facebook
20.11.2014 • Views
Share Embed Flag

facebook

facebook

facebook

SHOW MORE
SHOW LESS
ePAPER READ
DOWNLOAD ePAPER
saertoarchive.files.wordpress.com

Create successful ePaper yourself

Turn your PDF publications into a flip-book with our unique Google optimized e-Paper software.

START NOW

C M Y K<br />

#22 (206) • 9-15.V.2012 weli • gamodis yovel oTxSabaTs • www.saertogazeti.ge; E-mail: saertogazeti@yahoo.com • fasi 1 lari<br />

27 maiss<br />

yvelani<br />

Tavisuflebis<br />

moedanze!!!<br />

`me, biZina ivaniSvili, koalicia `qar-<br />

Tuli ocnebis~ lideri, 27 maiss 15:00 saaTze,<br />

gelodebiT aq, Tavisuflebis moedanze,<br />

rom erTad daviwyoT saqarTvelos<br />

gaerTianebis procesi da yvelam<br />

erTad avixdinoT `qarTuli ocneba~!

2<br />

saerTo gazeTi #22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

biZina ivaniSvili sazogadoebas 27 maiss<br />

Tavisuflebis moedanze Sekrebisken mouwodebs<br />

koalicia ,,qarTuli ocnebis”<br />

lideri biZina ivaniSvili sazogadoebas<br />

27 maiss Tavisuflebis<br />

moedanze Sekrebisken mouwodebs.<br />

aRniSnulis Sesaxeb videorgoli<br />

ivaniSvilis ,,feisbuqis”<br />

veb-gverdzea ganTavsebuli.<br />

,,me, biZina ivaniSvili, koalicia<br />

,,qarTuli ocnebis~ lideri,<br />

27 maiss 15:00 saaTze, gelodebiT<br />

aq, Tavisuflebis moedanze,<br />

rom erTad daviwyoT saqarTvelos<br />

gaerTianebis procesi<br />

da yvelam erTad avixdinoT ,,qarTuli ocneba~ _ aRniSnulia video mimarTvaSi.<br />

ivaniSvilis advokatebma saqarTvelos prezidentsa da<br />

samoqalaqo reestris saagentos sasamarTloSi uCivles<br />

biZina ivaniSvilis advokatebma<br />

samoqalaqo reestris saagentos da<br />

saqarTvelos prezidentis winaaRmdeg<br />

Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTloSi<br />

sarCeli Seitanes.<br />

rogorc dRes sastumro „Tbilisi<br />

meriotSi“ gamarTul preskonferenciaze<br />

biZina ivaniSvilis<br />

advokatebma _ aleqsandre baramiZem<br />

da Salva TadumaZem ganacxades,<br />

aRniSnuli sarCeliT<br />

sasamarTlosgan samoqalaqo reestris<br />

saagentos daskvna baTilad<br />

cnobas da prezidentis davaldebulebas<br />

moiTxoven, rom<br />

saqarTvelos prezidentma gamosces<br />

brZanebuleba biZina ivaniSvilis<br />

saqarTvelos moqalaqed<br />

miRebis Sesaxeb.<br />

rogorc advokatebma aRniSnes,<br />

es sarCeli Tbilisis saqalaqo<br />

sasamarTloSi 2 maiss Sevida.<br />

maTi TqmiT, sarCeli sasamar-<br />

Tlom ori Tvis vadaSi unda ganixilos.<br />

„2012 wlis 4 aprils saqarTvelos<br />

iusticiis saministros sistemaSi<br />

Semavalma sajaro samarTlis<br />

iuridiulma pirma _ samoqalaqo<br />

reestris saagentom gasca<br />

daskvna, romlis Tanaxmadac, biZina<br />

ivaniSvils rogorc ucxo qveynis<br />

moqalaqes, TiTqos ar SeeZlo miemarTa<br />

saqarTvelos prezidentisTvis<br />

gancxadebiT saqarTvelos moqalaqed<br />

miRebis Taobaze. saqarTvelos<br />

prezidents raime saxis administraciuli<br />

aqti am saqmeze ar<br />

gamoucia. samoqalaqo reestris saagentos<br />

daskvna aSkarad ewinaaRmdegeba<br />

„saqarTvelos moqalaqeobis<br />

Sesaxeb“ saqarTvelos organuli<br />

kanonis debulebas, romlis Tanaxmad,<br />

saqarTvelos prezidenti uflebamosilia<br />

miiRos gadawyvetileba<br />

ucxoel moqalaqeTa da moqalaqeobis<br />

armqone pirTa saqarTvelos<br />

moqalaqed miRebis Taobaze.<br />

igi aseve ewinaaRmdegeba kanonmdeblobiT<br />

dadgenil sxva normebsac“,<br />

_ aRniSna aleqsandre baramiZem.<br />

misi TqmiT, samoqalaqo reestris<br />

daskvna giorgi gabrielaSvilis<br />

mieraa momzadebuli, romelsac<br />

aRniSnuli saqcieli daufasda<br />

da samoqalaqo reestris saagentos<br />

xelmZRvanelad dainiSna.<br />

advokat Salva TadumaZis gancxadebiT,<br />

saqarTvelos prezidentma<br />

Tavis umoqmedobiT uxeSad daarRvia<br />

„saqarTvelos moqalaqeobis<br />

Sesaxeb“ saqarTvelos organuli<br />

kanonis moTxovna, romlis<br />

Tanaxmadac, swored saqar-<br />

Tvelos prezidenti Rebulobs<br />

gadawyvetilebas piris saqarTvelos<br />

moqalaqed miRebis Taobaze:<br />

dadebiTi gadawyvetilebis<br />

miRebis SemTxvevaSi igi gamoscems<br />

brZanebulebas, xolo uaryorfiTi<br />

gadawyvetilebis miRebis<br />

SemTxvevaSi gankargulebas.<br />

„maisis dasawyisSi Tbilisis<br />

saqalaqao sasamarTloSi sarCeli<br />

SevitaneT samoqalaqo reestris<br />

saagentosa da saqarTvelos prezidentis<br />

winaaRmdeg, romliTac moviTxovT:<br />

1. samoqalaqo reestris<br />

saagentos baTilad cnobas, 2. prezidentis<br />

davaldebulebas gamosces<br />

brZanebuleba biZina ivaniSvilis<br />

saqarTvelos moqalaqed miRebis<br />

Sesaxeb“, _ aRniSna TadumaZem.<br />

ivaniSvilis advokati: xelisufleba saqarTvelos<br />

moqalaqebs eqskluziur uflebas arTmevs<br />

biZina ivaniSvilis advokatis,<br />

aleqsandre baramiZis SefasebiT,<br />

saqarTvelos xelisuflebis mier<br />

ganxorcielebuli sakonstitucio<br />

cvlilebebi, romlis Tanaxmadac,<br />

evrokavSiris moqalaqeebs qveynis<br />

politikur procesebSi monawileobis<br />

ufleba eniWebaT, faqtobrivad,<br />

aris saqarTvelos moqalaqeebisTvis<br />

eqskluziuri uflebis CamorTmeva,<br />

romliTac maT sakuTari<br />

qveynis bedis gadawyvetis ufleba<br />

eZlevaT.<br />

rogorc dRes sastumro „Tbilisi<br />

meriotSi“ gamarTul preskonferenciaze<br />

advokatma ganacxada,<br />

ivaniSvils sruliad dausabuTeblad<br />

da ukanonod uTxres uari saqarTvelos<br />

moqalaqeobaze.<br />

„aris mcdeloba, rom biZina ivaniSvils<br />

raRac sxva SemovliTi<br />

gzebiT mieniWos SesaZlebloba,<br />

rom man miiRos monawileoba arCevnebSi.<br />

gaugebaria, ra saWiroa SemovliTi<br />

gzebi, Tuki vTvliT, rom<br />

ivaniSvilma unda miiRos monawileoba<br />

arCevnebSi. xelisufleba TviTneburad,<br />

raRac ucnauri Sexedulebebisamebr<br />

cdilobs miiRos ise-<br />

Ti gadawyvetilebebi da mimarTos<br />

iseT gzebs, romlebic TavisTavad<br />

ukanonoa da amasTanave, sxva ukanonobis<br />

gadafarvis mizans emsaxureba“,<br />

_ aRniSna baramiZem.<br />

misi TqmiT, aRniSnuli ukanonoba<br />

SemdegSi mdgomareobs: nebismieri<br />

qveynis konstituciur-samarTlebrivi<br />

sistema aris agebuli ise,<br />

rom am qveynis bedi unda gadawyviton<br />

am qveynisve moqalaqeebma.<br />

baramiZis SefasebiT, igi logikas<br />

ver xedavs imaSi, rom qveynis<br />

bedi sxva qveynis moqalaqeebma gadawyviton.<br />

„rodesac ucxo qveynis moqalaqes<br />

aZlev uflebas, rom man miiRos<br />

monawileoba arCevnebSi da aniWeb<br />

orive saarCevno uflebas rogorc<br />

pasiurs, ise aqtiurs, amiT mas aZlev<br />

SesaZleblobas, rom man gadawyvitos<br />

im qveynis bedi, romlis<br />

moqalaqec ar aris. Teoriulad SesaZlebelia<br />

miviRoT iseTi viTareba,<br />

rodesac saqarTvelos parlaments<br />

Tavidan bolomde daakompleqteben<br />

ucxo qveynis moqalaqeebi.<br />

me amaSi veraviTar logikas ver<br />

vxedav. es aris, faqtobrivad, saqarTvelos<br />

moqalaqeebisaTvis eqskluziuri<br />

uflebis CamorTmeva, rom<br />

maT gadawyviton Tavisi qveynis bedi“,<br />

_ aRniSna baramiZem.<br />

`medianiusi~<br />

Tengiz svaniZe _ 75<br />

75 wlisa Sesrulda TvalsaCino qarTveli poeti<br />

Tengiz svaniZe amasTan dakavSirebiT saqarTvelos<br />

mweralTa kavSirma iubilars misalmeba gaugzavna.<br />

misalmebaSi naTqvamia:<br />

Cveno sayvarelo Tengiz!<br />

saqarTvelos mweralTa kavSiri, Tqveni megobari<br />

qarTveli mwerlebi gulmxurvaled mogesalmebian<br />

Rvawlmosil, uaRresad sayuradRebo Semoqmeds da<br />

gilocaven RirsSesaniSnav TariRs Tqvens cxovreba-<br />

Si _ dabadebis 75 da literaturul-SemoqmedebiTi<br />

moRvaweobis 50 wlisTavs.<br />

Tqveni mwerluri naTloba 1961 wels Sedga, rodesac<br />

gazeT `axalgazrda komunistSi~ gamoaqveyneT<br />

pirveli leqsi `dadis bilikebze~. mas Semdeg Tqveni<br />

nawarmoebebi periodulad qveyndeba saliteraturo<br />

Jurnal-gazeTebSi, gamodis calke wignebad.<br />

Tqveni poeturi krebulebi `mTvaris sizmrebi~,<br />

`lurji siSore~, `Tovlis yvavili~, `sevdis naTeli~,<br />

`bobis gaxseneba~, `101 leqsi siyvarulze~,<br />

`rCeuli~, `aTovs mowyenas~ da sxvebi mkiTxvels<br />

xiblavs marTali da ZarRviani striqonebiT, samSoblos<br />

uebro da usinjo siyvarulis dauokebeli<br />

wyurviliT, avtoris maradiuli surviliT, Tesos<br />

sikeTe da saTnoeba. am krebulebis gacnobisas kidev<br />

erTxel vrwmundebiT, rom poetebi mzis Svilebi<br />

arian, romlebic daJinebiT cdiloben sakuTar sulebSi<br />

bavSvis, maradiuli bavSvis gadarCenas. gvixaria,<br />

rom Tqvens arsebaSi maRali zneobrioba, moqalaqeobrivi<br />

principebi, kultura da ganaTleba harmoniulad<br />

erwymis niWierebasa da TviTmyofadobas,<br />

ris gareSec warmoudgenelia WeSmariti Semoqmedi...<br />

Tqven, martosuli poeti brZandebiT da glovobT<br />

marTlac rom glovisfer saRamos binds, ase meTodurad<br />

rom faravs Tqveni samSoblos sanaxebs...<br />

gviyvarxarT imitomac, rom sulisSemZvreli striqonebi<br />

uZRveniT Tqveni oTxfexi megobris _ Tqveni<br />

ZaRlis _ uerTgulesi bobis xsovnas...<br />

Tqveni leqsi emociuria, wrfeli da saTuTi...<br />

teqnikuri inteligenciis warmomadgeneli brZandebiT,<br />

sad ar gimuSaviaT, manqanaTmSeneblobis<br />

kvleviTi institutis ufros mecnier-muSakad Tu<br />

TbilqalaqmSenis sawarmoo kombinatis mTavar meqanikosad,<br />

meqanizaciis sammarTvelos ufrosad Tu<br />

kombinatis direqtoris moadgiled da yvelgan amayad<br />

atarebdiT qarTveli mwerlis saxels, yvelgan<br />

profesionalizmiTa da sikeTis keTebiT gamoirCeodiT.<br />

Tqvens megobrebze didi STabeWdileba moaxdina<br />

Tqvenma triptixma, romelic saqarTvelos sulier<br />

mwyemss, uwmindessa da unetares ilia II miuZRveniT.<br />

Cveno Tengiz!<br />

kidev erTxel guliTadad gilocavT saiubileo<br />

TariRs Cinebul poetsa da moqalaqes, didxans sicocxles,<br />

janmrTelobas da axal SemoqmedebiT miRwevebs<br />

gisurvebT.<br />

saqarTvelos mweralTa kavSiri<br />

`saerTo gazeTi~<br />

mTavari redaqtori: vaxtang xarCilava<br />

gamomcemeli: Sps sagamomcemlo centri `saerTo sityva~<br />

mis: Tbilisi, aRmaSeneblis 164;<br />

tel.: 2 14 40 19; 2 34 28 97<br />

regist. #202375349; uak (UDC) 070.23 (479.22) s-158<br />

gazeTi xelmZRvanelobs Tavisufali presis principiT.<br />

SesaZloa, avtoris pozicia ar eTanxmebodes redaqciis azrs.<br />

informaciis sizusteze pasuxismgebelia avtori. gasaCivreba<br />

SesaZlebelia masalis gamoqveynebidan erTi kviris vadaSi.<br />

Semosuli masalebi avtorebs ar ubrundeba.<br />

am niSniT aRniSnulia sareklamo masalebi.

#22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi<br />

3<br />

rogorc cnobili parafsiqologi<br />

da eqstrasensi serJ delakrua<br />

irwmuneba, biZina ivaniSvili<br />

araCveulebrivi telepatiuri ni-<br />

WiT aris dajildoebuli da mas<br />

SeuZlia Tavis oponentebze Sori<br />

manZilidan, distanciurad, iseTi<br />

fsiqologiuri zewola moaxdinos,<br />

rom mwyobridan gamoiyvanos,<br />

anu, Cveneburad rom vTqvaT, daadebilos,<br />

gaagiJos, gaafreninos.<br />

serJ delakrua _ me didi xania<br />

vakvirdebi baton biZinas. is<br />

ara marto brwyinvale fsiqoanalitikosia,<br />

aramed Zalian Zlieri<br />

eqstrasensi da telepatia.<br />

is amJamad or subieqtze muSaobs<br />

distanciurad da, rogorc<br />

dakvirveba gvaCvenebs, SesaniSnav<br />

Sedegebs aRwevs.<br />

es ori subieqti gaxlavT mixeil<br />

saakaSvili da Salva naTelaSvili.<br />

am ori sacdel-saeqsperimento<br />

subieqtis<br />

bolodroindel qcevebs,<br />

maT Jestikulacias,<br />

metyvelebas, agresiul<br />

gamoxtomebs Tu daakvirdebiT,<br />

naTelia, rom<br />

orives aSkarad etyoba<br />

frenologiis niSnebi _<br />

akviatebuli ideebi, Si-<br />

Sebi, devnis mania, mania<br />

grandioza, narcisizmi,<br />

egocentrizmi daavadebaTa<br />

iseT `Taiguls~<br />

qmnis, romelTanac gamklaveba<br />

Tanamedrove medicinas<br />

Zalian uWirs.<br />

nu davidebT codvas da yvelafers<br />

biZina ivaniSvils nu davabralebT,<br />

_ zemoTCamoTvlili daavadebebis<br />

umravlesoba, rac am<br />

or subieqts Wirs, Tandayolilia,<br />

Tumca ramdenime daavadeba<br />

aSkarad ivaniSvilis mier aris<br />

stimulirebul-provocirebuli.<br />

magaliTad, panikuri SiSi da<br />

amiT gamowveuli araadeqvaturi<br />

qmedebebi, rac bolo xans saaakaSvils<br />

dasCemda, cxadia, biZina ivaniSvilis<br />

politikaSi Semosvlas<br />

da mis mier ganxorcielebul taqtikur-strategiul<br />

svlebs ukav-<br />

Sirdeba.<br />

gansakuTrebiT mZafrad moqmedebs<br />

saakaSvilze ivaniSvilis gadawyvetileba,<br />

rom xelisufleba<br />

mxolod arCevnebis gziT unda Seicvalos.<br />

saakaSvils uWirs molodinis<br />

reJimSi cxovreba, uWirs imis<br />

warmodgenac ki, rom, SeiZleba,<br />

arCevnebSi waagos, rac misTvis<br />

katastrofis tolfasia,<br />

ivaniSvili ki mas am<br />

SiSs kidev ufro<br />

umZafrebs _ Tavisi<br />

biznescentris<br />

yvelaze bolo<br />

sarTulze, specialurad<br />

eqstrasensul-parafsiqologiur-telepatiuri<br />

saqmianobisTvis<br />

rogorc cnobili eqstrasensi serJ<br />

delakrua irwmuneba, biZina ivaniSvili<br />

Tavis oponentebze Sori manZilidan<br />

fsiqologiur zewolas axdens da<br />

zogs adebilebs da zogs agiJebs...<br />

mowyobil saidumlo laboratoriaSi<br />

zis da saakaSvilis mimar-<br />

TulebiT uwyvet telepatiur<br />

signals agzavnis _ veravin ver<br />

gviSvelis, arCevnebs waageb! veraferi<br />

gixsnis _ arCevnebSi<br />

damarcxdebi!<br />

yovel aseT<br />

signalze saakaSvili<br />

cofdeba<br />

Turme da<br />

Tavis garemocvas<br />

cocxals da<br />

mkvdars utrialebs:<br />

_ gako-<br />

WeT! daiWireT!<br />

cixeSi CaagdeT!<br />

xma CaakmendineT,<br />

Torem tanSi WianWvelebi<br />

mivlis,<br />

tvin-<br />

Sic WianWvelebi<br />

darbian...<br />

gavgiJdebi!<br />

amaswinaT,<br />

xom naxeT, ra<br />

damarTa ivaniSvilma<br />

maxaTas<br />

mTaze asul<br />

saakaSvils<br />

_ manqanidan<br />

gadmovida<br />

Tu ara,<br />

egreve<br />

ajaxa<br />

kojridan<br />

signali da es amxela kaci<br />

lamis miwaze daagdo.<br />

saakaSvilis Tvalebi xom naxeT<br />

_ azris natamali ar qonda Sig _<br />

esec ivaniSvilis damsaxureba iyo.<br />

rac Seexeba Salva naTelaSvils,<br />

impulsuri da emociuri<br />

naTelaSvili Zalze<br />

advilad eqvemdebareba<br />

fsiqologiur zewolas<br />

_ erTi saSualo<br />

simZlavris sxivi<br />

da qaris wisqviliviT<br />

iwyebs xelebis<br />

qnevas _ miSveleT!<br />

mklaven!<br />

teraqts<br />

miwyoben!<br />

ivaniSvils<br />

Cemi mokvla<br />

unda<br />

da sa-<br />

erTa-<br />

Soriso<br />

Tanamegobrobas SeatyobineT,<br />

damicvan am banditisgan.<br />

ivaniSvili mxolod<br />

naxevari doziT moqmedebs<br />

naTelaSvilze _ imdenad<br />

susti fsiqika<br />

aqvs, mTeli doza rom gamoviyeno,<br />

SeiZleba saer-<br />

Tod gagiJdes da codvaao,<br />

_ uTqvams.<br />

oriode dRis winaT, roca na-<br />

TelaSvili brifings atarebda,<br />

mis gverdiT gugavac mdgara. cota<br />

meti fsiqodasxiveba mosvlia<br />

Turme baton biZinas da naTelaSvilTan<br />

erTad gugavac asxmartalebula.<br />

_ doza erT kacze iyo gaTvlili<br />

da or kacs ase rogor<br />

mouTava xelio, _ ukvirda<br />

Turme baton biZinas, SalvasTan<br />

erTad gugavas fxarkals rom<br />

uyurebda.<br />

delakruas azriT, mTavar<br />

siurprizs Semodgomaze, oqtombris<br />

saparlamento arCevneb-<br />

Si unda velodoT, roca biZina<br />

ivaniSvili mTel Tavis SesaZleblobebs<br />

aamoqmedebs.<br />

ai, maSin naxeT Tqven<br />

ivaniSvilis fsiqologiuri<br />

zemoqmedebiT nacmoZraobis<br />

da leiboristebis<br />

mxardamWerebis<br />

mier koalicia `qar-<br />

Tuli ocnebis~ sasargeblod<br />

biuletenebis<br />

Cayra da saakaSvili-na-<br />

TelaSvilis gadareva.<br />

jerjerobiT ki biZina ivaniSvili<br />

dinjad, Tanmimdevrulad<br />

axorcielebs mixeil saakaSvilis<br />

fsiqologiur damuSavebas da,<br />

rogorc ityvian, nabij-nabij<br />

mihyavs igi im `fsixuSkisken~,<br />

sadac bevri<br />

stalini, bevri bonaparati<br />

da bevri aRmaSenebeli<br />

cxovrobs.<br />

rac Seexeba<br />

Salva naTelaSvils,<br />

delakruas<br />

ganmartebiT, mas<br />

ukve ar sWirdeba<br />

`mkurnaloba~, is<br />

sicocxlis<br />

bolomde<br />

sul `janmrTeli~<br />

da `janmr-<br />

Teli~ iqneba...

