saqarTvelos ebraelTa msoflio kongresis Jurnali №10, Tebervali 2012
saqarTvelos ebraelTa msoflio kongresis Jurnali №10, Tebervali 2012
saqarTvelos ebraelTa msoflio kongresis Jurnali №10, Tebervali 2012
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Cveni interviu<br />
rafi ginadi<br />
Tamari _ pirvel rigSi gmadlobT, rom damTanxmdiT<br />
interviuze.<br />
r. ginadi: _ simarTle rom giTxra, es aris uiSviaTesi<br />
SemTxveva, roca interviuze davTanxmdi vinmes.<br />
Tamari - gmadlobT. amaSi albaT imanac iTamaSa<br />
roli, rom me <strong>saqarTvelos</strong> <strong>ebraelTa</strong> <strong>kongresis</strong> warmomadgeneli<br />
var. gamigonia, mamaTqveni saqarTveloSi<br />
daibada.<br />
r. ginadi: - Cemi bebia da babua daibadnen saqarTveloSi,<br />
xolo me-19 saukunis miwurulSi israelSi<br />
amovidnen. isini pirveli gurjebTagani iyvnen ieruSalaimSi.<br />
bebia diasaxlisi iyo, babua fulis gadacvlaze<br />
muSaobda. 1917 wels, ruseTis revoluciis dros,<br />
igi gakotrda da xelcarieli darCa. mas komunistebisa<br />
ar sjeroda da mefisdroindeli fuli iyida mTeli Ce-<br />
modnebiT, romelic male mimoqcevidan gamovida. sxvaTa<br />
Soris, me maqvs im banknotebis nawili. babuas Svidi<br />
Svili hyavda. maT Soris erT-erTi mamaCemi iyo. me rom<br />
gavCndi, babua da bebia cocxlebi aRar iyvnen. dedaCemi<br />
warmoSobiT germaneli ebraeli iyo. aRzrdis sakiTxSi<br />
igi iyo dominanturi ojaxSi, mamaCemisgan erTi sityvac<br />
ar gamigonia qarTulad, SeiZleba icoda magram ar<br />
laparakobda. samzareuloc germanuli gvqonda. aravi-<br />
Tari kavSiri ar mqonda qarTul sazogadoebasTan.<br />
Tamari _ rodis gagiCndaT interesi Tqveni warmomavlobis<br />
mimarT, <strong>saqarTvelos</strong> mimarT?<br />
r. ginadi: - Cemi pirveli kavSiri <strong>saqarTvelos</strong>Tan<br />
damyarda am ramdenime wlis winaT. CemTan movida laSa<br />
Jvania, roca is <strong>saqarTvelos</strong> elCi iyo, xolo me - gazeT<br />
`iedioT axronoTis~ redaqtori. miTxra: Sen warmo-<br />
SobiT saqarTvelodan xar da miSa saakaSvili giwvevs<br />
saeqskursiod fesvebis mosanaxuleblado. marTlac<br />
wavedi 3-dRiani vizitiT, CasvlisTanave orsaaTiani<br />
saubari mqonda saakaSvilTan. mere, masTan erTad davaTvaliere<br />
ramdenime adgili. sadac mivdiodi, yvelgan<br />
satelevizio jgufi Tan damdevda da mere gavige,<br />
rom Cems yovel nabijs televiziiT gadascemdnen. bevrs<br />
ecadnen, magram ver miagnes Cemi winaprebis kvals, ja-<br />
erToba<br />
10<br />
gvesaubreba<br />
Jurnal `erTobas~ mTavari redaqtori Tamar mamisTvalovi amas winaT Sexvda da esaubra satelevizio<br />
Jurnal `qolbotekis~ xelmZRvanels rafi ginads (janaSvils).<br />
gTavazobT am saubris qarTul Targmans.<br />
naSvilebi Turme bevrni yofilan saqarTveloSi. mesame<br />
dRes didi banketi gamimarTes, saakaSvilma gadmomca<br />
<strong>saqarTvelos</strong> pasporti da piradobis mowmoba. es iyo<br />
2006 wels. me erT-erTi pirveli var, visac ormagi moqalaqeoba<br />
