice on<br />

how to be a drag queen and<br />

does, and no one knows better<br />

than her, and Michelle too,<br />

and Carson can give advice<br />

on fashion. I really try to bring<br />

the super fan POV. All I can<br />

do is give you my thoughts on<br />

how to be the best version of<br />

yourself.<br />

MC: There is absolutely<br />

nothing like working with<br />

drag performers and helping<br />

them see their fullest<br />

and greatest potential,<br />

and seeing the best in<br />

themselves, don’t you think?<br />

RM: Completely, that is<br />

<br />

fandom or the viewers giving<br />

me a lot of crap because I don’t<br />

pretend to be what I’m not.<br />

It’s always how I’ve earned<br />

my spot at that table, that is<br />

exactly what I bring. I’ll tell you<br />

this through, being a judge at<br />

that table is a legacy job. It’s<br />

the kind of thing that I know<br />

will be in my obituary. This<br />

show has shifted the culture in<br />

extraordinary ways and I am so<br />

proud to be included.<br />

Let me tell you something,<br />

not an episode, not a moment<br />

goes by that I take that for<br />

granted. You know, getting to<br />

make RuPaul laugh it is one<br />

of the best sounds I’ve ever<br />

heard. I love the sound of my<br />

chihuahua eating her food in<br />

the corner means she is safe<br />

and she’s eating, I love certain<br />

songs, I love the sound of Judy<br />

Garland’s voice, and I love the<br />

sound of RuPaul’s laugh.<br />

MC: So much of your own<br />

career is marked with<br />

powerful women, everyone<br />

from Chelsea Handler<br />

to Joan Rivers to Drew<br />

Barrymore. Have you aways<br />

found yourself gravitating<br />

towards powerful and strong<br />

women?<br />

RM: Yes, strong women and<br />

kind women. I don’t think<br />

tough and kind are opposites,<br />

because I think sometimes<br />

being tough on someone is the<br />

kindest thing that you can do.<br />

I was lucky to be raised by an<br />

extraordinary mom who had<br />

strong female friends.