4 saerTo gazeTi #22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

gvesaubreba biZina ivaniSvilis<br />

mrCeveli, `Tavisufali<br />

demokratebis~ gamgeobis wevri,<br />

diplomati zaza gogsaZe:<br />

27 maiss Tavisuflebis moedanze<br />

sruliad saqarTvelos SevkrebT<br />

da erT muStad gavaerTianebT!<br />

_ batono zaza, 21 aprils<br />

partia ukve dafuZnda, ra iqneba<br />

Semdegi nabijebi?<br />

_ koalicia `qarTuli ocneba~,<br />

partia _`qarTuli ocneba<br />

_ demokratiuli saqarTvelo~<br />

biZina ivaniSvilis xelm-<br />

ZRvanelobiT axal-axali nabijebisTvis<br />

vemzadebiT, rac saboloo<br />

jamSi arCevnebSi gamarjvebamde<br />

migviyvans. maisis bolos<br />

vapirebT mxardamWerebis-<br />

Tvis, didi RonisZiebis gamar-<br />

Tvas, sadac sakuTar miznebsa<br />

da amocanebs warvadgenT da aqtiur<br />

saarCevno kampanias<br />

daviwyebT. 27 maiss `qarTuli<br />

ocneba~ Tavisuflebis moedazne<br />

Sesakrebad vemzadebiTm<br />

sadac Cvens samomavlo gegmebsac<br />

gavacnobT sazogadoebas.<br />

_ anu ras mieZRvneba 27<br />

maisis Sekreba _ sakUTari gegmebis<br />

gacnobas?<br />

_ es axali etapis dawyebis<br />

dRe iqneba, anu Cven ukve vafiqsirebT,<br />

rom viwyebT axal<br />

etaps, rasac uSualod arCevnebisTvis<br />

samzadisi hqvia. rac<br />

Seexeba, manifestacias, 27 maiss<br />

Tavisuflebis moedanze<br />

sruliad saqarTvelos SevkrebT<br />

da erT muStad gavaerTianebT!<br />

bevri kiTxva Cndeba imas-<br />

Tan dakavSirebiT, Tu ratom<br />

gadavwyviteT am TariRis aRniSvna<br />

maSin, roca `saxalxo<br />

krebas~ am dRes ukve hqonda<br />

RonisZieba dagegmili. amaSi gansakuTrebuli<br />

araferia, 26 maisi<br />

mniSvnelovani TariRia<br />

qveynisTvis da yvelas gvinda<br />

misi aRniSvna. piriqiT, am dros,<br />

ra Tqma unda, yvela erTad<br />

unda iyos.<br />

mTavari opoziciuri Zala,<br />

koaliciaSia Tavmoyrili. dRes<br />

ori polusia Seqmnili: erTi<br />

_ xelisuflebis da meore _<br />

opoziciuri, romelic ivaniSvilis<br />

garSemoa Sekrebili.<br />

swored, am dros 26 maisi<br />

CvenTvis mniSvnelovania, am<br />

dRiT vafiqsirebT, rom erTad<br />

varT, SevdivarT safinalo<br />

xazze, rasac arCevnebi<br />

hqvia. bunebrivia, 26<br />

maiss, yvelas prerogativa<br />

damoukideblobis<br />

dRis aRniSvnaa. rasakvirvelia,<br />

26 maiss yvela<br />

aRniSnavs imas, rac<br />

SarSan moxda. xelisuflebam<br />

jer ar naxuli<br />

sisxliani darbeva<br />

moawyo, saSinlad gausworda<br />

qarTvel xalxs.<br />

ra Tqma unda, amis winaaRmdegia<br />

sruliad<br />

progresuli sazogadoeba,<br />

maT Soris Cvenc.<br />

_ ivaniSvilis politikaSi<br />

Semosvlis<br />

dRidan, xalxi molodinis re-<br />

JimSia. uSualod maT rodis<br />

warudgenT programas, Tu ras<br />

sTavazobs maT konkretulad<br />

biZina ivaniSvili?<br />

_ axla, regionebSi aqtiur<br />

siaruls da ideebis propagandas<br />

daviwyebT. bunebrivia,<br />

mosaxleobasTan Sexvedrisas<br />

Cvens programebze visaubrebT.<br />

_ Tumca, axlaxan, kontrolis<br />

palatam, amjerad is xalxi<br />

dakiTxa, vinc `qarTul ocnebas~<br />

ofisebi miaqirava. rogor<br />

apirebT am fonze brZolis<br />

mogebas?<br />

_ Cemi varaudiT, es maTi<br />

daSinebis mizniT xdeba. vis ra-<br />

Si ekiTxeba ratom miaqiraves<br />

`qarTul ocnebas~ adamianebma<br />

TavianTi kuTvnileba? maT ekiTxebian,<br />

ra kavSiri gaqvT `qarTul<br />

ocnebasTano~. amaze pasuxi<br />

xelisuflebas unda movkiTxoT.<br />

xalxs masiurad ibareben.<br />

xelisuflebas amiT Semdegi<br />

mizani aqvs _ hgoniaT,<br />

rom xalxs daaSineben da sxva<br />

veRar gabedavs Cvenze farTis<br />

moqiravebas. xelisufleba yvelanairi<br />

meTodiT cdilobs Zalauflebis<br />

SenarCunebas. Cveni<br />

ubedureba swored isaa, rom<br />

xalxma ver gaiTavisa, rom sakuTar<br />

beds Tavad wyvets. es<br />

maT erTxel da samudamod unda<br />

gaiTavison. saqarTveloSi<br />

xalxs es gacnobierebuli ar<br />

aqvs. maT hgoniaT, rom rogoradac<br />

ar unda iaqtiuron, xelisufleba<br />

arCevnebs mainc gaayalbebs,<br />

arCevnebs moigebs da<br />

vinc opoziciis mxardamWeri<br />

iyo daisjeba. xalxs eSinia,<br />

rac absoluturad gasagebia,<br />

magram arc is unda daviviwyoT,<br />

rom SiSi ver ixsnis<br />

sikvdilsa. Tu SiSs davZlevT,<br />

gadavwyvetT arCevnebze vaJkacurad<br />

mivideT da yvelam xma<br />

im partias mivceT, vinc Cven<br />

gvinda, Tu xalxis aqtiuroba<br />

Zalian maRali iqneba, xelisufleba<br />

arCevnebs ver gaayalbebs.<br />

_ magram xalxi rom gaaqtiurdes,<br />

opoziciamac igive magaliTi<br />

xom unda uCvenos?<br />

_ vmuSaobT xalxTan. yvelafers<br />

Tavisi dasawyisi da<br />

dasasruli aqvs. arCevnebamde<br />

xom ar SeiZleba erTi tempiT<br />

vimuSaoT?! yvelaferi gawerili<br />

gvaqvs da gegmis mixedviT<br />

midis.<br />

_ alasaniam Tqva milioni<br />

adamianis mobilizebas movaxdenTo,<br />

ra keTdeba am kuTxiT?<br />

_ rodesac xalxSi gadixar,<br />

eubnebi maT xma momeciT _<br />

es mobilizacia ar aris?! masiurad<br />

vmuSaobT xalxTan, davdivarT<br />

regionebSi, alasanias<br />

ukve 200-ze meti sofeli aqvs<br />

movlili, axla senakis mosaxleobas<br />

xvdeba. es milioni<br />

adamianis mobilizeba ar aris,<br />

aba, ra aris?!<br />

_ Tqven ki eubnebiT xma<br />

mogvecio, magram ra garantiaa,<br />

rom xelisuflebis represiuli<br />

manqana Tqvenze ukeT ar mu-<br />

Saobs?<br />

_ gasagebia, raRac procenti,<br />

albaT represirebuli iqneba,<br />

da ver gabedavs xmis mocemas,<br />

zogic nihilisturad<br />

ganwyobili, magram aseTi procenti<br />

rac SeiZleba dabali<br />

unda iyos. xalxma nihilizms<br />

unda sZlios.<br />

_ ivaniSvilis politikaSi<br />

mosvlis<br />

dRidan xelisuflebis<br />

mxridan ukanonobebis<br />

kaskadi ar wydeba...<br />

_ es xelisuflebis<br />

sisusteze mianiSnebs.<br />

rac ufro finalisken<br />

wavalT, miT<br />

met ukanonobas Caidenen.<br />

Cven amisTvis mzad<br />

varT da xalxic unda<br />

iyos mzad, maT aqtiurad<br />

unda aRimaRlon<br />

xma am ukanonobis winaaRmdeg.<br />

unda damTavrdes<br />

xelisuflebaze CabRau-<br />

Webis politika. xelisufleba-<br />

Si mosvlis Semdeg Tu Cven ar<br />

vivargebT, Catardeba arCevnebi<br />

da wavalT. CvenTvis mTavari<br />

iqneba xalxi da ara rogorme<br />

xelisuflebaSi darCena.<br />

_ arCevnebamde sxva formiT<br />

rom gavilaSqroT, amas ra uSlis<br />

xels, Tundac davafiqsiroT<br />

Cveni protesti ivaniSvilisadmi<br />

ukanonod CamorTmeuli<br />

moqalaqeobis mimarT?<br />

_ ver vityvi, rom xalxi<br />

ar iTxovs amas, magram Tavad<br />

batoni biZina erideba xalxisadmi<br />

mowodebas, Tumca Cven<br />

aqtiurad vibrZviT amisTvis.<br />

ra ufleba aqvT, rom ar aZleven<br />

moqalaqeobas? xalxma yvelgan<br />

unda daafiqsiros, rom<br />

is, rasac xelisufleba ake-<br />

Tebs zRvargadasuli, binZuri<br />

ukanonobaa. es SantaJia simar-<br />

Tlis winaaRmdeg. xval viRac<br />

ucxoeli Camova da mas SeiZleba<br />

maSinve moqalaqeoba miscen.<br />

amis sawinaaRmdego araferi<br />

maqvs, demokratiuli principebis<br />

momxre var, magram er-<br />

Ti ram ver gamigia _ viRac gadamTiels<br />

meore dResve vaZlevT<br />

moqalaqeobas da kacs,<br />

romelmac naxevari saqarTvelo<br />

aaSena moqalaqeobas varTmevT?<br />

Tu ara igi, vin aris aba saqar-<br />

Tvelos moqalaqe, mixeil saakaSvili,<br />

romelmac teritoriebis<br />

20 procenti dakarga?!<br />

_ am yvelafridan erTi<br />

daskvnis gakeTeba SeiZleba, kanonis<br />

farglebSi am xelisuflebasTan<br />

saubari SeuZlebelia.<br />

aki uwoda kidec alasaniam<br />

maT kalveras banda. kalveras<br />

bandas arCevnebiT rogor<br />

unda ebrZoloT?<br />

_ simarTle imarjvebs. rodesac<br />

ukmayofilo xalxi raodenobrivad<br />

izrdeba, es mere<br />

xarisxobriobaSi gadadis. es<br />

filosofiuri kanonzomierebaa<br />

da aucileblad ase moxdeba. am<br />

ukanono gzebiT mebrZol xelisuflebas<br />

arCevnebiT mainc movugebT.<br />

mTavari aqtivoba da<br />

xalxis ganwyobaa. Tumca, brZola<br />

advili ar iqneba.<br />

_ bolo dros saubroben,<br />

rom saakaSvili kvlav inarCunebs<br />

aSS-s mxardaWeras da am<br />

ukanasknels araferi scxia<br />

imisa, rom miSas gadayenebis<br />

momxrea. Tqven ras fiqrobT<br />

amaze?<br />

_ saakaSvils sazRvargareT<br />

aRaravin uWers mxars. qarTvelebi<br />

Zalian varT damokidebuli<br />

imaze, Tu rogor gviWeren<br />

ucxoeTidan mxars. samwuxarod,<br />

moxda ise, rom Tu 7-8<br />

wlis win saqarTvelo ucxoe-<br />

Tis sagareo politikaSi privilegirebul<br />

adgils ikavebda,<br />

dRes gacilebiT dabal safexurzea,<br />

rasac am xelisuflebam<br />

Seuwyo xeli. dRes iqneba<br />

ara ise, rogorc aSS-s unda,<br />

aramed ise, rogorc qarTveli<br />

xalxi gadawyvets. aSS ki<br />

mxars dauWers xalxs da ara<br />

saakaSvils.<br />

_ konstituciaSi cvlileba<br />

Sedis, romlis Tanaxmad ivaniSvils<br />

SeeZleba arCevnebSi<br />

monawileobis ufleba, magram<br />

ara finansebis xarjva.<br />

_ maT eSiniaT, rom arCevnebs<br />

movigebT da kanons yurs<br />

iqiT abamen, saiTac surT. dRes<br />

moagondaT, rom Turme es kanoni<br />

ar yofila swori da adre<br />

Tu SeiZleboda dafinansebis<br />

miReba, axla aRar SeiZleba.<br />

wina arCevnebze kenWs rom iyridnen,<br />

ratom maSin ar Secvales<br />

es kanoni, ra maSin ar<br />

hyavdaT iuristebi?! am yvelafers<br />

maT SiSi akeTebinebs. sam-<br />

Tavrobo saaTze merabiSvilma<br />

Tqva _ Tu vova sanakoevi qar-<br />

Tul saqmes gaakeTebs, ar gvainteresebs<br />

igi vin aris, Tundac<br />

fsb-s agenti iyos, ucxo<br />

kapitals suni ar aqvso. ver<br />

gavige, ivaniSvilze rom amboben<br />

rusuli fuli aqvs da mxari<br />

ar dauWiroTo, ras niSnavs<br />

es gancxadeba?! eseni imdenad<br />

gagiJdnen, yvelafers kadruloben.<br />

midis propaganda, rom<br />

ivaniSvils fuli ruseTSi<br />

aqvs naSovni, rac sruli absurdia.<br />

maSin, sanakoevis fuli<br />

ratom gvinda, gaurkvevelia.<br />

ras hgavs es?<br />

_ batonma biZinam erT-erT<br />

konferenciaze quCaSi gamosvlac<br />

ar gamoricxa. gubaz sanikiZemac<br />

Tqva amas winaT erTerT<br />

interviuSi _ gamovalT,<br />

ga-mo-val-To! marTlac gegmavT<br />

aqciebs?<br />

_ calkeul sakiTxebze SeiZleba<br />

mitingi Catardes an<br />

raime moTxovna gaJRerdes, magram<br />

es sul sxvaa. Cven vemzadebiT<br />

arCevnebisTvis da ara<br />

aqciebisaTvis.<br />

Tamar SveliZe

#22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

saerTo gazeTi<br />

5<br />

gasul kviras amerikis respublikurma<br />

saerTaSoriso institutma<br />

IRI-m kvlevis Sedegebi<br />

gamoaqveyna, romelmac sazogadoebaSi<br />

bevri kiTxvis ni-<br />

Sani gaaCina. konkretulad ratom<br />

arsebobs aseTi negatiuri<br />

damokidebuleba kvlevebisadmi<br />

da SesaZloa, Tu ara kvlevis<br />

Sedegebma gavlena iqonios,<br />

amomrCevlis gadawyvetilebaze.<br />

,,saerTo gazeTs” politologi<br />

ramaz sayvareliZe esaubra.<br />

_ batono ramaz, ras fiqrobT<br />

aSS-is saerTaSoriso<br />

respublikuri institutis mier<br />

Catarebul kvelvebze, ramdenad<br />

damajereblad migaCniaT?<br />

_ IRI-is mier Catarebuli<br />

kvlevis Sedegebi damajereblad<br />

ar mimaCnia da samwuxarod, am<br />

undoblobas ewireba is, rac yvelze<br />

Zalian miyvars _ sociologiaa.<br />

kvlevisadmi, pirvel<br />

rigSi, Cemi undobloba ganpirobebulia<br />

im saidumloebebiT,<br />

rac axasiaTebs IRI-isa da NDIis<br />

kvlevebs. isini zust monacemebs<br />

ar aqveyneben da mere<br />

mkiTxaoba gviwevs. vgulisxmob,<br />

Tundac politikuri partiis<br />

reitingebs, romelsac Tavad ar<br />

axmovaneben, magram viRaca yovelTvis<br />

aqveynebs da mere gviwevs<br />

mkiTxaoba, Tu ramdenad<br />

zustia gavrcelebuli cifrebi.<br />

bunebrivia, monacemebs avrcelebs<br />

is partia, visTvisac dadebuli<br />

reitingebi ufro xelsayrelia.<br />

IRI-is kvlevaSi aris<br />

aseTi kiTxva, Tu romel liders<br />

endobiT opoziciidan. sainteresoa,<br />

ratom aris am formiT<br />

dasmuli SekiTxva? saer-<br />

Tod vis endobiT ar SeiZleboda<br />

ase dasmuliyo SekiTxva? am<br />

SemTxvevaSi, roca ase viwrovdeba<br />

sakiTxi, bunebrivia, ,,nacionaluri”<br />

moZraobisTvis ufro<br />

upriani iqneba kvlevaSi SedarebiT<br />

,,rbili” opozicioneris<br />

lideroba, vidre Tundac biZina<br />

ivaniSvilis.<br />

_ kiTxvaze, Tu romel opoziciur<br />

liders endobiT, kvlevis<br />

mixedviT 28%-iT giorgi<br />

TargamaZe liderobs, meore adgilze<br />

21%-iT biZina ivaniSvilia.<br />

es cifrebi ramdenad asaxavs<br />

im politikur realobas,<br />

rac qveyanaSia Seqmnili?<br />

_ es kiTxva unda daesvaT im<br />

adamianebisTvis, vinc opoziciis<br />

mxardamWeria da ara yvelasTvis.<br />

,,nacionaluri” moZraobis<br />

mxardamWers rom hkiTxav opoziciidan<br />

vis uWers mxarso,<br />

cxadia, daasaxelebs iseT kandidats,<br />

vinc misTvis da xelisuflebisTvis<br />

ufro komfortulia.<br />

giorgi TargamaZe, rogorc<br />

Cans, mmarTveli gundisTvis<br />

misaRebi opoziciuri lideria.<br />

_ batono ramaz, cota xnis<br />

win ,,qdm” daviT lorTqifaniZem<br />

politikuri Sexedulebis gamo<br />

datova da ,,qarTul ocnebaSi”<br />

gadavida. Tqvenc iziarebT mosazrebas,<br />

rom ,,qristian-demokratebi”<br />

xelisuflebis TamaSs<br />

TamaSoben?<br />

_ yovel SemTxvevaSi, xelisuflebisTvis<br />

,,qristiandemokratiuli”<br />

moZraoba arasasurvel<br />

partiad ar aRiqmeba.<br />

sakonstitucio iniciativa,<br />

rac moZraobis wevrebma wamoayenes,<br />

,,nacionalebma” aRfrTovanebiT<br />

,,aitaces” da aseTi<br />

harmonia maT Soris xSirad<br />

ikiTxeba. Tavs vityuebT Tu<br />

erTmaneTs vatyuebT _ gaugebaria.<br />

_ respublikuri institutis<br />

kvlevaSi kiTxvaze: xval<br />

rom saparlamento arCevnebi iyos,<br />

romel partias dauWerdiT<br />

mxars reitingi ase gadanawilda<br />

_ ,,nacionaluri moZraoba~<br />

45%, ,,qarTuli ocneba” _ 15%,<br />

,,qdm” _ 9%. ras fiqrobT am<br />

maCveneblebze?<br />

_ am formiT dasmul SekiTxvaze<br />

aseT Sedegs rom miiRebdnen,<br />

Zneli asaxsneli ar<br />

unda iyos. vfiqrob, es suraTi<br />

ufro xelovnuradaa Seqmnili.<br />

_ anu IRI-i xelisuflebis<br />

dakveTas asrulebs?<br />

_ cota xnis win NDI-sac<br />

swored am formulirebiT hqonda<br />

kiTxvebi Sedgenili da monacemebic,<br />

TiTqmis, IRI-is kvlevis<br />

Sedegebis analogia. me, piradad,<br />

studentma am formulirebiT<br />

Sedgenili kiTxvari rom<br />

momitanos, ukan davubruneb.<br />

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />

internetSi<br />

www.saertogazeti.ge<br />

SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />

_ ras uwunebT<br />

konkretulad IRI-is<br />

kiTxvars?<br />

_ kiTxva gamiznulad<br />

isea dasmuli,<br />

rom SedegSi miviRoT<br />

giorgi TargamaZe da<br />

ara ivaniSvili. anu<br />

dasmuli SekiTxva<br />

provocirebas uke-<br />

Tebs pasuxs, ise, rom<br />

kiTxvari Segnebulad<br />

gamiznulia konkretuli<br />

SedegisTvis.<br />

_ am SemTxvevaSi<br />

visze, an raze iyo Sedegi<br />

orientirebuli?<br />

_ am SemTxvevaSi<br />

giorgi TargamaZe sazogadoebaSi<br />

ufro ndobiT<br />

aRWurvilad unda<br />

gamoiyurebodes, vidre<br />

biZina ivaniSvili.<br />

_ Tu kvleviTi organizaciis<br />

Sedegebi realurad ar asaxavs<br />

im situacias, rac qveyana-<br />

Sia, maSin ra mizani aqvs<br />

kvlevis Catarebas da SesaZloa,<br />

Tu ara arsebulma Sedegebma<br />

sazogadoebaze gavlena<br />

moaxdinos?<br />

_ SeiZleba, garkveul nawilze<br />

moaxdinos, magram saer-<br />

Todac rom ar moaxdinos da<br />

Tu arCvenebze saarCevno Sedegebi<br />

kvlevis analogi iqneba, ma-<br />

Sin mmarTveli gundi am kvlevebs<br />

argumentad gamoiyenebs,<br />

rom arCvenebi gayalbebuli ar<br />

ramaz sayvareliZe:<br />

ar mesmis ratom dasWirda<br />

amerikis an erT, an meore kvleviT<br />

organizacias gamxdariyo<br />

saakaSvilis sarCevno Stabis<br />

erT-erTi ganyofileba?<br />

aris. ase, rom mzaddeba arCevnebis<br />

gayalbebis foni.<br />

_ SesaZloa, vivaraudoT,<br />

rom IRI-is kvlevis Sedegebi<br />

,,nacmoZraobis” prestiJisTvis<br />

Catarda?<br />

_ swored es ar mesmis, ratom<br />

dasWirda amerikis an erT<br />

(IRI), an meore organizacias<br />

(NDI) gamxdariyo saxelisuflebo<br />

Stabis erT-erTi ganyofileba.<br />

aSS-isTvis es faqtori<br />

damamcirebelia.<br />

_ saubroben imaze, rom aSSi<br />

ar miiRebs saqarTveloSi gayalbebul<br />

arCevnebs. igive IRI,<br />

NDI xom amerikuli organizaciebi<br />

arian, maSin ras niSnavs<br />

es yvelaferi?<br />

_ ki, magram, viciT vis<br />

emorCilebian? isini ukve didi<br />

xania saqarTveloSi muSaoben da<br />

iqneb maT saqarTvelos xelisuflebasTan<br />

Tavi kargad igrZnes?<br />

saqarTvloSi NDI-i luis<br />

navaros xelmZRvanelobamdec<br />

arsebobda, Tumca aseT politikur<br />

WidiliSi monawileobas ar<br />

Rebulobda. analogiurad IRI-c<br />

CarTulia analogiur TamaSSi.<br />

amitom maTi moxibvla, an ,,nacionalurma”<br />

moZraobam moaxerxa,<br />

an TavianTi qveynis politika<br />

Tavad am organizaciebs ar ainteresebT.<br />

_ ra unda gakeTdes saimisod,<br />

rom kvlevbisadmi amdeni<br />

kiTxvis niSnebi ar daisvas?<br />

_ iago kaWkaWiSvilma SesTavaza,<br />

rom maT erTmaneTis kvlevebi<br />

gadaemowmebinaT, Tumca arc<br />

IRI-m da arc NDI-m mis iniciativas<br />

mxari ar dauWira, rac<br />

kidev erTxel miuTiTebs imaze,<br />

rom amerikuli organizaciebi<br />

WeSmaritebiT dainteresebuli<br />

ar arian.<br />

_ erTia, roca kvlevis Seegebs<br />

ar endobiT, magram is<br />

cifrebi rac IRI-m ,,qarTul<br />

ocnebasTan” dakavSirebiT dado,<br />

xom ar aris ganpirobebuli ivaniSvilisa<br />

da misi garemocvis<br />

pasiurobiT?<br />

_ rac ufro aqtiuri iqneba<br />

esa Tu is mxare, miT ufro nakleb<br />

damajerebeli iqneba misi<br />

dabali reitingi. Tumca me arc<br />

imas gamovricxav, rom ivaniSvilis<br />

mxares ufro dabali reitingi<br />

arsebobdes, vidre kvlevaSia<br />

asaxuli, radgan maTi<br />

mxridan aqtiuroba ar aris.<br />

Tumca am SemTxvevaSi, ufro mawuxebs<br />

sociologiis bedi, vidre<br />

ivaniSvilis.<br />

_ ras gulisxmobT?<br />

_ samwuxarod, sociologiis<br />

diskreditacia xdeba. albaT,<br />

sociologia simarTles roca<br />

ityvis, arc maSin daujereben.<br />

_ Tumca xelisufleba yovelTvis<br />

axerxebs mZime situaciidan<br />

gamosvlas da viTarebis<br />

saTavisod Semobrunebas?<br />

_ xelisufleba Zalian seriozuli<br />

mebrZolia da brwyinvaled<br />

icis politikuri brZolis<br />

meTodebi da Sesabamisad<br />

karg Sedegebsac iRebs.<br />

_ aseTi Zlieri konkurentis<br />

pirobebSi ramdenad sworad<br />

moqmedebs ivaniSvili, roca<br />

aseT pasiurobas iCens?<br />

_ SesaZloa, arsebobdes ase-<br />

Ti strategia, rom piks miaRwion<br />

maSin, roca qveyanaSi winasaarCveno<br />

bumi iqneba.<br />

agvistos bolo da seqtemberi<br />

iqneba piki am arCevnebisTvis<br />

da Tqma imisa, rom am strategias<br />

arsebobis ufleba ar<br />

aqvs, marTebuli ar iqneba.<br />

_ 27 maiss ,,qarTuli ocneba”<br />

winasaarCevno kampaniis farglebSi<br />

masStabur aqcias gegmavs.<br />

am masStabis aqcia, Tundac<br />

moedanze, ramdenad iqneba Sedegze<br />

orientirebuli?<br />

_ gaaCnia, stadionze ras<br />

apireben `ocnebis~ warmomadgenlebi.<br />

albaT, gaxsovT, ramdenime<br />

wlis win, roca stadionze<br />

opoziciis iniciativiT xalxi<br />

Seikriba, finalma ra dramatuli<br />

saxe miiRo da faqtobrivad,<br />

gadaswona Sekrebis yvela plusi.<br />

amitom gaaCnia, rogoraa gawerili<br />

,,qarTuli ocnebis” gegmebi<br />

da ra aqvT mofiqrebuli<br />

saimisod, rogor gauSvan stadionze<br />

misuli aTasobiT adamiani,<br />

rac advili saqme namdvilad<br />

araa. amitom ar vici, rogori<br />

scenari muSavdeba da sanam<br />

ar vnaxav, komentaris gake-<br />

Teba gamiWirdeba.<br />

miranda nabaxteveli<br />

jon basi: yvelgan unda iyos daculi saerTaSorisod<br />

aRiarebuli uflebebi ise,<br />

rogorc es dasavleTSia<br />

saqarTveloSi aSS-is elCis jon basis gancxadebiT, mniSvnelovania<br />

rogorc mSvidobis miRweva, aseve muSaoba misi<br />

SenarCunebisTvis da iseTi qveynebis daxmareba, visac am<br />

TvalsazrisiT problemebi aqvs.<br />

amis Sesaxeb jon basma dRes vakis parkSi ucnobi jariskacis<br />

saflavis yvavilebiT Semkobis Semdeg ganacxada.<br />

rogorc basma aRniSna, yvelgan unda iyos daculi saer-<br />

TaSorisod aRiarebuli uflebebi ise, rogorc es dasavleT-<br />

Sia.<br />

`medianiusi~

6 saerTo gazeTi #22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

marTalia, amerikis<br />

elCi jon basi da<br />

misi Semcvlelic,<br />

agreTve aSS-s zogierTi<br />

maRalCinosanic<br />

xSirad gamoTqvamen<br />

SeSfoTebas saqarTveloSi<br />

Seqmnili<br />

antidemokratiuli<br />

garemos da am<br />

garemos sulisCamdgmelis<br />

mixeil saakaSvilis<br />

misamar-<br />

TiT, magram am SeSfoTeba-aRSfoTebas<br />

jerjerobiT<br />

realuri Sedegebi<br />

ar mohyolia _ saakaSvili<br />

isev saakaSvilobs,<br />

mogelaZe<br />

mogelaZeobs, Jurnalistebs<br />

Zveleburad<br />

scemen, biZina<br />

ivaniSvilis mxardamWerebs<br />

aviwroeben,<br />

TviTon batoni<br />

biZinasTvis ki dRemde<br />

aravis daubrunebia<br />

saqarTvelos<br />

moqalaqeoba da,<br />

rogorc Cans, axlo<br />

momavalSi amis gake-<br />

Tebas arc aravin<br />

apirebs.<br />

Tu imasac gavixsenebT,<br />

rom barak obamasTan vizitis<br />

dros aSS-s prezidentma<br />

araorazrovnad mianiSna mixeil<br />

saakaSvils, rom aucilebelia<br />

xelisufleba ar-<br />

Cevnebis gziT oficialurad<br />

gadabardes, rom saakaSvilmac<br />

da saqarTvelomac SeinarCunos<br />

regionSi demokratiis<br />

flagmanis imiji, TiTqos<br />

yvelaferi naTeli da<br />

cxadia _ aSS arCevnebis<br />

gziT xelisuflebis cvlilebisken<br />

miuTiTebs saakaSvils<br />

da samarTliani, Tavisufali,<br />

obieqturi arCevnebis<br />

Catarebisken mouwodebs,<br />

Tumca is realuri situacia,<br />

rac dRes saqarTvelo-<br />

Si sufevs, absoluturad<br />

sawinaaRmdegos amtkicebs _<br />

saakaSvili arc samarTliani<br />

arCevnebis Catarebas apirebs<br />

da arc Zalauflebis daTmobaze<br />

fiqrobs.<br />

Tu mis bolodroindel<br />

gancxadebebs<br />

guldasmiT mivayuradebT,<br />

saakaSvili<br />

ar malavs, rom premier-ministrobisTvis<br />

emzadeba da pirdapir<br />

iTxovs saqarTvelos<br />

mosaxleobisgan,<br />

rom 3-4<br />

weli xelisufleba-<br />

Si darCenis saSualeba<br />

mieces (gaixseneT,<br />

wyaltuboSi gakeTebuli<br />

gancxadeba...)<br />

mTeli misi bolodroindeli<br />

piari _ obieqtebis<br />

gaxsna, lentebis gaWra, lazikis<br />

mSenebloba da a.S. mimarTulia<br />

erTi miznisken _<br />

aCvenos saqarTvelos mosaxleobas,<br />

rom is premier-ministrobisTvis<br />

aris dabadebuli,<br />

rom is uniWieresi<br />

meurne, brwyinvale menejeri<br />

da organizatoria, romelsac<br />

SeuZlia saqarTvelo,<br />

qarTuli ekonomika<br />

ramdenime weliwadSi aayvavos.<br />

mkiTxvels isic movagonoT,<br />

ra umwvavesi reaqcia<br />

mohyva saakaSvilis da misi<br />

garemocvis mxridan im<br />

ramdenime kritikul SeniSvnas<br />

da komentars, romelic<br />

aSS-s elCma basma<br />

gaakeTa.<br />

_ amerika Cveni strategiuli<br />

partnioria, magram<br />

aravis daaviwydes, rom saqarTvelo<br />

suverenuli da<br />

damoukidebeli saxelmwifoa<br />

da Cvens Sinaur saqmeebSi<br />

Carevis uflebas aravis mivcemTo<br />

_ boboqrobda boboxiZe,<br />

romelic xan saakaSvilis<br />

gulis xvaSiads axmovanebs,<br />

xan im adamianebs etaneba<br />

sacemrad, romelTa galaxva<br />

icis, rom saakaSvils<br />

eameba.<br />

asea Tu isea, saakaSvilis<br />

da misi gundis reaqcia aSSs<br />

oficialuri elCis misamarTiT<br />

ukompromiso da gamomwvevi<br />

xasiaTis iyo, rac<br />

kidev erTi dasturia imisa,<br />

rom saakaSvili da nac.moZraoba<br />

sulac ar apireben<br />

oqtombris arCevnebSi TviTnebobisa<br />

da gayalbebis mravalgzis<br />

nacad meTodebze<br />

uaris Tqmas da Zalauflebis<br />

daTmobas.<br />

* * *<br />

biZina ivaniSvilis<br />

da misi koaliciis<br />

mier mravaljer,<br />

kategoriuli<br />

toniT gacxadebul<br />

principul mosazrebas,<br />

rom xelisuflebis<br />

Secvlis er-<br />

TaderT saSualebad<br />

arCevnebi miaCniaT,<br />

analitikosebi<br />

da eqspertebi imiT<br />

xsnian, rom ivaniSvili<br />

da koalicia angariSs<br />

uweven aSS-s<br />

administracias da<br />

cdiloben. misi favoriti<br />

saakaSvili,<br />

romelzec amerikeli<br />

xalxis uzarmazari<br />

Tanxebi daixarja,<br />

mSvidobianad,<br />

naklebi xmauriT<br />

da naklebi skandaliT<br />

CamoaSoron xelisuflebas,<br />

riT-<br />

amerikis mxardaWerac kargia da<br />

evrokavSirisac, magram, rogorc<br />

qarTvel xalxs, ise biZina ivaniSvils,<br />

erTmaneTis iqiT gza ar aqvT!..<br />

ac, ase vTqvaT, saxe<br />

SeunarCunon aSS-s<br />

romelsac saakaSvilTan<br />

mimarTeba-<br />

Si, roca mas demokratiis<br />

Suqurad gvisaxavda,<br />

an raRac<br />

SeeSala, an Segnebulad,<br />

sakuTari saxelmwifo<br />

interesebidan<br />

gamomdinare,<br />

wlebis ganmavloba-<br />

Si mfarvelobda aSkarad<br />

diqtatorul-avtokratiuli<br />

Tvisebebisken midrekil,<br />

fsiqiurad<br />

gauwonasworebel<br />

pirovnebas, romelmac<br />

ara marto saqarTvelos,<br />

aramed

#22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi<br />

7<br />

amerikis interesebsac<br />

seriozuli dartyma<br />

miayena Tavisi<br />

ukontrolo da<br />

araadeqvaturi qmedebebiT.<br />

biZina ivaniSvils, Tavisi<br />

uzarmazari avtoritetiT,<br />

didi finansuri SesaZleblobebiT,<br />

Tavisuflad SeeZlo<br />

politikaSi mosvlis<br />

pirvelsave dReebSi mTeli<br />

saqarTvelo gamoeyvana gareT<br />

da saakaSvilis reJimi drois<br />

mcire monakveTSi daem-<br />

Tavrebina, magram man es ar<br />

gaakeTa, rac msoflios wamyvani<br />

demokratiuli saxelmwifoebis<br />

mxridin saTanadod<br />

iqna dafasebulic da Sefasebulic.<br />

swored amis dasturi<br />

gaxldaT 18<br />

qveynis elCis stumroba<br />

mis rezidenciaSi,<br />

rac uprecedento<br />

SemTxvevad SeiZleba<br />

CaiTvalos _<br />

kerZo pirs, romelmac<br />

jerjerobiT<br />

mxolod politika-<br />

Si mosvlis gancxadeba<br />

gaakeTa, 18 qveynis<br />

elCi saxlSi stumrobdes,<br />

iSviaTi<br />

ambavia.<br />

pirvel xanebSi TiTqos<br />

yvelaferi rigze iyo, magram<br />

dro gadioda da am 18 saxelmwifos<br />

da maT Soris<br />

aSS-s oficialurad gamJRavnebul<br />

mxardaWeras saTanado<br />

Sedegi ar mosdevda _ biZina<br />

ivaniSvilisTvis moqalaqeobis<br />

dabrunebis sakiTxi,<br />

miuxedavad Tavad ivaniSvilis<br />

da misi garemocvis optimisturi<br />

ganwyobisa, ver<br />

gadawyda. gagrZelda kontrolis<br />

palatis represiebi<br />

ivaniSvilis winaaRmdeg, kidev<br />

ufro gaZlierda<br />

ivaniSvilis mxardamWerTa<br />

devna da Seviwroeba, yvelaferi<br />

`es ki `endiais~ da<br />

`airais~ kvlevebma `daagvirgvina~,<br />

sadac erT-erTi bolo<br />

monacemiT, biZina ivaniSvils<br />

giorgi TargamaZem gauswro<br />

_ saqarTvelos mosaxleobis<br />

28 procenti,<br />

rogorc opozicioners,<br />

TargamaZes endoba, ivaniSvils<br />

ki mxolod 21 procenti<br />

wyalobs Turme...<br />

mTelma saqarTvelom icis<br />

da `rairaim~ rogor ar<br />

icis, rom TargamaZe iseTive<br />

opozicioneria, rogorc `padoSaa~<br />

dalai lama, magram<br />

es xels ar uSlis am seriozul<br />

organizacias kidev<br />

erTxel Seayaros nacari saqarTvelos<br />

mosaxleobas isedac<br />

nacriT savse TvalebSi.<br />

* * *<br />

Zneli dasajerebelia,<br />

rom miSa mar-<br />

Tlac iseTi magaria,<br />

rom aSS-sac ar<br />

epueba da kvlav Tavis<br />

Wkuaze apirebs<br />

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />

internetSi<br />

www.saertogazeti.ge<br />

SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />

qveynis marTvasac<br />

da arCevnebis Catarebas.<br />

Zneli dasajerebelia,<br />

rom aSS-s<br />

iseTi kvleviTi organizaciebi,<br />

rogoric<br />

`endiai~ da `airai~<br />

SemTxveviT debdnen<br />

aseT gamaognebel<br />

Sedegebs da Savis<br />

TeTrad warmo-<br />

Cenis tradicias SemTxveviT<br />

agrZelebdnen.<br />

kidev ufro Zneli dasajerebelia,<br />

rom aSS ver xedavdes<br />

da ver amCnevdes, Tu<br />

rogor mkacrdeba isedac mkacri<br />

policiuri reJimi saqarTveloSi<br />

da rogor vSordebiT<br />

demokratiul faseulobebsa<br />

da Rirebulebebs.<br />

yovelive amis Semdeg, ratom<br />

iqmneba iseTi STabeWdileba,<br />

rom aSS mainc ver<br />

eleva Tavis `rCeuls~ da<br />

kvlav jiutad cdilobs saakaSvilisa<br />

da misi gundis<br />

xelisuflebaSi datovebas?<br />

swored amas xom ar emsaxureba<br />

`endiaisa~ da `airais~<br />

ferad-feradi zRaprebis<br />

tiraJireba da sasurvelis<br />

sinamdviled warmoCenis mcdeloba?<br />

* * *<br />

arsebobs safuZvliani eWvi,<br />

rom mavanni da mavanni<br />

dabejiTebiT arwmuneben bi-<br />

Zina ivaniSvils, rom mas didi<br />

mxardaWera aqvs aSS-s<br />

oficialuri wreebis warmomadgenlebisgan<br />

da es mxardaWera<br />

aucileblad dadebi-<br />

Tad aisaxeba oqtombris saparlamento<br />

arCevnebis Sedegebzec.<br />

Sors varT im azrisgan,<br />

rom es raRac boroti ganzraxviT<br />

keTdeba da am adamianebs<br />

Segnebulad SehyavT<br />

SecdomaSi biZina ivaniSvili<br />

da qarTveli xalxi.<br />

mizezi martivze martivia<br />

_ am adamianebs surT xazi<br />

gausvan TavianT gansakuTrebul<br />

misias da rols da saqme<br />

ise warmoaCinon, TiTqos<br />

swored isini arian gamarjvebis<br />

erTaderTi garantorebi,<br />

Tumca `sinamdvileSi~ ma-<br />

Ti zedmeti aqtiuroba da<br />

mudmivad wina planze yofna<br />

ivaniSvilis reitings sasikeTod<br />

ar argia _ saqme is<br />

aris, rom qarTveli xalxis<br />

did nawils ar uyvars amerikelebi,<br />

rac TviTon amerikelebis<br />

farisevluri politikis<br />

da am politikasTan<br />

asocirebuli saakaSvilis<br />

didi damsaxurebaa.<br />

Tumca, modiT, am sakiTxis<br />

farTo ganxilvisgan<br />

amjerad Tavi SevikavoT da<br />

kvlav im kiTxvas davubrundeT<br />

_ uWeren Tu ara amerikelebi<br />

mxars ivaniSvils da<br />

ramdenad seriozulia es<br />

mxardaWera?<br />

globalisturi ideologiis<br />

mTavari principebis<br />

gaTvaliswinebiT, romlis<br />

mTavari medroSe aSS gaxlavT,<br />

amerikelebs ar SeiZleba<br />

gulwrfelad moswondeT<br />

da uyvardeT biZina ivaniSvili,<br />

kaci, romelic<br />

mTeli Tavisi Segnebuli<br />

cxovrebiT, Tavisi filosofiiT,<br />

Tavisi msoflmxedvelobrivi<br />

koncefciiT qar-<br />

Tuli saxelmwifos aRorZinebasa<br />

da mis ganviTarebas<br />

emsaxureba.<br />

amerikelebs ar SeiZleba<br />

uyvardeT kaci, romelic<br />

ityvis, rom bavSvi dedam unda<br />

aRzardos, saidanac erTi<br />

nabijia daskvnamde, rom adamiani<br />

samSoblom unda aRzardos,<br />

rom adamiani, pirvelyovlisa,<br />

sakuTar sam-<br />

Soblos unda emsaxuros da<br />

amiT emsaxuros mTel kacobriobas.<br />

ivaniSvili ara, magram amerikelebs,<br />

gnebavT, rusebs,<br />

gnebavT, evropelebs SeiZleba<br />