aqvs. me 2004 welSi miviRe <strong>saqarTvelos</strong> sapatio<br />
moqalaqis wodeba. sxvaTa Soris, iq gavecani<br />
qarTul saWmelsac, romelic Zalian bevrad jobia germanel<br />
<strong>ebraelTa</strong> samzareulos. imis Semdeg ramdenjerme<br />
viyavi saqarTveloSi. damyarda kargi urTierToba<br />
Cemsa da saakaSvils Soris. unda vTqva, rom igi dasavluri<br />
yaidis moRvawea. horvardis universiteti aqvs<br />
damTavrebuli. Zalian momewona, Tumca amas ver vityvi<br />
ruseTis mimarT mis poziciaze.<br />
Tamari - saqarTveloSi, mTavrobis warmomadgenlebis<br />
garda, albaT, SexvdebodiT rigiT adamianebsac,<br />
rogorc qristianebs, ise ebraelebs. ram miipyro Tqveni<br />
yuradReba, ra mogewonaT, ra ar mogewonaT? ram dagainteresaT?<br />
r.ginadi: pirveli STabeWdileba is iyo, rom iqauri<br />
adamianebi arian Tavmdablebi, gulTbilebi, keTilebi.<br />
televiziis meSveobiT Zalian bevrma gamicno. erTi sityviT,<br />
pirvel rigSi adamianebi momewona. meore, ramac<br />
momxibla,<br />
es aris qarTuli saWmelebi. davyavdiT sxvadasxva<br />
restornebSi. pirvelad vWame xaWapuri da xinkali /am<br />
or sityvas qarTulad ambobs, T. m./. kidev erTi ram, rac<br />
Zalian momewona - esaa qarTuli musika. saqarTveloSi<br />
yvela momReralia da yvela mReris. erTxel laSam Tavisi<br />
oTxi amxanagi momiyvana da oTx xmaze mRerodnen profesionalebiviT.<br />
garda amisa, saqarTveloSi araCveulebrivi<br />
bunebaa.<br />
Tamari _ israelSi Tu icnobT saqarTvelodan amosulebs?<br />
r. ginadi: - Zalian naklebad.<br />
Tamari -’<strong>saqarTvelos</strong> <strong>ebraelTa</strong> <strong>msoflio</strong> kongresi,<br />
romlis warmomadgenelic var amJamad TqvenTan, Zalian<br />
bevr mniSvnelovan da sasikeTo saqmes akeTebs ara marto<br />
Cveni TemisTvis, aramed israelis qveynisTvis da<br />
saerTod ebraelobisTvis, magaliTad: kongresma, misi<br />
prezidentis gabriel mirilaSvilis xelmZRvanelobiT,<br />
israelis saxelmwifos meTauris kancelariasTan<br />
SeTanxmebiT, Tavis ^Tavze aiRo Simon feresis saqvelmoqmedo<br />
fondis mier dawyebuli `feresis mSvidobis<br />
centris~ mSeneblobis damTavreba iafoSi; Tel-avivis<br />
centrSi, baalei hamelaxas quCaze rekonstruqcia gauke-<br />
Ta /faqtiurad xelaxla aaSena/ TiTqmis erTi saukunis<br />
winaT agebul orsarTulian Senobas, romelic dangrevis<br />
piras iyo misuli; didi Tanxa gadauricxa israelis<br />
Tavdacvis armias. da ase Semdeg da ase Semdeg. me mgonia,<br />
rom <strong>kongresis</strong> aseTi moRvaweobiT SeuZlia iamayos yvelam,<br />
visi fesvebic saqarTvelodan modis. Tqven meTanxmebiT?<br />
r. ginadi: diax, me mivesalmebi israelis qveynisa da<br />
ebraeli xalxis, misi memkvidreobis dacvis sasargeblod<br />
warmarTul RonisZiebebs.<br />
Tamari - b-no rafi, ager ukve aTeuli wlebia, Tqven<br />
migyavT israelis televiziis yvelaze popularuli,<br />
yvelaze warmatebuli da maRalreitingiani programa<br />
`qolboteki~. me darwmunebuli var, rom Tqveni maRali
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