I am lucky to have my longest<br />

lasting friendships to be with<br />

strong opinionated women and<br />

it is a lot of what informs this<br />

tour, I Gotchu, Girl! where I talk<br />

a lot about having each others<br />

backs. I have learned that<br />

my relationships with women<br />

shaped me more than any of<br />

the relationships that I’ve had,<br />

until I had met my husband,<br />

shaped me into the man that<br />

I am. And I am so grateful for<br />

it-and I am grateful for them.<br />

MC: Speaking of kind and<br />

powerful women, you and<br />

Drew Barrymore have<br />

put a seventies style spin<br />

on daytime talk and its<br />

wonderfully revolutionary.<br />

<br />

own special ingredient into<br />

the recipe of daytime talk<br />

and the result is something<br />

beautiful.<br />

RM: Thank you so much, that<br />

means a lot because it was<br />

<br />

elements of Regis and Kathie<br />

Lee with a whole different<br />

<br />

heartfelt and takeaway, and<br />

that was all purposeful. It was<br />

like when you eat something<br />

and you know its a little bit of<br />

that and a little bit of that but<br />

“whoa what is this, I’ve never<br />

had it like this before”!?<br />

<br />

know how to digest it, but<br />

luckily we got time because<br />

of Drew and who she is, the<br />

network gave us a little time<br />

<br />

<br />

And now, it is amazing to<br />

say this, we are the fastest<br />

growing show in daytime!<br />

What Drew has created and<br />

brought me on board with, it<br />

<br />

thing about Drew is all that she<br />

wants from me is to be me and<br />

to love her and let her love me.<br />

It is the healthiest and most<br />

<br />

of friendship in adulthood.<br />

Did you feel that way at some<br />

point, like I have enough<br />

friends; I’m not meeting new<br />

people. When I met Drew in<br />

2020, it felt like I was meeting<br />

a sibling, that’s what it felt like.<br />

Right away, the trust level<br />

that I felt…here she is, one of<br />

the most iconic people in the<br />

world, but I never thought of<br />

her like that once I met her.<br />

And I just felt like could speak<br />

the truth to her. Even with our<br />

relationship out there we so<br />

support each other, but if she<br />

says something that I disagree<br />

with, I’ll roll my eyes and be<br />

like “girl come on”. The fact<br />

that I can do that to someone<br />

of her stature and notoriety<br />

says so much about her<br />

behind the scenes.<br />

MC: Meeting friends like you<br />

have met Drew and I have<br />

met friends of my own in<br />

adulthood are almost like<br />

when you say you’re “done”<br />

dating; that is when you end<br />

up meeting someone who is<br />

truly a game changer.<br />

RM: I think you’re right. I<br />

believe my mother made this<br />

all happen, she passed away<br />

in 2020. 2020 is when I came<br />

to New York, got engaged,<br />

and met Drew Barrymore. It’s<br />

almost like when she passed<br />

away, she was like, “Let me<br />

carve out some paths for you,<br />

you have some weeds in the<br />

way”.


She did this. Drew always<br />

says, when I talk about my<br />

mom she comes and hugs me<br />

because she says “I feel your<br />

mom here”. My mom had only<br />

been to New York one time, its<br />

not like she was based in New<br />

York where we do the show,<br />

but my mom is there.<br />

MC: Where do you feel your<br />

mom the most in your career<br />

right now?<br />

RM: I feel her in the certainty<br />

that feel in my career right now.<br />

There were so many years<br />

where I felt scared that it would<br />

go away, scared that people<br />

weren’t taking me seriously,<br />

or scared that I would have<br />

to just go into real estate and<br />

give it up. Now there is such<br />

a certainty that I deserve it,<br />

that I deserve where I am, that<br />

it’s because of the work that<br />

I have something to say and<br />

what I have to say is worthy. I<br />

think that is my mother in me.<br />

When she left her body, I think<br />

part of her came into me. I’m<br />

made from her, so I don’t think<br />

its insane to think that some of<br />

her spirit would come into me<br />

as well.<br />

MC: How do you combat<br />

your inner saboteur<br />

and those feelings of<br />

unworthiness and those<br />

feelings of everything going<br />

away and stay so positive?<br />

RM: I just made peace with<br />

it going away. That was part<br />

of what happened when I<br />

got married. I didn’t expect it,<br />

but what I felt was that if it all<br />

goes away, if I tried something<br />

and I failed miserably, if I<br />

embarrassed myself, if I<br />

failed-that I still would be okay.<br />

My husband…he got me girl.<br />

He’s got my back. There was<br />

this freedom that happened,<br />

not long after my mom passed<br />

where it was this perfect storm<br />

now where I feel completely<br />

safe to try, completely safe to<br />

fail, and completely safe to<br />

succeed.<br />

MC: For myself, there is no<br />

me or what I have gotten<br />

to accomplish without my<br />

partner in my corner. Do you<br />

feel the same way?<br />

RM: What’s interesting is that<br />

my husband and I met each<br />

other when we were forty.<br />

I brought with me my level<br />

of success and he is very<br />

successful in his own right he<br />

is a Doctorate in Education.<br />

We came to the table as<br />

fully formed people, or so<br />

we thought. Because then<br />

when we met each other, it<br />

was almost like he lent me<br />

his power and I lent him mine<br />

and we became stronger<br />

individually, a superpower<br />

together.<br />

Could I exist without him?<br />

Maybe. I did exist before I knew<br />

him. But existing together, side<br />

by side and combined together,<br />

is like a power I have never felt<br />

before. It is a strength I have<br />

never known. What I know and<br />

how I feel and what I know to<br />

<br />

because of him.<br />

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BY EILEEN SHAPIRO<br />

CELEBRITY CORRESPONDENT<br />

PUBLISHER MIKE TODD CELEBRATES<br />

14 YEARS OF<br />

When <strong>Get</strong> <strong>Out</strong> <strong>Magazine</strong>’s publisher Mike Todd arrived in New<br />