uyvardeT da moswondeT<br />

giorgi TargamaZe an `pado-<br />

Sa~ an ako minaSvili, an sulac<br />

boco wiklauri...<br />

rogorc Cans, saqarTvelom<br />

erTxel<br />

da samudamod unda<br />

gaakeTos erTi um-<br />

Tavresi daskvna _<br />

naklebi yuradReba<br />

unda miaqcos imas,<br />

vis uWers mxars romelime<br />

ucxo saxelmwifo<br />

da arCevani<br />

amis mixedviT ki<br />

ara, im niSniT unda<br />

gaakeTos, vis uZgers<br />

guli saqarTvelosTvis<br />

da vin<br />

aris mzad TavganwirvisTvis.<br />

bevrjer iTqva da kidev<br />

erTxel gavimeorebTo:<br />

am arCevnebSi<br />

biZina ivaniSvilis<br />

damarcxeba mTeli<br />

saqarTvelos da<br />

TiTeuli qarTvelis<br />

damarcxebas ni-<br />

Snavs. sxvaTaSoris,<br />

im qarTvelis damarcxebasac<br />

niSnavs,<br />

romelsac hgonia,<br />

rom ivaniSvilze gamarjvebiT<br />

qveyanasac<br />

da sakuTar Tavsac<br />

did bednierebas<br />

moutans.<br />

giorgi<br />

gamezardaSvili

8 saerTo gazeTi #22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

`saerTo gazeTis~ dRevandeli<br />

stumari qristian-demokratiuli<br />

partiis wevri, sakrebulos<br />

deputati, istorikosi<br />

jaba samuSiaa...<br />

_ batono jaba, Tqven Cemi<br />

respodenti pirvelad brZandebiT<br />

da imedi maqvs im Temebze,<br />

romelic dRes qarTul sinamdvileSi<br />

gansakuTrebiT aqtualuria,<br />

gulaxdilad mesaubrebiT...<br />

_ ki, batono, ar aris<br />

problema...<br />

_ Tqveni azriT, bolo er-<br />

Ti kviris ganmavlobaSi saxelisuflebo<br />

arxebi Sem-<br />

TxveviT amboben aseT<br />

frazas `saqarTvelos meore<br />

dedaqalaqi~ da kidev,<br />

saakaSvili ase ratom<br />

Cqarobs quTaisi meore<br />

politikur centrad<br />

warmoaCinos?<br />

_ Cemi azriT, es aris<br />

winasaarCevno kampaniis<br />

farglebSi da xelisufleba<br />

cdilobs amgvari<br />

manipulirebiT quTaisel-<br />

Ta gulis mogebas, magram<br />

saxelmwifoebrivi azrovneba<br />

arCevnebidan-arCevnebamde<br />

xom ar unda ganisazRvrebodes?<br />

dameTanxmeT,<br />

rom saxelmwifoebrivi<br />

azrovneba ufro metia,<br />

vidre arCevnebi da<br />

rodesac Cven vsaubrobT or<br />

dedaqalaqze, or politikur<br />

centrze da a.S. amis analizi<br />

ufro gvWirdeba da ara is, Tu<br />

ra sWirdeba mixeil saakaSvils<br />

arCevnebisTvis! piradad me, am<br />

SemTxvevaSi es naklebad mainteresebs,<br />

magram Cven, qristian-demokratebi<br />

vTvliT, rom<br />

amdagvari TemebiT manipulireba<br />

araTu Secdomaa, aramed Zalian<br />

saxifaToc! ufro metic, qveynis<br />

SigniT ori politikuri<br />

polusis gaCena ar SeiZleba da<br />

miTumetes ar SeiZleba am Temebis<br />

gamudmebuli manipulireba!<br />

rodesac Cven vsaubrobT meore<br />

dedaqalaqis gaCenaze, aq<br />

unda amovideT pirveli biujetiT,<br />

meore saxelmwifo interesidan<br />

da mesame istoriuli<br />

realobidan da istoriuli<br />

faqtoriT! ai, es samive faqtori<br />

miuTiTebs imas, rom aseTi<br />

gadawyvetilebebi sakmaod sensitiuria,<br />

imitom, rom rodesac<br />

Cven vlaparakobT Tbilisze,<br />

rogorc saqarTvelos dedaqalaqis<br />

faqtorze, unda vicodeT,<br />

rom am SemTxvevaSi da<br />

adrec, Tbilisi mxolod saqar-<br />

Tvelos dedaqalaqi ki ar gaxlavT,<br />

aramed kavkasiaSi lideri<br />

qalaqis funqcia hqonda<br />

odiTganve da es nurc azerbaijanelebs<br />

ewyinebaT da nurc<br />

somxebs! istoria amas gviCvenebs<br />

Semdegnairad, rodesac<br />

ruseTi kavkasiaSi mkvidrdeboda<br />

da iqmneboda erTgvari kavkasiuri<br />

masStabis samefisnacvlo,<br />

mefisnacvali ijda TbilisSi!<br />

Semdgom Seiqmna da ramdenime<br />

Tve iarseba, amierkavkasiis<br />

federaciulma respublikam<br />

da misi centric iyo Tbilisi!<br />

rodesac Seiqmna amierkavkasiis<br />

seimi, anu kavkasiis<br />

parlamenti, misi centric iyo<br />

Tbilisi, anu me amiT imis xazgasma<br />

minda, rom Tbiliss<br />

odiTganve hqonda istoriuli<br />

mniSvneloba kavkasiis masStabiT!<br />

axla, rac Seexeba mTeli,<br />

saqarTvelos masStabiT, Tbilisis,<br />

rogorc dedaqalaqis<br />

mniSvnelobas...<br />

qalbatono irina, vidre am<br />

Temas mivubrundebi, minda aqve<br />

davamato, rom quTaisis mimarT<br />

me Cemi gansakuTrebuli pativiscema<br />

da siyvaruli maqvs. es<br />

aris Cemi piradi, naTesauri<br />

urTierTobebidan dawyebuli,<br />

udavoa, rom quTaisi sufTa<br />

qarTuli qalaqia, Tumca saqar-<br />

TveloSi mosaxleobis 30-35<br />

procenti araqarTveli mosaxlea,<br />

isini, ZiriTadad, aRmosavleT<br />

saqarTveloSi arian dasaxlebuli<br />

kompaqturad da er-<br />

TaderTi didi qalaqi, romel<br />

qalaqSic Cans, es interkulturuli<br />

garemo aris mxolod<br />

Tbilisi. anu, es mravalerovnuli<br />

tradicia Tbiliss yovelTvis<br />

hqonda da es iyo erTgvari<br />

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />

internetSi<br />

www.saertogazeti.ge<br />

SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />

ori politikuri centris<br />

Camoyalibebam SeiZleba<br />

saqarTvelo daSlamde miiyvanos...<br />

mikrosaqarTvelo Tbilisis<br />

masStabiT _ es erTi mxare! meore<br />

es aris Tbilisis mdebareoba,<br />

romlis mixedviTac igi ar<br />

ekuTvnis arcerT konkretul<br />

kuTxes da regions! SeiZleba<br />

vinmem Tqvas, rom Tbilisi<br />

ekuTvnis Sida qarTls, magram<br />

mtkvris es zoli, romelic<br />

iwyeba mcxeTasTan da mTavrdeba<br />

daaxloebiT rusTavis mimarTulebiT,<br />

erTi konkretuli kuTxis<br />

kuTvnileba arasodes ar<br />

yofila da gardamavali zonaa,<br />

anu Tbilisi Tavisi mdebareobiT<br />

erTaderTi qalaqia mTlianad<br />

saqarTveloSi, romelic<br />

esazRvreba TiTqmis yvela did<br />

qarTul kuTxes. es aris, samxreT<br />

saqarTvelo qvemo qarTli,<br />

Sida qarTli, kaxeTis zona, saqarTvelos<br />

mTianeTi da a.S. anu,<br />

am SemTxvevaSic geografiuladac<br />

Tbiliss gamorCeuli<br />

mdebareoba da<br />

funqcia aqvs, gamigeT? ra<br />

Tqma unda ganuzomlad<br />

didi funqcia aqvs quTaiss<br />

qarTul sinamdvile-<br />

Si, magram daakvirdiTm ra<br />

gaakeTa daviT aRmaSenebelma,<br />

roca Tbilisi aiRo?<br />

man taxti gadmoitana TbilisSi,<br />

radgan xedavda am<br />

qalaqis strategiul daniSnulebas<br />

ara mxolod<br />

saqarTvelosTvis, aramed<br />

regionis TvalsazrisiTac<br />

da es yvelaferi qarTuli<br />

saxelmwifos interesebidan<br />

iyo gamomdinare!<br />

_ jaba, Zalian sainteresoa<br />

finansuri TvalsazrisiT<br />

ramdenad gamarTlebulia parlamentis<br />

quTaisSi gadatana?<br />

an Tu aris wlevandeli biujetidan<br />

gamoyofili Tanxebi am<br />

midi-modisTvis?<br />

_ saqmec imaSia, rom es Tanxebi<br />

biujetSi gaTvaliswinebuli<br />

ar aris!! parlamentis quTaisSi<br />

gadatana da TbilisSi<br />

mTavrobis datoveba, xom yvelam<br />

viciT, rom gamoiwvevs damatebiT<br />

xarjebs? Cveni gaangariSebiT,<br />

mTeli am infrastruqturis<br />

gadatana daaxloebiT 140<br />

milionamde jdeba da Tu vinicobaa,<br />

mTavrobis infrastruqturis<br />

quTaisSi ar gadaitanen,<br />

xarjebi ufro gaizrdeba, radgan<br />

parlamenti da mTavroba<br />

yvelaze ufro harmoniulad<br />

Tanaarseboben erTmaneTTan da<br />

erTmaneTTan mivlinebebis re-<br />

JimSi urTierToba, xom warmogidgeniaT,<br />

ra Tanxebze ava?<br />

_ ori politikuri centris<br />

arsebobs qveynisaTvis SesaZloa<br />

damRupveli gamodges! Zalian<br />

mdidar qveynebs evropaSi Tuki<br />

meore didi qalaqis ekonomikurad<br />

wamoweva undaT, parlamenti<br />

ki ar gadaaqvT iq?<br />

_ msoflioSi, TiTze CamosaTvlelia<br />

is qveynebi, sadac<br />

dedaqalaqis funqcia aqvs or<br />

qalaqs, magaliTad, amerikaSi<br />

aseTia vaSingtoni da niu-iorki,<br />

niderlandebSi amsterdami<br />

da haaga, magram saqarTvelos<br />

SemTxvevaSi ori politikuri<br />

centris gamoCenam istoriulad<br />

Zalian cudi Sedegebi moitana<br />

da qveyana daSlamde miiyvana!<br />

anu amiT me imis xazgasma<br />

minda, rom politikuri<br />

centrebis ase gadanawileba<br />

aris danaSauli da ar SeiZleba!<br />

SeiZleba quTaisi ekonomikurad<br />

daawinauro, gacilebiT<br />

meti investicia gauSva am qalaqSi<br />

da es TavisTavad Zalian<br />

kargi iqneba, magram quTaiss,<br />

meore politikuri centris<br />

politikuri elferi ar<br />

unda SesZinon! ori Tanabari<br />

rangis politikuri centris<br />

arseboba, vimeoreb Zalian cudia,<br />

magram Tuki xelisuflebas<br />

eyofa gambedaoba, unda<br />

Tqvas, rom Tbilisi amdagvari<br />

midgomebiT dakargavs Tavis<br />

dedaqalaqobas!<br />

_ jaba, ase haiharad, viRacis<br />

neba-survilebiT unda xdebodes<br />

dedaqalaqebis gadatanagadmotanis<br />

sakiTxebi? sazogadoeba<br />

ar unda monawileobdes<br />

am sakiTxebis gadawyvetaSi?<br />

_ai, swored eg aris qristian-demokratebis<br />

pozicia am<br />

sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT. pirdapir<br />

geubnebiT, araTu prezidentis,<br />

aramed arc erTi politikuri<br />

partiis gadasawyveti ar<br />

aris dedaqalaqebis ase gadatana-gadmotanis<br />

sakiTxi. es unda<br />

gadawyvitos sazogadoebam, saqarTvelos<br />

yvela kuTxeSi<br />

mcxovrebma adamianebma, radgan<br />

dedaqalaqi ara mxolod quTa-<br />

Turebis anda Tbiliselebis<br />

aris, aramed sruliad saqarTvelosia<br />

da maT aucileblad<br />

unda hkiTxon, sad moiazreben<br />

isini qveynis politikur centrs,<br />

gamigeT?<br />

_ e.i. wminda sareferendumo<br />

Temaa da vin misca ufleba<br />

nac. moZraobas, Tundac Cems magivrad<br />

gadawyvitos Tbilisi<br />

iqneba dedaqalaqi, quTaisi, ba-<br />

Tumi Tu soxumi?<br />

_ ra Tqma unda,<br />

referendumiT unda gadawydes,<br />

amas rad unda laparaki?<br />

me, rogorc rigiTi moqalaqe,<br />

Cems pozicias davafiqsireb,<br />

sxva _ Tavisas, magram ase meyseulad,<br />

ase 150 kacis gadawyvetilebiT<br />

da ase erTi xelis<br />

dakvriT dedaqalaqebis gadatana-gadmotanebi<br />

ar SeiZleba! me<br />

xazgasmiT minda aRvniSno, rom<br />

TviT vaxtang gorgasalmac ki,<br />

roca man mcxeTidan TbilisSi<br />

gadmoitana dedaqalaqi, ver<br />

SesZlo, am reformis bolomde<br />

gatareba imitom, rom TiTqmis<br />

erTi saukune dasWirda am process.<br />

istoriuli wyaroebi<br />

gvamcnoben, rom `mcxeTa icleboda<br />

da Tbilisi Zlierdebodao~.<br />

_ arada mcxeTa da Tbilisi<br />

erTmaneTTan erT mtkavelze<br />

arian, roca quTaisamde aqedan<br />

karga didi manZilia.<br />

_ rasakvirvelia... saqme ima-<br />

Sic aris, rom saxelmwifoebrivad<br />

ra perspeqtiva aqvs am<br />

nabijs? Tu aqedan amovdivarT,<br />

maSin Cven aucileblad unda<br />

gvqondes gaTvlili wlebis<br />

Semdeg ra procesebi SeiZleba<br />

ganviTardes? ar dagvaviwydes,<br />

rom perspeqtiviT Cven, Zalian<br />

savalalo da uaryofiTi Sedegebi<br />

SeiZleba miviRoT, radgan<br />

Tbilisi swored im regionebs<br />

esazRvreba, sadac kompaqturad<br />

araqarTveli mosaxleobaa dasaxlebuli!<br />

bunebrivia, es Temac<br />

gasaTvaliswinebelia, radgan<br />

Cveni moqalaqeebis am nawilmac<br />

unda igrZnos, rom qar-<br />

Tuli saxelmwifos nawili arian<br />

da ai, am politikis Ziri-<br />

Tadi gamtarebeli aRmosavleT<br />

saqarTveloSi, am SemTxvevaSic<br />

aris Tbilisi! metic, swored<br />

Tbilisma aCvena mTel sazogadoebas<br />

is Tu, rogor SeiZleba<br />

azerbaijaneli da somexi<br />

erovnebis adamianebis erT quCa-<br />

Si mSvidobianad Tanacxovreba<br />

maSin, roca am or ers Soris<br />

omi mimdinareobda...<br />

_ absoluturad geTanxmebiT,<br />

magram ramdenime dRis win<br />

jer kidev TbilisSi, parlamentis<br />

Senobis win swored am<br />

ori erovnebis axalgazrdebma<br />

moiyares Tavi da situaciis<br />

daZabvas araferi aklda...<br />

_ iciT, ra? politikuri<br />

elitis Tbilisidan gasvlis<br />

SemTxvevaSi, am Temebma SeiZleba<br />

Zalian<br />

cudad<br />

imuSaos!<br />

amitom<br />

vambob,<br />

rom saxelmwifo interesebidan<br />

gamomdinare unda iyos xelisuflebis<br />

mxridan gadadgmuli,<br />

nebismieri nabiji-Tqo, gamigeT?<br />

_ iciT ra mgonia? rom saakaSvils<br />

quTaisSi parlamentis<br />

gadatana viRac gare Zalam<br />

ukarnaxa da es kidev, rogorc<br />

yovelTvis, marionetiviT emor-<br />

Cileba.<br />

_ modiT, ase vTqvaT, ra?<br />

ras aZlevs quTaiss parlamentis<br />

am qalaqSi gadatana? maqsimum<br />

1500 kacs, romelic iq Cava<br />

da dasaqmdeba, anu 1500 samuSao<br />

adgils, xom? am 1500 kacidan<br />

naxevari, SeiZleba arc ki<br />

iyos quTaiseli, radgan xSir<br />

SemTxvevaSi ase xdeba! Cemi azriT,<br />

ufro upriani iqneboda,<br />

quTaiss dabruneboda is saganmanaTleblo<br />

funqcia, rad odiTganve<br />

hqonda da igi gveqcia sauniversiteto<br />

qalaqad! me geubnebiT<br />

_ arafris momcemi ar<br />

aris iq parlamentis gadatana,<br />

arafris momcemi ar aris!<br />

irine gogosaSvili

#22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

saerTo gazeTi<br />

9<br />

ar vici, sxvas ra gancdebi<br />

aqvs, magram qarTuli e.w. politikis<br />

Semxedvares, gamogitydebiT<br />

da didad optimisturi ganwyobebi<br />

ara maqvs, metic, Sinaganad<br />

raRac sagangaSos moaxloebas<br />

vgrZnob, ai, rusebi rom ityvian,<br />

`vnutrenaia trevogao~,<br />

iseTs da Cemda gasakvirad, aseTi<br />

gancdebi Turme ara mxolod me,<br />

aramed Cems samegobrosa da samezoblosac<br />

hqonia...<br />

yvela ubedurebasTan erTad<br />

guSinwin eqvsamde balis simZlavris<br />

miwisZvrac moxda da aRmosavleT<br />

saqarTveloSi es biZgebi<br />

Turme iseTi sixSiriT ganmeorda,<br />

kaxelebs hgonebiaT, ramdenime<br />

wuTSi saxlebi Tavze Camogveqcevao.<br />

ra magis pasuxia da 2003<br />

wlis Semdeg nac. moZraobam iseT<br />

politikur Tu socialur ryevebs<br />

migvaCvia, rom erTgvarad<br />

imunitetic ki gamogvimuSavda da<br />

wyaldidobebs, miwisZvrebs, qariSxlebsa<br />

Tu sxva stiqiur movlenebs,<br />

gulgrilad SevyurebT<br />

da viTomc araferi momxdara,<br />

gularxeinad ganvagrZobT cxovrebas.<br />

ai, safrangeTSi ki sul<br />

sxvagvarad xdeba da nikola sarkozisaTvis<br />

6 maisis Rame da 7<br />

maisis dila, marTlac stiqiuri<br />

movlenis tolfasi iyo, roca is<br />

memarcxene fransua olandma meore<br />

turSi damaarcxa da safrangeTi<br />

`sarkozis sarkomisgan~ gaanTavisufla!<br />

ra gvacinebs, magram<br />

sarkozis marcxisgan cxvirpiri<br />

CamostirodaT da safrangeTSi<br />

saqarTvelos elCi romaa<br />

kudava, imas xom dana pirs ar<br />

saakovma dagvibara...<br />

uxsnida, iseTi mgloviare iyo da<br />

ar aris es sasacilo?<br />

ruseTSi ki, 10 milionian<br />

moskovSi mxolod naxevari milioni<br />

rusi gamovida putinis<br />

winaaRmdeg protestis dasafiqsireblad,<br />

rac imaze mianiSnebs,<br />

rom SiSi oxeri ramea da rusebsac<br />

ise SehyriaT, rogorc Cven<br />

saakaSvilis Semxedvares! Cven ki<br />

arada, miSas Semxedvare, nikoloz<br />

saakaSvilis (miSas biologiuri<br />

mama) meuRle gardacvlila,<br />

anu miSas dedinacvali da<br />

rogorc TviTmxilvelma miambo _<br />

es Cveni `eris imedi~ samZimarze<br />

iseT `formaSi~ misula, sanaTesaos<br />

ukiTxavs: ra gWirs, ra feri<br />

gadevs, xom janmrTelad xaro?<br />

sxvaTaSoris, miSa saakaSvilis<br />

ucnaur, arabunebriv saxis<br />

ferze kaxelebmac miambes erTi<br />

istoria, ufro sworad ki winandalSi<br />

600 kacian pur-marilze,<br />

rogori momakvdavis mixra-moxvriT,<br />

TiTqmis molurjo-moSavo<br />

saxis feriT gamocxadebula saakaSvili.<br />

albaT, yvelas mogexsenebaT,<br />

rom WavWavaZianT sasaxle-<br />

Si didi sarestavracio samuSaoebi<br />

Sesrulda da amis aRsaniSnavad,<br />

mTeli kaxeTis `maRal Rubernatoroba~<br />

kulturis saministro<br />

da nac. moZraobis bulbul-iadonebic,<br />

winandalSi Sekrebilan<br />

`TiTo Wiqis asawevad~<br />

da ganaxlebuli Weris dasalocad.<br />

rogorc miambes, pur-marili<br />

600 kacze iyo gaSlili, Citis<br />

rZe ar aklda sufras, magram<br />

stumrebis nawils, ver mouxerxebia<br />

misvla da maqsimum 300<br />

kaci misjdomia `simwriT naSovn~<br />

xorags. saakaSvilic gamoCenila,<br />

magram vai, im gamoCenas _ Turme<br />

uazrod iRriWeboda, Tvalebi<br />

Tevzisas miugavda, aTas sisuleles<br />

roSavda da arigebda xan _<br />

marcxniv da xan _ marjvniv, magram<br />

saxeze Turme iseTi Semzaravi<br />

feri edo, TviT `nacebsac~<br />

aRuniSnavT Cumad _`vaime, naxe<br />

ra sWirso!~<br />

am Cems axlobels `prezidentisTvis~<br />

Tvali ver mouwyvetia<br />

da Turme daJinebiT, ase 5 wuTis<br />

ganmavlobaSi Sescqeroda, magram<br />

eg araferi miSas dacvas aseTi<br />

`miStereba~ Tvalidan ar gamoparvia<br />

da ise gamouxedavT am Cemi<br />

axloblisTvis, sawyals mada<br />

dakargvia da sul male<br />

sufridanac wamosula _<br />

raRac vera var kargado.<br />

am Cemma axlobelma TbilisSi<br />

CamosvlisTanave<br />

damireka da miTxra: `ici,<br />

adamianurad Semecoda eg<br />

ubeduri, vfiqrob, didxans<br />

veRar icocxlebs<br />

iseTi Sav-lurji saxis<br />

feri aqvs, Tanac xom ici,<br />

erTi nerwyvi rom gadascdes,<br />

wasulia magis saqme,<br />

xelSi Caakvdeba sakuTar<br />

dacvas da raRa dagimalo,<br />

rogorc adamiani, Zalian<br />

mecodebao~.<br />

_ ra sWirs Seni Sesacodi,<br />

Se marTla ubeduro,<br />

an nerwyvis gadacdoma<br />

ras niSnavs, ver migixvdi?<br />

_ SevekiTxe me.<br />

_ `gogo, kokainze<br />

vinc zis, egre emarTebaT,<br />

laparakis dros Zalian<br />

saSiSia dorblebis yra,<br />

radgan Tu gadascdaT, mere ve-<br />

Rar sunTqaven da ixrCobiano.<br />

ise, miSa jer egeTi mSvidi ar<br />

minaxavs, ganabuli Semovida da<br />

ganabuli ijda, marto suleliviT<br />

ikriWeboda, Torem yvirili,<br />

xmamaRali laparaki da egeTi ra-<br />

Racebi rom icis, im dRes msgavsi<br />

araferi yofila. etyoba icis<br />

kokainis veragi siurprizebi da<br />

amitom iyo mSvidado~.<br />

_ sxva ra xdeboda Telav-winandalSi,<br />

ar metyvi?<br />

_ ra moxda da vitia tomasianis<br />

mama daiRupa sawyali...<br />

_ eg romelia, vicnobdi?<br />

_ dutas babua qalo, ram gamogaStera?<br />

_ duta sxirtlaZis?<br />

_ ho, duta tomasianis,<br />

sxirtlaZe mere gaxda, hoda dutas<br />

mamis, vitias mama gardaicvala<br />

da dakrZalvaze 25-30 kacis<br />

garda aravin misula...<br />

_ sawyali vitiac xom mokvda,<br />

kargi biWi iyo is ubeduri,<br />

magram ra ubedurebaa dakrZalvaze<br />

miusvleloba gamoSterdiT<br />

Telavelebi?<br />

_ momismine kargad? jer er-<br />

Ti dutam Tavis Tavs daabralos<br />

aq rom aRar uyvarT da meorec,<br />

vinmes gaagebines kaci rom mokvda?<br />

dakrZalvaze 15-20 kaci Tvi-<br />

Ton tomasianebi iyvnen, erTiori<br />

dutas Tbiliseli Zmakaci<br />

da danarCenebi kide axlo samezoblo.<br />

ici, raSia saqme? dutam<br />

Telavis Teatri faqtiurad, daangria,<br />

msaxiobebi erTmaneTs wakida,<br />

bevri adamiani samsaxuridan<br />

gaaTavisufla da ratomRac unda<br />

scen pativi? magis dedis mSoblebi<br />

dodika sxirtlaZe da bebia<br />

Tina burbuTaSvili am TeatrSi<br />

cxovrobdnen da albaT, axla<br />

saflavSi trialeben, magaTi SviliSvili<br />

ase rom iqceva!<br />

ise, erTi, yurSi sayureRa<br />

aklda da egec gairWo am masxaram!<br />

Telavelebi emuqrebian Zalian,<br />

vnaxoT, SeiZleba erTi-orma<br />

aliyurma Wkuaze moiyvanos,<br />

ra ici? paata guliaSvilis mama,<br />

Teatris msaxiobi ra, dutas saqcielma<br />

ar mokla? zogadad ki<br />

Telavelebs rom `nacebi~ da misi<br />

`Spana~ gulze ar exatebaT,<br />

axali ambavi ar aris da aq rom<br />

egdo saakaSvili, moedanze marto<br />

avtobusebiT moyvanili xalxi<br />

idga.<br />

_ ivaniSvilis politikaSi<br />

gamoCenaze ras amboben?<br />

_ ra vici, aba? gulaxdilad<br />

rom giTxra, magis ofisTan me<br />

bevri xalxi arasodes daminaxavs<br />

da CvenSi rom<br />

darCes, arc ofisis SigniT<br />

moTavsebuli xalxisgan<br />

gvigvrZnia didi aqtiuroba<br />

da gamarjvebis<br />

survili! ra, vici, aba?<br />

Tu ginda, dawere eg ambebi,<br />

iqneb daucacxanos Tavisianebs<br />

da raRac aamoZraos,<br />

Torem nametani panaSvidia<br />

kaxeTSi da xom<br />

unda damTavrdes es ubedureba?<br />

maS ase, Zvirfaso mki-<br />

Txvelo!<br />

saakaSvilis erevnulma<br />

xelisuflebam, rogorc<br />

SeityveT ereklesdroindel<br />

Telavis Teatrs duta<br />

tomasianis (sxirtla-<br />

Zis) xeliT ganaCeni gamoutana<br />

da rodis daxuraven<br />

am udidesi kulturis<br />

centrs TelavSi da rodis<br />

gayidian am Senobas,<br />

aravin icis!<br />

ise ki, arc iqneba gasakviri,<br />

radgan mefe erekles samefo rezidenciis<br />

Senoba amas winaT iranelebs<br />

Caugdes xelSi (sparselebs)<br />

restavraciis motiviT da<br />

`nacebs~ Teatris Senoba daenanebaT?<br />

irine gogosaSvili<br />

fiqriukas fiqrebi _ damoukidebeli viqnebi!<br />

_ `axalma memarjveneebma~<br />

gadavwyviteT, amjerad<br />

damoukideblad vibrZoloT<br />

saparlamento arCevnebSi gamarjvebisTvis<br />

_ ganacxada<br />

fiqria CixraZem, romelic<br />

rac Tavi maxsovs sul ase-<br />

Tia _ axalgazrda, damajereblad<br />

mosaubre, cota romantiuli<br />

SeferilobiT<br />

metyvelebiT, romelic mamal<br />

tyuilsac ki ise miamiturad<br />

da sayvarlad ityvis,<br />

rom karga xans SeiZleba<br />

es tyuili simarTle gegonos.<br />

rac Tavi maxsovs, sul<br />

aseTia qalbatoni fiqria _<br />

sul axalgazrdaa, arada,<br />

xsovniT sakmaod didi xania<br />

rac maxsovs, jer kidev im<br />

droidan zviad gamsaxurdias CauSeskus<br />

rom eZaxda, mere SevardnaZes<br />

rom uCliqavda enas da<br />

edo babuo, rom wauRuRunebda<br />

xolme, iqidan.<br />

didi dro gavida im droidan,<br />

Tumca qalbatoni fiqria<br />

jer kidev imdenad axalgazrdaa,<br />

rom qalbatonis daZaxeba merideba.<br />

hoda, am marad axalgazrda<br />

fiqriukam gasul kviras<br />

morigi sensaciuri gancxadeba<br />

gaakeTa _ damoukideblad<br />

gavdivarT brZolis velze<br />

da metoqeebs sul bdRviri<br />

unda vadinoTo.<br />

fiqriukas am istoriul<br />

gancxadebamde cota xniT adre<br />

misma liderma, eqimma,<br />

biznesmenma, mewarmem da politikosma<br />

daviT gamyreli-<br />

Zem brZana: am saparlamento<br />

arCevnebSi Cemi partia parlamentSi<br />

Tu ar Seviyvane,<br />

dakavebuli Tanamdebobidan<br />

gadavdgebio.<br />

vaa, gadamreven es `axali<br />

memarjveneebi~ _ mxardamWerebi<br />

amaT ar hyavT, reitingi<br />

amaT ar aqvT, Tu davujerebT,<br />

fulic ar aqvT da arCevnebSi<br />

gamarjvebas da parlament-<br />

Si Sesvlas rogor apireben, kaco?!<br />

rogor apireben da biZina<br />

ivaniSvilis lanZRvis xarjze!<br />

axla mTavari koziri esaa _<br />

Tu biZina ivaniSvils sistematurad<br />

galanZRav, nacmoZraobam SeiZleba<br />

zurgze wamogikidos an<br />

jibeSi Cagisvas da parlamentSic<br />

Segaparos.<br />

swored amis imedi aqvT `axlebs~,<br />

sxva aranairi resursi<br />

amaT ar gaaCniaT, ise, rogorc<br />

ar gaaCniaT sxva `damoukidebel-<br />

~`opoziciur~ partiebs.<br />

SeiZleba biZina ivaniSvili,<br />

rogorc politikosi, raRaciT<br />

ar mogwondes, SeiZleba mxars ar<br />

uWerde, magram qarTvelma kacma,<br />

Tu is marTla qarTvelia da<br />

mTlad sindisgarecxili ar aris,<br />

rogor SeiZleba ar dainaxos<br />

is uamravi sikeTe, rac am adamians<br />

saqarTvelosTvis gaukeTebia?<br />

umadurobas da unamusobasac<br />

xom aqvs sazRvari?<br />

wina saparlamento arCevneb-<br />

Si, roca 25 deputati ar Sevida<br />

parlamentSi, amboben, rom<br />

am `SesaniSnavi ideis~ avtori<br />

daviT gamyreliZe iyoo, romelmac<br />

moralur-zneobrivi normebis<br />

erTgulebiT axsna am gadawyvetilebis<br />

miRebis aucilebloba.<br />

am dros, rogorc amboben,<br />

swored axlebis ofisSi miitanes<br />

is lurji CanTa, sadac `ar-<br />

SemsvlelebisTvis~ gankuTvnili<br />

3 milioni iyo `CapaWkuli~...<br />

sul bolos `axlebma~ `qdm~sTan<br />

erTad saarCevno garemos<br />

SecvlasTan dakavSirebuli gr-<br />

Zelvadiani debatebis finalSi<br />

kvlav `nacmoZraobas~ gaugores<br />

koWi da saTanado honoraric da<br />

amomrCevelTa siebis daTvlisa<br />

da gadamowmebis Tavkacobis pativic<br />

maT erT-erT liders mamuka<br />

kacitaZes ergo.<br />

esaa Tqveni damoukidebloba,<br />

qalbatono fiqria da ase apirebT<br />

Tqven amomrCevelTa gulis<br />

mogebas?<br />

nino vereli

10 saerTo gazeTi #22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

araerTxel dawerili kulturuli<br />

memkvidreobis Temas-<br />

Tan kidev erTxel Sexeba aw<br />

gardacvlili mecnierisa da<br />

sazogado moRvawis, guram SaraZis<br />

meuRlis werilma mibiZga,<br />

romelic qalbatonma svetlanam<br />

(batoni guramis meuRlem)<br />

Cemi mSoblebis saxlSi<br />

miitana. misive nebarTviT, gTavazobT<br />

werilis teqsts, saidanac<br />

kidev erTxel dasturdeba<br />

Cemica da bevris azric,<br />

rom guram SaraZis mkvleloba<br />

muzeumis saganZuris gatanas-<br />

Tan pirdapir kavSirSia da xelisufleba<br />

marTlac eweva<br />

qarTveli eris kulturuli<br />

memkvidreobis gayidvasa da ganiavebas.<br />

GmarTalia, guram Sara-<br />

Zis mimarT sazogadoebas araerTgvarovani<br />

damokidebuleba<br />

gaaCnda _ zogisTvis (specialurad<br />

Seqmnili imijiT) destruqciuli,<br />

marginaluri, zogisTvis<br />

erovnuli pirovneba,<br />

zogi uSiSroebasTan mis kav-<br />

Sirzec ki bedavda saubars. piradad<br />

me, mas, rogorc mecniers,<br />

qarTuli saqmisTvis mebr-<br />

Zol mecniersa da uSiSar pirovnebas<br />

vicnobdi da faqtia,<br />

rom guram SaraZe mokles sastikad<br />

da sxvebisTvis samagaliTod,<br />

radgan aravin aRar gabedos<br />

im sakiTxTan Sexeba, romelSic<br />

“cxviri qarTvelebma<br />

ar unda CavyoT”. anu marTlmadidebluri<br />

siwmindeebis Temas-<br />

Tan mimarTebaSi marTlmadideblobisa<br />

da qarTulierovnuli<br />

faseulobebis mteri ki farisevel<br />

mwignobarTa masonurmondealisturi<br />

struqturebi<br />

da “viTom demokratiaze” mosaubre<br />

politikosebi da viTom<br />

sazogado moRvaweebi rom arian,<br />

esec xom viciT. swored<br />

guram SaraZis saxels ukavSirdeba<br />

ilia WavWavaZisa da akaki<br />

wereTlis cxovrebaze gamoqveynebuli<br />

samecniero naSromebisa<br />

da muzeumis siwmindeebis<br />

gatanis Tema. mis odiozur da<br />

destruqciul pirovnebad Seracxva<br />

ki “im operidan” aris,<br />

romelic cnobil alen dalesis<br />

doqtrinas ekuTvnis: “saxelmwifos<br />

marTvaSi davamyarebT<br />

qaossa da areulobas,<br />

Cvens momxreebs SevuqmniT yvelanair<br />

yalb avtoritets, farulad,<br />

magram aqtiurad wavaxalisebT<br />

CinovnikTa siregvnes.<br />

patiosnebasa da wesierebas. ise<br />

gvaTaxsirebT, rom isini aravis<br />

dasWirdeba da gadmonaSTad iqceva.<br />

davnergavT Tavxedobas,<br />

matyuarobas, loTobasa da<br />

narkomanias, cxovelur SiSs<br />

erTmaneTis mimarT, nacionalizmsa<br />

da xalxTa Soris<br />

mrtobas. . . yvelaferi es ayvavdeba<br />

aSkarad, magram cotani<br />

Tu mixvdebian, ra xdeba, vinc<br />

mixvdeba, CavayenebT umweo<br />

mdgomareobaSi, gavxdiT sasacilos,<br />

cils davwamebT da sazogadoebis<br />

mtrad gamovacxadebT”.<br />

erovnuli saqmisTvis<br />

mebrZol adamianTa “umweo<br />

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />

internetSi<br />

www.saertogazeti.ge<br />

SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />

`Tu momklaven, davisveneb,<br />

aseT saqarTveloSi<br />

cxovreba me ar SemiZlia!~<br />

mdgomareobaSi Casayeneblad”,<br />

“dalesis doqtrinis” mixedviT,<br />

pirovnebaTa marginalizacia<br />

da maTi destruqciulad<br />

Seracxva gamoiyeneba. swored<br />

am meTods iyenebdnen da aseT<br />

marginalizacias hqonda adgili<br />

guram SaraZis mimarTac.<br />

qalbatoni svetlanas werili<br />

ase iwyeba: “qalbatono baia!<br />

2012 wlis 8 Tebervals<br />

“saerTo gazeTSi wavikiTxe<br />

Tqveni werili _ “vin Zarcvavas<br />

saqarTvelos erovnul saganZurs...<br />

minda didi madloba<br />

gadagixadoT Cemi meuRlis, guram<br />

SaraZis xsenebisTvis, vinaidan<br />

me da Cemi ojaxi am bednierebas<br />

moklebuli varT. garda<br />

ramdenime gamonaklisisa,<br />

mag. mama basilisa da erTiori<br />

adamianis garda mas aravin<br />

axsenebs. Tqvenma werilma mibiZga<br />

imisken, rom mogaxsenoT<br />

Semdegi: Cemi pirmSo Svili<br />

laSa SaraZe daibada 1965 wlis<br />

12 maiss. es dRe gaxlavT<br />

wm. andria pirvelwodebulis<br />

xsenebis dRe. me da Cemi meuRle<br />

bednieri adamianebi viyaviT<br />

am dRes manam, sanam ukeTurma<br />

Cemi Svili Cumad, miparviT,<br />

qurdulad ar gamoasalma sicocxles.<br />

amis Semdeg, yovel<br />

12 maiss wminda didmowame panteleimonis<br />

(mkurnalis) ta-<br />

ZarSi vixdidiT SekveTil wirvas<br />

da panaSvids. ase iyo 2007<br />

wlis 12 maissac. wirvis Semdeg<br />

Cven da Cveni axloblebi<br />

SevikribeT sasaflaoze. gurams<br />

viRacam daureka da Turme<br />

sTxova saswrafod Sexvedra<br />

universitetis pirvel korpusTan.<br />

vinaidan me ori yavarjniT<br />

davdiodi (2000 wlis 10<br />

marts Cemi saxlis win WavWavaZis<br />

prospeqtze damejaxa Tu<br />

damajaxes manqana, dRemde gaurkvevelia)<br />

ar damtova sasaflaoze<br />

da bavSvebTan erTad<br />

saxlSi wamomiyvana. naxevar saaTSi<br />

mobrunda da bavSvebma kari<br />

rom gauRes, xelSi SerCaT<br />

babu, romelic cxare cremlebiT<br />

tiroda. Sevida Tavis<br />

oTaxSi pirjvris weriT, dakocna<br />

dedamisis da laSas suraTebi.<br />

mere momibirunda da<br />

miTxra: ”axla Sevxvdi erT<br />

kacs, romelmac miTxra Tu rogor<br />

gaiyida qarTuli ganZi.<br />

greg gurovi xom CaZaRlda (avariaSi<br />

daiRupa), axla Camodis<br />

misi Zma da mas miaqvs qar-<br />

Tuli siwmindeebio. sicocxlis<br />

fasadac rom damijdes, ar<br />

gavatano”. aki, daujda kidec.<br />

am ubedurebidan erT kviraSi,<br />

20 maiss, guram SaraZe mokles.<br />

dakrZalvidan erT kviraSi Tu<br />

aT dReSi, CvenTan dareka vi-<br />

Rac qalbatonma tiriliT:<br />

_“ganZi waiReso”. vis mivmar-<br />

ToT, batoni gurami rom aRar<br />

gvyavso”. ki davreke viRac-vi-<br />

RacebTan, magram aRarafers azri<br />

rom ar hqonda, gavCerdi.<br />

erTma qarTvelma “raindma”,<br />

“vaJkacma” da “demokratma”<br />

biWma damireka am gamwarebul<br />

adamians da ase miTxra: “qalo,<br />

Sen saqme dageliao. Tu waiRes,<br />

isev ukan Camoitaneno (ise ixaros<br />

misma STamomavalma). sul<br />

vafrTxilebdi Cems meuRles<br />

(Tu gnebavT, damZraxeT) “guri,<br />

gaCerdi, Torem mogklaven,<br />

tyvias gesvrian-meTqi. mere<br />

rao, Tu tyvias mesvrian, davisveneb.<br />

me aseT saqarTveloSi<br />

sicocxele ar mindao.<br />

Aadamiani erTxel ibadeba da<br />

erTxel kvdebao. waval da Cems<br />

laSikosTan davwvebio”. Rmer-<br />

Tia mowame, ramdeni SemoTavazebebi<br />

hqonda: mTeli ojaxiT<br />

(aTi suli) hpirdebodnen amerikaSi<br />

dasaxlebas, saukeTeso<br />

binebs, maRal xelfasebs, bavSvebisTvis<br />

swavla-ganaTlebis<br />

micemas da sxva sikeTeebs (Tu<br />

CavTvliT yovelive amas sike-<br />

Ted.) piradad me mosveneba ar<br />

mqonda: Tu telefonze rekviT<br />

(bevrjer gineba da muqara ar<br />

damklebia), Tu sadarbazosTan<br />

daxvedriT, nacnob-megobrebis<br />

mogzavniT, magram arc me, arc<br />

Cems meuRlesa da arc Cemi<br />

ojaxis wevrebs erTi wuTiTac<br />

ar gvifiqria dagvetovebina<br />

