Nick Cherniavsky Memoir - University of Illinois Springfield
Nick Cherniavsky Memoir - University of Illinois Springfield
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when you just started talking to than. So actually this is the extent <strong>of</strong><br />
my extremely liadted contact with people who had car^ directly from Red<br />
Russia.<br />
Q: Your uncle carte to see you in Shanghai about h t<br />
year?<br />
A: I muld say it ms 1927 or 1928 and now that you have asked IIE I<br />
recall the real reason for his caning to Sh-i was my aunt Evegenia,<br />
whose niJmame in the f mily WHS Baby. She w.s the second oldest dau&ter<br />
in the £aaily. My uncle ms the youngest mug the four children in that<br />
family. She ws dying with tukrculosis and that ms the reason for my<br />
uncle 's visit. Actually it ws not strictly social, it ms necessitated<br />
by the fact that his sister ws dying and he wanted to see her. That was<br />
the time in the Soviet Russian gaverrment's position *en there ms a<br />
small degree <strong>of</strong> laxity on allowing things like that just preceding the<br />
purge period when actually a mber <strong>of</strong> people mre allmd to leave Russia<br />
and take residency in &rope, in kame and Germany ddch very shortly ms<br />
totally cut <strong>of</strong>f and people who wnted to leave, they muld mre than<br />
likely get arrested and sent to a concentration camp.<br />
Q: Your awt Evegenia m s living in %anghai at the time?<br />
A: Yes.<br />
Q: 'Ws is not the sam aunt that was in . . .<br />
A: Indonesia, No. That tas Valia, Valentina.<br />
Q: Was this aunt married?<br />
A: The one who was dying frm tuberculosis? Yes. She ms married to<br />
another <strong>of</strong>f icer--Russian <strong>of</strong>ficer . Her husband vas a colonel, a veteran <strong>of</strong><br />
brld W r I just as my dad, and also a general staff <strong>of</strong>ficer and he ms in<br />
%anghai trying to write his rrrernoirs and as I recall, participating in<br />
some venture t m to form a Russian-language newspaper or samething to<br />
that effect. Years later, when I was mrking in another Russian-language<br />
newspaper in Tsingtao, rJhose editor ms also a Eomr Russian <strong>of</strong>ficer, a<br />
captain in artillery, who ms a gOOd persanal friend <strong>of</strong> my ht Evegenia's<br />
husband and he also wts involved in that newspaper venture and there was a<br />
whnle closet full <strong>of</strong> papers, <strong>of</strong> all sorts <strong>of</strong> old issues <strong>of</strong> that newspaper<br />
and uy aunt: ' s b band ' s writings. I have gone over those papers and<br />
lead a great deal about many facets <strong>of</strong> the Ehsian civil mr in Siberia<br />
which up to that tinre I did not know.<br />
Particularly there ms--ft actually should be the subject <strong>of</strong> a separate<br />
interview kt there wm a fascinating episode in that part <strong>of</strong> the Russian<br />
civil WK involvetrrent which involved &nerd Ungern--it's a Gem nanae,<br />
he ws <strong>of</strong> Geman origin but he ms unbelievably enough a Cossack general.<br />
He todc his cantingent from Russia into what today is knom as Outer<br />
Ibngolia and fought his way into the capitol city <strong>of</strong> Fbngolia<br />
v<br />
called Urga<br />
t the Chinese garrison and threw than out <strong>of</strong> the city and then out<br />
o Mongolia itself, occupied bngolia. IJle ws married-I believe the<br />
marriage w not corwmmated, it ws a political marriage and there are<br />
different versions--to either a Mongolian or a Tibetan young princess to<br />
stablize his political situation there. He reorganized his aq, unifonrred<br />
<strong>Nick</strong> <strong>Cherniavsky</strong> <strong>Memoir</strong>, vol. 2 - Archives/Special Collections - Norris L Brookens Library - <strong>University</strong> <strong>of</strong> <strong>Illinois</strong> at <strong>Springfield</strong> - UIS