York City, he knew zero about the publishing, magazine and<br />

entertainment industries, but he had a vision. Fourteen years later,<br />

when all others failed, he owns, operates and publishes what<br />

was dubbed the seventh best LGBTQ+ <strong>Magazine</strong> on the planet,<br />

both in print and online.<br />

<br />

Diana Ross, Melissa Etheridge, Toni Braxton, Dionne Warwick,<br />

Boy George, Annie Lennox, Emma Stone, Sandra Bernhard,<br />

Taylor Dayne, LeAnn Rimes, Belinda Carlisle, Cyndi Lauper,<br />

<br />

<br />

<br />

and their straight allies. The magazine has survived everything<br />

against all odds, including Covid.<br />

<br />

stories for bars and has became the go-to guide for New York<br />

<br />

bartenders, DJ’s & queens in New York City and surrounding<br />

<br />

<br />

Prides to come.


PHOTO CREDIT: BILLY HESS<br />

INTERVIEW<br />

After 14 years of <strong>Get</strong><br />

<strong>Out</strong> <strong>Magazine</strong> (which is<br />

still going strong), while<br />

<br />

inspired you to create the<br />

magazine?<br />

I used to go to this one<br />

bartender and pick up<br />

the other two NYC gay<br />

magazines, and I’d always<br />

mention to him , “Why don’t<br />

they lay out the magazine<br />

this way?” “Why are the ads<br />

this way?” I was basically<br />

just talking out loud. Then,<br />

around April 2009, he leans<br />

over the bar and says “You<br />

say this week after week.<br />

Why don’t you do your own?<br />

Then it will be the way you<br />

want it.” I never thought<br />

about that. “I just might<br />

do that”, I replied. Then<br />

Queen’s Pride came and I<br />

<br />

great friends, and the rest<br />

was history.<br />

<br />

was eight pages, lol, I took<br />

that to the streets and<br />

promoted it. I had to learn<br />

everything after I started it.<br />

I told myself, “Well, it can’t<br />

get any smaller ‘cause eight<br />

pages is the minimum to<br />

print on a huge printing<br />

press.”<br />

I then met Splash Bar owner<br />

Brian and Eddie of currently<br />

Friends Tavern & Viva La<br />

Vida, who has owned bars<br />

on Roosevelt Avenue for<br />

all the 14 years. They both<br />

bought ads and allowed<br />

me space in their venues to<br />

share the magazines with<br />

their patrons. Thank god<br />

for those two; otherwise, it<br />

would have ended shortly<br />

after. I still today think of<br />

those two generous guys<br />

every time I put the new<br />

issue out. I remember Brian<br />

<br />

couple pages, “You seem<br />

determined, and I like that.<br />

Send me an invoice.” I was<br />

thinking this guy just gave<br />

me prime exposure in his<br />

huge, successful, packed<br />

Manhattan bar, I have to<br />

make him proud and make<br />

him know he made a good<br />

decision. I am very thankful.<br />

Even the biggest LGBTQ<br />

and commercialized<br />

publications went out of<br />

business, so what do you<br />

attribute your success to<br />

and how did you survive<br />

Covid?<br />

Well, Covid made me<br />

rethink the way we put out<br />

the issue. Luckily, we found<br />

takeout food and alcohol<br />

spots, and the Grand<br />

Central green boxes was a<br />

huge pick up destination.<br />

The biggest attribute of<br />

all was learning that the<br />

future is here<strong>–</strong>and having<br />

a team of staff to split up<br />

all the workload was not as<br />

easy as it once used to be.<br />

Lucky for <strong>Get</strong> <strong>Out</strong>, it was<br />

created with my hard work<br />

and dedication in mind, and<br />

that meant even delivering<br />

as well to keep costs down<br />

and keep advertising rates<br />

where advertisers could<br />

easily afford promoting their<br />

venues, artists, shows,<br />

movies, and merchandise.<br />

That’s why we are still<br />

here, even with paper and<br />

postage that has doubled<br />

in price since we started<br />

14 years ago. We still have<br />

75% of all original clients<br />

in each issue. They are the<br />

reason we are still here,<br />

being able to help others<br />

promote.