Cveni ubeduri qveyana, Cveni salocavi<br />

miwa-wyali, Cveni saficari<br />

saflavebi, Cveni sawyali,<br />

magram mainc gautexeli da<br />

vaJkaci qarTveli xalxi. bedis<br />

ironiiT, dRes Cemi ojaxis<br />

ramdenime wevri emigrantia, ra<br />

Tqma unda, droebiT. Cems<br />

sawyalsa da gaubedurebul qaliSvils,<br />

rusudan SaraZes Seicariis<br />

mTavrobam politikuri<br />

TavSesafari misca qmar-<br />

SvilTan erTad. qristiani adamiani,<br />

rac ar unda gamwarebuli<br />

iyos am gautanelsa da<br />

ubedur wuTisofelSi, Tavs<br />

ver iklavs. mec var cocxali.<br />

velodebi, rodis inebebs ufali<br />

Cemi sulis SeerTebas Cemi<br />

sayvareli da saficari adamianebis<br />

sulebTan. didxans vyoymanobdi<br />

SemewuxebineT Tu ara,<br />

magram mere vifiqre, bolos da<br />

bolos Svilad mekuTvnis da<br />

ar damZraxavs_ meTqi. pativiscemiT,<br />

s. gaxaria-SaraZe. 28/3.<br />

2012 weli”. qalbatoni svetlanas<br />

msgavsad, mec makvirvebs<br />

politikosTagan ratom aravin<br />

aRar axsenebs an<br />

guram SaraZis mkvlelobas,<br />

an<br />

erovnuli saganZurisa<br />

da kulturuli<br />

memkvirdeobis<br />

gatanis irgvliv<br />

bneliT mocul<br />

mocul Temas?<br />

qarTveli<br />

xalxisa da eris-<br />

Tvis, politikos-<br />

Ta xelisufleba-<br />

Si mosvlaze mniSvnelovani<br />

da<br />

mtkivneuli swored<br />

misi kulturuli<br />

memkvidreobis<br />

gatanis sakiTxia<br />

da ara is,<br />

romeli politikosi<br />

ra procentiT<br />

mova xelisuflebasa<br />

da parlamentSi.<br />

gvaxsovdes, rom dakargul-gayidul<br />

saganZurze<br />

pasuxismgebelni xelisuflebasTan<br />

erTad Tanabrad viqnebiT<br />

Cvenc, sazogadoebis is nawilic,<br />

romelic am Temaze saubars<br />

moerida da gaCumda da<br />

amas mxolod “nacionalebsac”<br />

veRar gadavabralebT!<br />

me ki imiT davasruleb, ri-<br />

Tic daviwye _ batoni guram<br />

SarZis TemiT. guram SaraZis<br />

Temis tabuireba, rogorc sazogadoebis,<br />

politikosebis,<br />

ise televiziebis mxridan, didi<br />

unamusoba da uzneobaa. adamiani<br />

im erovnul saganZuris,<br />

siwmindeebisa da kulturuli<br />

memkvidreobisTvis brZolas<br />

Seewira, romelze xmis amoRebasac<br />

mxolod sakuTari usafrTxoebisa<br />

da keTildReobis<br />

gamo bevri dResac ver bedavs.<br />

baia amaSukeli

#22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi<br />

11<br />

kanonieri qurdebis TemiT,<br />

albaT, arc davinteresdebodiT,<br />

rom ara dRevandeli xelisuflebis<br />

da maT Soris prezidentad<br />

wodebuli mixeil saakaSvilis<br />

am samyarosTan, rbilad rom<br />

vTqvaT, gaurkveveli urTierTobis<br />

Sesaxeb arsebuli informaciebi.<br />

moarul xmebs Tu davujerebT,<br />

saakaSvili maTi didi<br />

xelSewyobiT movida jer SevardnaZis<br />

xelisuflebaSi, xolo<br />

Semdeg prezidentic ki gaxda.<br />

`Sav samyarosTan~ sakmaod Tbili<br />

urTierToba saakaSvilis winamorbed<br />

eduard SevardnaZesac<br />

rom hqonda, amis Sesaxeb araer-<br />

Txel mogvismenia. rogorc Cans,<br />

SevardnaZes arc komunistebis<br />

periodSi hqonia maTTan cudi<br />

urTierToba. am yvelafris Sesaxeb<br />

informacia `saerTo gazeTs~<br />

kargad informirebulma sando<br />

wyarom miawoda. misive usafr-<br />

Txoebidan gamomdinare, Cveni<br />

respondentis vinaobis gamxelisgan<br />

Tavs SevikavebT.<br />

wyaros informaciiT, qurduli<br />

ideologiis gamococxleba<br />

yofil ssrk-Si 70-ian wlebSi<br />

dawyebula, rodesac qurduli<br />

sazogadoebebi iatakqveSeTidan<br />

masobrivad gamovidnen. 70-iani<br />

wlebis bolodan da 80-iani<br />

wlebis dasawyisidan Crdilovanma<br />

ekonomikam arnaxuli tempiTa<br />

da masStabebiT iwyo ganviTareba,<br />

ris paraleluradac kanonieri<br />

qurdebi kaliebiviT moedvnen<br />

qveyanas da maSindeli Sss-s e.w.<br />

obxss-is TanamSromlebTan er-<br />

Tad inawilebdnen `uSromeli~<br />

Semosavlebidan garkveul wilebs.<br />

1979 wels qalaq kislovodskSi<br />

Sexvedra Sedga maSindeli<br />

Crdilovani ekonomikis warmomadgenlebs,<br />

e.w. cexavikebsa da<br />

`kanonier qurdebs~ Soris, sadac<br />

kriminalebma Crdilovani<br />

ekonomikis `mamebs~ qurduli<br />

`obSiagis~ Sesavsebad Semosavlis<br />

10% mosTxoves. 1982 wels<br />

ki TbilisSi Sedga didi qurduli<br />

`sxodka~ imdroindeli avtoritetis<br />

jaba ioselianis<br />

xelmZRvanelobiT, sadac man Sokismomgvreli<br />

winadadeba Seitana<br />

- momxdariyo qurduli sazogadoebis<br />

transformacia, anu qurdebis<br />

monawileoba gazrdiliyo<br />

qveynis ekonomikur da politikur<br />

cxovrebaSi. gamodis, sabWo-<br />

Ta mTavroba marTalia araoficialurad,<br />

magram mainc aRiarebda<br />

`kanonieri qurdebis~ kanonierebas.<br />

im droisTvis ssrk-Si daaxloebiT.<br />

52-mde kanonieri qurdi<br />

iyo. realurad kanonieri qurdebis<br />

politikaSi CarTva moxda<br />

`perestroikis~ gamocxadebisTanave,<br />

rodesac saxelmwifo uSiSroebis<br />

komitetSi (suk-i) Seiqmna<br />

organizebul danaSaulTan<br />

brZolis danayofi, romelsac masiuri<br />

Seteva unda ganexorcielebina<br />

`kanonieri qurdebis~<br />

ordenze, Tumca es danayofi Tavad<br />

Caudga oficialurad kriminalebs<br />

saTaveSi da maT saxelmwifoebrivi<br />

funqciac daakisra.<br />

saqme iqamdec ki mivida, rom Zalovani<br />

struqturebi presti-<br />

Jul da saxelian kriminalebs<br />

`pativs~ scemda da ar awuxebda,<br />

radgan icodnen, rom maT ukan<br />

Zalze maRalCiniani da gavleniani<br />

personebi idgnen. Zalian originaluri<br />

damokidebuleba Camoyalibebula<br />

maSindel miliciasa<br />

da kanonier qurdebs Soris, isini<br />

Turme arasdros uSlidnen<br />

erTmaneTs nervebs, ufro metic,<br />

erTmaneTs exmarebodnen. kerZod,<br />

milicia masTan misul qurdebs<br />

saqmeebs `uwyobda~, cxadia, soliduri<br />

gasamrjelos fasad,<br />

xolo qurdebi samarTaldamcavebs<br />

exmarebodnen prestiJuli<br />

gauxsneli saqmeebis gaxsnaSi da<br />

qurdebis winaaRmdeg mimdinare<br />

kampaniebis dros arasasurveli<br />

qurdebis `CaZirvaSi~.<br />

mogexsenebaT, mada WamaSi modis<br />

da 80-iani wlebis bolos<br />

erT-erT qurdul `sxodkaze~ gadawyda,<br />

rom xelisuflebaSi `CaenergaT~<br />

TavianTi warmomadgenlebi.<br />

kandidatebi mkacrad iyvnen<br />

SerCeulni da, Sesabamisad, maTi<br />

vinaobac gasaidumloebuli, romlebic<br />

SemdgomSi sazRvargare-<br />

Tis prestiJul saswavleblebSi<br />

gaagzavnes. swavlis damTavrebis<br />

Semdeg es kandidatebi sargeblobdnen,<br />

rogorc `obSiagis~<br />

fuliT, ise qurduli kavSirebiT.<br />

amitomac maT Tavbrudamxvevi<br />

kariera hqondaT. ramdeni ase-<br />

Ti `kandidatia~ dRes Tundac<br />

saqarTvelos xelisuflebaSi,<br />

aravin icis da albaT, verc gavigebT.<br />

aqve unda aRiniSnos<br />

isic, rom erT-erTi informaciiT<br />

saqarTvelos dRevandeli<br />

e.w. prezidenti<br />

mixeil saakaSvili<br />

swored `kanoneri qurdis~,<br />

jaba ioselianis<br />

dafinansebiT cxovrobda<br />

da swavlobda amerikis<br />

SeerTebul StatebSi.<br />

Crdilovani ekonomikis aseTma<br />

zrdam da am niadagze `kanonieri<br />

qurdebis~ raodenobis arnaxulma<br />

matebam suks SesaZlebloba<br />

daukarga isini ekontrolebina.<br />

im periodSi marto suks<br />

ki ara, miliciasac hyavda Tavis<br />

kontrolqveS myofi `kanonieri<br />

qurdebi~, Tumca ufro presti-<br />

Julad sukis qurdebi iTvlebodnen,<br />

radgan narkotikebis<br />

tranzits, Crdilovani ekonomikis<br />

qvemodan marTvas da qveynis<br />

politikaSi Carevas isini axorcielebdnen.<br />

marTalia, im periodis<br />

ssrk-Si erovnulma moZraobam<br />

gansakuTrebulad warmatebuli<br />

starti saqarTveloSi aiRo,<br />

magram amave dros narkotranziti,<br />

Crdilovani ekonomika da<br />

qurduli ideologiac gansakuTrebulad<br />

swored saqarTveloSi<br />

yvaoda. erTi periodi qurdul<br />

ordens saqarTveloSi daundobeli<br />

brZolac ki gamoucxades,<br />

magram amas ufro kampaniuri xasiaTi<br />

hqonda, Tanac mosaxleoba<br />

mas sadamsjelo operaciad ufro<br />

aRiqvamda, amitomac aRniSnulma<br />

didi veraferi Sedegi moitana.<br />

SevardnaZis xelisuflebaSi<br />

xelmeored mosvliT msoflio<br />

politikaSic axali epoqa daiwyo,<br />

kerZod, es iyo ruseTis<br />

gavlenis Sesusteba yofili mokavSire<br />

qveynebis teritoriaze.<br />

unda iTqvas, SevardnaZem am misias<br />

Tavi brwyinvaled gaarTva,<br />

radgan man sxvadasxva xrikebiT<br />

`kanonieri qurdebi~ da<br />

kriminaluri samyaros<br />

danamatad qceuli xelisufleba<br />

ase vTqvaT, miaZina rusuli ambicia<br />

da farTod gauRo kari dasavleTur<br />

civilizacias. ruseTi<br />

amas mxolod `vardebis revoluciis~<br />

Semdeg mixvda, magram ukve<br />

gvian iyo, radgan man aramarto<br />

saqarTveloSi, aramed mTel amierkavkasiaSi<br />

waago brZola. es<br />

wageba ki misTvis savalalo aRmoCndeboda,<br />

radgan igi zegavlenas<br />

evropazec dakargavda, rac<br />

sabolood, misi, rogorc msoflio<br />

elitis qveynis ganadgurebas<br />

gamoiwvevda. swored amitom<br />

ruseTma Cveul meTods mimarTa,<br />

daiwyo Zalismieri berketebis<br />

gamoyeneba da TiTqmis daibruna<br />

Selaxuli poziciebi. bunebrivia<br />

am movlenebma kriminalur samyarosac<br />

Tavisi daRi daasva. adre<br />

Tu kanonieri qurdi<br />

Tavad qmnida mis daqvemdebarebaSi<br />

myof<br />

kriminalur dajgufebas,<br />

axla TviTon am<br />

dajgufebebma daiwyes<br />

sakuTari nebasurvilis<br />

gamtarebeli `kanonieri<br />

qurdebis~<br />

Seqmna. am procesis<br />

naTel magaliTad e.w.<br />

veris saZmo SegviZlia<br />

moviyvanoT, romlis<br />

SeqmniTac saqarTveloSi<br />

axali tipis mafiozur-klanuri<br />

sistemis<br />

Camoyalibeba<br />

daiwyo. maT droulad<br />

moaxdines (Tu moaxdenines)<br />

axal droebasTan<br />

Segueba da<br />

dRes isini TiTqmis<br />

martoni marTaven saqarTvelos<br />

kriminalur elitas<br />

da ekonomikasac ki. swored<br />

amis gamoZaxili iyo im dauxvewavi<br />

kanonis miReba kanonieri<br />

qurdebisa da kriminaluri avtoritetebis<br />

winaaRmdeg. marTalia<br />

iyo garkveuli winaaRmdegoba sazogadoebis<br />

mxridan am kanonTan<br />

dakavSirebiT, gavixsenoT moWidaveebis<br />

aqcia Tu cixis bunti,<br />

magram saakaSvilis Tqmisa ar<br />

iyos, `ZaRli yefs, magram qaravani<br />

midis~.<br />

calke saubris Temaa xsenebuli<br />

`veris saZmo~, radgan man<br />

kriminalur samyaroSi ruseTis<br />

gavlena daamuxruWa da Tavad<br />

gaxda elita, Tumca gairkva, rom<br />

isinic ruseTisa da aSS-is er-<br />

Toblivi ZalisxmeviT moqmedebdnen<br />

saqarTveloSi. am dajgufebis<br />

Seqmna 80-ian wlebSi, `perestroikis~<br />

gamocxadebis periodSive<br />

daiwyo. isini TavianT<br />

Tavs meorenairad `borotebsac~<br />

uwodebdnen. am dajgufebaSi gaerTiandnen<br />

vera-vakeSi mcxovrebi<br />

sportsmenebi, romlebic privilegirebuli<br />

ojaxebidan iyvnen,<br />

gaaCndaT farTo kavSirebi da<br />

swored am kavSirebis gamo hqondaT<br />

dausjelobis sindromi.<br />

swored maT daudes saTave, Tanac<br />

im periodidanve aramarto<br />

saqarTveloSi, aramed mTel postkomunistur<br />

sivrceSi axali<br />

tipis mafiozur-klanuri<br />

struqturis Camoyalibebas, romelsac<br />

mTlianad unda Seecvala<br />

socialistur-qurduli mmarTvelobis<br />

struqtura. revolucia<br />

marto zeda fenebSi ki ara, aramed<br />

qveda fenebSic xdeba, igulisxmeba<br />

kriminaluri samyaro,<br />

romelic yovelTvis gadajaWvulia<br />

oficiozTan da emsaxureba<br />

mas. amitomac devnida da devnis<br />

es xelisufleba `kanonier qurdebs~<br />

am axalmiRebuli kanonebiT,<br />

radgan ZiriTadi revoluciuri<br />

gardaqmnebi mogvianebiT<br />

daiwyo da axlac grZeldeba.<br />

dRevandel xelisuflebaSi arian<br />

im axali mafiozur-klanuri<br />

dajgufebebis warmomadgenlebi,<br />

romelTa miRebuli kanonebiTac<br />

devnian qurdebs da es xalxi sulac<br />

ar dagidevT imas, rom Tvi-<br />

Ton ufro meti danaSauli aqvT<br />

Cadenili. maTi ZiriTadi mizani<br />

qurdebis biznesis mitaceba, maTi<br />

qonebis xelSi Cagdeba, iaraRiT<br />

vaWrobis biznesis daufleba da<br />

narkotranzitis gakontroleba<br />

iyo, romelic kanonier qurdebs<br />

waarTves. am yvlafrisTvis ki,<br />

politikaSi yofna aucilebelia.<br />

yovelives ganapirobebs didi<br />

fuli, dRes ki didi fuli swored<br />

narkotranzitSia, Tumca mas<br />

iaraRiT vaWrobac daemata, romelsac<br />

2004 wels Seqmnili policiis<br />

struqturuli danayofebis<br />

meSveobiT axorcieleben.<br />

am axladSeqmnili struqturuli<br />

danayofebis TanamSromlebs<br />

specialuri saSvebi aqvT, romelSic<br />

aRniSnulia, rom mis<br />

mflobels (sxaTa Soris am saSvSi<br />

gvar-saxeli miTiTebuli ar<br />

aris) veravin mosTxovs sabuTebis<br />

warmodgenas. es piri, sadac<br />

unda iq gaaCerebs avtomanqanas<br />

da rac yvelaze mTavaria, mis<br />

daqvemdebarebaSi myof tvirTs<br />

veravin Seamowmebs.<br />

wyaros gancxadebiT, `kanonieri<br />

qurdebisa~ da kriminaluri<br />

samyaros winaaRmdeg miRebul<br />

xsenebul kanons saerTod ar<br />

umuSavia, Tu ar CavTvliT qonebis<br />

konfiskacias, rac marTla<br />

moxda. am kanonis miRebis realuri<br />

mizanic es iyo, Tumca aqve<br />

isic unda iTqvas, rom qonebis<br />

konfiskacia saerTod ar Sexebia<br />

tariel onianis kriminaluri<br />

dajgufebis wevrebs. `vardebis<br />

revoluciis~ Semdeg dakavebul<br />

yvela kanonier qurds,<br />

rogorc wesi, raRac kanongare-<br />

Se `aRmouCines~. zogjer saqme<br />

kuriozebamdec ki midioda. erTerT<br />

dakavebuls cecxlsasroli<br />

iaraRi Caudes, arada Cxrekisas<br />

mas marTlac aRmouCines meore<br />

iaraRi. erT-erTma kanonierma<br />

qurdma uari Tqva qarTuli pasportis<br />

aRebaze da qveynidan<br />

gasvlaze, radgan mas Tavisi saxelis<br />

komprometaciis SeeSinda.<br />

policielebma aseTi scena gaiTamaSes,<br />

am qurdis magier is policieli<br />

daakaves, romelic mas<br />

Zalze hgavda da cecxlsasroli<br />

iaraRi `aRmouCines~, gaformebiT<br />

ki ra Tqma unda, yvelaferi am<br />

`kanonier qurdze~ gaaformes da<br />

bunebrivia, pasuxic agebines.<br />

Cveni wyaros informaciiT,<br />

Tu 2003 wlamde saqarTvelos<br />

teritoriaze ruseTi akontrolebda<br />

narkotranzits, `vardebis<br />

revoluciis~ Semdeg es funqcia<br />

aSS-is specsamsaxurebma Caigdes<br />

xelSi da isini kurireben.<br />

Turme imitom yofila atexili<br />

imxela aJiotaJi aWaris `gasaTavisufleblad~.<br />

saqarTvelos<br />

mTeli strategiuli ekonomikuri<br />

obieqtebi ki ruseTs gadaeca<br />

mizerul fasad. rogorc Cans, am<br />

saxiT moxda ruseTis kompensireba.<br />

am dajgufebam, anu dRevandelma<br />

xelisuflebam gavlenis<br />

sferoebis xelSi Cagdebis mizniT<br />

saqarTveloSi wesieri da<br />

realuri investori ar gaaxara.<br />

sxvadasxva mizezebiT, aTasgvari<br />

fandebiTa da maqinaciebiT isini<br />

saqarTvelodan gayares da maTi<br />

adgilebi sxvadasxva saxelebis<br />

gamoyenebiT TviTon Caigdes xel-<br />

Si. mokled, erTis mxriv, Seqmnes<br />

axali tipis kriminaluri<br />

elita, meores mxriv ki yvelaferi<br />

gaakeTes, rom saqarTvelo,<br />

rogorc saxelmwifo ar Semdgariyo<br />

da xalxs isev `kanonieri<br />

qurdi~ monatreboda.<br />

manana suxiSvili

12 saerTo gazeTi #22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

gvesaubreba partia `Tavisufali<br />

saqarTvelos~ Tavmjdomare<br />

kaxa kukava:<br />

_ kaxa, ras ityviT, aSS<br />

kvlav saakaSvils uWers mxars?<br />

_ arsebobs politikuri TamaSis<br />

wesebi, maT Soris amerikuli,<br />

romelic Semdegs moiTxovs<br />

_ qveyanaSi, rogorc<br />

xelisufleba, ise opozicia<br />

nominalurad unda arsebobdes.<br />

aSS-sTvis mniSvnelovania sazogadoebriv<br />

azrze zegavlenas<br />

srulad flobdes, isini unda<br />

akontrolebdnen saqarTveloSi<br />

yvela moTamaSes _ xelisuflebas,<br />

opoziciasac, mediasac, eqspertebsac<br />

da arasamTavroboebsac.<br />

amitomac, isini am logikiT<br />

muSaoben. is, rom aSS `nac.<br />

moZraobis~ garda `qristiandemokratebTan~,<br />

`axal memarjveneebTan~,<br />

`qarTul ocnebas-<br />

Tan~ `respublikelebTan~ muSaobs,<br />

es erTgvari speqtaklia,<br />

partiebs eubnebian _ Tqvi, vi-<br />

Tom opozicia xar, viTom xelisufleba<br />

xar. am dros arc<br />

xelisuflebaa xelisufleba da<br />

arc opoziciaa opozicia. yvelam<br />

kargad viciT, rom saqarTvelos<br />

saakaSvili ki ara, aramed<br />

aSS-s saelCo marTavs, xolo<br />

miSa maT azrebs axmovanebs.<br />

meore mxriv, arc opozicia ar<br />

aris opozicia imitom, rom<br />

isini araferSi ar ewinaaRmdegebian<br />

xelisuflebis kurss.<br />

daakvirdiT NDI-s da `airais~_<br />

gamokiTxvebs. SemiZlia eqskluziurad<br />

giTxraT Semdegi _<br />

zustad vici, rom NDI-s gamokiTxvebis<br />

mixedviT Cvens partias<br />

14 procentiani reitingi<br />

hqonda, romelic ar gamocxadebula.<br />

Tumca, me vaiZuleb amis<br />

Sesaxeb gancxadeba gaakeTon,<br />

radgan zust informacias<br />

vflob amis Taobaze, mtkicebulebebi<br />

maqvs da NDI-s amis<br />

aRiareba mouwevs. savaraudod<br />

am monacemebs respublikuri institutic<br />

flobs. ratom aqveyneben<br />

isini sxva partiebis<br />

reitingebs da blokaven Cvens<br />

politikur organizacias? _<br />

imitom, rom maTTvis pro-amerikul<br />

partiebs Soris vis eqneba<br />

11 procenti da vis 31 procenti,<br />

meorexarisxovania. mTavaria<br />

`Tavisufali saqarTvelos~<br />

mimarT sazogadoebis simpaTiebis<br />

zrda ar moxdes. piradi<br />

kontaqtebidan vici, rom<br />

isini mTavar safrTxed swored<br />

`Tavisufal saqarTvelos~ aRiqvamen<br />

da ara romelime im<br />

opoziciur Zalas, romelic<br />

Tavidan bolomde aSS-s marionetuli<br />

mmarTvelobis mier<br />

damkvidrebul, e.w. liberalur<br />

faseulobebs iziarebs.<br />

_ kaxa, natoSi gawevrianeba<br />

da avRaneTSi Cveni jarebis<br />

gawveva axsene. Tu erT pro-amerikul<br />

Zalas meoreTi CavanacvlebT,<br />

romelic aseve warmatebiT<br />

gagvawevrianebs natoSi, av-<br />

RaneTSi amogvixocavs qarTvel<br />

jariskacebs, risTvis vibrZviT<br />

maSin?<br />

_ diax, es SekiTxva gvaqvs<br />

Cvenc, qarTul sazogadoebas _<br />

bolobolo unda vicodeT ra<br />

gvinda. Cveni sazogadoeba iciT<br />

vis hgavs? _ luarsab TaTqari-<br />

Zes `kacia-adamianidan~, romelmac<br />

Zalian Tu Sewuxdeba da<br />

ofli daasxams, SeiZleba Subli<br />

moiwmindos, an buzi Tu daajda<br />

xeli auqnios, magram konceptualurad,<br />

ra saxelmwifos<br />

Seneba gvinda, amaze fiqrisTvis<br />

qarTulma sazogadoebam jer<br />

ver moicala, roca SevardnaZem<br />

qarTveli sazogadoeba Zalian<br />

Seawuxa, xalxi quCaSi gamovida<br />

da igi gaagdes, magram arcerTi<br />

wuTiT ar gvifiqria, Tu<br />

ra gvindoda SevardnaZis Semdgom,<br />

amitomac miviReT saakaSvili.<br />

dResac, rodesac saakaSvili<br />

ukve Zalian Semawuxebelia,<br />

sazogadoeba drtvinavs, magram<br />

Zalian cota dros uTmobs imaze<br />

fiqrs, Tu ra iqneba saakaSvilis<br />

Semdgom. garwmunebT,<br />

rogorc SevardnaZis avtomaturma<br />

gadadgomam progresi ar<br />

moitana, aseve moxdeba saakaSvilis<br />

SemTxvevaSic. kargad unda<br />

davfiqrdeT, Tu gvinda iseTive<br />

damoukidebelni viyoT, rogorc<br />

safrangeTi, germania da<br />

sxvebi, unda vicodeT, rom es<br />

qveynebi amerikis koloniebi ar<br />

arian. am qveynebma TavianT ganviTarebas<br />

mxolod Zalian<br />

principuli, ukompromiso, xSirad<br />

sisxliani brZolis Sedegad<br />

miaRwies. Tu Cven gvinda<br />

aSS-s marTvis qveS myofi, axali<br />

tipis kolonia viyoT, sadac<br />

inglisuri saxelmwifo ena<br />

iqneba da aSS-s 51-e Stati viqnebiT,<br />

maSin ar unda gvqondes<br />

pretenzia, rom iseve vicxovrebT,<br />

rogorc germanelebi an<br />

frangebi. amerikuli koloniebi,<br />

Tanamedrove msoflioSi,<br />

esaa erayi, avRaneTi, afrikaSi<br />

uamravi damokidebuli reJimi,<br />

libia da a.S. amitom qarTulma<br />

sazogadoebam arCevani unda gaakeTos.<br />

es procesi 2012 wlis<br />

oqtomberSi ar mTavrdeba, magram<br />

iwyeba. `Tavisufali saqar-<br />

Tvelo~ qarTvel sazogadoebas<br />

swored evropul arCevans sTavazobs,<br />

raTa Tavisufali eri<br />

viyoT. arian pro-amerikuli<br />

partiebi, romlebic<br />

qarTvel xalxs eubnebian<br />

_ ar gvinda bevri<br />

fiqri, SevcvaloT<br />

saakaSvili, mis nacvlad<br />

moviyvanoT savle<br />

an pavle da sxva yvelaferi<br />

ucvlelad<br />

darCes. ra ufro misa-<br />

Rebi iqneba xalxisTvis,<br />

oqtomberSi gamoCndeba.<br />

_ anu Tu sworad<br />

gavige problema saakaSvilis<br />

Secvla ki ara qveynis<br />

amerkis koloniisgan gaTavisuflebaa?<br />

_ dRes Cven vcxovrobT 21-<br />

e saukuneSi, roca politikuri<br />

brZolis formebi Secvlilia.<br />

jer kidev me-19-e saukuneSi<br />

ilia werda, rom xmliT mosuli<br />

mteri saSiSi ar ariso. me-<br />

20 saukuneSi politikur<br />

brZolaSi spec. samsaxurebi da<br />

finansuri monopoliebi asrulebdnen<br />

gadamwyvet rols. ukve<br />

amanac dakarga aqtualoba.<br />

dRes mTavari ideologiaa _ interneti<br />

_ `Youtube~ da<br />

`Facebook~ bevrad ufro Zlier<br />

gavlenas axdens politikur<br />

procesze, vidre aSS-s yvela<br />

spec. samsaxuri erTad aRebuli.<br />

amitom Cveni mTavari amocana<br />

qarTuli sazogadoebis gamofxizlebaa,<br />

qarTuli sazogadoebrivi<br />

azris Seqmna _ ra<br />

gvsurs, rogori saxelmwifos<br />

Seqmna gvinda 21-e saukuneSi.<br />

rodesac 80-iani wlebis<br />

bolos gamsaxurdiam da kostavam<br />

erovnuli moZraoba daiwyes,<br />

isini saqarTvelos damoukideblobis,<br />

komunisturi<br />

reJimis Secvlis da ara gumbariZis<br />

gadayenebis moTxovniT<br />

gamodiodnen. warmogidgeniaT,<br />

raoden sasacilo iqneboda gamsaxurdias<br />

mTavar moTxovnad<br />

gumbariZis gadayeneba rom daeyenebina,<br />

es xom arafers Secvlida?!<br />

asea axlac, saakaSvilis<br />

gadadgoma qveynisTvis absoluturad<br />

arafers ar Secvlis.<br />

amiT, SeiZleba Sinagani<br />

boRma gavaneitralod da meti<br />

araferi. me aravisze naklebi<br />

siZulvili ar maqvs mis<br />

mimarT, elementarulad Cemi<br />

piradi bolo wlebis biografiidan<br />

gamomdinare, magram rogorc<br />

politikosma minda<br />

vTqva, rom es qveynisTvis arafers<br />

Secvlis. vimeoreb, Cven<br />

kaxa kukava:<br />

2006-Si vinc gvarbevda,<br />

2007 wels Cveni Tanamoazre gaxda,<br />

2007 wels vinc gvawiokebda,<br />

2008-Si Cveni TanamebrZoli<br />

gaxda. ra moxdeba 2012 wels da<br />

vin Semogvemateba 2011 wlidan?<br />

aSS-s marionetuli reJimis<br />

Secvla gvWirdeba. es ar aris<br />

Cemi axireba. politikuri sistema,<br />

romelic ase Zalian ar<br />

mogvwons saakaSvils ar Seuqmnia,<br />

aramed amas msoflios yvela<br />

kontinentze aSS hqmnis. is<br />

ekonomikuri siduxWire, rac<br />

saqarTveloSia, amis avtoria<br />

ara saakaSvili, aramed e.w. Tavisufali<br />

vaWrobis koncefcia,<br />

romelsac swored amerikuli<br />

institutebi qadageben. arc<br />

kulturuli faseulobebis ngreva<br />

da axalgazrdobis gadagvarebaa<br />

saakaSvilis mogonili,<br />

aramed es aris swored is, rasac<br />

aSS liberalur faseulobebs<br />

uwodebs da ase agresiulad<br />

nergavs mTels msoflio-<br />

Si. sxvaTaSoris, erTma Cemma<br />

megobarma amas liberaluri<br />

fundamentalizmi uwoda.<br />

_ ras unda niSnavdes `endi-ais~<br />

da `ai-rais~ kvlevis is<br />

Sedegebi, romlebsac es organizaciebi<br />

ulufa-ulufad awvdian<br />

sazogadoebas?<br />

_ rodesac NDI-m kvleva<br />

gamoaqveyna, romlis mixedviTac<br />

`nac. moZraoba~ eWvgareSe imarjvebs<br />

am arCevnebSi, ganacxades<br />

_ iciT, ra es ar aris amerikis<br />

mTavrobis pozicia, aramed<br />

luis navaroa cudi kacio. axla,<br />

roca `ai-raimac~ igive gamoaqveyna,<br />

eqspertebma gamoacxades<br />

_ arc `ai-rai~ gamoxatavs<br />

aSS-s mTavrobis poziciaso.<br />

aSS-Si sul ori partiaa _ demokratiuli<br />

da respublikuri.<br />

SeiZleba demokratiuli ar<br />

mogwondes da respublikuri<br />

ki, an piriqiT, magram roca<br />

arc demokratebi mogwons da<br />

arc respublikelebi da acxadeb,<br />

rom aSS Zalian mogwons,<br />

es saRi azrisgan Zalian daSorebuli,<br />

rogorc dasavleT-saqarTveloSi<br />

ityvian daCoCebulia.<br />

_ Cveni `respublikelebi~<br />

amerikidan bednierni dabrundnen,<br />

Tumca riTi _ erma ver gaigo.<br />

_`respublikelebis~ da<br />

qarTveli eris amocanebi erTmaneTisgan<br />

gansxvavdeba. amitom<br />

is, rom `respublikuri partia~<br />

raRac procesiT kmayofilia,<br />

isini amaSi gulwrfelni arian,<br />

ubralod maTi amocanebi ar em-<br />

Txveva qarTveli erisas. Tuki<br />

`respublikelebi~ parlamentSi<br />

xuTkacian fraqcias Seqmnian,<br />

es mTels maT biografiaSi ise-<br />

Tive miRweva iqneba, rogorc<br />

saqarTvelos fexburTis nakrebi<br />

msoflio Cempioni rom gaxdes.<br />

amitom, bunebrivia, isini<br />

im viTarebiT, rac axla iqmneba<br />

kmayofilni arian.<br />

amerikis mTavrobis gancxadebebi,<br />

maT Soris NDI-s kvlevebisac,<br />

ramdenjerme, winaswar<br />

gamogicxadeT. SemiZlia giTxraT,<br />

rogori iqneba, arCevnebis<br />

Semdeg meore adgilze gasuli<br />

politikuri Zalis gancxadeba<br />

_ Cven mogvpares gamarjveba,<br />

gagviyalbes xmebi, magram mTavaria<br />

mTeli msoflio Cven gvi-<br />

Wers mxars, vaCvenoT mTels<br />

msoflios civilizebulobis<br />

magaliTi da vemzadoT saprezidento<br />

arCevnebisTvis, sadac<br />

beWebze davdebT `nac. moZraobas~-o.<br />

CaiwereT es, sityvasityviT<br />

am gancxadebas moismenT<br />

arCevnebidan ramodenime<br />

dRis Semdeg.<br />

_ saakaSvili bolo dros<br />

araadekvaturia, Tumca aSS amaze<br />

ar reagirebs.<br />

_ saakaSvili aris kokainis<br />

momxmarebeli, es politikur,<br />

maT Soris amerikul wreebSi<br />

saidumlos ar warmoadgens. es<br />

informacia 2 wlis win amerikuli<br />

pirvelwyarosgan miviRe.<br />

me ar mjera, rom adamiani<br />

SeiZleba 2011 wlade ar iyos<br />

patrioti da 2011 wlis Semdgom<br />

gaxdes. es masobrivad xdeba<br />

qarTul politikaSi _ 2006<br />

wels vinc gvarbevda 2007<br />

wels Cveni Tanamoazre gaxda,<br />

2007-Si vinc gvarbevda 2008-<br />

Si Cveni Tanamoazre gaxda da<br />

a.S. es ar mjera. ar SeiZleba<br />

mogwondes 7 noemberi da aRgaSfoTos<br />

26-ma maisma.<br />

Tamar SveliZe

#22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

saerTo gazeTi<br />

13<br />

`saerTo gazeTis~ stumaria<br />

profesori vaJa lorTqifaniZe<br />

_ batono vaJa, yvelasaTvis<br />

cxadi gaxda, rom amerikuli<br />

arasamTavrobo organizaciis `airais~<br />

kvlevebis SedegebiT, saqarTveloSi<br />

mosaxleoba kvlav<br />

nacionalur partiasa da mis liders<br />

uWers mxars, mosaxleobam<br />

ise Seafasa, TiTqos es gaxlavT<br />

aSS-is mTavrobis ganwyobac<br />

Cvens mimarT da isini mxars dauWeren<br />

momaval arCevnebSi<br />

kvlav saakaSvils, Tqvenc<br />

ase fiqrobT?<br />

_ Cemi azriT, erT-erTi<br />

kvleviTi institutisa Tu<br />

arasamTavrobo organizaciis<br />

mier erT konkretul<br />

qveyanaSi Catarebuli gamokiTxva<br />

Tu kvleva, sulac<br />

ar niSnavs imas, rom aSS-s<br />

mTavroba mxars uWers am<br />

kvlevis Sedegebs, Tu vinme<br />

ase fiqrobs, es arasworia!<br />

SeiZleba viRacas awyobs,<br />

rom es ase warmoaCinos,<br />

magram es ase ar gaxlavT.<br />

mTavari is ki ar aris, vis<br />

ra unda, mTavaria, es ase<br />

aris Tu ara.<br />

amerikis saxelmwifom<br />

da misma liderebma araerTgzis<br />

aRniSnes, rom isini<br />

mxars uWeren ara romelime<br />

liders, aramed saqarTvelos<br />

da elodebian iseT arCevnebs,<br />

romelic samarTlianad Catardeba.<br />

araerTgzis aRniSnes<br />

barak obamac da sxvebmac, rom<br />

isini elodebian xelisuflebis<br />

mSvidobiani formiT gadabarebas,<br />

Secvlas. rac Seexeba calkeuli<br />

institutebis kvlevebs, Secdoma<br />

imaSi mdgomareobs, rom maT, Cemi<br />

azriT, mikerZoebulad Sear-<br />

Cies kvlevis Camtareblebi! es<br />

xom amerikelebis mier Catarebuli<br />

kvlevebi ar aris. me ramdenadac<br />

vici, am kvlevebs atareben<br />

saqarTvelos organizaciebi, is<br />

jgufebi, romelnic pirdapir<br />

arian mibmulni xelisuflebas.<br />

es aris yvelaze mniSvnelovani<br />

garemoeba. amitom, aqedan Cven ar<br />

unda velodoT obieqturobas. es<br />

yovelTvis iqneba mikerZoebuli<br />

imis gamo, rom Camtarebeli organizacia<br />

aris Semadgeneli nawili<br />

xelisuflebis. meore Secdoma<br />

aris isic, rom ar aris<br />

gaTvaliswinebuli da Seswavlili<br />

kvlevis meTodologia. sociologiis<br />

kvlevas aqvs zusti<br />

kriteriumebi Sesafaseblad da<br />

es Sedegebi didad aris damokidebuli<br />

am meTodologiaze.<br />

aris sxva kvlevebic Catarebuli<br />

saqarTveloSi da isini<br />

sulac ar emTxveva am kvlevis<br />

Sedegebs.<br />

Tu romelime instituti ganzrax<br />

SecdomiT Caatarebs kvlevebs,<br />

es sulac ar niSnavs imas,<br />

rom maTi saxelmwifos liderebi<br />

eTanxmebian maT isac nu dagvaviwydeba,<br />

rom amerika didi saxelmwifoa,<br />

iq bevri sxvadasxva<br />

ganwyobaa. Tu laparakia amerikis<br />

dRevandel xelisuflebaze, maT<br />

xalxis azriT<br />

saakaSvilis antiqar-<br />

Tuli politika –<br />

aWara Turqebs!.. afxazeTi<br />

da cxinvali<br />

rusebs!.. Tbilisi, “kavkasiis<br />

dedaqalaqi”?! xolo quTaisi,<br />

saqarTvelos “dedaqalaqi”?!<br />

sadac, – xan parlamentis Tavmjdomare<br />

iqneba, – xan ki premier<br />

– ministri!!!.. es xumroba<br />

ar aris!.. Tu sul gamovlenCdiT<br />

qarTvelebi da marto imis<br />

imedad viqeniT, – moaxerxeben<br />

Tu ara, qarTveli “respublikelebi”<br />

an alasanias “Tavisufali<br />

demokratebi”, amerikeli<br />

senatorebisa da kongresmenebis<br />

darwmunebas saakaSvilis<br />

“arademokratiulobaSi”, – ma-<br />

Sin qveyana aRar gveqneba!!!.. amitom,<br />

qarTveli eris saakaSvilis<br />

reJimTan dapirispireba<br />

scildeba “saSinao CarCoebs”<br />

`carieli adgilis~ da `liliputebis~<br />

erTmaneTis sinqronuli lanZRviT<br />

mxolod saqarTvelo zaraldeba...<br />

da amavdroulad, igi unda ganvixiloT,<br />

rogorc “sagareo<br />

momakvdinebeli safrTxe”, –<br />

saqarTvelos saxelmwifoebriobisa<br />

da mTlianobisaTvis, –<br />

aqedan gamomdinare SedegebiT!!!..<br />

moRalate Tu mosyiduli<br />

saakaSvilis winaaRmdeg<br />

brZola, qarTveli erisTvis<br />

yofna – aryofnis zRvarze gadis!!!..<br />

mokled, samSoblo gansacdelSia<br />

da mxolod “qudze<br />

kaci” gadaarCens mas daRupvisagan!!!<br />

miSa Tavis stiqiaSia<br />

ra.. soxumi qarTuli<br />

qalaqi arasdros yofilao<br />

_ es idiotoba<br />

kidev gaimeora... ise aRmova-<br />

Cine, am kacs buCqebis mimarT<br />

marTlac saxelmwifoebrivi<br />

midgoma aqvs..:)<br />

araerTgzis ganacxades rom isini<br />

mxars uWeren xelisuflebis<br />

mSvidobian gadabarebas. amiT me<br />

vfiqrob, yvelaferia naTqvami _<br />

es aris maTi pozicia! es me<br />

msmenia maTi respublikuri<br />

partiis liderebisganac, kongresmenebisganac,<br />

senatorebisganac.<br />

CemTvis es ufro<br />

mTavaria, vidre romelime<br />

kvlevis Sedegebi. isic nu<br />

dagvaviwydeba, rom aseTi<br />

kvlevebi sworedac imitom<br />

tardeba, rom am yvelaferma<br />