Thinking back, do you<br />

recall your favorite cover?<br />

I can’t really name the<br />

most special one. They<br />

are all special and the<br />

result of everyone’s hard<br />

work. With gratitude and<br />

appreciation and help from<br />

so many people to make<br />

them happen behind the<br />

scenes to their management<br />

<br />

the artist themselves, the<br />

writers, interviewer(s) editor,<br />

designer. I have to say singer<br />

Amber, and then Deborah<br />

Cox opened the celebrity<br />

doors for <strong>Get</strong> <strong>Out</strong>! <strong>Magazine</strong>.<br />

I have been lucky to have<br />

featured so many. I’ve almost<br />

had every artist I grew up<br />

listening to on the radio.<br />

You’ve had Diana Ross,<br />

Dionne Warwick, Boy<br />

George, Annie Lennox,<br />

Melissa Etheridge, Taylor,<br />

Dayne, Belinda Carlisle,<br />

DJ Tony Moran, Sandra<br />

Bernhard, Bianca Del Rio,<br />

RuPaul, several RuPaul’s<br />

Drag Race alumni, Paula<br />

Abdul, Bob the Drag<br />

Queen, Madonna, Frankie<br />

Grande, just to mention<br />

a few, and that’s not<br />

counting some of the<br />

hottest dancers on the<br />

planet who’ve been on the<br />

cover of <strong>Get</strong> <strong>Out</strong> <strong>Magazine</strong>.<br />

Is there anyone that you<br />

still wish to have on the<br />

cover?<br />

Well, as I was literally<br />

answering this question,<br />

I was going to say Diane<br />

Warren, Janet Jackson and<br />

Ricky Martin, but those two<br />

latter artists just haven’t<br />

crossed paths as yet to be<br />

done. At this very moment,<br />

I just received a reply from<br />

Diane Warren and I have to<br />

say I am honored more than<br />

my words can explain if this<br />

happens. Her writings are<br />

all over my music shelves. I<br />

am old school and purchase<br />

all my music in CD’s, and<br />

my house is full of music<br />

from Diane and all the above<br />

singers.<br />

What’s your biggest<br />

challenge and your biggest<br />

triumph regarding the<br />

magazine?<br />

A challenge is honestly trying<br />

to keep the advertising rates<br />

and expenses low, and with<br />

the increased cost of living,<br />

gas, paper printing, and<br />

mailings doubling. That is a<br />

huge challenge. The other<br />

challenge is trying to offer<br />

the deal of the decade to<br />

advertisers to promote their<br />

namesakes and trying to<br />

understand those that don’t<br />

take advantage of it. I have<br />

sat in empty places where<br />

I could help them and they<br />

don’t even think to take their<br />

lunch or dinner monies and<br />

invest in their business in<br />

advertising.<br />

I myself am always putting<br />

my money back into the<br />

business, and with that said,<br />

those have always been<br />

the most wise decisions I’ve<br />

made. And the numbers<br />

are right there. <strong>Get</strong> <strong>Out</strong>!<br />

<strong>Magazine</strong> reaches far more<br />

people than any venue post<br />

you see on social media<br />

and we connect exactly to<br />

the reader that goes out and<br />

enjoys entertainment and<br />

nightlife.<br />

As far as triumphs, I have sat<br />

in the best seats all across<br />

the country watching my<br />

favorite artists perform on<br />

stage, and damn, the artists<br />

are a million times better on<br />

stage now then they were<br />

when I was younger. I have<br />

met the best people in the<br />

world doing this magazine.<br />

What is your vision for<br />

the future regarding the<br />

magazine?<br />

I really have no vision of<br />

the future. I honestly never<br />

have had one. I can only<br />

say that I can go searching<br />

and searching, I rarely don’t<br />

make any achievements<br />

from it, it just seems like I am<br />

supposed to do this. Even<br />

the many times I wanted to<br />

stop, something amazing<br />

happens the same week<br />

and I’m back full speed into<br />

it again. In all seriousness,<br />

it has to be said whether it<br />

be God or the universe or<br />

just helping people along the<br />

way, and maybe it’s all three<br />

combined, but everything<br />

just lands in my lap when it’s<br />

supposed to.<br />

Special thanks to you Eileen<br />

Shapiro (interviewer),<br />

Michael Musto (editor), &<br />

Jeff Eason (photographer),<br />

without the three of you,<br />

the following issue would<br />

not be possible. With <strong>516</strong><br />

issues and over 5000 people<br />

involved that I’m thankful for.<br />

I cannot ever write that many<br />

names to say “Thank you”<br />

here.<br />

But I will never forget a<br />

single person and I will still<br />

continue to promote anyone<br />

that I have interacted with till<br />

it ends.


BY EILEEN SHAPIRO<br />

CELEBRITY CORRESPONDENT<br />

Award winning singer, songwriter and<br />

producer, Jade Starling, lead singer for the<br />

dance sensation group Pretty Poison, will<br />

be riding in a semicircle arc of color as an<br />

honored guest on the KTU Pride Parade<br />

<br />

York City Pride.<br />

Known for her chart-topping hit “Catch<br />

Me I’m Falling” (among others), Starling<br />

has always been a gay rights activist and<br />

same-sex marriage supporter. Her 1997<br />

hit “Let Freedom Ring” has been used<br />

to further the concept of legalizing gay<br />

marriages. She often performs on behalf<br />

<br />

With the release of her new hit single<br />

“Crazy”, she continues to tour and<br />

celebrate her career.<br />

PRETTY POISON’S<br />

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INTERVIEW >>>>>>>>><br />

Congratulations on your new song. I<br />

understand you’re going to be on the KTU<br />

<br />

does that personally mean for you?<br />

Thanks so much, Eileen! We are completely<br />

blown away by the success on the new single,<br />

“Crazy”- on Tazmania Records. We have been<br />

getting played on KTU and many iheartradio<br />

stations across the country and Mixshows<br />

internationally. Our good friend Steve Bartel,<br />

who we love dearly, has been the music<br />

director at KTU for many years and a huge<br />

supporter of our music. We have been doing<br />

<br />

decade minus the Covid years. This will be<br />

<br />

in three years and we are very excited! This<br />

year, as with every year I’m involved with NYC<br />

Pride March, has deep emotional meaning to<br />

me. I’ve always been a ride-or-die advocate<br />

for the LGBTQ community, so this is my way<br />

of giving back and supporting the people who<br />

have always remained loyal to us. We actually<br />

got our start in gay clubs and they have always<br />

shown the love and support, even after all<br />

these years. It’s amazing! I’m so proud to be a<br />

part of this year’s festivities with KTU!