xalxis ganwyobaze, maT azrze<br />

imoqmedos _ es qveynis<br />

Sida moxmarebisTvis aris<br />

gaTvlili! es Sedegebi im<br />

mizniT daido, rom xalxs es<br />

kiTxva gasCenoda, rac Tqven<br />

damisviT, xom ar uWers aSS<br />

saqarTvelos xelisuflebas<br />

mxars? aseTi kvlevebi ruseTzec<br />

SeiZleba Cataron da<br />

Tqvan, rom saakaSvils mxars<br />

uWers ruseTic. es yvelaferi<br />

arasworia. kvlevis meTodologiis<br />

dros ar aris gaTvaliswinebuli<br />

erTi mniSvnelovani<br />

ram, is SiSis faqtori, romelic<br />

dRes Cvens qveyanaSi sufevs<br />

da xelisuflebis mxridan inergeba.<br />

bunebrivia, roca Sedian adamianebTan,<br />

Tanac iseT dros, roca<br />

yvelam icis, rom kvlevis Camtareblebi<br />

nacionaluri partiis<br />

megobrebi arian, vin gascems<br />

swor pasuxs an ratom? yvela<br />

etyvis tyuilad, rom isini nacionalebis<br />

mxardamWerebi arian.<br />

yvelam naTlad dainaxa, rom<br />

vinc ki gamoxata Ria mxardaWera<br />

biZina ivaniSvilis mimarT, ra<br />

dReSi Caagdes isini. aSineben maT<br />

ojaxebs, ateroreben, apatimreben,<br />

arTmeven bizness. vinc biZina<br />

ivaniSvilis moqalaqeobas xeli<br />

moawera. Worvileli maswavleblebis<br />

skolebidan gaaTavisufleba<br />

ra moqmedebaa? ra aris<br />

imaSi gasakviri, rom maswavleblebi,<br />

skolebidan gaaTavisufles.<br />

es ra moqmedebaa? ra aris<br />

imaSi gasakviri, rom maswavleblebi,<br />

romlebic muSaoben ivaniSvilis<br />

mier aSenebul skolaSi,<br />

romelTac mxardaWera igrZnes am<br />

pirovnebisgan am mZime wlebSi,<br />

bevrisTvis is sisxliT naTesavic<br />

aris da mxari ar unda dae-<br />

WiraT misTvis moqalaqeobis aRdgenaze?<br />

ar imsaxurebs es pirovneba<br />

sul mcire, saqarTvelos<br />

moqalaqeobas mainc? ra<br />

aris am mxardaWeraSi cudi? es<br />

yovelive ar apaties maswavleblebs<br />

da moisroles da datoves<br />

usamsaxurod da dRes ra gasakviria,<br />

rom aseTi SiSis pirobeb-<br />

Si igive saCxereSi, an quTaisSi<br />

an TbilisSi xalxi daSinebulia<br />

da Tu vinme hkiTxavs, Tu vis<br />

miscemen xmas, ityvian nacionalebs.<br />

ase rom, am gamokiTxvebsa Tu<br />

kvlevis Sedegebs sinamdvilesTan<br />

aranairi kavSiri ara aqvs. da Tu<br />

Tqven mkiTxavT, rom am kvlevebis<br />

ukan amerika xom ar dgas, es<br />

gaxlavT is, rac undaT am azris<br />

gamavrceleblebs.<br />

_ biZina ivaniSvilisaTvis saqarTvelos<br />

moqalaqeobis armicema<br />

ras niSnavs nacionalebis<br />

mxridan?<br />

_ es imas niSnavs, rom amtkiceben<br />

TiTqos, rom rasac undaT,<br />

imas gaukeTeben ivaniSvils,<br />

xalxs ki daanaxeben, rom is<br />

Zlieri konkurenti ar aris<br />

dRevandeli xelisuflebis. es<br />

aris arasamarTliani qceva, da<br />

es nacionalebs miutans sapirispiro<br />

Sedegebs, imitom rom<br />

odiTganve ase iyo saqarTvelo-<br />

Si, rom sazogadoeba dgeba im<br />

adamianis gverdiT, visac usamar-<br />

Tlod eqcevian.<br />

_ ramodenime dRis win medvedevma<br />

televiziiT ganacxada,<br />

rom is pativs scems qarTvel<br />

xalxs da Cvens qveyanas, Tumca,<br />

saakaSvili mxolod `carieli<br />

adgilia~ da meti araferio,<br />

aris Tu ara es gamoTqma misi<br />

mxridan seriozuli?<br />

_ me rogorc Cveni qveynis<br />

xelisuflebis mxridan, var winaaRmdegi<br />

aseTi aradiplomatiuri<br />

da araseriozuli gamonaTqvamebisa,<br />

aseve ver miviReb aseTive<br />

qcevas maTi mxridanac. Tuki Cven<br />

obieqturi da samarTlianebi<br />

viqnebiT, isic unda vTqvaT, rom<br />

Tu am xelisuflebis winaaRmdegni<br />

arian, me ar var amaSi<br />

darwmunebuli, im did saxelmwifos<br />

da mis liderebs moeTxovebaT<br />

imdeni sibrZne da politikuri<br />

simwife, rom saakaSvilTan<br />

pirad interesebs da qiliks ar<br />

gadaayolon mTeli qveyana. rogorc<br />

Cven qveyanas moeTxoveba<br />

koreqtuloba maT mimarT, isinic<br />

unda iyvnen koreqtulni.<br />

_ ukacravad, magram es qiliki<br />

da lanZRva erTmaneTis mimarT,<br />

putins da medvedevs saakaSvilTan<br />

sinqronSi uwevT, xan<br />

erTi mxare eZaxis meores `liliputs~,<br />

xan meore mxare saakaSvils<br />

`Ïóñòîóå ìåñòî~-s. ras<br />

unda niSnavdes es sinqroni?<br />

_ is, rac rusebma gaakeTes<br />

afxazeTTan an cxinvalTan mimar-<br />

TebaSi, ar eteva aranair CarCo-<br />

Si an wesSi imis mimarT, rom me<br />

cud urTierTobaSi var saakaSvilTan<br />

da amitom unda vamyofo<br />

xalxi aseT mdgomareobaSi. Tu<br />

qarTveli xalxi uyvars medvedevs,<br />

maSin mis istoriasac unda<br />

scen pativi, mis teritoriul<br />

mTlianobas. miwis xelyofa ar<br />

aris samarTliani qceva.<br />

Tu afxazebma moiTxoves damoukidebloba,<br />

xom yvelam kargad<br />

icis, rom es aris istoriis<br />

gayalbeba da arasamarTlianoba.<br />

Tu 2008 wlamde yvela da<br />

maT Soris ruseTi aRiarebda<br />

Cveni teritoriis mTlianobas,<br />

ra Seicvala 2008 wlis mere?<br />

afrikul qveynebSi rom midian<br />

da eZeben mokavSireebs, vinc<br />

afxazeTisa da oseTis damoukideblobas<br />

cnobs. es swori qcevaa?<br />

saqarTvelos teritoriaze<br />

rom ganalages TavianTi samxedro<br />

bazebi rusebma vis jinaze<br />

gaakeTes, erTi pirovnebisa mxolod?<br />

cxadia, maT aseT qcevaze<br />

damnaSave Cveni xelisuflebac<br />

aris, magram ruseTis pasuxismgeblobas<br />

es ar xsnis im Sedegze<br />

_rac dRes miviReT qveyanaSi.<br />

pativs scemde qarTvel<br />

xalxs da mis istorias da qveyanas<br />

ase moeqce _ sruliad SeuTavsebelia!<br />

ase, rom medvedevis<br />

mxridan es sityvebi aris mxolod<br />

ritorika!<br />

_ saakaSvilic xSirad ambobs,<br />

rom is pativs scems rus<br />

turistebs, xalxs. erTnair `TamaSs~<br />

xom ar `TamaSobs~ es ori<br />

lideri?<br />

_ ara marto turistebi uyvarT<br />

Cvens xelisufalT, rus<br />

biznesmenebsac kargad uxsnian<br />

kars. aqedan Cans, rom deklarireba<br />

xdeba erTi ramis, realurad<br />

ki saqme sul sxvanairadaa.<br />

akeTebs misTvis sasargeblo gancxadebebs<br />

ruseTis xelisufalic<br />

da Cveni qveynisac, magram<br />

yvelasaTvis TvalnaTelia, rom<br />

dRemde mogebuli rCeba jerjerobiT<br />

ruseTi! Cven varT wagebuli<br />

da amas danaxva unda! aseTma<br />

`SemTxveviT sinqronizaciam~<br />

mxolod saqarTvelo daaziana!<br />

_ SeZlebs Tu ara moaxloebul<br />

saparlamento arCevnebSi<br />

`nacionaluri moZraoba~ gamarjvebas?<br />

_ vfiqrob, `airais~ msgavsi<br />

gamokiTxvebiT isini Tavs ar moityueben.<br />

mSvenivrad ician xalxis<br />

ganwyoba TavianT mimarT, amitom<br />

msgavsi gamokiTxvebiT Tu<br />

kvlevebiT cdiloben xalxi, Cven<br />

mogvatyuon, Torem momxreebi<br />

bevri rom ar hyavT, mSvenivrad<br />

ician. cxadia, yvelanairad Seecdebian,<br />

rom arCevnebi ar iyos<br />

obieqturi, magram sazogadoebis<br />

roli amjerad didi iqneba. xalxi<br />

unda Seecados imas, rom Tavi<br />

ar moatyuebinon maT.<br />

eTer kasreliSvili

14 saerTo gazeTi #22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

`saerTo gazeTis~ stumaria<br />

mwerali merab SaTiriSvili.<br />

_ batono merab, Tqven `qar-<br />

Tuli ocnebis~ delegati iyaviT,<br />

aqtiurad monawileobdiT<br />

batoni ivaniSvilis partiis<br />

dafuZnebaSi da ucbad sxva mxares<br />

gaisma Tqveni saxeli, agvixseniT,<br />

ra xdeba?<br />

_ me vfiqrob, rom miSa saakaSvilis<br />

winaaRmdeg brZola<br />

konstituciuri gziT, es aris<br />

TiToeuli qarTvelis movaleoba.<br />

ra dros CaerTveba am<br />

brZolaSi, amas mniSvneloba ar<br />

aqvs, yvela Cvengani unda iyos<br />

jariskaci. sad iqneba is, ivaniSvilis<br />

koaliciaSi, gverdze,<br />

mxarSi, iqneba TvalsaCino saxe<br />

Tu ara, mniSvneloba ar aqvs,<br />

mTavaria, monawileoba miiRo<br />

saerTo miznisTvis brZolaSi.<br />

amJamad, aqtiurad var Cabmuli<br />

`kavkasiis helsinkis jgufTan~.<br />

cnobisaTvis, 30 aprils Catardeba,<br />

ase vTqvaT, erovnuli<br />

Tavyriloba `erovnulebis~ saxelwodebiT.<br />

_ ra iqneba `erovnulebi~,<br />

moZraoba?<br />

_ jerjerobiT es iqneba sazogadoebrivi<br />

moZraoba, romelic<br />

mxars dauWers arCevnebis<br />

gziT xelisuflebis Secvlas<br />

da `qarTul ocnebasTan~ erTad<br />

Seecdeba daamTavros arsebuli<br />

reJimi saqarTveloSi.<br />

me vfiqrob, rom nebismieri<br />

sazogadoebrivi gaerTianeba,<br />

nebismieri jgufi, Tuki is namdvilad<br />

saqarTvelos Tavisuflebaze<br />

fiqrobs, am brZolaSi<br />

unda Caebas. arcaa saWiro da-<br />

Zaxeba _ `modi, Cems gverdze<br />

dadeqi~, Tavisi SexedulebiT<br />

Tavisi wili aguri unda dados<br />

axali saqarTvelos mSeneblobaSi.<br />

me TviT imitom movedi `erovnulebTan~,<br />

rom, vfiqrob,<br />

Cemi gamosvlebiT, Cemi mentalitetiT,<br />

Cemi moqalaqeobiT<br />

da Cemi qarTvelobiT swored<br />

iq vdgavar, sadac nebismieri<br />

qarTuli ojaxi. dameTanxmebiT,<br />

albaT, rom nebismier qarTul<br />

ojaxSi Rvivis erovnuli suliskveTeba.<br />

patara magaliTs<br />

getyviT, proeqt `niWierebSi~<br />

xuloelma mamakacma<br />

da, Tu ar vcdebi, lentexelma<br />

qalbatonma gaimarjves<br />

qarTuli simReriT,<br />

momdevno wels gurjaanelma<br />

ymawvilma, Jiuris<br />

ar gadauwyvetia maTi gamarjveba,<br />

maT erma misca xma.<br />

amiT imis Tqma minda, rom<br />

mTvlemare erovnuli muxti,<br />

romelic TiTqmis yvela ojax-<br />

Sia, gasaRvivebeli, asabrialebeli<br />

da gareT gamosatania.<br />

dameTanxmebiT, rom oci welia<br />

ukve, erovnuli suliskve-<br />

Teba saqarTveloSi, erovnuli<br />

principebi da erovnuli idea<br />

gamoketilia uxilav seifSi.<br />

albaT, imaSic dameTanxmebiT,<br />

rom erovnuloba politikuri<br />

ambiciebisTvis gankuTvnili<br />

`bliudosaviT~ gaxda. rogorc<br />

calke kerZi, daTreuli aqvs,<br />

rogorc xelisuflebas, aseve<br />

calkeul politikur<br />

gaerTianebebs, magram,<br />

faqtiurad, xdeba erovnulobis<br />

Segnebuli<br />

diskreditacia.<br />

_ sityvas gawyvetinebT,<br />

magram unda vTqva,<br />

faqtia, rom qarTul<br />

realobaSi sityva `sam-<br />

Soblo~ amovarda metyvelebidan<br />

da Caenacvla<br />

sityva `qveyana~...<br />

_ amazea saubari,<br />

rom TiTqos erovnuloba,<br />

samSoblo, yvelaferi<br />

qarTulis xseneba<br />

sircxvili gaxda. TiTqos<br />

arsebobs masze didi<br />

civilizacia, rogoricaa<br />

`vefxistyaosani~,<br />

an Tundac guramiSvili,<br />

an ilia WavWavaZis<br />

ideebi, romelic gagr-<br />

Zelda gasuli saukunis 90-ian<br />

wlebSi. Cven viciT, rom erovnul<br />

moZraobaSi iseTi liderebi<br />

iyvnen, romlebmac ganaxorcieles<br />

kidec garkveul periodSi<br />

erovnuli idea, _ eseni<br />

iyvnen zviad gamsaxurdia da merab<br />

kostava. mere, viciT, rac<br />

moxda, zviad gamsaxurdias xelisuflebis<br />

damxoba, rasac<br />

mohyva ilias gzis Caxergva,<br />

erovnuli ideebis diskreditacia<br />

da raRac CarCoebSi moqceva.<br />

moxda adamianebis dayofa<br />

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />

internetSi<br />

www.saertogazeti.ge<br />

SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />

30 maiss erovnuli<br />

gamoRviZebis zarebi<br />

unda davarisxoT<br />

`SevardnaZistebad~, `zviadistebad~,<br />

mxedrionelebad~, patar-patara<br />

jgufebad da jabasa<br />

da SevardnaZis mentalitetis<br />

formatSi gadaiyvanes erovnuli<br />

idea da daukavSires<br />

erT kacs. ra Tqma unda, sisxliT<br />

da xorciT erovnuli iyo<br />

zviad gamsaxurdia, magram ra-<br />

Racnairad, TiTqos samarcxvino<br />

gaxades, TiTqos sazogadoebisgan<br />

ganacalkeves `zviadistebi.~<br />

am dros ra xdeboda? _ nebismieri<br />

arCevnebis dros, swored<br />

am `zviadistebis ~ gareSe<br />

ver igebda arCevnebs vercerTi<br />

politikuri Zala, romelic<br />

wina planze gamovidoda. saWiroebisTvis<br />

raRacnairad gamoiyenebdnen<br />

am Zalas, imitom<br />

rom garkveulwilad isic iZulebuli<br />

iyo, rom Tavisi qveynis<br />

winsvlaSi monawileoba mieRo.<br />

_ magaliTad?<br />

_ magaliTad, saakaSvili<br />

ver movidoda erovnuli Zalebis<br />

gareSe, romelsac Tavad<br />

arqmevdnen `zviadistebs~, gamoiyenes<br />

da datoves motyuebuli.<br />

cxadia, ramdenime adamianis<br />

garda, romelic garewari iyo,<br />

rogorc Cans, zviadis drosac<br />

da swored am garewrebiT moxda<br />

zviadis ideebis da mizandasaxulobis<br />

diskreditacia,<br />

konkretul pirebs ar vexebi,<br />

vgulisxmob maT, vinc amJamad<br />

`nacionalebSi~ arian.<br />

iseTi politikuri viTareba<br />

Seiqmna saqarTveloSi am oci<br />

wlis ganmavlobaSi, rom, TiTqos,<br />

erovnuli ideebis matarebeli<br />

xalxi fanatizmSi arian<br />

gadasuli _ isini `zviadistebi~<br />

arian. ara, Cemo kargo, isini<br />

`zviadistebi~ ki ar arian,<br />

isini erovnulebi arian da im<br />

ideis matareblebi, ilias im<br />

gzis gamgrZeleblebi, romel<br />

ideasac Seewira Tavad zviadi.<br />

me vfiqrob, dRes saqarTveloSi<br />

dadga imis dro, rom<br />

Sewydes Cveni mxridan imaze saubari,<br />

rom erovnul-liberalebi<br />

varT. ara, Cemo kargo,<br />

arc liberalizmi da arc arc<br />

erTi politikuri mimarTuleba<br />

erovnulobis gareSe ar ganxorcieldeba.<br />

is, rom Cven qarTvelebi varT,<br />

xmamaRla unda vTqvaT. erovnuli<br />

ideis matarebel xalxs<br />

gverdze unda davudgeT isinic,<br />

romlebmac maSin, nebsiT<br />

Tu uneblied, ver miviReT monawileoba<br />

verc imdroindeli<br />

xelisuflebis mxardasaWerad<br />

da verc mowinaaRmdeged, viyaviT<br />

neitraluri, an adamianebi,<br />

romelTac maSin tyvia ar usvriaT<br />

da ar CaudeniaT danaSauli<br />

qarTveli erisa da saxelmwifos<br />

winaaRmdeg.<br />

dameTanxmebiT, rom mas Semdeg,<br />

rac Cveni erovnuli Rirsebis<br />

damcvelebi Cvenve viqnebiT,<br />

kargi partniorebi aRmov-<br />

CndebiT mezobeli qveynebisTvisac,<br />

evropisa da amerikisTvisac.<br />

Cven Tu Cvens erovnul<br />

Rirsebas da erovnul faseulobebs<br />

ar vufrTxildebiT da<br />

ar vinaxavT, ar vaviTarebT da<br />

ar vaRvivebT, vin varT Cven<br />

rusisTvis, amerikelisTvis Tu<br />

nebismieri sxva qveynisTvis,<br />

TavSi wamosartymelebi? me, magaliTad,<br />

SeiZleba, Turqs vce<br />

pativi pirovnulad, magram veraviTar<br />

SemTxvevaSi ver moviTmen<br />

Cemi aWareli xalxis<br />

erovnulobis Seviwroebis xarjze<br />

aWaraSi Turquli interesis<br />

galaRebas. es ar aris<br />

erovnuloba, es ar aris tolerantizmi,<br />

es ar aris keTilmezobloba<br />

Cveni mxridan _ maT<br />

ras verCiT, sargebloben Cveni<br />

ugunurebiT. roca dainaxavs<br />

igive Turqi, rom Cven varT<br />

Rirseuli, Cveni erovnebis,<br />

tradiciebis, wesebis, rac Segviqmnia<br />

im kulturisa da Rirebulebebis<br />

damcveli, cxadi<br />

gaxdeba, rom pativsacemi eri<br />

varT da maTTvisac gaadvildeba<br />

CvenTan urTierToba. igive<br />

damokidebuleba Seeqmneba nebismier<br />

qveyanas.<br />

Cven Tu Cveni erovnuloba,<br />

marTlmadidebloba, Cveni kultura<br />

ar davicaviT, verasodes<br />

davibrunebT samaCablosa da<br />

afxazeTs. teritoriebiT ar<br />

ganisazRvreba eris myofadoba,<br />

is ganisazRvreba kulturiTa<br />

da misi sulierebiT. Cven<br />

afxaz da os xalxTan erTad<br />

saukuneebi vleweT, gadavleweT<br />

da movediT dRemde. absoluturad<br />

dakargaven isini TavianT<br />

erovnulobas da kargaven ukve,<br />

rac maTi brali ki ara, Cveni<br />

bralia. Cven ver davicaviT Cveni<br />

erovnuloba da amitom ver<br />

davicaviT isini. Cven, qarTvelma<br />

erma ratom SevqmeniT imis<br />

safuZveli, rom osi da afxazi<br />

daecva sxva qveyanas, ruseTs,<br />

es xom Cveni bralia. xom unda<br />

SevignoT, rom maT rusis dasacavi<br />

araferi sWirT! Cems arsebaSi<br />

yovelTvis mjera da yovelTvis<br />

vambob, imitom davkargeT<br />

afxazebi da osebi, rom<br />

Cven davkargeT erovnulobis<br />

dacvis meqanizmi.<br />

saocaria, magram faqtia,<br />

rom raRac sxva Rirebulebebis<br />

pativiscema daviwyeT. televiziiT<br />

vismenT frazas `prioritetulia<br />

inglisuri<br />

ena.~ rogor SeiZleba,<br />

saqarTveloSi<br />

romelime ena prioritetuli<br />

iyos, garda<br />

qarTulisa; rogor<br />

SeiZleba saqar-<br />

TveloSi prioritetuli<br />

iyos raime,<br />

garda qarTuli adaT-wesebisa<br />

da qar-<br />

Tuli kulturisa!<br />

yvelafer qarTuls<br />

rom korozia SeuCnda<br />

da ufleba miveciT<br />

Semosuliyo<br />

ucxouri samsala,<br />

swored aman gamoiwvia<br />

afxazebisa da<br />

osebis qarTvelebisgan<br />

mowyveta. isini<br />

Cveni Zmebi arian da<br />

Cven Tu erovnulebi<br />

varT, maTi erovnebac Cveni erovnebis<br />

nawilia da maTi erovnebis<br />

gadarCena Cveni erovnebis<br />

Rirebulebebis gafrTxileba-<br />

Sia.<br />

me, mTeli Cemi arsebiT, mTeli<br />

Cemi SegnebiTa da potencialiT<br />

vdgavar erovnul sawyisebze,<br />

erovnuli ideis ganxorcielebis<br />

rigebSi da minda,<br />

rom mTelma saqarTvelom, Ti-<br />

Toeulma ojaxma gaaRviZos da<br />

gareT gamoitanos masSi arsebuli<br />

mTvlemare erovnuloba.<br />

damTavrda! kovzi nacarSi<br />

unda Cauvardes nebismier Savbnel<br />

Zalas da moispos erovnuli,<br />

Rirseuli adamianebis monaTvla<br />

avadmyofuri formuliT.<br />

qarTvelebi mxolod buxris<br />

win da Caketil oTaxSi<br />

xom ar varT, qarTvelebi unda<br />

viyoT saqarTvelos winaSec,<br />

mezoblebis winaSec da mTeli<br />

msoflios winaSec.<br />

Cveni saubari minda davasrulo<br />

markesis SesaniSnavi<br />

sityvebiT `me vemsaxurebi Cems<br />

samSoblos da ara Cemi samSoblos<br />

mTavrobas!~<br />

maia WeliZe

#22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

saerTo gazeTi<br />

15<br />

`saerTo gazeTis~ stumaria<br />

`kavkasiis helsinkis jgufis~<br />

erT-erTi damfuZnebeli sandro<br />

bregaZe<br />

_ batono sandro, iTqva,<br />

rom `kavkasiis helsinkis jgufis~<br />

bazaze fuZndeba axali<br />

erovnuli moZraoba `erovnulebi~,<br />

dasabnevi rom ar iyos, iqneb,<br />

ufro garkveviT ganmartoT.<br />

_ es moZraoba ar iqmneba<br />

konkretulad romelime organizaciis<br />

bazaze. oriode dReSi<br />

gamocxaddeba sainiciativo jgufis<br />

Semadgenloba da gamocxaddeba<br />

am moZraobis yrilobis<br />

dRec _ 30 maisi. moxdeba yvela<br />

im erovnuli Zalis konsolidireba,<br />

romelic mowadinebulia<br />

imisaTvis, rom saqarTveloSi<br />

aRdges is erovnuli suli,<br />

romelic gasuli saukunis<br />

pirvel naxevarSi ilia WavWava-<br />

Zis mier iqna aRorZinebuli,<br />

xolo meore naxevarSi zviad<br />

gamsaxurdiasa da merab kostavas<br />

mier. is suli, romelic,<br />

mogexsenebaT, Cvenda samwuxarod,<br />

jer SevardnaZis xelisuflebis<br />

ugunurma antiqar-<br />

Tulma da antixalxurma qmedebebma<br />

Cakla, xolo SemdgomSi,<br />

dRes arsebulma reJimma moindoma,<br />

rom sabolood gaenadgurebina<br />

erovnuli cnobiereba.<br />

erovnuli idea iqneba ZiriTadi<br />

mizani im didi sazogadoebrivi<br />

moZraobis Seqmnisa, romelic am<br />

etapze ase aris Cafiqrebuli,<br />

rom erqmeva moZraoba `erovnulebi~,<br />

SemdgomSi ki ukve gamocxaddeba<br />

konkretuli gegmebi,<br />

ra strategiiTa da taqtikiT<br />

imoqmedebs es sazogadoebrivi<br />

moZraoba.<br />

_ gamomdinare axalgazrda<br />

Taobebis erovnuli cnobierebis<br />

gaiSviaTebidan, sainteresoa,<br />

moZraobis asakobrivi Semadgenloba.<br />

_ mec mqonda daaxloebiT<br />

amgvari STabeWdileba axalgazrda<br />

Taobaze, magram, Cvenda sabednierod,<br />

ase ar aRmoCnda. mas<br />

Semdeg, rac kuluarulad ganvacxadeT,<br />

rom erovnul-ganman-<br />

Tavisuflebeli moZraobis yriloba<br />

tardeba, mTeli dRis ganmavlobaSi<br />

ar wydeba Cvens<br />

ofisSi satelefono zarebi da<br />

momsvleli xalxi, romlebic<br />

gamoxataven srul mxrdaWeras<br />

da mzadyofnas. moZraobaSi warmodgenili<br />

iqneba yvela Taobis<br />

warmomadgeneli. aris axalgazrdebis<br />

Zalian saintereso jgufi,<br />

arian Suaxnis adamianebi da<br />

xanSiSesulebic. es iqneba erTgvari<br />

sinTezi qarTveli sazogadoebisa,<br />

qarTveli erisa, romelmac<br />

unda ganaxorcielos is<br />

xalxis azriT<br />

roca ministri pleSu evrosabWoSi<br />

Sesvlas „apiarebda”, erT-erT sofelSi<br />

uTxres: evrosabWoSi Sesvla ki Zalian<br />

gvinda, magram pidarastoba savaldebulo<br />

rom xdeba, es cota gvaSfoTebso. evropis<br />

xaTriT ras ar izam kaci, magram mainc „texavs”.<br />

ideebi, romelic TiToeuli<br />

CvenganisTvis Zvirfasia.<br />

miuxedavad imisa, rom rogorc<br />

aRvniSne, zviad gamsaxurdias<br />

Semdgomi yvela xelisufali<br />

cdilobda erovnuli sulis<br />

Cakvlas, saqarTvelos mosaxleobis<br />

absoluturi umravlesobisTvis<br />

mainc misaRebi aris is<br />

konservatoruli ideebi, riTic<br />

aqamde movida qarTveli eri.<br />

mTeli am wlebis ganmavlobaSi<br />

ar iyo organizebuli es<br />

Sinagani ganwyoba, rac xels<br />

uSlida im ideebis ganxorcielebas,<br />

rac erovnul adamianebsa<br />

da erovnul jgufebs aqvT.<br />

swored es aris imis mizezic,<br />

rom dRes arsebuli xelisuflebis<br />

mier Tavs gvaqvs moxveuli<br />

is ideologia, romelic absoluturad<br />

ucxo aris TiTqmis<br />

yvela ojaxisTvis saqarTveloSi.<br />

es aris ucxoeTidan maxinji<br />

formebiT gadmonergili<br />

da xalxisTvis miwodebuli<br />

iseTi ideologia, romelsac 24<br />

saaTis ganmavlobaSi qadageben<br />

qarTuli televiziebi, e.w saxelisuflebo<br />

elita da is arasamTavrobo<br />

organizaciebi,<br />

romlebic saqarTvelos dauZinebeli<br />

mtrebis mier aris Seqmnili.<br />

_ romel arasamTavrobo<br />

organizaciebs gulisxmobT?<br />

_ erT-erTi TvalsaCino<br />

magaliTia `Tavisuflebis<br />

instituti~.<br />

Tqven mowme xarT<br />

imisa, rom `Tavisuflebis<br />

instituts~ mxrdamWeri<br />

faqtobrivad,<br />

ar hyavs saqarTveloSi<br />

da didi agresiaa<br />

maT mimarT, magram<br />

miuxedavad amisa,<br />

swored isini arian<br />

farTod reklamirebulebi<br />

da undaT warmoCena,<br />

rom maTi ideebia<br />

misaRebi.<br />

Cven vapirebT swored am mojadoebuli<br />

wris garRvevas,<br />

romelic aucileblad gairRveva<br />

kidec da TvalnaTeli gaxdeba<br />

TiToeuli adamianisTvis,<br />

rom erovnuli cnobiereba<br />

ualternativoa,<br />

rom is aris qarTveli<br />

eris gadarCenis<br />

erTaderTi gza da er-<br />

TaderTi Sansi.<br />

_ ranairad fiqrobT<br />

xalxisTvis xmis<br />

miwvdenas. Tbilis-<br />

Si kidev SeiZleba<br />

raRacnairad gavrceldes<br />

xma, magram<br />

saqarTvelo xom mxolod<br />

Tbilisi ar<br />

aris?<br />

_ samwuxarod, arsebuli<br />

xelisuflebisadmi<br />

opoziciurad<br />

sul male dafuZndeba saxalxo<br />

moZraoba `erovnulebi~,<br />

romlis kari yvela patrioti<br />

qarTvelisTvis Riia...<br />

ganwyobil adamianebsa da sxva-<br />

Ta Soris, opoziciaSi erovnul<br />

adamianebs aSkarad devnian<br />

eleqtronuli mediis warmomadgenlebi,<br />

magram<br />

30 maiss Seikribeba<br />

imdeni xalxi, davanaxebT<br />

yvelas, rom amdeni<br />

adamiani arc erTi<br />

sazogadoebrivi Tu<br />

sxva tipis organizaciis<br />

Tavyrilobas ar<br />

axsovs.<br />

sruli pasuxismgeblobiT<br />

SemiZlia giTxraT, rom ukve<br />

dawyebulia saxalxo moZraoba<br />

enTuziazmze, romelic sakmaod<br />

myaria. adamianebi modian mxo-<br />

vaimee, ra daarbies amferi am ruseTSi..<br />

mTeli dRe ro xvixvineben es Cemis<br />

trulaila miSoidebi?... 26 maisis darbevis<br />

mere vinmes darbeva ukvirT am Cemis Tvrametianebs?...<br />

amaTzea naTqmi: “ara, ti na svoi nos<br />

pasmatri elii”<br />

SevardnaZisdroindeli saarCevno kodeqsiT<br />

saarCevno siaSi amomrCevlis piradi<br />

nomeri fiqsirdeboda, xolo ar-<br />

Cevnebis dRes amomrCevlis piradobis<br />

mowmobis nomeri, es ori monacemi erTmaneTs unda<br />

damTxveoda.<br />

moqmedi saarCevno kodeqsiT, saarCevno<br />

siaSi piradi nomeria Setanili da ar-<br />

Cevnebis dResac mxolod piradi nomeri<br />

fiqsirdeba, amdenad kontrolis es meqanizmi<br />

gaqra. SesaZloa, winaswar Seavso monacemebi,<br />

amomrCevlis nacvlad xelic moawero da<br />

biuleteni gamoiyeno.<br />

lod da mxolod imisaTvis,<br />

rom gadaarCinon yvela is faseuloba,<br />

romlebic Zvirfasia<br />

qarTveli erisTvis.<br />

viRacas hgonia, rom Cveni faseulobebi<br />

es aris CamorCeniloba<br />

da raRac regresi, arada, piriqiTaa,<br />

dasavluri faseulobebi,<br />

realurad, TanxvedraSi aris<br />

im faseulobebTan, romelic qar-<br />

Tvel ers aqvs. amave dros minda<br />

vTqva, rom qarTveli eri da saqarTvelo<br />

yovelTvis iyo erTerTi<br />

didi qvakuTxedi im dasavluri<br />

civilizaciisa, romelic<br />

dRes esoden popularulia saqarTvelos<br />

politikur Tu sazogadoebriv<br />

wreebSi.<br />

Cven vfiqrobT, rom<br />

erovnuloba, romelic<br />

demokratiul principebze<br />

iqneba damyarebuli,<br />

iqneba erTaderTi<br />

gamosavali im<br />

Cixidan, romelSic vimyofebiT.<br />

saqarTveloSi arsebul re-<br />

Jims veravin da veranairi saSualebiT<br />

ver daamarcxebs Tu ar<br />

iarseba erovnulma doqtrinam,<br />

Tu ar iarseba erovnulma ideologiam<br />

da Tu ar moxda erovnuli<br />

ideologiis matarebeli<br />

adamianebis erT organizaciul<br />

struqturad Camoyalibeba da<br />

im erTi didi muStis Sekvra,<br />

romelic daamarcxebs yvela im<br />

ukeTurobas, rac garedan gvaqvs<br />

Tavsmoxveuli.<br />

aucileblad aRvniSnav, rom<br />

im e.w liberalur Rirebulebebs,<br />

romelsac warmogvisaxaven<br />

maTi saqarTveloSi damnergavebi,<br />

aranairi saerTo ar aqvs<br />

klasikur liberalizmTan, marqsistul-leninuri<br />

ideebia da<br />

amitom mstovrebs vuwodeb maT.<br />

e.w liberalebis Zalisxmeva mimarTulia<br />

iqiT, rom iarsebon<br />

mxolod maT da aravin sxvam,<br />

anu isini arian bolSevikebis<br />

gzis gamgrZeleblebi, amitom,<br />

modiT, davarqvaT is, ranic<br />

arian, neobolSevikebi, neokomkavSirlebi...<br />

Cven unda davanaxoT xalxs,<br />

rom arsebobs seriozuli ideologiuri<br />

alternativa, erovnuli<br />

ideologia, romelsac absoluturad<br />

yvelafris Secvla<br />

SeuZlia saqarTveloSi ukeTesobisaken.<br />

dasavleT evropaSi ukve<br />

dawyebulia procesebi da safrangeTis<br />

bolo saprezidento<br />

arCevnebmac daadastura, rom<br />

erovnuloba iwevs wina planze.<br />

CvenTan, miuxedavad imisa, rom<br />

sakmaod bevri mteri hyavs<br />

erovnulobas, bevrad ukeT aris<br />

saqme im mxriv, rom mainc myarad<br />

dgas. nebismieri qarTvelis<br />

ojaxSi rom SebrZandeT, dainaxavT<br />

tradiciul qarTul ojaxs,<br />

romlisTvisac mTavari<br />

principia erovnuloba.<br />

Tu Cven miviRebT mxolod<br />

cvlilebas, rodesac es reJimi<br />

Seicvleba da mis adgilze mova<br />

imave ideologiis, warsulSi<br />

maTTan axlos mdgomi pilitikuri<br />

Zala, es iqneba<br />

fasaduri cvlileba,<br />

romelic arafer<br />

kargs ar moutans<br />

saqarTvelos.<br />

_ TqvenTvis miu-<br />

Rebel politikur<br />

Zalebs ras upirebT.<br />

_ araviTar Sem-<br />

TxvevaSi ar vfiqrobT,<br />

rom unda moikveTon<br />

an aikrZalon.<br />

unda iarsebon<br />

memarjveneebmac, memarcxeneebmac,<br />

centristebmac,<br />

liberalebmac,<br />

yvela politikurma<br />

Zalam da<br />

qarTvelma erma unda<br />

gaakeTos maT Soris<br />

arCevani.<br />

_ mkvidrdeba termini `qar-<br />

Tuli sazogadoeba,~ rogor<br />

ggoniaT, swori formaa SerCeuli?<br />

_ Cemi Rrma rwmeniT, es unda<br />

Seicvalos formiT `qarTveli<br />

eri~, romelic zviad gamsaxurdias<br />

Semdeg politikuri<br />

leqsikonidan nel-nela amovarda.<br />

ki, batono, `sazogadoeba~<br />

kargi aris, magram uZvelesi<br />

tradiciebisa da kulturis<br />

mqone qarTveli eri imsaxurebs<br />

imas, rom vilaparakoT qarTvel<br />

erze.<br />

_ marTalia, CemTvis gaugebaria,<br />

magram iTqva, rom saqar-<br />

TveloSi mcxovreb sxva eris<br />

warmomadgenlebs uxerxulobas<br />

Seuqmnis qarTvel erze xazgasma.<br />

_ me vfiqrob, rom sxva<br />

eris warmomadgenlebs es ar<br />

ewyinebaT, imitom, rom is somexic,<br />

azerbaijanelic, afxazic<br />

da osic imave eris mTlianoba-<br />

Si moiazreba, romelSic nebismieri<br />

qarTveli.<br />

maia WeliZe

16 saerTo gazeTi #22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

rusTavelis TeatrSi, sadac akaki<br />

xoravas suli trialebs, viRac<br />

malaizieli saWmels akeTebs, ase<br />

vuvliT Cvens erovnul Rirsebas?!<br />

interviu dima jaianTa.<br />

_ modiT, batono dima, visaubroT<br />

afxazeTze. ramdenime<br />

dRis win prezidentma uxerxul<br />

konteqstSi moixsenia<br />

saqarTvelos es ulamazesi<br />

kuTxe.<br />

_ saerTod afxazeTTan mimarTebaSi<br />

amaT gamousworebeli<br />

danaSauli aqvT Cadenili.<br />

daukvirdiT, afxazeTs saer-<br />

Tod aRar axseneben an Tu axseneben,<br />

jobs, saerTod ar eTqvaT<br />

raime. marTalia, erTi<br />

mowvevis parlamentis wevri<br />

viyavi, magram imas mainc vaxerxebdiT,<br />

rom yoveldRiurad<br />

Segvexesebina Cveni tkivili<br />

afxazeTi saqarTvelos mosaxleobisTvis<br />

cxonebuli Tamaz<br />

nadareiSvilis dros iyo<br />

afxazeTze aqtiurad saubari.<br />

parlamentis sxdoma afxaze-<br />

Tis sakiTxiT iwyeboda maSin,<br />

axla Tu gagigiaT afxazeTze<br />

seriozuli laparaki? ara,<br />

xom? iciT, ratom? amaT hgoniaT,<br />

rom Cven vakuumSi varT.<br />

araferi viciT da verafers<br />

vxvdebiT, sinamdvileSi yvelam<br />

kargad viciT afxazebis da<br />

qarTvelebis erTad yofnis gasaRebi<br />

ruseTTan normaluri<br />

urTierToba romaa.<br />

_ batono dima, axlaxan<br />

prezidentma ganacxada moviWri<br />

organoebs afxazeTis da<br />

cxinvalis regionis sanacvlodo...<br />

_ amaze komentari rogor<br />

SeiZleba, kaci xom xedavT<br />

agoniaSia! avadmyofi da samkurnaloa!<br />

vis ugzavnis Tavis<br />

asos, sul ar momwons arc<br />

medvedevi da arc putini. omi<br />

gamoviare, Cemi TvaliT maqvs<br />

yvelaferi nanaxi, sad iyvnen<br />

eseni, Tundac saakaSvili im<br />

dros? sad iyvnen saerTod es<br />

garewrebi? ician sad aris<br />

afxazeTi? Cems SvilTan er-<br />

Tad vibrZodi ruseTis winaaRmdeg!<br />

ramdeni adamianis sicocxle<br />

Seiwina im omma! ruseTs<br />

maswavlian eseni? ase<br />

gvinda afxazeTis dabruneba?<br />

viciT ruseTis xrikebi, magram<br />

msoflioSi pirveli qveynis<br />

sagareo saqmeTa ministri<br />

rom gafrTxilebs, provokacias<br />

ar ayveo da Sen Sensas rom<br />

ar iSli, visi bralia? rogor<br />

SeiZleba atomis mefe qveyanas<br />

omi mougo? konstantine gamsaxurdias<br />

aqvs genialurad<br />

naTqvami: `ers, romelsac nacarqeqias<br />

zRapari aqvs, gada-<br />

Seneba ar uweriao~. ras gulisxmobda<br />

didi konstantine?<br />

_ moqnilobas, Wkuas, xerxs.<br />

_ samwuxaroa, rom xelovnebis<br />

nacvlad politikaze<br />

gviwevs saubari.<br />

_ xelovnebaze da Teatrze<br />

rogor vilaparakoT, roca<br />

Cemi nacionaluri Teatri,<br />

rusTavelis, aseT mdgomareobaSia.<br />

inglisSi, Seqspiris TeatrSi<br />

SegiSveben da cekvas an<br />

sxva sanaxaobebs dagadgmevineben?<br />

an kulinariul gakveTilebs<br />

Cagatarebineben? an niWiers<br />

gamoavlenen? ar var imis<br />

winaaRmdegi, magram aseTi RonisZiebebisTvis<br />

sxva darbazebis<br />

monaxva SeiZleba. iq simfoniur<br />

orkestrsac ar uSveben!<br />

imitom rom is Seqspiris<br />

Teatria! amas Tavi davaneboT,<br />

Teatridan uSveb msoflioSi<br />

pirvel reJisors da sxva razea<br />

saubari? es gadacemebi<br />

dramatul TeatrebSi ar unda<br />

tardebodes, amisTvis gvaqvs<br />

sxva darbazebi. magram es yvelaferi<br />

Segnebulad keTdeba,<br />

radgan robert sturua radgan<br />

gavuSviT, axla Teatrs<br />

bolomde CavwixlavT. imitomac<br />

kidev, rom rusTavelis<br />

Teatri biZina ivaniSvilis gadarCenilia.<br />

gaxsovT, Teatris<br />

Senoba mTlianad amortizebuli<br />

iyo. ramdenime dRis win<br />

akaki xoravas saflavze viyavi<br />

da movubodiSe, ver mogiareTmeTqi.<br />

misi suli rusTavelis<br />

TeatrSi trialebs da iq vi-<br />

Rac malaizieli saWmels ake-<br />

Tebs, viRac striptizs cekvavs.<br />

sad kaco, sadac Cveni<br />

Teatraluri korifeebi gamodiodnen?<br />

ase vuvliT Cvens<br />

warsuls, Cvens siamayes? erovnul<br />

Rirsebas?<br />

vfiqrob, dRes urTierTlanZRvis<br />

dro ar aris. mec<br />

bevri ar momwons opoziciaSi,<br />

magram Cemgan kritika aravis<br />

gaugia. dRes qvebis Segrovebis<br />

droa, rodesac yvelam er-<br />

Tad unda SevagrovoT, dawyebuli<br />

biZina ivaniSvilidan,<br />

damTavrebuli nino burjanaZe-<br />

Ti. erTad unda davdgeT da<br />

vakeToT saqme.<br />

gia burduli<br />

eTer xviCia erT-erTi maTgania,<br />

vinac saqarTvelodan ucxoeTSi<br />

wasvla ekonomikuri problemebis<br />

mosagvareblad gadawyvita.<br />

didi xani ar aris, rac saberZneTSi<br />

`saerTo gazeTis~ erTguli<br />

mkiTxveli, qalbatoni eTeri<br />

TbilisSi dabrunda, amjerad<br />

mudmivad sacxovreblad da oriode<br />

dRis win redaqciaSic gvestumra.<br />

ra iyo Camosvlis realuri<br />

mizezi da rogori Cans aTenidan<br />

saqarTvelo? am da sxva sakiTxebze<br />

eTer xviCia gvesaubreba.<br />

_ saberZneTidanac kargad<br />

Canda, rom saqarTveloSi yvelaferi<br />

ise ar iyo, rogorc ambobdnen.<br />

amitomac meubnebodnen _<br />

xom ar Cqarob, jer, iqneb, wasvla<br />

ar Rirdeso, magram me dRes<br />

aq var da saqarTvelodan wasuli<br />

uamravi adamiani elodeba axla<br />

`saerTo gazeTs~, rom gaigon,<br />

sinamdvileSi ra xdeba da<br />

ra perspeqtiva elodeba ucxoe-<br />

Tidan dabrunebul adamians Tavis<br />

samSobloSi.<br />

sanam wamovidodi, ramdenime<br />

xniT adre saberZneTSi saqarTvelodan<br />

umaRlesi Tanamdebobis<br />

pirebi Camovidnen. ise gvelaparaknen,<br />

gvegona saqarTveloSi,<br />

ukve samoTxe iyo. bevrma gadawyvita<br />

maSin yvelafris mitoveba<br />

da samSobloSi dabruneba dabrunebis<br />

SemTxvevaSi 3000 evro-<br />

Ti daxmarebac cota ar aris.<br />

saberZneTSi piradad koba<br />

subelianisgan movismine, rom<br />

swored es saministro gascemda<br />

Tanxebs da rom Camovedi pirdapir<br />

batoni kobas uwyebaSi mivedi.<br />

3000 evros nacvlad 2000<br />

evro SemomTavazes, _ daniis<br />

programa, romelic 3000 iTvaliswinebda,<br />

Seicvala, Tanac,<br />

Cven yvelas ver vexmarebiTo.<br />

ramdenimejer mivakiTxe saministros,<br />

magram meubnebian ise rogorc<br />

erT mSvenier qarTul<br />

filmSia, `gekuTvniT, magram ar<br />

gekuTvniT~.<br />

biznesgegma warmoadgineT,<br />

soflis meurneobis ganviTarebisTviso,<br />

holandiur Zroxebze<br />

da germanul Rorebzea laparaki,<br />

hibriduli simindis ar iyos.<br />

fuls ar aZleven da undaT aCvenon,<br />

rom SeuZines ori Rori,<br />

erTi Zroxa fuli ar modis Cvenamde,<br />

sadRac qreba. ager guSin<br />

miTxres, rom momcemen, oRond<br />

jer ara. amasobaSi arCevnebi iqneba,<br />

mere evrokavSiri an gamoagzavnis,<br />

an uars ityvis. ai, am<br />

tyuilebs gaurbis xalxi, ga-<br />

WirvebasTan erTad tyuils da<br />

uimedobas gaurbis.<br />

me mainc mgonia, rom did<br />

tyuilzea yvelaferi agebuli.<br />

Zalian did farisevlobasa da<br />

tyuilze da vwerdiT amaze saberZneTSi<br />

gamomaval qarTul gazeTSi<br />

`eladaSic~. saqme isaa,<br />

rom ucxoeTSi yvela sakuTari<br />

problemebis gamoa wasuli da<br />

qveynis momavali bevrs ar awuxebs.<br />

saakaSvils marTaven misi<br />

patronebi, iseve, rogorc qar-<br />

Tul saelCoebs da sakonsulebs<br />

marTavs es xelisufleba ucxoeTSi.<br />

gaigos am xelisuflebam me,<br />

eTer xviCia, ara var misi mteri.<br />

aramed var opoziciaSi da<br />

msurs arCevnebis gziT Seicvalos<br />

xelisufleba. ramdenime<br />

wuTis win damirekes aTenidan.<br />

gugunebs opozicia:<br />

saberZneTi<br />

berZnebisTvis! moiTxoven<br />

_ ucxoelebi<br />

gavidnen saberZneTidan.<br />

saqarTveloSi<br />

gaubedavs vinme<br />

msgavs manifestacias<br />

erovnul<br />

umciresobebs? is<br />

ki ara, xelisufleba<br />

kanonebs iRebs<br />

erovnuli umciresobebis<br />

dasacavad.<br />

saqarTveloSi ki nelnela<br />

qarTvelebi viricxebiT<br />

umciresobaSi. umciresobaSi<br />

myofma osma da afxazma wagvar-<br />

Tva teritoriebi da umciresobaSi<br />

myofi somxebi da azerbaijanelebi<br />

iTxoven teritoriebs.<br />

mivxedoT Cvens qveyanas, marto<br />

erTi klasikosis berad aRkveca<br />

ar niSnavs saerTo sinanuls,<br />

Cven bevri ram davaSaveT<br />

erovnuli xelisuflebis wina-<br />

Se, kerZod, zviad gamsaxurdias<br />

winaSe, romelic ambobda: saxelmwifo<br />

dotaciaze vtoveb<br />

jandacvas da ganaTlebas, radgan<br />

me janmrTeli da ganaTlebuli<br />

qarTvelebi mWirdebao.<br />

aseT kacs aRudga iaraRiT inteligenciis<br />

warmomadgenlebi da<br />

axla aris Cvens qveyanaSi isev<br />

riaria.<br />

axlovdeba 26 maisi, romelic<br />

merab kostavas dabadebis<br />

da zviad gamsaxurdias prezidentad<br />

arCevis dRea. Cemi megobrebi<br />

agroveben Tanxas saberZneTSi.<br />

vapirebT orive didi patriotis<br />

saflavze mivideT da<br />

Rirseulad mivagoT pativi maT<br />

xsovnas, ise rogorc maT sulebs<br />

ekadreba.<br />

ar viciT, ra iqneba 26 maiss,<br />

magram ar SeiZleba ase, ivaniSvili<br />

iqiT atarebs Sekrebas,<br />

burjanaZe gabrazda da CaSala<br />

filarmoniaSi Sexvedra... vinc<br />

ra unda, is Tqvas, SarSan 26 maiss<br />

nino burjanaZe gmiri iyo,<br />

da xelisuflebamac da opoziacamac<br />

am dRis mimarT meti pasuxismgebloba<br />

gamoiCinos. sxvanairi<br />

dRea 26 maisi saqarTvelos-<br />

Tvis. da bolos da bolos samarTlebrivi<br />

Sefaseba unda mieces<br />

90-iani wlebis movlenebs.<br />

aTeulobiT gulanTebuli adamiania<br />

gadaxvewili saqarTvelodan<br />

erovnuli xelisuflebis mxardaWerisTvis<br />

da maTi dabruneba<br />

waadgeba qveyanas.<br />

Cven vuRalateT erovnul xelisuflebas,<br />

Cven vuRalateT<br />

wavediT TavmoyvareobaSelaxulebi<br />

saqarTvelodan, davbrundiT da<br />

kvlav Tavmoyvareobas gvilaxaven<br />

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />

internetSi<br />

www.saertogazeti.ge<br />

SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />

sakuTar Tavs, amitom, rac ar<br />

unda moxdes, arCevnebi da a.S.<br />

yvelaferi absurdi iqneba.<br />

aseTi cxovreba ar dagvidgeboda,<br />

metad gonivrulad rom<br />

vyofiliyaviT 90-ian wlebSi.<br />

axla Tbilisi Sendeba, magram<br />

visTvis? Cems saxlTan axlos<br />

umweoTa dasaxmareblad ufaso<br />

supi rigdeba, yofili mecniermuSakebi<br />

am sasadilos xSiri<br />

stumrebi arian.<br />

me ki, erT Cveulebriv qarTvels,<br />

rac saberZneTidan Camovedi,<br />

arc erT uwyebaSi ilias,<br />

akakis da iakobis eniT ar melaparakebian,<br />

dayenebuli imijiT,<br />

dayenebuli metyvelebiT, ucxouri<br />

aqcentiT metyveleben Cveni<br />

axalgazrdebi, romlebic Sinaganad<br />

ar arian qarTvelebi... amas<br />

saberZneTSi arc erTi berZeni<br />

ar gaakeTebs. Cemi TvaliT maqvs<br />

nanaxi berZnebis damokidebuleba<br />

saxelmwifos mimarT. maT saber-<br />

ZneTi berZenisTvis surT. Cven<br />

erTxel vTqviT _`saqarTvelo<br />

qarTvelebisTviso~ da lamisaa<br />

gadagvayoles amas. saberZneTSi<br />

vin gabedavs, rac gaakeTes amas<br />

winaT parlamentis win azerbaijanelebma,<br />

rac uwodes jondi<br />

baRaTurias, romelime qveyanaSi<br />

umciresoba amas gabedavda? ratom<br />

irRveva Cems qveyanaSi Cemi<br />

uflebebi?<br />

wavediT TavmoyvareobaSelaxulebi<br />

saqarTvelodan, davbrundiT<br />

da kvlav Tavmoyvareobas<br />

gvilaxaven. saqarTvelos xelisufleba<br />

qarTveli xalxis<br />

mtrad aris qceuli da Cemi azriT,<br />

ase Zlieri saxelmwifo<br />

ver aSendeba.<br />

ana vadaWkoria

#22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

saerTo gazeTi<br />

17<br />

2 wlis saqarTvelos prezidentma<br />

piroba dado, rom mewarmeebs<br />

ukanonod gadaxdili dRgs<br />

xan ukan daubrunebdnen, magram<br />

es piroba, rogorc mravali sxva,<br />

ausrulebeli darCa, radgan<br />

finansTa saministros amisaTvis<br />

saxsrebi arasodes ar gaaCnia.<br />

prezidentma mewarmeebs isic<br />

axara, rom dasabrunebeli (dRgze<br />

gadaxdili) biujetSi unda<br />

gaweriliyo arc es gakeTebula,<br />

mewarmeebs erTaderTi gamosavali<br />

rCebaT _ daTanxmdnen finansTa<br />

saministros SemoTavazebul<br />

CaTvlis wesebze.<br />

saakaSvilis dRg-Si gadaxdilis<br />

ukan dabrunebaze gacemulma<br />

pirobebma specialistebs aTqmevina,<br />

rom xelisufleba aRiarebs<br />

damatebiTi Rirebulebis gadasaxadebs.<br />

`mrewvelebis~ lideri zurab<br />

tyemalaZe acxadebs, rom sagadasaxado<br />

kodeqsSi dRg-s gadasaxadis<br />

dabrunebis procedura gamartivda.<br />

magram problema gaxda<br />

Tanxis dabruneba. eqspert irakli<br />

SaviSvilis ganmartebiT, bevri<br />

mewarme dRg-s dabrunebis<br />

moTxovnisagan Tavs ikavebs. _<br />

eSiniaT maT kompaniebSi Semosavlebis<br />

samsaxurma egzekucia ar<br />

Caataros. amis gamo midis daTmobaze<br />

gaakeTos CaTvlebi.<br />

kidev erT eqsperts, daviT<br />

narmanias miaCnia, rom dRg-s dabrunebis<br />

procesi usaSvelod<br />

iweleba, mewarmeebs ki sakuTari<br />

uflebebis dacvis aranairi sa-<br />

Sualeba (sakanonmdeblo doneze)<br />

ar gaaCniaT.<br />

ekonomikis specialistTa<br />

ganmartebiT, kanoniT dRg-s gadasaxadi<br />

erT TveSi unda dabrundes,<br />

magram valebis darRvevisaTvis<br />

saxelmwifos aranairi<br />

sanqciebi ar ekisreba. saxelmwifo<br />

da mewarmeebi araTanabar pirobebSi<br />

arian.<br />

daucveli dasazRvevebi<br />

xelisuflebam dazRveulebis<br />

uflebebis dasacavad,<br />

qmediTi struqturebi dRemde<br />

ver (an ar) Seqmna. beneficiarebis<br />

didi nawili saxelmwifo<br />

programebidan<br />

ezRveva. aq ki monopolizmi<br />

ikveTeba, askvnian eqspertebi<br />

da amtkiceben, rom amgvari<br />

damokidebuleba xarisxzec<br />

axdens gavlenas.<br />

is, rom sadazRvevo seqtorSi,<br />

yvelaferi wesrigSi<br />

araa, prezidenti saakaSvilic<br />

aRiarebs. xSirad manipulaciebis<br />

Sedegad, dazRveulma<br />

ar icis, ras dafaravs<br />

dazRveva. `amitom Tama-<br />

Sis axal wesebs sTavazobT,<br />

imisaTvis, rom sadazvevom<br />

dazRveuli ar moatyuos~. _<br />

acxadebs nacionalebis lideri.<br />

sadazRvevoebSi ki acxadeben,<br />

rom isini mosaxleobas ar atyueben.<br />

mzRvevelebis mimarT negatiuri<br />

ganwyobilebis mizezi is<br />

aris, rom mosaxleoba sadazRvevoebisagn<br />

iTxovs ufro mets,<br />

vidre maTi polisi iTvaliswinebs.<br />

eqspertTa ganmartebiT, sadazRvevoebisadmi<br />

dazRveulebis<br />

undobloba ganpirobebulia imiT,<br />

rom xelisuflebam Tavi ver (an<br />

ar) moaba efeqturi mediaciis<br />

samsaxuris Seqmnas. sasamarTlo-<br />

Si davebi TveobiT iweleba. sar-<br />

Celis Semtanma biujetSi sadao<br />

Tanxis 3 procenti unda gadaixados.<br />

amas saadvokato xarjebi<br />

emateba. amdeni nervebi da fuladi<br />

saxsrebi saCivris SemtanT<br />

ara aqvT. yvelaferi ki ubralo,<br />

prezidenti sityvebiT<br />

umuSevrobas ebrZvis da<br />

axal sagareo valebs iRebs<br />

ufulo moqalaqis sawinaaRmdegod<br />

wydeba.<br />

komunaluri momsaxurebis<br />

tarifebs iseTive dacva<br />

sWirdeba, rogorc<br />

puris fass, radganac<br />

isinic pirveladi<br />

moxmarebis sagnebia<br />

vidre saakaSvils Tbilisis<br />

sakrebulos Tavmjdomared air-<br />

Cevdnen, Tu naTelaSvilis SemweobiT<br />

daniSnavdnen, pirobas debda,<br />

rom dedaqalaqSi gazi, eleqtroenergia,<br />

wyliT momarageba,<br />

dasufTaveba erT TeTriTac ar<br />

gaZvirdeboda. igive pirobas iZleoda<br />

sakrebulos Tavmjdomaris<br />

postzec. `vard-ekalosnebis~<br />

xelisuflebaSi mosvlis<br />

Semdeg saakaSvilis dapirebebi<br />

daaviwyda. man mosaxleobas `qamrebis<br />

moWerisaken, mouwoda da<br />

daiwyo fasebis `gaTavisufleba~.<br />

pirvel rigSi, mateba pirveladi<br />

moxmarebis sagnebs daetyo.<br />

avadsaxsenebeli 2003 wlidan<br />

wylis tarifi 200 procentiT,<br />

xolo bunebrivi airis 250<br />

procentiT gaizarda. dasufTavebis<br />

gadasaxadma arnaxul zRvars,<br />

525 procents gadaaWarba.<br />

gansakuTrebulia eleqtroenergiaze<br />

tarifis zrdis SemTxveva.<br />

is, rom deni ar unda gaZvirebuliyo<br />

saqarTvelos sakonstitucio<br />

sasamarTlos (#1-3-<br />

136.30.12.02) gadawyvetilebaSi<br />

iqna Cadebuli, magram vardosnebis<br />

struqturulma danamatma _<br />

maregulirebelma komisiam yovelives<br />

ugulebelyofa moaxdina<br />

da eleqtroenergiaze tarifi<br />

nel-neli awevebiT 100 procentiT<br />

gazarda amasac ar dayabulda<br />

da tarifi samomxmareblo safexurebad<br />

dahyo, ramac safasuris<br />

gaZvireba 150 procentamde<br />

aswia. iuristebis ganmartebiT,<br />

sakonstitucio sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis<br />

ugulebelyofa<br />

(winamdebaris anulirebis gare-<br />

Se) mZime saxis sisxlis samarTlis<br />

danaSaulia da isjeba soliduri<br />

vadiT patimrobis aRkve-<br />

TiT.<br />

sityviT sxva,<br />

saqmiT _ sxva<br />

`nacionalebi~ da maTi lideri<br />

cxare cremlebiT tirian umuSevarTa<br />

bedze da gulSi mjiRs<br />

icemen (mxolod arCevnebis win),<br />

rom siRaribesa da umuSevrobas<br />

aRmofxvrian. maT am kuTxiT gadadgmul<br />

nabijad miaCniaT dasaqmebis<br />

`nacmouri~ proeqti, magram<br />

specialistebs mosalodneli<br />

dasaqmeba droebiTad da wina saarCevno<br />

piarad aqvT warmodgenili<br />

da Tvlian, rom seriozul<br />

Tanxebs uazrod yrian.<br />

specialistebis ganmartebiT,<br />

rodesac `nacionalebis~ mTeli<br />

elita dasaqmebis problemebze<br />

msjelobs, `Tavisufal asociaciaTa<br />

kavSirma~ centralur saarCevno<br />

(`sareferendumo~) komisiaSi<br />

gancxadeba Seitana moTxovniT,<br />

miecaT misTvis ufleba<br />

Caetarebina referendumi umuSevarTaTvis<br />

Semweobis gacemis aucileblobis<br />

Taobaze.<br />

`nacionalebis~ xeldasmulma<br />

da `vardosnebiT~ dakompleqtebulma<br />

organom (cskom) moTxovnis<br />

gamcemT dokumentaciis registraciaze<br />

uari uTxra.<br />

im motiviT, rom sareferendumo<br />

sakiTxi (umuSevarTaTvis<br />

Semweobebis gacema)<br />

ar warmoadgens saxelmwifoebrivi<br />

mniSvnelobis<br />

sakiTxs.<br />

umuSevarTaTvis Semweobebis<br />

gacema, maTTvis<br />

sayovelTaod aRiarebuli<br />

daxmarebis formaa. amgvar<br />

daxmarebebs sxvadasxva<br />

saxelmwifo sxvadasxva<br />

vadebiTa da odenobiT<br />

gascemen. dausaqmebelTaTvis<br />

daxmarebebs postsab-<br />

WoTa qveynebSic iZlevian.<br />

amgvar daxmarebebs adre<br />

saqarTveloSic gascemdnen.<br />

Semweobebs iRebdnen<br />

Sromis birJaze daregistrirebuli,<br />

magram `nacionalebma~<br />

birJa `SevardnaZis gadmonaSTad~<br />

CaTvales da gaauqmes.<br />

yvela registrirebul umuSevars<br />

Seuwyda saxelmwifosgan<br />

isedac mizeruli daxmareba.<br />

marionet petriaSvilsac<br />

ki Sercxva<br />

umuSevarTa mravalricxovan<br />

armias ar SeerTebis msurvelTa<br />

arc ise dalxenili samuSao garemo-pirobebi<br />

aqvT. gansakuTrebiT<br />

es xelisuflebis mxridanmewarmeebis<br />

iZulebiT Tavs moxveul<br />

dasaqmebulebs exebaT. Catarebuli<br />

gamokvlevebiT, am kategoriis<br />

xalxs umetes SemTxvevebSi<br />

umkacresad eqcevian. diliT<br />

dagvianebaze an samsaxuridan<br />

ramdenime wuTiT adre wasvlaze<br />

sjian _ ZiriTadad, xelfasebidan<br />

Tanxebs aWrian. gaigivebulia<br />

arasapatio da sapatio<br />

gacdenebi. am SemTxvevaSic ekonomikuri<br />

sanqciebi moqmedebs.<br />

rogorc irkveva, xelisuflebis<br />

rekomendaciiT, dasaqmebulebs<br />

sxvaTa msgavsad aranormirebuli<br />

samuSao dRis grafikiT<br />

amuSaveben. xSirad gamohyavT<br />

dasvenebisa da sadResaswaulo<br />

dReebSi, yovelgvari damatebiTi<br />

anazRaurebis gareSe.<br />

xSir SemTxvevebSi, ufrosoba<br />

axaldasaqmebulebs Tanxebis dazogvis<br />

momizezebiT, civ, nestian<br />

gausaZlisTan miaxloebul pirobebs<br />

uqmnis.<br />

seriozuli problemaa Sromis<br />

anazRaurebis mxrivac. saqar-<br />

TveloSi saerTod dasaqmebulTa<br />

saSualo wliuri xelfasi 7200<br />

laria. mkvlevarTa ganmartebiT,<br />

am maCvenebels ZiriTadad `qaCaven~<br />

maRali Tanamdebobis pirTa<br />

uzomod gaberili xelfasebi,<br />

gansakuTrebiT saxelmwifo seqtorSi,<br />

Cveni maCvenebeli mizerulia,<br />

Tundac krizisul mdgomareobaSi<br />

myof saberZneTSi dasaqmebulebTan<br />

SedarebiT _ 29<br />

waago `sarkom~ arCevnebi<br />

da Rirseuladac<br />

miiRo damarcxeba ar<br />

eZaxis aravis bnel Zalebs<br />

mumiebs da moRalateebs. Cevenma<br />

maRalma demokratiis Suquram<br />

CarTos televizori da cota<br />

mainc iswavlos evropelebisgan<br />

rom gadagvWama Tavi Tavisi<br />

bilwsityvaobiT.<br />

sarwmuno wyarodan miviReT<br />

informacia merabiSvils<br />

ganucxadebia<br />

quTaisSi regionalur<br />

TaTbirze: `ToTo bavSvic dasaWeri<br />

rom gagvixdes, unda daviWiroT,<br />

es arCevnebi usikvdilod<br />

unda movigoTo“<br />

vaimeeee... ninooo WeliZeee...xaTunaaa<br />

Wyoi-<br />

Zeee... vaxo... vaxo sad<br />

xar, sixaruliZe...fsiqiatrebo,<br />

xo xarT, ami deda vatire,<br />

uSveleT am Cemis trulaialas<br />

rame Tvara gadelda na-<br />

200 evro. CvenTan saerTo maCvenebelze<br />

bevrad dabalia xelisuflebis<br />

mier dasaqmebulTa<br />

anazRaureba.<br />

damsaqmebelTan odnavi pretenziis<br />

SemTxvevaSi mepatrones<br />

pasuxi mzada aqvs _ ar mogwons,<br />

wadi. Seucvleli aravinaa. iZulebiT<br />

Tavsmoxveul dasaqmebulebs<br />

xelisuflebis SiSiT,<br />

ucebve ganTavisuflebas ver ubedaven.<br />

samagierod, iseT pirobebs<br />

uqmnian, rom man TviTon daweros<br />

gancxadeba wasvlaze.<br />

specialistTa gancxadebiT,<br />

ar arsebobs mepatronis Semakavebeli<br />

araviTari kanoni muSa-mosamsaxureebi<br />

sakanonmdeblo doneze<br />

arian daucveli. isini<br />

mflobelebTan mimarTebaSi dakanonebul<br />

monur mdgomareobaSi<br />

imyofebian da yovelives itanen<br />

samuSaos dakargvis SiSiTa da<br />

kabaluri Sromis kodeqsis gamo.<br />

kanonmdebloba imdenad miaxloebulia<br />

baton-ymuri epoqis<br />

kanonebTan, rom TviT `nacebis~<br />

xeldasmulma profkavSiris Tavmjdomarem<br />

petriaSvilma piar<br />

aqciaze `mSromelTa damkabalebeli~<br />

saqarTvelos Sromis kodeqsi<br />

Sekrebili xalxis Tvalwin<br />

daxia, magram petriaSvilis gundis<br />

saqmianoba amis iqiT aRar<br />

wasula. rogorc gairkva aqciis<br />

dRe yofila msoflio profesiuli<br />

kavSirebis mier gamocxadebuli<br />

`Tanadgomis dRe~. petriaSvilmac,<br />

ubralod, daamTxvia<br />

aqcia am dRes da saerTaSoriso<br />

profkavSirul moZraobas daanaxa,<br />

rom igi da mis xelSi uaRresad<br />

dakninebuli saqarTvelos<br />

profkavSirebi jer kidev cocxlebi<br />

arian.<br />

zaza bilixoZe<br />

xalxis azriT<br />

metnavaT da bodavs, bodaaaavs,<br />

gazafxulze uWirs, etyoba, Zaan.<br />

erTma sakrebulos wevrma<br />

vanidan (Sinauria)<br />

ase miTxra, rom 500-de<br />

adamiani yavdaT Camoyvanili<br />

vanidan, iqiraves avtobusebi<br />

da daxarjes uamravi resursi..<br />

mSier xalxs 2 milioniani Sadrevani<br />

anaxes.. vai, Cvens patrons,<br />

ra...<br />

gia roiniSvili, nugzar<br />

ergemliZe da aha,<br />

esec miemateba. asrulda<br />

mamuliCas natvra,<br />

ukve parlamentari coli eyoleba.<br />

sam xmaSi imRereben exla<br />

parlamentSi. rava meilxens miSiko<br />

da biZo? daiSaqrebian sul,<br />

angelozebi gegoneba rom ar icode,<br />

vinc arian. iqedan roiniSvili<br />

Semohkravs, aqedan nugzara<br />

biWi da lelas venacvale, daagvirgvinebs.

18 saerTo gazeTi #22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

sisxlis jgufi individualuri<br />

niSania, romelic erovnebis,<br />

sqesisa da asakis ganurCevlad,<br />

yvela adamians axasiaTebs.<br />

igi arapirdapir gansazRvravs<br />

organizmis zogad mdgomareobas,<br />

mis kvebiT upiratesobasa da ama<br />

Tu im daavadebebisadmi dadebi-<br />

Tad ganwyobas.<br />

rodesac cnobilia daavadebaTa<br />

nusxa, romelic sisxlis<br />

romelime jgufis mqoneebs yvelaze<br />

xSirad axasiaTebs, es Zalian<br />

kargia, radgan garkveulwilad,<br />

adamiani winaswar emzadeba<br />

maT winaaRmdeg sabrZolvelad,<br />

gacilebiT ukeT Seimecnebs<br />

am daavadebaTa profilaqtikisa<br />

da mkurnalobis saSualebebsa<br />

da meTodebs.<br />

maS ase, modiT, erTad gaverkvioT,<br />

Tu romel daavadebebze<br />

migvaniSnebs Cveni sisxlis jgufi.<br />

sisxlis<br />

pirveli jgufi<br />

sisxlis pirveli jgufi<br />

Zlieri xasiaTis adamianebs axasiaTebs.<br />

mizandasaxulni, mtkiceni<br />

da sakuTar TavSi darwmunebulebi<br />

sakmaod medegni arian<br />

nevrozebisadmi da adviladac<br />

janmrTeldebian; Tumca sxvebisgan<br />

ambiciurobiT, mtkivneuli<br />

TavmoyvareobiTa da ramdenadme<br />

gamoxatuli ampartavnebiT ganirCevnian.<br />

meniuSi gansakuTrebiT didi<br />

adgils uTmoben xorcsa da mis<br />

produqtebs.<br />

gaaCniaT Zlieri organizmi<br />

da Cveulebriv, didxans cocxloben.<br />

yvelaze xSirad awuxebT: hipertoniuli<br />

daavadeba, gastriti,<br />

kuWisa da Tormetgoja naw-<br />

sisxlis jgufi da daavadebebi<br />

lavis wylulovani daavadeba,<br />

arTriti, revmatizmi, aratravmuli<br />

sisxldena, farisebri jirkvlis<br />

disfunqcia, alergia da<br />

hemofilia.<br />

CamoTvlil daavadebaTa Soris<br />

gansakuTrebul yuradRebas<br />

saWiroebs kuWisa da Tormetgoja<br />

nawlavis wylulovani daavadeba,<br />

radgan msoflioSi<br />

wylulovani paTologiiT daavadebulTa<br />

35 procents swored<br />

sisxlis pirveli jgufis adamianebi<br />

Seadgenen.<br />

arsebobs mosazreba, rom<br />

pirveli jgufis sisxli xels<br />

uwyobs kuWis lorwovan garsze<br />

im membranuli receptorebis<br />

ganviTarebas, romlebic metismetad<br />

mgrZnobiareni arian helikobaqteriisadmi.<br />

amitomac pirveli<br />

jgufis mqoneni advilad<br />

emorCilebian daavadebis gamomwvevis<br />

neba-survils.<br />

sisxlis meore jgufi<br />

am jgufis warmomadgenlebi<br />

metad komunikabelurni arian,<br />

advilad eguebian ucxo garemos,<br />

organulad erwymian nebismier<br />

koleqtivs da gulgaxsnilobi-<br />

Ta da keTilganwyobiT advilad<br />

iwveven simpaTiebs. maTze emociebi<br />

ver batonobs, isini saRad<br />

azrovneben da civi gonebiT udgebian<br />

nebismier saqmes. maT SeiZleba<br />

endoT!<br />

aSkara uaryofiT Tvisebad<br />

SeiZleba miviCnioT sijiute da<br />

is, rom ar SeuZliaT moduneba,<br />

rac uqmniT kidec janmrTelobasTan<br />

dakavSirebul problemebs.<br />

advilad elevian xorcsa da<br />

mis produqtebs, upiratesobas<br />

vegetarianul sakvebs aniWeben,<br />

radgan ician, rom aseTi sakvebi<br />

maT organizms gacilebiT uxdeba.<br />

yvelaze xSirad awuxebT: miokardiumis<br />

infarqti, aTerosklerozi,<br />

gulis iSemiuri daavadeba,<br />

RviZlisa da naRvlis buStis<br />

daavadebebi, gansakuTrebT<br />

midrekilni arian sanaRvle<br />

gzebSi qvebis warmoqmnisadmi,<br />

xSirad awuxebT pnevmoniebi, radikuliti,<br />

osteoqondrozi, podagra,<br />

qronikuli gadaRlis<br />

sindromi, leikozi, Trombozi,<br />

tromboflebiti, qveda kidurebis<br />

endarteriiti, kariesi, furunkulebi,<br />

naadrevi dabereba,<br />

qalebSi _ mastiti.<br />

sisxlis mesame jgufi<br />

am jgufis warmomadgenelTa<br />

umravlesoba daxvewili, niWieri<br />

xalxia, gulgaxsnili da optimistia,<br />

axasiaTebs Taviseburi<br />

ltolva Tavgadasavlebisadmi.<br />

monotonuri cxovreba male bezrdebaT<br />

da mzad arian Zireuli<br />

cvlilebebisTvisac ki.<br />

aSkara uaryofiTi Tvisebaa<br />

usazRvro individualizmi da<br />

damoukideblobisadmi uzomo<br />

ltolva, rac xSirad maT daucvelsa<br />

da susts xdis.<br />

am jgufis adamianebi etanebian<br />

xorcs, rZesa da mis produqtebs<br />

ganusazRvreli raodenobiT.<br />

yvelaze xSirad awuxebT: angina,<br />

Sardgamomyofi sistemis<br />

daavadebebi, enterokoliti, gansakuTrebiT<br />

xSiria msxvili nawlavis<br />

simsivneebi, naRvelkenWovani<br />

daavadeba, qolecistiti,<br />

aTerosklerozi, alergia da kariesi.<br />

sisxlis meoTxe jgufi<br />

am jgufis warmomadgenelTa<br />

ricxvi gacilebiT naklebia, vidre<br />

sxva jgufebisa. isini Zlieri<br />

da mravalmxriv niWieri,<br />

gansakuTrebiT mimzidveli adamianebi<br />

arian. maTTan Tanacxovreba<br />

Zalzed advilia, axasia-<br />

TebT xasiaTis sirbile, keTilmosurneoba,<br />

gawonasworebuloba.<br />

maTi sisuste vlindeba mudmiv<br />

Sinagan konfliqtebSi, rac<br />

Zlier uqveiTebT TviTSefasebis<br />

koeficients, meryevni arian da<br />

eSiniaT siaxleebis.<br />

mcire raodenobiT yvela<br />

produqti uyvarT, Tumca erideben<br />

kuWisTvis mZimed mosanelebel<br />

sakvebs.<br />

yvelaze xSirad awuxebT: angina,<br />

gripi, haimoriti, mwvave<br />

respiratoruli daavadebebi,<br />

bronqiti, anemia, ekzema, hipertonia,<br />

gulis ukmarisoba, furunkulebi.<br />

marTalia, sisxlis jgufi<br />

garkveul informacias iZleva<br />

kvebis, cxovrebis wesisa da daavadebebisadmi<br />

midrekilebis Sesaxeb,<br />

magram ar girCevT am rekomendaciaTa<br />

brmad mindobas,<br />

radgan erTi da imave sisxlis<br />

jgufis adamianebic ki, ama Tu<br />

im TvisebaTa gamoxatvisas, sakmaod<br />

individualurni arian es<br />

ubralod, zogadi informaciaa,<br />

romelic sakuTari organizmis<br />

ukeT Secnobasa da marTvaSi unda<br />

daixmaroT.<br />

kalciumi rom ar dagakldeT<br />

kalciums sakmaod bevri,<br />

farTod gavrcelebuli produqti<br />

Seicavs, miuxedavad amisa,<br />

misi miReba sakvebis gziT mainc<br />

garkveulwilad problemuria:<br />

pirvel rigSi _ yvela produqti<br />

ar Seicavs mas sakmarisi raodenobiT<br />

da meore _ kalciumis<br />

saWiro odenobis misaRebad<br />

aucilebelia normalurad funqcionirebdes<br />

organizmSi misi<br />

utilizaciis (aTvisebis) fiziologiuri<br />

instancia.<br />

kalciumis wyaroa<br />

kalciumis SemcvelobiT liderobs:<br />

rZe, misi produqtebi,<br />

yveli. garda imisa, rom Tavad<br />

Seicaven didi raodenobiT minerals,<br />

sagrZnoblad aumjobeseben<br />

mis aTvisebas sxva produqtebidanac;<br />

mSvenieri wyaroa: kvercxis<br />

guli, kombosto, soio, mwvanili.<br />

gaxsovdeT<br />

rac ufro didi raodenobiT<br />

kalciumi xvdeba organizmSi<br />

mcenareul sakvebTan erTad, miT<br />

karg dReSia Zvlovani qsovili.<br />

mJave sakvebi aqveiTebs organizmSi<br />

kalciumis normalur<br />

cvlas.<br />

cxoveluri warmoSobis cximebi<br />

marTalia kalciumis mcire<br />

dozebs Seicaven, magram sagrZnoblad<br />

aumjobeseben mis aTvisebas;<br />

sasmeli wyali, yovel ylupi<br />

wylisa kalciums Seicavs,<br />

gansakuTrebiT es wyarosa da<br />

Wis wyalze iTqmis, romlis 1<br />

litrSic 350-500 mg mineralia,<br />

organizmi saWiro kalciumis<br />

10-30% -s swored sasmeli<br />

wyliT Rebulobs.<br />

D vitamini da<br />

mzis sxivebi<br />

kalciumis Semcveli produqtiT<br />

kveba saqmis mxolod naxevaria.<br />

mTavari mineralis normaluri<br />

aTviseba gaxlavT, amisaTvis<br />

ki saWiroa D vitamini da<br />

mzis sinaTle, romelic D vitaminis<br />

sinTezs uwyobs xels. samxreT<br />

raionebis mosaxleoba<br />

praqtikulad ar etaneba rZesa<br />

da mis nawarms, kalciumis deficits<br />

ki mainc ar ganicdian,<br />

radgan maTi organizmi mzis sxivebis<br />

wyalobiT, ukanasknel miligramamde<br />

iTvisebs kalciumis<br />

im umcires raodenobasac ki,<br />

romelsac sakvebis meSveobiT<br />

iRebs.<br />

D vitaminis saWiro raodenoba<br />

miiReba 15-20 wuTiT mzis<br />

sxivebqveS yofnisas, sruliad<br />

sakmarisia mxolod saxeze da<br />

zeda kidurebs xvdebodes mzis<br />

sxivebi.<br />

kalciumi<br />

gansakuTrebiT<br />

sWirdebaT<br />

uZraoba kalciumis seriozul<br />

danakargs iwvevs, amitom<br />

kalciumiT mdidari produqtebi<br />

gansakuTrebiT sWirdebaT hipodinamiur<br />

_ naklebad moZrav<br />

adamianebs, e.w. mjdomare profesiis<br />

warmomadgenlebs da maT,<br />

visac garkveul mizezTa gamo,<br />

garkveuli droiT woliTi re-<br />

Jimi uwevT.<br />

stresi da infeqciuri daavadebebi<br />

sagrZnoblad aqveiTebs<br />

sakvebidan kalciumis aTvisebis<br />

xarisxs, amitom daZabul, rTul<br />

periodebSi, momatebuli nervuli<br />

agznebadobis mqone pirebma,<br />

danaklisis Sesavsebad kalciumis<br />

Semcveli gacilebiT meti<br />

produqti unda miirTvan;<br />

oflTan erTad organizmidan<br />

didi raodenobiT gamoiyofa<br />

kalciumi, amitom aqtiuri varjiSis<br />

Semdeg, saunaSi, ubralod<br />

sicxeSic ki misi kompensirebaa<br />

saWiro, amitom sportsmenebma<br />

da orTqlis abazanebis<br />

moyvarulebma yoveldRiurad<br />

unda miiRon kalciumis Semcveli<br />

mineraluri wyali, civi rZe<br />

da kefiri;<br />

bevri dieta meniudan saer-<br />

Tod gamoricxavs kalciumis<br />

Semcvel rZesa da mis nawarms,<br />

parkosnebs, didi odenobiT kaloriebis<br />

gamo, amitom xangrZlivi<br />

dieta kalciumis Zlieri<br />

deficitiT gamowveuli kidurebis<br />

krunCxvebiT da kbilebis<br />

dazianebiT rom ar dasruldes,<br />

iseTi dietebi unda SearCioT,<br />

romlebic zomieri raodenobiT<br />

kalciumis Semcvel produqtebs<br />

iTvaliswineben;<br />

kalciumis aTvisebas sagrZnoblad<br />

arTulebs fosfatebi,<br />

romlebsac uxvad Seicavs kokakola,<br />

kakao da sxva saxis gaziani<br />

sasmelebi, amitom zafxul-<br />

Si gamagrilebeli sasmelebiT<br />

gatacebisas, am mniSvnelovan<br />

faqtorsac nu daiviwyebT;<br />

da bolos, kalciumi advilad<br />

amarcxebs uZilobas, amaSi<br />

Tavadac darwundebiT, Tu uZilobiT<br />

gawamebulebi Zilis win<br />

Wiqa rZes, patara naWer yvels<br />

miirTmebT, dasaZinebeli preparatis<br />

nacvlad ki, girCevT, sulac<br />

kalciumis Semcveli erT<br />

abi miiRoT.<br />

kalciumiT mdidari<br />

produqtebia:<br />

100 ml rZe _ 150 mg;<br />

100 grami araJani _ 100 mg;<br />

100 ml vitaminizebuli forToxlis<br />

wveni _ 150 mg;<br />

100 grami yveli _ 700 mg;<br />

100 grami soios yveli tofu<br />

_ 230 mg;<br />

100 grami iogurti _ 130 mg;<br />

100 grami kombosto _ 150 mg;<br />

100 grami yvavilovani kombosto<br />

_ 30 mg;<br />

100 grami nayini _ 100 mg;<br />

100 grami TeTri lobio _<br />

95 mg;<br />

100 grami wiTeli lobio _<br />

35 mg;<br />

100 grami nuSi _ 285 mg;<br />

100 grami mzesumzira _ 100<br />

mg;<br />

100 grami Savi puri _ 323<br />

mg;<br />

100 grami oragulis konservi<br />

_ 290-310 mg;<br />

100 grami halva _ 91 mg;<br />

100 grami zeTis xili _ 88 m.<br />

D vitaminiT mdidari<br />

produqtebia:<br />

100 grami oraguli _ 360<br />

erT;<br />

erTi kvercxis guli _ 25<br />

erT;<br />

erTi kovzi Tevzis qoni _<br />

1360 erT.<br />

moamzada<br />

zviad RonRaZem.