I’d like to send out a special shoutout to Glen<br />

Ellis from Mazda of Lodi for sponsoring the<br />

KTU Float this year. We love and appreciate<br />

you so much. The excitement from the crowd is<br />

so spiritually uplifting. There’s nothing like it on<br />

earth.<br />

What was the inspiration for your new<br />

record?<br />

The new single, “Crazy”, is actually a cover of<br />

the iconic mega hit by Seal. I usually don’t do<br />

covers, but my bandmate/musician /songwriting<br />

partner /producer Whey Cooler from Pretty<br />

Poison heard it on the radio one day and<br />

suggested I cover it. I always trust his intuition<br />

when it comes to song choices and he was<br />

certainly right about this one. “Crazy” has gone<br />

number one all over the world<strong>–</strong> North and South<br />

America, Asia, Africa, Europe, UK, Oceana<br />

countries. Now we are getting airplay on Top<br />

40 radio stations in the U.S. and currently Top<br />

<br />

music video “Crazy”-Jade Starling on YouTube<strong>–</strong><br />

is currently over 106K views. I’m feeling very<br />

blessed about the success of this record and I’m<br />

so grateful to the DJs and fans around the world<br />

for showing the love and support. Special thanks<br />

to my incredible promotion team for working so<br />

hard to make “Crazy “ so successful. Big Love<br />

to Henry Vargas, Dan Mathews, Sam Michaels-<br />

Klubjumpers, Mike Ferullo, Tazmania Records,<br />

Darulah Man/Whey Cooler, Patti Andrews, New<br />

Music Weekly, Music Week UK. Without this<br />

amazing dream team, none of this would have<br />

been possible. I love you all!<br />

I believe the last time I saw you was at the<br />

huge new casino in Queens, NY, where you<br />

did an amazing performance. What have you<br />

been up to since?<br />

Yes, that was Resorts World Casino in Queens<br />

and that was a great show. My group, Pretty<br />

Poison, has been on many tours and multi-act<br />

freestyle shows over the years and many clubs<br />

especially in the NYC area .We still do quite a<br />

few shows with Sal Abbatello, Brian Rosenberg,<br />

Vito Bruno, Paul Lopes, Entourage Productions,<br />

Alan Beck, Bobby Dee Presents, and Steve<br />

Robinson. Currently, we are doing Freestyle<br />

Explosion, Freestyle Madness, 80s in the Sands<br />

Festival in Cancun and Freestyle Festival<br />

tour dates all around the country. Heading to<br />

Yuma, AZ, Phoenix AZ, Las Vegas, Dallas<br />

TX, Denver Co., Boston Mass, Providence<br />

RI, LA , Miami and of course NYC, to name a<br />

few. We are beyond excited to perform for our<br />

fans in so many cities. Check out the website<br />

prettypoisonmusic.com for cities/dates info.<br />

Will you be performing during Pride on the<br />

<br />

Yes, I’m totally thrilled to be performing on<br />

<br />

performing a medley of my hits alongside some<br />

special guests TBA. We will also be performing<br />

<br />

41st and 9th Ave. Special Thanks to Mike Todd<br />

for introducing us to Daniel Nardicio, owner<br />

of Red Eye NYC and also Ice Palace on Fire<br />

Island. We are proud to be working with such an<br />

established and well respected promoter for this<br />

epic after party event. Will be updating the info<br />

and showtime very soon.<br />

What does the rest of 2023 and beyond look<br />

like for you ?<br />

The rest of 2023 is incredibly busy with tour<br />

dates, international travel and writing and<br />

recording sessions in our studio. We are<br />

<br />

album to be released by the end of the year or<br />

the beginning of 2024. I’m so excited for people<br />

to hear what we’ve been working on. I’m so<br />

proud of the songs that Whey Cooler and I have<br />

<br />

and House music, as well as some ballads and<br />

even trance mixes, with a twist and signature<br />

sound all our own. I think the DJs and fans<br />

will love it! We will be working with our team<br />

of remixers Stonebridge, Block and Crown,<br />

Country Club Martini Crew, Klubjumpers, Dark<br />

Intensity, Liam Keegan, Sam Gee and Chris Cox<br />

to name a few.These talented remixers never<br />

disappoint and always deliver amazing remixes.<br />

We will be releasing a new single sometime this<br />

summer. We are still deciding on what song we<br />

want to drop next, but it will be an original. My<br />

last original single, “So Alive”, also did extremely<br />

well on radio and Mixshows and had KTU<br />

support, as well as internationally. We just got<br />

awarded a plaque from New Music Weekly for<br />

“So Alive” having spent three weeks at #1 on<br />

the Indie Music Singles Chart. It’s especially<br />

rewarding because it’s an original song written<br />

by Whey Cooler and myself.