#22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

saerTo gazeTi<br />

19<br />

msoflio presis mixedviT<br />

sxvadasxva politika _<br />

sxvadasxva gamokvleva: amerikeli<br />

manipulatori saqarTvelosa<br />

da somxeTSi.<br />

am dReebSi sainformacio<br />

saagentom (Ðåãíóì) swored<br />

aseTi saTauriT gamoaqveyna<br />

vigen akopianis werili. yovelTvis<br />

sainteresoa iseTi<br />

opusis komentireba, roca<br />

igi yuradRebasa da mraval-<br />

Srian analizs imsaxurebs.<br />

werilis avtori konkretuli<br />

magaliTebiT afasebs<br />

`rbili Zalebis~ amerikuli<br />

institutebis saqmianobas<br />

saqarTvelosa da somxeTSi<br />

da gamoaqvs mTavari daskvna:<br />

`NDI-is `sociologTa~ Zalisxmevis<br />

Sedegad, saqarTveloSi<br />

Turme iseTi viTarebaa,<br />

rom saakaSvilis mowinaaRmdegeebs<br />

fexqveS miwa<br />

eclebaT, xolo somxeTSi<br />

xelisuflebis strategiuli<br />

mizani Tavidanve absurduli<br />

da miuRwevelia. ur-<br />

TierTobis ra etapze arian<br />

axla amerikis SeerTebuli<br />

Statebi saqarTvelos da<br />

somxeTis xelisuflebasTan<br />

da ra amocanebis gadawyvetas<br />

apireben momavalSi,<br />

mkiTxvelma Tavadve ivaraudos~.<br />

am varaudebiT mivdivarT<br />

daskvnamde, rom amerikis<br />

SeerTebuli Statebi nacionaluri<br />

demokratiuli<br />

institutisa (NDI) da soft power-is<br />

sxva instrumentebiT<br />

yovelmxriv mxars uWers saakaSvilis<br />

xelisuflebas<br />

saqarTveloSi, xolo somxeTSi<br />

morigi feradi revoluciisTvis<br />

niadags amzadeben.<br />

gaurkvevelia, ram ganapiroba<br />

aseTi strategia somxeTis<br />

mimarT, romelic egreT<br />

wodebul komplementarul,<br />

anu urTierTSemavsebel<br />

politikas atarebs da<br />

romelsac amerikis SeerTebul<br />

StatebSi, mravalmilioniani<br />

diasporis saxiT,<br />

sociologiuri gamokiTxvebis<br />

safasuri samxreT kavkasiaSi<br />

Zlieri resursi gaaCnia. es<br />

erTaderTi kiTxva rodia,<br />

romelic am opusis kiTxvis<br />

mere giCndeba. bevrad ufro<br />

saintereso sxva problemaa:<br />

ramdenad reprezentulia<br />

sazogadoebis sociologiuri<br />

gamokiTxvebi, romlebsac<br />

amerikuli institutebi atareben?<br />

nuTu marTla ar<br />

sZulT sinamdvilis deformacia,<br />

romelsac vaSington-<br />

Si, `zbignev bJezinskis feradi<br />

revoluciebis laboratoriaSi~<br />

damuSavebuli sqemebisTvis<br />

mizanmimarTulad<br />

iyeneben?<br />

rasakvirvelia, SeiZleboda,<br />

gagveanalizebina Rrmaazrovani<br />

da urTierTgamomricxavi<br />

mosazrebebi imis<br />

Sesaxeb, ratom da ra mizniT<br />

daafiqsira NDI-m miliarder<br />

biZina ivaniSvilis reitingis<br />

vardna. nuTu simarTlea,<br />

TiTqos zemoT dasaxelebul<br />

`laboratoriaSi~<br />

gadawyvites (Sesabamisi gankargulebis<br />

Semdeg), rom saqarTveloSi<br />

feradi revoluciebis<br />

yovlisSemmusvreli<br />

meqanizmi jerjerobiT<br />

ar aamuSaon, xolo somxeTSi<br />

SesaZlebeli iqneba sxva variantebic?<br />

yvela es sqema irRveva,<br />

Tuki davuSvebT (Tundac<br />

yvelaze Tamami hipotezis<br />

saxiT), rom gamocdilma da<br />

avtoritetulma amerikulma<br />

organizaciam, mTels msoflioSi<br />

sakuTari avtoritetis<br />

damcvelma, ubralod daafiqsira<br />

is, rac sinamdvileSia<br />

_ reitingi marTlac<br />

daeca. magram ratom? werilis<br />

avtori da misi qarTveli<br />

kolegebi rTul da<br />

`konspirologiur~ pasuxs<br />

iZlevian _ imitom, rom mii-<br />

Res SekveTa `xelisuflebis<br />

oponents `mouWiron~. amitomac,<br />

aseTi gamokTxvebis ndoba<br />

ar SeiZleba; xolo Tu<br />

ivaniSvili arCevnebs waagebs,<br />

kidev erTxel gamoCndeba,<br />

ra veragi roli akisria<br />

amerikul institutebs<br />

sxva qveynebis politikur<br />

cxovrebaSi.<br />

Cndeba mniSvnelovani<br />

kiTxvac: saqarTveloSi opoziciisTvis<br />

yelSi waWera da<br />

piriqiT, masze zemoqmedeba<br />

somxeTSi xelisuflebis Sesacvlelad,<br />

amerikis Seer-<br />

Tebuli StatebisTvis imdenad<br />

mniSvnelovania, rom mzad<br />

arian, NDI-is (da misi<br />

partniorebis, maT Soris<br />

Gallup) avtoriteti Seswiron<br />

mas, oRondac wamier mizans<br />

miaRwion im regionSi,<br />

romelic amerikis strategiuli<br />

interesebis periferiul<br />

teritoriazea?<br />

ufro swori iqneboda,<br />

gvemsjela, ramdenad miesadageba<br />

postsabWoTa teritorias<br />

sazogadoebrivi<br />

kvlevis is meTodika, romelic<br />

SeimuSaves da aqtiurad<br />

iyeneben demokratiuli<br />

tradiciebis dasavlur saxelmwifoebSi.<br />

mivaqcioT yuradReba:<br />

NDI-is monacemebiT, pirvel<br />

adgilzea saqarTvelos ka-<br />

Tolikos-patriarqi, meoreze<br />

_ Sinagan saqmeTa ministri<br />

vano merabiSvili, mesameze _<br />

Tbilisis meri gigi ugulava,<br />

meoTxeze _ prezidenti<br />

mixeil saakaSvili. am reitingSi<br />

biZina ivaniSvils meaTe<br />

adgili ergo. qarTveli<br />

opozicionerebisTvisac es<br />

reitingi aSkarad Seusabamoa<br />

realobasTan.<br />

postsabWoTa teritoriaze<br />

xelisuflebis demokratiuli<br />

gziT Secvlis gamocdileba<br />

ar gaaCniaT da<br />

qarTveli (somexi, rusi,<br />

azerbaijaneli) amomrCeveli<br />

ver acnobierebs, rom urnaSi<br />

Cagdebuli biuleteniT wydeba<br />

ara romelime abstraqtuli<br />

proeqtis, aramed misi<br />

da misi Svilebis bedi. amitomac,<br />

postsabWoeli amomr-<br />

Ceveli xmas aZlevs yvelaze<br />

martivi motivaciis gamo:<br />

moswons Zlieri, warmatebuli,<br />

aqtiuri, saqmiani da rac<br />

mTavaria, Zalauflebis berketebis<br />

mqone adamiani; xalxi<br />

xmas aZlevs da ar acnobierebs,<br />

rom xelisufleba<br />

ar unda iyos personificirebuli.<br />

xelisuflebas xmas<br />

imitom aZleven, rom eSiniaT<br />

cvlilebebis, destabilizaciis,<br />

aSinebT ucnobi saxeebi...<br />

sinamdvileSi, reitingi<br />

ecema ara mxolod imitom,<br />

rom NDI sazogadoebrivi<br />

azriT manipulirebs, aramed<br />

imitom, rom yofili sabWoTa<br />

kavSiris teritoriaze mcxovrebi<br />

amomrCevlebi ver acnobierebn<br />

sakuTari Zalis<br />

fass. maT eimedebaT xelisuflebis<br />

an misi oponentis<br />

Zala; amitomac opozicias<br />

gansakuTrebuli SemarTeba<br />

marTebs.<br />

axla ki mivadeqiT kidev<br />

erT mTavar kiTxvas _ ramdenad<br />

relevanturia sazogadoebrivi<br />

azrisa da reitingebis<br />

kvleva, roca postsabWoTa<br />

sociums sxva sazogadoebebisTvis<br />

(faseulobebisa<br />

da demokratiis gamocdilebis<br />

sxva sistemebiT)<br />

gankuTvnili meTodikiT ikvleven?<br />

Znelad auxsni amerikel<br />

sociologs, rom Tu xelisuflebas<br />

xmas aZleven, ara<br />

imitom, rom eSiniaT an gansakuTrebulad<br />

uyvarT es<br />

xelisufleba, prezidenti an<br />

ministri; maT aSinebT kardinaluri<br />

gardaqmnebi da<br />

ar sjeraT, rom daqsasuli<br />

opozicia, Zlieri da moqmedi<br />

xelisuflebis fonze, mis<br />

cxovrebas gaaumjobesebs da<br />

qveynis saerTo mdgomareobas<br />

Secvlis.<br />

vestnik kavkaza<br />

putinis istoriis gakveTilebi<br />

vladimir putini, romelmac<br />

orSabaTs Tavisi<br />

mesame saprezidento vadis<br />

aTvla daiwyo, ar gamoricxavs,<br />

rom 2018 wels<br />

gadairCion; Tumca, misi<br />

mtkicebiT, Zalauflebas<br />

maSinve Seeleva, Tuki dainaxavs,<br />

rom xalxi mxars<br />

aRar uWers.<br />

putinis msgavsi mmarTvelebi<br />

Znelad Tmoben Zalauflebas<br />

_ Tundac imitom,<br />

rom memkvidreebi ar<br />

aumxedrnen. Tanamedrove<br />

istoria savsea aseTi magaliTebiT<br />

_ gvirgvindakargul<br />

diqtatorebs SeeZloT,<br />

bunebrivi sikvdiliT<br />

wasuliyvnen am qveynidan an<br />

mSvidobianad gadamdgariyvnen. zogierTma<br />

es moaxerxa.<br />

werilis avtori putins sTavazobs<br />

SesaZlo variantebis sias,<br />

romelTa gamoyenebac mas SeuZlia.<br />

varianti 1. qveyanaSi demokratia<br />

daamkvidroT. ganis prezidentma<br />

rolingsma mkveTrad Secvala qveynis<br />

ganviTareba, igi orjer airCies<br />

am Tanamdebobaze da pensiaze 2001<br />

wels gavida.<br />

varianti 2. uzrunvelyaviT `gza<br />

gasasvlelisken~. daniel ortega,<br />

wasvlamde cota xniT adre, yvela<br />

partias SeuTanxmda, rom Tavs Seikavebdnen<br />

SurisZiebisgan. es 1990<br />

wels iyo. 2006 da 2011 wlebSi igi<br />

kvlav dabrunda nikaraguis<br />

prezidentad.<br />

varianti 3. ideqiT mtkiced.<br />

prezidenti mugabe, rogorc<br />

Cans, sicocxlis bolomde<br />

apirebs zimbabves<br />

marTvas; savaraudod, mas<br />

`Tanamdebobidan gasvlis~<br />

strategia ar gaaCnia. misi<br />

saidumlo aseTia: almasebis<br />

mopovebiT miRebuli mogeba<br />

mas exmareba, SeinarCunos<br />

masTan daaxloebulTa<br />

da uSiSroebis ZalTa loialuroba.<br />

varianti 4. SeqmeniT dinastia<br />

an erTpartiuli saxelmwifo.<br />

fidel kastrom<br />

diqtatoruli uflebamosilebani<br />

RviZl Zmas gadasca. erTpartiulma<br />

sistemam ramdenime aTeuli<br />

weli iarseba sabWoTa kavSir-<br />

Sic.<br />

putinis Zlieri Tvisebebis gaTvaliswinebiT,<br />

xelisuflebidan misi<br />

wasvlis dRe Zalzed Sors aris.<br />

niu-iorkis universitetis profesor<br />

brius meskitis azriT, putins<br />

Zalauflebis Sesustebis gansakuTrebuli<br />

stimuli ar gaaCnia, anu gamoiyenos<br />

pirveli varianti, radganac<br />

navTobis mopovebis Semosavali<br />

metismetad didia saimisod, rom saaxloblos<br />

viwro wris mxardaWera<br />

moipovos, anu gamoiyenos mesame varianti.<br />

Teoriuli wiaRsvlebis nacvlad,<br />

gaTamaSdeba Zveli varianti _<br />

adre Tu gvian, putini ruseTisTvis<br />

Cveul meTods gamoiyenebs _ Sear-<br />

Cevs misTvis loialur or adamians,<br />

romlebic mzad iqnebian, putins<br />

aaridon devna-Seviwroeba da gaTamaSebul<br />

arCevnebze erT-erTi gaimarjvebs.<br />

Tumca... gavixsenoT Ciles diqtator<br />

augusto pinoCetis badi _<br />

man sicocxlis bolo wlebi sasamarTloSi<br />

gaatara... ase rom, `xelisuflebis<br />

datovebis~ kargad mofiqrebuli<br />

gegmac ifuSeba xolme.<br />

`bevrs vkiTxulob, gansakuTrebiT<br />

istoriul wignebs, _ ganacxada<br />

pinoCetma dapatimrebamde cota<br />

xniT adre, _ istoria gvaswavlis,<br />

rom diqtatorebis bolo yovelTvis<br />

savalaloa~.<br />

The Wall Street Journal<br />

internetmimoxilva<br />

moamzada g. WavWavaZem

24 20 saerTo gazeTi #22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

xelisufleba uraniviT gamdidrda,<br />

magram afeTqebas Tvi-<br />

Ton ki ara, radiaqtiuli<br />

sicruiT dasxivebuli xalxi<br />

apirebs.<br />

risi an visi bralia is,<br />

rac ase meTodurad da mzakvrulad<br />

Semogvinaxes da ukve<br />

Zval-rbilSi gaujda qveyanas?!<br />

sazogadoebis yvela fenas<br />

moedo da yovel CasunTqva-amosunTqvaze<br />

maxrCobela gveliviT<br />

gviWers salteebs da ufro<br />

da ufro gvizRudavs sicocxlis<br />

niSansvets?!<br />

metastazebi ise guluxvad<br />

da myaradaa yvelgan gamjdari,<br />

rom, etyoba, betonis satrabaxo<br />

gzebsa da qalaqis prospeqtebs<br />

ki ara, soflis orRobeebsa<br />

da sacalfexo bilikebsac<br />

siamovnebiT iyenebs.<br />

yoveldRiurobas imdeni<br />

SeSfoTeba moaqvs, rom yvelafris<br />

aRnusxvac ki SeuZlebeli<br />

gaxda, araTu yovel maTganze<br />

aucilebeli reaqcia, qmedebebi,<br />

romlebic uwin nervebs giZabavda<br />

da xmamaRla aprotestebdi,<br />

imdenad gaxSirda, rom Senda<br />

uneburad eCvevi usamarTlobas,<br />

SiSs, siCumes...<br />

kidev erTxel vikiTxoT,<br />

ratom xdeba ase?! risi an visi<br />

bralia es?! nawvimarze sokoebiviT<br />

momravlebuli eqspertebic<br />

ar zogaven Tavebs da<br />

cdiloben, rac SeiZleba xmama-<br />

Rali pasuxi gascen am kiTxvas.<br />

erTmaneTs gamWriaxobaSi ki<br />

ara, ufro xSirad originalobaSi<br />

ejibrebian da cdiloben,<br />

sakuTari klaniviT WeSmaritebac<br />

gaamravlon.<br />

arada, WeSmariteba, TiTqos<br />

mzeTunaxaviviT, erTaderTi da<br />

ganumeorebeli unda iyos. Aase<br />

araa?!<br />

hoda, radgan asea, mec gadavwyvite,<br />

misi raodenoba<br />

mkveTrad mainc Sevamciro da<br />

gulwrfelad vaRiaro, rom<br />

yvelaferi, rac dResdReobiT<br />

Cvens Tavs xdeba da ra ubedurebac<br />

gvWirs, mxolod da mxolod<br />

Cemi bralia.<br />

davazustoT! Cemi rogorc<br />

pirovnebis ki ara, Cemi fataluri<br />

uiRblobis bralia.<br />

da, qvemoT rasac davwer,<br />

imas Tu yuradRebiT waikiTxavT,<br />

darwmunebuli var,<br />

Cems gulwrfel aRsarebas<br />

Tqvenc daeTanxmebiT.<br />

maS ase, viwyeb!<br />

albaTobis Teoriis mixedviT,<br />

adamians xan unda umarTlebdes,<br />

xan _ ara; xan mwvane<br />

unda aenTos, xan _ wiTeli.<br />

Dda rac ufro xangZlivia<br />

drois monakveTi, miT ufro metia<br />

maTi monacvleobis Tanafardobis<br />

albaToba.<br />

visac ufro xSirad umarTlebs,<br />

imas iRblians veZaxiT da<br />

visac SedarebiT iSviaTad, imas<br />

_ uiRblos. Tumca erTic da<br />

meorec sabolood mainc avadsaxsenebeli<br />

albaTobis Teoria-<br />

Si mSvenivrad Tavsdeba, anu iRblianic<br />

iqaa da uiRbloc.<br />

ai, me ki... xom amboben xolme,<br />

yvela wessa Tu kanons aqvs<br />

gamonaklisi da es gamonaklisi<br />

wess amtkicebso...<br />

rogorc Cans, albaTobis<br />

TeoriisTvis aseTi gamonaklisi<br />

me var, anu Cemi totaluri<br />

uiRbloba yofiT doneze alba-<br />

Tobis Teoriis iRblianobas<br />

amtkicebs.<br />

Cemma iRblianobam ki ukve<br />

didi xania, im zRvars gadaabija,<br />

romlis iqiTac guldawyvetis<br />

nacvlad xalisi iwyeba.<br />

mec da Cemi megobrebic yoveli<br />

morigi argamarTlebis Semdeg,<br />

Temur<br />

Wkuaseli<br />

magrad vxalisobT xolme. Cems<br />

uiRblobaze ukve legendebi<br />

dadis, raRas aRar hyvebian<br />

xolme, zogs tyuilsa da zogs<br />

marTals, zogs aRaribeben,<br />

zogsac piriqiT, amdidreben,<br />

fantaziis mixedviT.<br />

saqme iqamde mivida, rom<br />

elementaruli survilis gamJ-<br />

Ravneba Tu davapire, iseTis,<br />

sxvebsac rom xels aZlevT, ma-<br />

Sinve pirze xels amafareben,<br />

oRond Sen ar Tqva, Torem yvelaferi<br />

wyalSi Cagveyrebao.<br />

Tavi davaneboT axla, alba-<br />

Tobis ki ara, saerTod nebismier<br />

Teorias da praqtikuli magaliTebiT<br />

gavixalisoT urTierToba.<br />

aseTi gegma maqvs, jer<br />

Cemi uiRblobis tomeulebidan<br />

ramdenime epizods SemogTavazebT<br />

da mere imis axsnas Sevecdebi,<br />

ratom vibraleb me<br />

imas, rac dRes Cvens galewil<br />

da dalewil kaloze xdeba.<br />

aqa ramdenime epizodi uiRblo<br />

kacis cxovrebidan...<br />

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />

internetSi<br />

www.saertogazeti.ge<br />

SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />

epizodi pirveli _<br />

wamo, wavixemsoT...<br />

morig sagastrolo turneSi<br />

mivemgzavrebodiT, mgoni londonSi<br />

da moskovSi erTi Ramis<br />

gaTeva gviwevda. es is droa,<br />

roca sabWoTa kavSirs maja jer<br />

kidev esinjeboda, magram saxeze<br />

mkvdrisferi edo. moskovSi na-<br />

SuadRevs CavfrindiT. sastumro<br />

`sevastopoli~ winaswar<br />

gvqonda dajavSnili da male<br />

nomrebSic gavnawildiT. cota<br />

xanSi daTo abesaZem momakiTxa,<br />

ar gSia, wamo, wavixemsoTo...<br />

mec mSioda da wayolasac vapirebdi,<br />

Tumca naxevrad xumrobiT<br />

mainc vuTxari, wamogyvebodi,<br />

magram jobda, uCemod gecada,<br />

CemTan erTad, didi Sansia,<br />

mSivrebi davrCeT-meTqi. vTqvi<br />

es da wamovdeqi, daTom ki sastumros<br />

bukleti damanaxva da<br />

meubneba, modi aq da Caxede<br />

amas, sastumro, Zmao, sami korpusisgan<br />

Sedgeba. ager, a, pirveli,<br />

meore da mesame... samive<br />

korpusSi erTad aris 4 restorani,<br />

6 kafe da 19 bufeti, SevkriboT...<br />

ra gamogvdis?! kvebis<br />

29 obieqti da Sen mimtkiceb,<br />

rom saWmels ver SevWamT?! wamodi,<br />

wamodi... me ganaxveb, Sev-<br />

WamT Tu ver SevWamT. raRaca ki<br />

gamomatanes saxlidan, magram<br />

aRar minda es xaWapuri da moxarSuli<br />

dedali, raRac aqauri,<br />

rusuli momenatrao...<br />

madridSic rom mimtkicebdi,<br />

dedamiwis zurgze Tu vinme rames<br />

amzadebs, am maRaziaSi yvelaferi<br />

iyidebao, is Tu gaxsovs,<br />

Sevubrune sityva, maxsovso,<br />

dameTanxma. mere?! Cemi saa-<br />

Tis elementi hqondaT?! ar<br />

hqondaT, magram... isic kargad<br />

maxsovs, gamyidvels ra daemar-<br />

Ta, yviroda, ara, es warmoudgeneliao...<br />

gaxsovs, ramdeni<br />

eZeba da ra saxe hqonda?! hoda,<br />

ager naxav, cota xnis Semdeg<br />

Senc Tu iseTi saxe ar geqnebameTqi...<br />

ixtibari ar gavitexe,<br />

Torem, Tqven ggoniaT, marTla<br />

mjeroda imis, rasac vambobdi?!<br />

ara, ra Tqma unda.<br />

daviZariT, mokled, me da<br />

daTo.<br />

pirvelad, bunebrivia, Cvenive<br />

korpusis restorans CavakiTxeT<br />

meore sarTulze. `sanitarni<br />

den~ _ pirvelive restorani<br />

am warweriT Semogvegeba.<br />

gaviRimeT da mezobel korpus-<br />

Si gadavinacvleT. verc meore<br />

restoranSi SevediT, adgilobriv<br />

orkestrs repeticia hqonda<br />

gagania lanCis dros. mesame<br />

korpusSi ori restorani iyo,<br />

erTi Cveulebrivi da meore _<br />

Tevzeulis. Cven oriveze Tanaxma<br />

viyaviT, magram CveulebriSi<br />

isev ar SegviSves _ qorwili<br />

gvaqvs SekveTili da ver mogemsaxurebiTo.<br />

Tevzis restoran-<br />

Si, SesvliT ki SevediT, magram<br />

Tumca...<br />

damarilebuli qaSayis garda,<br />

veraferi SemogvTavazes. samagierod,<br />

Tavazianad dagvaimedes,<br />

xval ueWvelad gveqneba yvelaferi<br />

da mobrZandiTo...<br />

restornebze rom xeli mogvecara,<br />

kafeebze gadaverTeT.<br />

pirvelive kafeSi ar SegviSves,<br />

parikmaxerebis konkursi imar-<br />

Teboda. meoreSi is mSobliuri<br />

warwera dagvxvda _ `sanitarni<br />

den~!<br />

mesame kafeSi mTeli WurWeli<br />

Tavisive dana-CangliT ratomRac<br />

iatakze elaga da iq<br />

rogorRa SevidodiT. meoTxes<br />

rom Tvali SevavleT, vifiqreT,<br />

egaa da gagvimarTlao, aSkarad<br />

xalxi iyo SigniT. aRmoCnda,<br />

rom viRacebs uCxubiaT da gamoZaxebuli<br />

milicia mowmeebs<br />

kiTxavda. mexuTeSi amxanaguri<br />

sasamarTlo tardeboda. meeqvse<br />

ki saRamos 7 saaTamde daketili<br />

iyo.<br />

kafeebzec rom mogvecara<br />

xeli, daTo cota ki daeWvda,<br />

es ra xdebao, magram ixtibari<br />

ar gaitexa da axla bufetebze<br />

mivitaneT ieriSi. TandaTan SemoviareT<br />

yvela korpusis yvela<br />

sabufete, magram xemsi rom xemsia,<br />

isic ki versad movixel-<br />

TeT. zogan Sesveneba iyo, zogs<br />

ubralod boqlomi edo, zogan<br />

ybadaRebuli warwerebi, an `aRwera~,<br />

an `sanitarni den~ da<br />

erT-or karze ki furceli dagvxvda<br />

gakruli, naxevar saaTSi<br />

davbrundebio...<br />

me ukve mwared mecineba, da-<br />

Tos ki vatyob, saxe sadacaa waeSleba<br />

da im madrideli espaneliviT<br />

burtyunebs, ara, es mar-<br />

Tla warmoudgeneliao... miadga<br />

mere romeliRac sarTulis moriges<br />

da jiqur hkiTxa: _ Tu<br />

SeiZleba gamagebineT, ai axla,<br />

am wuTas Tqvens sastumroSi<br />

SemiZlia Tu ara rame SevWamoo...<br />

ra Tqma undao, daTosgan<br />

gansxvavebiT mSvidad gvipasuxa<br />

sarTulis morigem, _ SediT<br />

derefnis boloSi liftSi da<br />

adiT me-19 sarTulze, im sar-<br />

Tulze bufeti saerTod ar<br />

iketeba, dRedaRam muSaobso...<br />

daTos madlobis Tqmac daaviwyda,<br />

ise gavarda liftisken.<br />

liftidan gamosulebs pirdapir<br />

TvalebSi gveZgera warwera,<br />

_ `bufet rabotaet kruglosutoCno~.<br />

warweris qvemoT ki<br />

msuye isari gviCvenebda xsnis<br />

mimarTulebas. me davwinaurdi,<br />

daTo sakmaod Camovitove da<br />

bufetis karsac pirveli mivadeqi.<br />

Sevxede da damewyo kidevac<br />

isterikuli sicilis Semoteva.<br />

daTo sicilSi ki gzaSive<br />

amyva, magram roca movida da<br />

karze mimagrebuli warwera imanac<br />

waikiTxa, maSin xom saer-<br />

Tod CabJirda. iciT, ra ewera<br />

karze?! `bufetCik bolen~. ase<br />

damTavrda Cveni waxemsebis uiRblo<br />

istoria, Tumca...<br />

epizodi meore _<br />

wyaroze Cagiyvan da...<br />

zafxulia. cxela. me da Cemi<br />

megobari Tbilisis aeroportis<br />

administraciis SenobasTan<br />

axlos manqanaSi vsxedvarT. im<br />

SenobaSi erTi Cemi nacnobi mu-<br />

Saobs, imasTan varT raRac saqmeze<br />

misulebi, magram stumrebi<br />

hyavs da velodebiT, dagvpirda,<br />

male gavuSvebo... iqve, dabali<br />

Robis gadaRma, ezoSi onkani<br />

mosCans. viRac qalbatoni vedroTi<br />

xelSi miuaxlovda, wyali<br />

guluxvad mouSva da mZlavrma<br />

nakadma vedro wamebSi gaavso.<br />

TiTqos manqanaSic SemoaRwia<br />

wylis sigrilem. qalbatonma<br />

ki wyali saxezec Seisxa, Tavi<br />

gaigrila da wavida.<br />

avwrialdi, avwrialdi da<br />

megobars veubnebi, au, rogori<br />

siamovnebiT davlevdi mag<br />

wyals, etyoba civicaa, magram<br />

riTi?! carieli boTli mainc<br />

megdos sadme-meTqi.<br />

gadaval, sabargulSi vnaxavo,<br />

_ miTxra megobarma, magram<br />

SevaCere: _ tyuilad irjebi,<br />

ar maqvs. Tanac, romc megulebodes,<br />

Cemi ambavi xom ici, roca<br />

mWirdeba rame, zustad maSin<br />

gaqreba-meTqi.<br />

Cavxedav mainco da... cota<br />

xnis Semdeg litranaxevriani<br />

boTliT da eSmakuri RimiliT<br />

dabrunda.<br />

_ gamoricxulia. ara?! kidev<br />

ityvi, bedi ar maqvso?! Sexede<br />

rogoria, gamorecxvac ar<br />

unda... gadaxta Robeze, mouSva<br />

onkani, boTli saguldagulod<br />

mainc gamorecxa, Tan ramdenjerme<br />

mec eSmakurad gamomxeda.<br />

me ki wyurvili ise gamiZlierda,<br />

rom yeli amewva. iman ki<br />

boTli ramdenjerme mZlavrad<br />

daiqnia, narecxi wylisgan dawrita<br />

da onkans asavsebad SeuSvira<br />

Tu ara... wyalic Sewyda.<br />

SerCa is garecxil-gamowretili<br />

boTli xelSi carieli. es<br />

orivesTvis imdenad moulodnelad<br />

moxda, rom erTmaneTs karga<br />

xans gaognebulebi vucqer-

#22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

saerTo gazeTi<br />

21<br />

diT da aseve karga xans xmasac<br />

ver viRebdiT. mere me tradiciulad<br />

mwared gamecina, iman ki<br />

pirjvari gadaiwera da Robes<br />

gadmoaxta.<br />

Tumca...<br />

epizodi mesame _<br />

bzikis geografia<br />

kaxeTSi var stumrad. fericvaleba<br />

axali Cavlilia, agrilda<br />

da xilsac gemo Seecvala.<br />

saxlis ukan ezoSi, msxlis<br />

xis qveS gvidgas patara magida<br />

me da Cems kaxel megobars. aTas<br />

rameze saubriT virTobT Tavs<br />

da SigadaSig patara Wiqebsac<br />

veTamaSebiT.<br />

profesiiT inJineria Cemi<br />

kaxeli Zmakaci, magram im yaidis<br />

xalxidanaa, yvelaferi rom<br />

ician amqveynad da yvelaferze<br />

rom aqvT pasuxi. axla amas kaxuri<br />

sijiutec daamateT...<br />

azrs verafriT Seacvlevineb.<br />

sxva mxriv, icocxle _ gatana,<br />

erTguleba, stumris siyvaruli,<br />

iumori... yvelaferi Tavis<br />

adgilzea. msxalze vkiTxe da<br />

gulabiao, mipasuxa. gulabi manamdec<br />

bevri gamesinja, magram<br />

es imdenad gansxvavebli iyo,<br />

cota ar iyos, eWvi Semepara<br />

mis naTqvamSi. garegnuladac ar<br />

hgavda gulabs. iciT, rogori<br />

forma hqonda? Taflis kasrSi<br />

axladamovlebul xis kovzs baraqiani<br />

wveTi TavkombalasaviT<br />

rom Camoekideba, msxvil Tavs<br />

rom waigrZelebs da bolosken<br />

TandaTan wvrildeba, ai, zustad<br />

aseTi formisa iyo is msxali.<br />

sxvaTa Soris, gemoc Taflisa<br />

hqonda. pirSi Tavs moixelTebda<br />

Tu ara, dauReWavad<br />

dneboda.<br />

_ ara, Zmao, araa es gulabi,<br />

mxolod gulabi. am msxlis-<br />

Tvis es erTi saxeli naRdad<br />

araa sakmarisi, kidev unda erqvas<br />

rame. vTqvaT, gulabic erqvas<br />

da RviZlabic...<br />

_ RviZlabi ara, kuWlabi...<br />

geubnebi, gulabia-meTqi. papaCemic<br />

egre eZaxda. Sen ki... gana<br />

ar vici, namdvili urwmuno Toma<br />

xar. aqeT rom movdiodiT da<br />

CineTi ukrainas esazRvreba-meTqi<br />

rom giTxari, kinaRam manqanidan<br />

gadamixti...<br />

_ axla me momismine: es<br />

msxali iqneb marTlac gulabia,<br />

magram rac Seexeba CineTsa da<br />

ukrainas... uux! erTi Seni geografiis<br />

maswavlebeli Semaxvedra<br />

sadme da mere me vicode da<br />

iman. ra unda, biWo, CineTs ukrainasTan-meTqi.<br />

adre mec mase<br />

megonao, Cemma Zmakacma, magram<br />

amaswineebze `vis unda oci aTasi~<br />

iyo televizorSi, zustad<br />

eg ikiTxes da me raRas merCio...<br />

CamoTvlili iyo am oTxi qveynidan<br />

romeli esazRvreba CineTso...<br />

_ mere?<br />

_ mere isa, roma ukrainao,<br />

gaige?!<br />

_ me ki gavige, magram etyoba<br />

Sen ver gaige kiTxva wesierad.<br />

piriqiT iqneboda, ukuRma!<br />

romeli esazRvrebao ki ara,<br />

romeli ar esazRrebao, amas<br />

ikiTxavdnen. ukuRma, asineTa,<br />

ukuRma! Tanac nasvamic iqnebodi.<br />

ici, ras getyvi? modi, arc<br />

Seni da arc Cemi... _ xumrobis<br />

xasiaTze davdeqi moulodnelad:<br />

ager, am bziks xom xedav...<br />

_ vxedav, maS!<br />

_ hoda, Cven Soris vin mar-<br />

Talia da vin mtyuani, modi, am<br />

bzikma gaarkvios-meTqi.<br />

_ eg rogoro, _ mekiTxeba<br />

maspinZeli.<br />

_ rogor da, Cven Soris<br />

mtyuans am bzikma ukbinos-meTqi.<br />

sityva damTavrebuli ar<br />

mqonda da rogor fiqrobT, ra<br />

moxdeboda?? ra da zed cxvirze<br />

damafrinda bziki da gulianad<br />

damnestra. me tkivilisgan<br />

wamovxti da gulabis garSemo<br />

sirbili daviwye. iseTi SegrZneba<br />

mqonda, TiTqos gaxurebuli<br />

Samfuris wveri momaWires<br />

cxvirze. Cemi keTili maspinZeli<br />

lamis sicilisgan daixrCo.<br />

im dRidan moyolebuli, erTi<br />

kvira, sakuTari cxviris iqiT<br />

verafers vxedavdi.<br />

Tumca...<br />

epizodi meoTxe _<br />

Ramis Teva liftSi<br />

da isev zafxuli... qobule-<br />

Ti. `qarTuli xmebi~ sastumro<br />

`inturistis~ zeda sarTulebze<br />

vcxovrobT. es is periodia,<br />

Suqi rom sixarulobanas gveTamaSeba.<br />

mova, cota xniT gagvaxalisebs,<br />

mere gvetyvis, geyofa-<br />

To da karga xniT migvatovebs.<br />

mere isev moulodnelad agvaJriamulebs<br />

da ase grZeldeba.<br />

midis _ modis, midis _ modis...<br />

wava, atydeba liftSi lokaluri<br />

wivil-kivili, mova da mTel<br />

sastumros sixarulis yiJina<br />

moswydeba-xolme. mokled, aSkarad<br />

gaxalisda cxovreba. melifte<br />

mudmivad morigeobs,<br />

dRisiTac da RamiTac _ lift-<br />

Si gaWedili xalxi gamohyavs<br />

gareT. cxovreba ki gaxalisda,<br />

magram Cems Tavs rom raRac ucnauri<br />

xdeba, amasac vatyob.<br />

liftSi ara da ar viWedebi.<br />

rogoria?! Cemi iRblis patroni,<br />

mgoni, mTel sastumroSi<br />

mxolod me davrCi liftSi gauWedavi.<br />

diliT, sauzmeze gamovCndebi<br />

Tu ara, biWebi maSinve<br />

mecemian xolme: ha, gaiWede?!<br />

kidev ara?! saswaulia, sityva<br />

aRar dagcdes uiRblobaze,<br />

Cven, sul cota, sam-samjer gaviWedeT<br />

ukve da Sen ambob, bedi<br />

ar maqvso?!<br />

vatyob, raRaca xdeba Cems<br />

Tavs da nerviulobisgan uZiloba<br />

damewyo. Tqven warmoidgineT,<br />

liftiT mgzavrobasac movuxSire,<br />

mWirdeba Tu ara, mainc<br />

Sevdivar, egeb, gaviWedo da<br />

amovisunTqo-meTqi, magram... gagigonia?!<br />

amasobaSi qobuleTSi<br />

Cveni yofnis vadac miilia, bolo<br />

saRamos baTumidan davbrundi,<br />

Ramis 3 saaTia. sastumros<br />

foieSi erTaderTi kaci dgas<br />

da lifts elodeba. lifti<br />

rom daiZra, vatyob, Cemi Tanamgzavri<br />

aSkarad nerviulobs, ga-<br />

Wedvis eSinia-meTqi, gavifiqre.<br />

es fiqri damTavrebuli ar<br />

mqonda, sinaTlec Caqra. gaqvavda<br />

lifti. moulodnelad, ukun<br />

sibneleSi, Cemma Tanamgzavrma<br />

xmamaRla gineba daiwyo. mkvdarsa<br />

da cocxals aginebs viRacas<br />

da rogorc mogvianebiT gavarkvie,<br />

is viRac qobuleTis elqselebis<br />

ufrosi yofila. dawynardi-meTqi,<br />

misi damSvideba<br />

vcade, qvemoT liftiori morigeobs<br />

da cota xanSi gagviyvans<br />

aqedan-meTqi. pasuxad jer isev<br />

im viRacas Seagina, cotaTi xmadabla<br />

da mere Cem gasagonad<br />

Tqva: qvemoT rom liftiori<br />

morigeobs, is liftiori me varo...<br />

gaognebisagan xma Camiwyda.<br />

is ki agrZelebs _ sinaTle Tu<br />

movida, xom kargi, Tu arada,<br />

dilamde mogviwevs aq yofna,<br />

diliT Cemi `smenSiki~ movao.<br />

magari perspeqtiva mesaxeboda,<br />

Tumca...<br />

epizodi mexuTe _<br />

Coxa da `mzeTunaxavi~<br />

roca `qarTul xmebs~ gastrolebi<br />

gauxSirda da weliwadSi<br />

or-samjer uwevda ucxoeTSi<br />

gamgzavreba, windaxedulobis<br />

gamo, Coxa-axaluxs CemodanSi<br />

arasodes vdebdi. yovelTvis<br />

TviTmfrinavis salon-<br />

Si amqonda. ramdenjerme miTxres<br />

biWebma, ras daaTrev am Coxas<br />

win da ukan, Tavs ratom<br />

iwuxeb, Cade CemodanSi da Caabareo...<br />

dawynardiT, Cemi saqmisa<br />

me vici-meTqi. Cavdeb, Cavabareb<br />

da Cemi iRblis gadamkide<br />

daikargeba-meTqi.<br />

kargi erTio, miTxres, amdeni<br />

welia, naxevarjer haerSi<br />

varT, erTi SemTxveva mainc gaixsene,<br />

rom vinmes Cemodani dakarguliyos.<br />

sxvaTa Soris, arc<br />

Senio... saqmec egaa, Coxa rom<br />

salonSi amaqvs, Cemodanic imitom<br />

ar ikargeba-meTqi, ixtibars<br />

ar vitex. mokled, bolos<br />

mainc Semabes eJvani, modi, er-<br />

Txel vcadoT, Tu marTla rame<br />

moxda, xmas aRarasodes amovi-<br />

RebTo...<br />

morigi gamgzavrebis win sagangebod<br />

iseTi Cemodani viyide,<br />

iseTi feris, rom kilometridan<br />

vcnobdi _ mewamuli feris<br />

iyo da namdvili TeTri yvaviviT<br />

moCanda sxva Cemodnebs Soris.<br />

biWebma magrad imxiarules<br />

mis danaxvaze, magram mSvidad<br />

avuxseni, jer erTi, bargis mi-<br />

Rebis dros Soridanve SevamCnev,<br />

meorec, wesiT, am feris Cemodnis<br />

yidvis survili aravis<br />

unda gauCndes da vinmes rom<br />

aerios da Tavisi egonos, gamoricxulia.<br />

gaigeT axla-meTqi?!<br />

gagebiT ki gaiges, magram magaT<br />

oRond saRadao da samasxro<br />

mieci da... adgnen da Cems Cemodans<br />

`mzeTunaxavi~ daarqves.<br />

moments ar uSvebdnen, rom ar<br />

exsenebinaT _ `mzeTunaxavi~ sadaa,<br />

`mzeTunaxavi~ ar dagvrCes,<br />

`mzeTunaxavi~ Caabare...<br />

Cavabare, mokled, Coxiani<br />

`mzeTunaxavi~ TbilisSi da gavfrindiT<br />

parizSi. gzaSi biWebs<br />

veubnebi, ager me da ager Tqven,<br />

aba, vnaxoT, Tu Camova Cemi<br />

`mzeTunaxavi~ parizSi-meTqi.<br />

imdeni vixumreT am Temaze, imdenjer<br />

vimsjeleT, visgan SeiZleboda<br />

gvenaTxovra safrangeT-<br />

Si Coxa, vinicobaa marTla dakarguliyo<br />

Cveni `mzeTunaxavi~,<br />

rom bolo da bolos, roca CavaRwieT<br />

Sarl de-golis aeroportSi<br />

da bargs velodebodiT,<br />

yvelani erTgvarad daZabulebi<br />

SevcqerodiT, gamoCndeboda Tu<br />

ara Cemi Cemodani.<br />

gamoCnda! marTlac mzeTunaxaviviT<br />

Tavmomwoned anaTebda<br />

sxva uRimRamo Cemodnebs Soris.<br />

biWebma taSi dascxes da sul<br />

male Jozefa martelisac gadavexvieT,<br />

Cvens impresarios.<br />

aeroportidan pirdapir rkinigzis<br />

sadgurSi wavediT masTan<br />

erTad. qalaq viSiSi mivemgzavrebodiT,<br />

am qalaqidan viwyebdiT<br />

gastrolebs. viSi Tavisi<br />

wylebiT aris cnobili, ase<br />

vTqvaT, safrangeTis borjomia.<br />

operis saucxoo SenobiTac<br />

cnobilia. Casvlidan meore<br />

dRes, zustad im operis TeatrSi<br />

gvaqvs koncerti. viSiSi<br />

rom CavediT, saRamo iyo. nomer-<br />

Si Sevedi Tu ara, maSinve Cemodani<br />

davagde sawolze, Cveni<br />

dauwereli kanonis mixedviT,<br />

pirveli, rasac vakeTebT, Coxas<br />

viRebT Cemodnidan, sakidze vkidebT<br />

da vnamavT, kargad rom<br />

gaswordes. hoda, mec zustad<br />

am mizniT gavxseni Cemi `mzeTunaxavi~<br />

da... pirveli, rac iqidan<br />

amomyva, marTlac rom mze-<br />

Tunaxavis saferi vardisferi<br />

atlasis lifi iyo. miWiravs<br />

xelSi da gaSterebuli vuyureb.<br />

meore xeli instinqturad<br />

mkerdze movisvi, sxvaganac vapirebdi,<br />

magram kidev kargi, droze<br />

gamoverkvie. morCa, daviRupeT-meTqi,<br />

Cavilaparake. mere,<br />

imedis raRac naglejiT, mainc<br />

Cavxede Cemodans, iqneb viRac<br />

mexumra-meTqi, magram ar iyo saxumarod<br />

saqme, aSkarad viRac<br />

qalbatonis Cemodani medo sawolze.<br />

parizidan, anu Cemi Cemodnis<br />

savaraudo samyofelidan,<br />

RmerTma uwyis, ramden aseul<br />

kilometrSi. ra ginda, rom<br />

qna?! koncerti xval gvaqvs... me<br />

Sen getyvi, ipovi amis patrons<br />

da moaswreb gacvlas... avtexe<br />

wiokoba, Sevyare yvela, aha,<br />

Zmao, arc axla daijerebT-meTqi!?<br />

rom daiCemeT, Caabare, Caabareo,<br />

midiT da miSoveT axla<br />

Coxa...<br />

biWebs am situaciaSic aRmoaCndaT<br />

iumoris xalisi, neta,<br />

im qalis saxe dagvanaxva, Cemodans<br />

rom gaxsnida da Coxas<br />

amoiRebdao...<br />

mokled, ki vxumrobdiT,<br />

magram aSkarad cud dReSi viyaviT<br />

yvelani.<br />

Tumcaa...<br />

epizodi meeqvse _<br />

bulgareTSi<br />

ra gindoda...<br />

axla veRar vixseneb, ra<br />

gvindoda bulgareTSi, gastrolebi<br />

rom ar iyo, es naRdad<br />

maxsovs, radgan `qarTuli xmebidan~<br />

Cem garda mxolod gia<br />

WiraqaZe, gogi doliZe da zurab<br />

lolaZe iyvnen, sxvebi ara.<br />

asea Tu isea, iq yofnis ZiriTadi<br />

dro, maxsovs, saxelgan-<br />

Tqmul `oqros qviSis~ sanapiroze<br />

unda gagvetarebina, Tumca<br />

or Rames dedaqalaqSic va-<br />

TevdiT. swored sofiaSi gagvatana<br />

erTma aqaurma megobarma<br />

iqaur megobarTan qarTuli suvenirebi<br />

_ rom CaxvalT, daurekeT,<br />

imas Cemi yuradReba gauxardeba,<br />

Tqven kidev, kargi maspinZeli<br />

geyolebaTo, gvTxova<br />

me, gogi doliZesa da zurab<br />

22 gv.