Do you have any concluding words?<br />

We had an amazing year with our classic<br />

smash hit single “Catch Me, I’m Falling” being<br />

featured in episode four of the Golden Globe<br />

<br />

Dahmer Story “ The series has over a billion<br />

views worldwide. It has also won Bafta Awards<br />

and is now nominated for four Emmys. We are<br />

honored to have our music included in this iconic<br />

Ryan Murphy production and I look forward to<br />

attending the Emmys in L.A. this September.<br />

There are also some upcoming movies using<br />

our music and a commercial is in the works. We<br />

have been extremely lucky with placements in<br />

some very Iconic TV shows and movies. One<br />

of my favorites is RuPaul impersonating me in<br />

<br />

a red wig and fringe gloves. He did a killer<br />

performance. Also we have been working with<br />

Trance DJ producer Markus Schultz on a track<br />

for his album titled “Stolen”, dropping in July. He<br />

is working on a remix of “Catch Me, I’m Falling”<br />

that’s going to blow minds for sure. We are very<br />

excited. In closing, I would like to thank you and<br />

Mike for featuring me in your Pride issue of <strong>Get</strong><br />

<strong>Out</strong> magazine. I always appreciate your support.<br />

Also I’d like to thank everyone who has stood<br />

by us over the years. Your continued love and<br />

support means everything!! I love you all so<br />

much. Happy Pride!! Follow me on all my socials<br />

<br />

Xoxo<br />

week in pictures >> By Joey Trom<br />

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BY GETOUT MAGAZINE<br />

SEBASTIAN<br />

BOXERS BARTENDER BURSTS INTO<br />

BUBBLEGUMWEAR INSPIRATION<br />

WHAT INSPIRED YOU TO START A<br />

SWIMWEAR COMPANY?<br />

<br />

<br />

I decided to make my own and create<br />

something that I would want to see out<br />

there in the stores.<br />

WHAT KINDS OF SWIMWEAR ARE YOU<br />

MANUFACTURING AND HOW CAN<br />

PEOPLE SEE YOUR PRODUCTS?<br />

We are manufacturing pieces that would<br />

make you feel sexy and comfortable, with<br />

the freedom to use the swimwear for any<br />

occasion<strong>–</strong>summer party, the beach, or the<br />

<br />

<br />

website, www.bubblegumwear.shop.<br />

Sebastian works at one of New<br />

York’s outstanding nightlife bars…<br />

However, he has also launched a<br />

new brand of men’s swimwear called<br />

“bubblegumwear”. He was inspired<br />

to create a new type of swimwear<br />

after searching for a swimsuit, but<br />

found none he liked. He decided to<br />

then make his own….<br />

<strong>Get</strong> <strong>Out</strong> magazine caught up with<br />

Sebastian regarding his swimwear.<br />

DOES BEING A BARTENDER AT<br />

BOXERS INSPIRE YOUR SWIMWEAR<br />

BRAND, AND IF SO, HOW?<br />

It does inspire, especially because we all<br />

wear boxers underwear behind the bar,<br />

so I can’t help to think about how I would<br />

incorporate my brand into my work at the<br />

bar and make everyone look better. I even<br />

had conversations with my bosses about<br />

doing something with the two brands.<br />

WHAT MAKES YOUR SWIMWEAR<br />

DIFFERENT FROM OTHER BRANDS?<br />

We want our brand to be known for always<br />

making sure we are delivering the best<br />

possible product, and that includes all our<br />

swimwear being environmentally friendly,<br />

made with bio fabrics. Also, designs that<br />

are original and fashionable.


DO YOU PLAN ON INCORPORATING<br />

YOUR SWIMWEAR WITH BOXERS<br />

SOMEHOW?<br />

We are planning on having events in the<br />

near future, we would also love to design<br />

something for the bartenders to wear.<br />

WHERE ARE YOU HOPING<br />

TO BE WITH BOTH OF YOUR<br />

CAREERS IN FIVE YEARS?<br />

We want to evolve and grow as<br />

brand. We are just at the beginning of<br />

<br />

<br />

we’d like to be positioned a little<br />

better in the market, so that<br />

we are better known<br />

and the number<br />

one option for<br />

our customers.


getoutmag.com week in pictures<br />

>> BY WILSONMODELS / wilsonmodels.blogspot.com<br />

DWORLD UNDERWEAR PARTY @ ICE PALACE FIRE ISLAND GROVE


getoutmag.com week in pictures<br />

LOW TEA @ BLUE WHALE FIRE ISLAND PINES<br />

>> BY WILSONMODELS / wilsonmodels.blogspot.com

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