22 saerTo gazeTi #22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

21 gv.<br />

lolaZes. sofiaSi sastumroSi<br />

davbinavdiT Tu ara, samivem erT<br />

nomerSi moviyareTY Tavi da im<br />

kacTan darekva davapireT. meubnebian<br />

biWebi, midi, Sen daureke,<br />

Sen ufro dalagebulad<br />

auxsni, uTxari, rac xdeba da<br />

barem sastumroSi mogvakiTxoso.<br />

me ki sruliad seriozulad<br />

vpasuxob, damijereT, me nu damarekvinebT,<br />

guli migrZnobs,<br />

raRac ucnauri moxdeba, rogorc<br />

yovelTvis _ an sxvagan<br />

movxvdebi, an misi telefoni ar<br />

imuSavebs, an yurmils aravin<br />

aiRebs, an is kaci sadRac iqneba<br />

wasuli. Tu gindaT, rom yvelaferi<br />

normalurad iyos,<br />

Tqvengan erT-erTma darekosmeTqi.<br />

gogis ecineba da mexveweba,<br />

midi, midi, Sen dareke, `prosto~,<br />

sainteresoa, marTla moxdeba<br />

rame Tu arao... Tu marTla<br />

moxda rame, meored darekvas<br />

xels ra uSliso.<br />

viReb yurmils, gogi ki nomers<br />

mkarnaxobs...<br />

biWos! kacis xmaa... mgoni,<br />

gagvimarTla-meTqi, swrafad Cavulaparake<br />

biWebs yurmilis gareT...<br />

im kacs ki, rac SeiZleba<br />

seriozuli xmiT vekiTxebi: esa<br />

da es brZandebiT-meTqi?<br />

arao, mipasuxa. me misi siZe<br />

var da iqneb miTxraT vin<br />

kiTxulobso...<br />

Tqven me ar micnobT-meTqi<br />

da... yvelaferi detalurad<br />

avuxseni. arc imis Tqma damviwyebia,<br />

romel sastumroSi<br />

viyaviT...<br />

gulisyuriT momismina siZem<br />

da mere iseTi ram miTxra, yurmili<br />

gamivarda xelidan... biWebi<br />

ki cnobismoyvare saxeebiT<br />

Semomcqerian...<br />

mokvda!<br />

vin mokvda... rogor... aba,<br />

vis elaparake...<br />

vis da... siZe iyo. is kaci ki<br />

naxevari saaTis win momkvdara...<br />

xom giTxariT, me nu damarekineb-meTqi,<br />

movkali kaci...<br />

cota xani SevyurebdiT er-<br />

TmaneTs da mere, RmerTo gvapatie,<br />

lamis isterikaSi CavcvivdiT,<br />

imdeni vicineT. kargad<br />

mesmis da geTanxmebiT, ver iyo<br />

mTlad zneobrivi saqcieli, magram<br />

ase iyo da tyuils xom ver<br />

gakadrebT...<br />

Tumca...<br />

epizodi meSvide _<br />

musikam dayvinTa<br />

es ambavi im dros xdeba,<br />

roca yvelaferis Sovna iyo sa-<br />

Wiro, sityva `viyide~ rom saerTod<br />

gaqra leqsikonidan da<br />

igi `viSovem~ Caanacvla. rogorc<br />

Cans, xelisufleba iribad<br />

zrunavda Cvens gabednierebaze,<br />

Tu rames kargs iSovidi,<br />

bednieric iyavi, Tavmomwonec<br />

da amayic.<br />

Tqven warmoidgineT, musika<br />

rom musikaa, isic deficiti<br />

iyo. kargi musikac unda geSova.<br />

nodar paladaSvili gvyavda<br />

maSin televiziaSi, melomani da<br />

marifaTiani biWi, acxonos<br />

RmerTma. dediT qarTveli, mamiT<br />

ebraeli. Tu Tavad hkiTxavdi _<br />

sadauri xaro, RimiliT gipasuxebda,<br />

ar vicio, radgan ebraelebi<br />

qarTvelad mTvlian da<br />

qarTvelebi _ ebraelado.<br />

am nodar paladaSvils siZe<br />

hyavda amerikeli, dis qmari. moments<br />

ar gauSvebda xelidan, ar<br />

waetrabaxa, Cemi siZe amerikis<br />

fexburTelTa olimpiuri nakrebis<br />

eqimiao. swored es eqimi<br />

siZe ugzavnida nodars rCeul<br />

albomebs rCeuli musikiT. ase<br />

rom, kargi musikis Sovna Tu<br />

gindoda, aqve axlos, sololakSi,<br />

anu nodar paladaSvil-<br />

Tan unda geZebna.<br />

bevri viCaliCe Tu cota,<br />

mec movipove Cveni sololakeli<br />

melomanis keTilganwyoba da<br />

erT mSvenier dRes ubednieresi<br />

kaci gavxdi, xumroba saqme xom<br />

ar iyo, axalTaxali, maqsvelis<br />

firmis SesaniSnavi musikiT ga-<br />

ZeZgili 12 audiokaseta Cavigde<br />

xelSi.<br />

erT dRes televizias morigi<br />

maRali rangis stumari ewvia,<br />

Tanac qalbatoni.<br />

gogi doliZe, gia WiraqaZe,<br />

zurab lolaZe da me, marTalia<br />

maSin teleJurnalistebi gaxldiT,<br />

magram Zalian xSirad maspinZlebadac<br />

`vmuSaobdiT~ xolme,<br />

gansakuTebiT SabaT-kviras.<br />

axlac gadawyda, rom stumar<br />

qalbatonTan erTad SabaTi<br />

da kvirac Tbilisis zRvaze<br />

iaxtaze gagvetarebina qarTvel<br />

iaxtsmenTa maSindel lider,<br />

baton iliko feraZesTan erTad.<br />

swored ilikom miTxra, Seni<br />

kasetebis wamoReba ar dagaviwydeso.<br />

Tormetive wamoiRe,<br />

vnaxoT, romeli moewoneba stumarso...<br />

saRamos, qalaqSi rom<br />

vbrundebodiT, Cemi kasetebi<br />

movagrove da momaqvs. meubneba<br />

iliko, xvalac aq amovdivarT<br />

da eg kasetebi barem dagetovebina<br />

iaxtazeo...<br />

davtovebdi, iliko, magram<br />

ra vici, rame ar moxdes, Cemi<br />

bedis ambavi xom ici, am kasetebis<br />

Tavmoyras ki eqvsi Tve movundi-meTqi.<br />

_ biWo, am iaxtas 16 kaci<br />

yaraulobs Rame, ase rom, eg<br />

Seni kasetebi aq ufro uxifa-<br />

Tod iqneba, vidre didubeSi me-<br />

8 sarTulze, _ gaocda iliko.<br />

raRa meqna?! kargi, kargimeTqi,<br />

CaviburdRune da kasetebiani<br />

parki gadavawode, aha da<br />

kargad Cakete-meTqi.<br />

im Rames iaxta CaiZira!<br />

diliT zRvaze rom avediT,<br />

buxtaSi mxolod Cveni iaxtis<br />

anZis wveri da mis garSemo oblad<br />

motivtive Cemi Tormetive<br />

kaseta moCanda.<br />

cota xans gaognebulebi<br />

SevcqerodiT am suraTs da mere<br />

ilikom mSvidad Tqva: dayvinTa<br />

Senma musikamo...<br />

es, albaT, bolo wveTi iyo,<br />

situaciis absurdulobam sicilis<br />

xasiaTze dagvayena da yvelani,<br />

vinc maSin napirze videqiT,<br />

didxans da gulianad vicinodiT.<br />

Tumca...<br />

epizodi merve,<br />

romelic jer<br />

ar damTavrebula<br />

da, romelic agvixsnis Tu<br />

ratomaa saqarTvelo dRemde<br />

CemsaviT uiRblo da ratomaa<br />

yvelaferi Cemi brali.<br />

2003 wels, gazeT `kviris<br />

palitris~ oqtombris erT-erT<br />

nomerSi gamovaqveyne statia,<br />

sadac sxvadasxva xasiaTis gulistkivilTan<br />

erTad imasac<br />

vuziarebdi mkiTxvels, Tu rogori<br />

prezidenti msurda Cemi<br />

qveynisTvis. Tavidan bolomde<br />

wminda wylis survilebi iyo es<br />

da kidev, Zalzed moridebuli<br />

rCeva momavali liderisTvis.<br />

(kidev erTxel mivaqcev<br />

Tqvens yuradebas statiis gamoqveynebis<br />

TariRs, 2003 wlis<br />

oqtomberi, anu daaxloebiT<br />

erT TveSi saqarTveloSi vardi<br />

gaifurCqneba).<br />

qveynis lideri im asakis<br />

unda iyos, roca moazrovne<br />

adamians araerTxel aqvs gadasinjuli<br />

da awon-dawonili<br />

ganvlili cxovreba _ vwerdi<br />

am statiaSi.<br />

_ unda hqondes gamocdileba,<br />

azarti, energia, SiSis Zlevis<br />

unari, sidinje da auCqarebloba,<br />

Tavmdabloba, oponentebis<br />

pativiscema, gawonasworebuli<br />

optimizmi, simarTle, samarTlianoba,<br />

globaluri azrovneba,<br />

analizis unari, dumilis<br />

xelovneba, adamianTa Ser-<br />

Cevis unari, diplomatiis Tandayolili<br />

niWi, Sesaxedaoba,<br />

Rirseba, Tavganwirva.<br />

statiaSi kidev bevri ram<br />

iyo CamoTvlili, magram Cven aq<br />

davamTavroT da barem isic<br />

vTqvaT, rom prezidentis ori<br />

umTavresi aucilebeli Tviseba<br />

gamovtove maSin Segnebulad,<br />

verc Cems Tavs vakadre da verc<br />

savaraudo prezidents imis<br />

Tqma, rom samSoblosa da saku-<br />

Tari xalxis siyvarulic aucilebeli<br />

ramaa...<br />

ai, es aRar miTqvams xmamaRla,<br />

mxolod vigulisxme da<br />

Tqven warmoidgineT, Cemi uiRbloba<br />

imdenad mgrZnobiare aRmoCnda,<br />

rom yvelaferTan erTad<br />

esec gaiTvaliswina da sul ra-<br />

Rac erT TveSi moiyvana mixeil<br />

saakaSvili.<br />

gaigeT axla ratomaa yvelaferi<br />

Cemi brali?! me rom es<br />

statia ar damewera, anda yvelaferi<br />

piriqiT meTqva, xom<br />

vicxovrebdiT axla samoTxeSi.<br />

epizodi mecxre _ Tumca!<br />

axla erTi saidumlo unda<br />

gagimxiloT. Cemi totaluri<br />

uiRblobis miuxedavad, maSin<br />

roca yvelaferi damTavrebuli<br />

da gadawuruli rom mgonia, moulodnelad<br />

koridaze gamovardnili<br />

xariviT movardeba xolme<br />

xsna da ixsneba kvanZi.<br />

gikvirT xom?! mec Zalian<br />

mikvirs, magram asea da ra vqna.<br />

gaxsovT, yoveli epizodis<br />

bolos erTi sityva _ `Tumca...~<br />

rom davtoveT haerSi sapnis<br />

buStiviT gamokidebuli? gaxsovT<br />

xom?! hoda, droa axla<br />

Svidive Tumcas mivubrundeT da<br />

epizodebic rigrigobiT davasruloT.<br />

epizodi pirveli _ wamo,<br />

wavixemsoT...<br />

...Tumca, `bufetCik boleno~,<br />

xom gaxsovT? raRa gveqna<br />

me da daTos. davrCiT mSivrebi,<br />

magram mainc mxiarulad avbrundiT<br />

Cvens sarTulze, wamoRebul<br />

sagzalze gvqonda gaTvla.<br />

iq ki biWebs erT-erT nomerSi<br />

ukve moeyaraT Tavi. fexi SevdgiT<br />

Tu ara, maSinve sanTlis<br />

arayi momaCeCes xelSi. gamovar-<br />

Tvi da vTqvi, modi es im mebufetes<br />

gaumarjos, dRes rom<br />

avad gaxda-meTqi...<br />

epizodi meore _ wyaroze<br />

Cagiyvan da...<br />

...Tumca, wyali ki Sewyda<br />

TvaldaxelSua, magram gamodis<br />

am dros Cemi nacnobi Senobidan,<br />

modis manqanisaken da xelSi<br />

ori boTli daorTqlili `hainekeni~<br />

uWiravs...<br />

epizodi mesame _ bzikis geografia<br />

...Tumca, gadis xani da mirekavs<br />

Cemi kaxeli Zmobili _ bi-<br />

Woo, Sena marTali yofilxar,<br />

CemTvis unda ekbina im bziksa,<br />

magrama... xo ici, Cemi ezos bziki<br />

iyo da... etyoba moerida, Tanac<br />

geografiasTan, Cemi ar<br />

iyos, kaxeli bzikebic mwyralad<br />

arian, gaigee?!<br />

epizodi meoTxe _ RamisTeva<br />

liftSi<br />

...Tumca liftioris Semcvleli<br />

sadRac sastumrosTan<br />

axlos nardis TamaSs Sehyolia<br />

Turme, sinaTle rom Caqra,<br />

ufiqria, axla saxlSi wasvlas<br />

jobs, sastumroSi mivide da<br />

iqve wavuZinebo. movida kidec<br />

da Zalian male gvixsna tyveobidan.<br />

epizodi mexuTe _ Coxa da<br />

`mzeTunaxavi~<br />

...Tumca Cvenma impresariom<br />

Jozefa martelim aeroportSi<br />

rom dareka, im qalbatons ukve<br />

darekilic hqonda da Tavisi misamarTi<br />

da telefonic datovebuli.<br />

yvelaze didi saocreba<br />

ki is gaxldaT, rom is qalbatonic<br />

viSiSi cxovrobda da matarebliTac<br />

erTad gvimgzavria<br />

Turme... damTxveva xom ginda!<br />

maleve mogvakiTxa Cemi `mxeTunaxaviT~<br />

da meore dRes koncertsac<br />

daeswro...<br />

epizodi meeqvse _ bulgareTSi<br />

ra gindoda...<br />

...Tumca, ara, ara... is kaci<br />

naRdad ar gacocxlebula. mxolod<br />

misma siZem mogvZebna sastumroSi,<br />

erTi boTli `varcixe~<br />

gamocala, saCuqrebi waiRo<br />

da saRamos saxlSic mivakiTxeT<br />

samZimarze.<br />

epizodi meSvide _ musikam<br />

dayvinTa<br />

...Tumca, naviT Securdnen<br />

zRvaSi biWebi, Tormetive kaseta<br />

napirze gamoitanes. gadayras<br />

vapirebdi, magram ra ici, ra<br />

xdeba, modi gavaSroTo, ilikom.<br />

saRamoxans Tormetive kaseta<br />

Zveleburad ukravda da<br />

RvTaebriv musikas talRebis<br />

Soreuli da idumali Srialic<br />

erTvoda Tan.<br />

P.S erTaderTi `TumcaRa~<br />

gvrCeba gauSifravi. erTaderTi,<br />

magram yvelaze mTavari, saprezidento<br />

`Tumca~, magram mis<br />

gasaSifrad lodini mogviwevs.<br />

Tanac magas mxolod me verafers<br />

movuxerxeb, eg iseTi ji-<br />

Sis `Tumcaa~, rom yvelam er-<br />

Tad, anu mTelma saqarTvelom<br />

unda gavSifroT oqtomberi<br />

Temur Wkuaseli<br />

aprili, 2012 weli

#22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

saerTo gazeTi<br />

23<br />

interviu gldanis iveriis<br />

yovlawminda RvTismSoblis<br />

taZris winamZRvarTan mama basil<br />

mkalaviSvilTan<br />

_ mamao basil, sakmao dro<br />

gavida Tqveni gamomafxizlebeli<br />

sityvebi ar gvixilavs presis<br />

furclebze, ras gvetyodiT<br />

axals?<br />

_ saxeliTa mamisaTa da ZisaTa<br />

da sulisa wmindisaTa,<br />

CvenTan ars RmerTi.<br />

minda giTxraT, erTi wuTiT<br />

yuradReba ar momidunebia qveyanaSi<br />

mimdinare movlenebTan dakavSirebiT,<br />

Cemi fiqri da goneba<br />

gamudmebiT mas dastrialebs,<br />

mxolod amJamad dakavebuli viyavi<br />

eklesiis ezos keTilmowyobiT.<br />

_ im braldebasTan dakavSirebiT,<br />

ris gamoc Tqven wlebis<br />

ganmavlobaSi satusaRoSi imyofebodiT,<br />

dResac azrTa sxvadasxvaobaa,<br />

zogierTi religiebis<br />

Semwynareblobasac qadagebs.<br />

_ risTvis momisajes 6 weli.<br />

iqneb imisTvis, rom bokerias<br />

suraTebi davwviT parlamentis<br />

Senobis win, vebrZodiT antiqristes<br />

mociqulebs _ Tavisuflebis<br />

institutis mesveurebs.<br />

me xom maTi piradi patimari<br />

viyavi? asea dResac. vinc<br />

ar moswonT _ yvelas iWeren da<br />

cixeSi gzavnian.<br />

dRes religiis sakiTxSi<br />

mTel msoflioSi marTlac qaosia.<br />

yoveldRiurad iqmneba<br />

axal-axali religiuri dajgufebebi.<br />

Tugind aviRoT `ieRovelebis~<br />

mimdevrebi. rogor<br />

SeiZleba maT endos kaci. es<br />

seqta viRac TaRliTma vaWarma<br />

raselma Camoayaliba, romelmac<br />

gamosca Jurnali, sadac Tavis<br />

produqcias reklamas ukeTebda.<br />

bolos es pirovneba aferistobisTvis<br />

cixeSi Casves.<br />

dRes ki ieRovelebi rasels<br />

TavianT RmerTad Tvlian.<br />

ieRovelebi acxadeben, rom<br />

Turme saqarTveloSi qristianoba<br />

XX saukuneSi Semosula.<br />

pirveli ieRoveli saqarTveloSi<br />

1953 wels fiqsirdeba.<br />

zRvari aqvT magaT mkrexelobas?<br />

ver amixsnia, sapatriarqos<br />

warmomadgenlebi xmas ratom ar<br />

iReben. swored maTi valia atexon<br />

gangaSi.<br />

me, Cemi gasakeTebeli wlebis<br />

win gavakeTe. SevaCere ieRovelebisa<br />

da sxva seqtebis gamravleba<br />

da TareSi. amjerad ukve<br />

asakovani var da sakmaod<br />

avadmyofi. advili ar iyo CemTvis<br />

5 weli cixeSi yofna. iqedan<br />

TiTqmis dauZlurebuli gamovedi.<br />

miuxedavad amisa, presi-<br />

Ta Tu internetiT vebrZvi yovelgvar<br />

usamarTlobas.<br />

_ mamao, ar dagvaviwydes,<br />

rom sapatriarqos sasuliero<br />

pirni xSirad akeTeben gancxadebebs<br />

usamarTlobis winaaRmdeg.<br />

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />

internetSi<br />

www.saertogazeti.ge<br />

SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />

es iyo gamafrTxilebeli miwisZvra, romelic<br />

migvaniSnebs, rom Tu isev gaagrZeleben RvTis<br />

sawinaaRmdego qmedebebs, Sedegic ar daayovnebs<br />

visac surs iveriis RmrTismSoblis xatis namdvili asli naxos,<br />

mobrZandiT Cvens eklesiaSi da naxeT misi namdvili saxe<br />

_ TiTqmis yvela sasuliero<br />

pirTa interviuebs vkiTxulob.<br />

samwuxarod, imaTgan Zalian<br />

mciredni arian, vinc xmas imaRlebs<br />

arsebul saSinelebaTa winaaRmdeg.<br />

amas winaT wavikiTxe<br />

mRvdel zaqaria ZinZibaZis interviu.<br />

is acxadebs: `licenzia<br />

maqvs, romlis mixedviTac, fizikaze<br />

dayrdnobiT, SesaZlebelia<br />

miwisZvris zusti prognozireba.<br />

licenzirebuli maqvs<br />

cunamis SeCerebis saSualebao~..<br />

Se kai dedmamiSvilo, Tu ise-<br />

Ti Zala gaqvs, rom cunamis SeCereba<br />

SegiZlia, SeaCere pirvel<br />

rigSi, marTlmadideblobis mtrebi<br />

da is usamarTlo movlenebi,<br />

romelic saqarTveloSi xdeba.<br />

_ mamao, yvelasTvis cnobilia,<br />

lagodexSi deda RmrTism-<br />

Sobeli tiris.<br />

_ maSin, roca qveyanas<br />

uWirs da gansacdelSia, xsna<br />

ar Cans, xatebi winaswar amcneben<br />

cremldeniT, an sisxlis<br />

deniT. deda RmrTisa rogor iqneba<br />

dawynarebuli, roca misi<br />

wilxvedri qveyana marTlac<br />

gansacdelSia? amitom, bunebrivia,<br />

kargs arafers migvaniSnebs<br />

yovelive es.<br />

_ Tqvens eklesias Tqven ratom<br />

uwodeT maincdamainc iveriis<br />

RmrTismSoblis saxeli?<br />

_ 2000 wels, saswaulebrivad,<br />

yovelgvari sabuTis gareSe<br />

movxvdi aTonis mTaze. sami<br />

dRis ganmavlobaSi vevedrebodi<br />

iveriis RmrTismSoblis xats<br />

saqarTvelos gadarCenas. Sevpirdi,<br />

roca davbrundebodi,<br />

mis saxelze avaSenebdi eklesias.<br />

roca daCoqili vloculobdi,<br />

vgrZnobdi, rom qristes meored<br />

mosvlis win es xati saqarTveloSi<br />

CamobrZandeboda da<br />

damkvidrdeboda im taZarSi,<br />

romlis aSenebasac me vapirebdi.<br />

amas Tavis droze adasturebda<br />

beri gabrieli. roca mas eki-<br />

Txebodnen, romel taZarSi damkvidrdeboda<br />

iveriis RmrTism-<br />

Soblis xati saqarTveloSi<br />

dabrunebisas, is yovelTvis pasuxobda:<br />

is eklesia jer aSenebuli<br />

ar aris da mas aaSenebs<br />

morwmuneTa patara jgufio. axla<br />

vxvdebi, maSin Cems taZarze<br />

iyo saubari, romelic marTlac<br />

mrevlis mciredi SemowirulobiT<br />

aSenda. es sapatriarqom<br />

mSvenivrad icis da swored amitom<br />

daiwyes paralelurad maxaTas<br />

mTaze iveriis RmrTism-<br />

Soblis saxelze taZris mSenebloba,<br />

romelsac, albaT, aramarTlmadidebelTa<br />

mier Sewiruli<br />

milionebi aaSenebs.<br />

minda xalxma gaigos,<br />

rom iveriis Rmr-<br />

TismSoblis xatis namdvili<br />

asli me CamovabrZane<br />

aTonis mTidan.<br />

is, romelic berZnebma<br />

gamougzavnes sapatriarqos<br />

1989 wels<br />

da saerTo araferi<br />

aqvs iveriis RmrTism-<br />

Soblis xatebTan. roca<br />

maxaTas mTaze sa-<br />

Zirkveli akurTxes, iq<br />

miabrZanes milanis<br />

RmrTismSoblis xatis<br />

asli.<br />

visac surs iveriis<br />

RmrTismSoblis xatis<br />

namdvili asli naxos,<br />

mobrZandiT Cvens eklesiaSi<br />

da naxeT misi<br />

namdvili saxe.<br />

_ mama basil, mosaxleobas<br />

ebadeba kiTxva eleqtropasportebTan<br />

dakavSirebiT, aseve CipebTan<br />

mimarTebaSi. Tu yovelive<br />

es antiqristes wina periodia,<br />

elias da enuqis mosvliT<br />

ra unda gvemcnoso?<br />

_ metad saintereso kiTxvaa.<br />

es sakiTxi sapatriarqos mosagvarebelia.<br />

magaliTad, saberZneTSi<br />

pasportebTan dakavSirebiT<br />

sapatriarqom oficialuri<br />

moTxovna gaakeTa xelisuflebasTan.<br />

Cvens SemTxvevaSi piriqiTaa,<br />

xelisufleba marTavs sapatriarqos.<br />

rac Seexeba eliasa da enuqis<br />

mosvlas. ioane naTlismcemeli<br />

mogvevlina, raTa gza ganemzadebina<br />

uflis mosvlisaTvis.<br />

eliasa da enuqis gamoCena<br />

ki imis momaswavebelia, rom<br />

uflis meored mobrZaneba moaxlebul<br />

ars da isinic gzas umzadeben<br />

ufals TumcaRa sanam<br />

mobrZandeba, mravalni movlen<br />

keTili angelozis saxiT da<br />

TviT uflis saxiT da isini<br />

saswaulebs moaxdenen. wminda<br />

werili gvamcnebs _ bolo Jams<br />

rCeulnic Secdebiano. amitom<br />

unda viyvneT fxizlad, raTa ar<br />

gavebaT maT sacecebSi.<br />

_ momravlda gasarTobi sanaxaobani,<br />

sadac sasuliero pirni<br />

wina rigebSi sxedan, es xom<br />

ar aris is `sacecebi~, romleb-<br />

Sic TviT RvTismsaxurnic ki<br />

ebmebian?<br />

_ sjulis kanoni gvaswavlis,<br />

rom, roca saero Teatraluri<br />

warmodgenebi daiwyeba,<br />

sasuliero pirni unda gaecalon<br />

iqaurobas. sapatriarqos<br />

warmomadgenelTa mimarTebaSi<br />

ki sul sxvagvarad aris saqme.<br />

amas winaT baTumSi dadgmul<br />

mkrexelur `qeTo da kotes~<br />

warmodgenaze wina rigSi isxdnen<br />

da aplodismentebiTac ajildoebdnen<br />

egzaltirebul, zRvars<br />

gadasul msaxiobebs.<br />

dRes eklesia swyalobs msaxiobebs.<br />

arian iseTebic, romlebic<br />

Zalian axlo, saeWvo urTierTobaSi<br />

imyofebian sasuliero<br />

pirebTan. es cota rTuli<br />

sakiTxia. aseve, aRsarebis saidumloc.<br />

aravin icis, vin ra<br />

moinania da rogor. modiT, gansasjelad<br />

es uzenaess mivandoT,<br />

romelic yvelas gulis<br />

nadebis ganmxilvelia.<br />

rusTavelis Teatridan batoni<br />

robert sturua gaagdes,<br />

raTa warmoedginaT sazogadoebisTvis<br />

is mkrexeluri dadgmebi,<br />

romelic miuRebelia marTlmadidebelTaTvis.<br />

SeiZleba<br />

adamians guli gauskdes, imdeni<br />

uzneoba moedineba cxovrebis<br />

yvela sferodan. yovelTvis vimeoreb<br />

da axlac vityvi, sapatriarqo<br />

yvelaferze dums, rac<br />

niSnavs, rom TanaugrZnobs maT.<br />

minda gamcnoT kidev erTi<br />

RmrTissawinaaRmdego qmedeba.<br />

faqtobrivi prezidenti mixeil<br />

saakaSvili xom yvelafers religiisa<br />

da marTlmadideblobis<br />

winaaRmdeg Cadis. 6 maiss wmida<br />

giorgis xsenebis dResaswaulze<br />

man baTumSi gaxsna viRac arabi<br />

Seixis saxelobis parki. swored<br />

amitom iyo RmerTma ar daayovna,<br />

meore dResve moxda gamafrTxilebeli<br />

miwisZvra, romelic<br />

migvaniSnebs, rom<br />

vinc RmrTis sawinaaRmdego<br />

nabijebs gadadgams,<br />

ar gvapatiebs da<br />

sasjelsac mogvagebs.<br />

_ dRes RvTismsaxurnic wyevlian<br />

urjuloebas. ramdenad<br />

marTebulia mRvdlis wyevla?<br />

es codva ar aris?<br />

_ Tqven gainteresebT ramdenad<br />

gamarTlebulia eklesiurad<br />

e.w. wyevla. adamians yvela<br />

codva mieteveba, garda suliwmidis<br />

gmobisa. vinaidan dRevandeli<br />

xelisufleba TavianTi<br />

qmedebiT suliwmidis mgmobelebi<br />

arian. zogierTi beri isea<br />

SeZrwunebuli umsgavso yofierebiT,<br />

warmosTqvamen wyevlis<br />

sityvebs.<br />

_ mamao, verafriT dagvamSvidebT?<br />

_ samwuxarod, jerjerobiT<br />

verafriT dagamSvidebT.<br />

saakaSvilis mosvla daiwyo<br />

Cveni eklesiis darbeviT. maSin<br />

qarTveli xalxi dumda da dRes<br />

am xelisuflebis mware maTraxi<br />

TiTqmis yvelas moxvda. amitom<br />

xalxi ukve aRaravis endoba,<br />

miuxedavad amisa, gpirdebiT<br />

_ es mZime, ekliani, jvarcmis<br />

gza qarTvel ers gasavleli<br />

aqvs, radgan swored amas mohyveba<br />

bolo Jams iveriis gabrwyineba.<br />

es aucileblad moxdeba.<br />

iranda kalandaZe

24 saerTo gazeTi #22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

mogzauroba samSobloSi<br />

sofel orTubanSi, zovreTis<br />

cixe-darbazis kompleqsis garda,<br />

samasiod metrSi naqalaqaris abanoc<br />

aris SemorCenili, romelic<br />

gviani SuasaukuneebiT TariRdeba.<br />

rogorc Cans, swored aq _ or-<br />

Tuban-zovreTSi werda zaza cnobil<br />

samecniero naSroms (`samkurnalo<br />

wigni karabadini~), romelic<br />

vaxuSti batoniSvils mouZiebia da<br />

aukinZavs. darwmunebuli var, rom<br />

orTubnis abanos marto higienuri<br />

daniSnuleba ar eqneboda da misi<br />

abazanebi samkurnalodac gamoiyeneboda<br />

erT dros. abanos saerTo<br />

sigrZe 15 metria, sigane _ 7 m.<br />

yvela mTavari oTaxi gumbaTiania.<br />

zaza mkurnalis moRvaweobis<br />

Temam TavisTavad imis survili gamiCina,<br />

rom sofelSi mcenareuli<br />

wamlebis Tanamedrove damamzadebelic<br />

aRmomeCina. orTubanSi Ziri-<br />

Tadad osuri warmomavlobis ojaxebi<br />

cxovroben. maT Soris veranairi<br />

aqimi ver aRmovaCine, magram<br />

bedad aWaridan Camosaxlebuli Tina<br />

gabaiZe mimaswavles. axalgazrda<br />

qalma Tavdapirvelad aivanze gasaxmobad<br />

gaSlili nairgvari yvavilebi<br />

da balaxeuli maCvena, mere<br />

ki Tavis afTiaqSic SemiZRva. iq<br />

ramdenime daxarisxebuli kona, er-<br />

Ti-ori malamo da is siTxe miCvena,<br />

romelic gvelis nakbenisa da<br />

zogadad Sxamis sawinaaRmdego<br />

uebari saSualeba yofila.<br />

TxrobaSi gabaiZeTa gearis Semoyvanam<br />

sxva Temis gaxsnis saSualebac<br />

mogvca: daaxloebiT 20-22<br />

wlis winaT xeobaSi aWaris namati<br />

mosaxleoba dafuZnda. igi kompaqturad<br />

sofel gverZineTSi dasaxlda.<br />

es sofeli saistorio wyaroebSi<br />

1658 wlis erTi sabuTiT<br />

fiqsirdeba _ cici ciciSvils aq<br />

14 komli yma hyolia: sisaurebi,<br />

RoRaZeebi da mraWvelebi. Semdeg<br />

am gvarebs gasitaSvilebi, mWedliSvilebi,<br />

WulukaSvilebi da gelaSvilebi<br />

Sematebian. osmalosTan<br />

da iranel dampyrobTa winaaRmdeg<br />

brZolasa Tu SinaaSlilobas sofeli<br />

TiTqmis sruliad dauclia<br />

da 1862-1864 wlebSi aq osebi CamousaxlebiaT.<br />

gasuli saukunis<br />

90-ian wlebis dasawyisSi gverZineTeli<br />

osebis erTi nawili ayrila<br />

da maT nacvlad maRalmTiani<br />

aWaris sofel riyidan mosuli ko-<br />

CaliZeebi, gorgaZeebi, gelaZeebi,<br />

anTaZeebi da xozrevaniZeebi dafuZnebulan.<br />

2003 wels aq axalmosaxleTa<br />

30 komli cxovrobda da 9-<br />

wlian skolaSi 65 moswavle<br />

iricxeboda. Cveni satelevizio gadamRebi<br />

jgufi swored am skolis<br />

direqtoris mixeil koCaliZis<br />

saxlSi dabinavda.<br />

im Ramis gverZineTs kidev er-<br />

Ti yrma, vefxia Seemata.<br />

meore dRes alions davaswariT<br />

da yvelaze ufro saintereso nataZralTa<br />

Semovla daviwyeT. aq<br />

odesRac ersa da eklesias burjad<br />

edgnen netari mamebi. Tavdapirvelad<br />

imerxevisken gavwieT, sadac<br />

ZaZvis samonastro kompleqsi gveguleboda.<br />

xeobaSi Sesvla sofel<br />

elbaqianidan SeiZleba. namonastrali<br />

aqedan 5-6 kilometrSia, magram<br />

gza Zalian cudia. am monastris<br />

mTavari nageboba, romelic sanaxevrod<br />

daqceula, ioane naTlismcemlisa<br />

yofila da mSeneblobis<br />

stiliT VIII-IX saukuneebs ganekuTvneba.<br />

eklesia nagebia rogorc<br />

fleTili qviT, ise qviSaqvisa da<br />

Sirimis Tlili lodebiT. sakur-<br />

Txevlis nalisebri afsidi darbazidan<br />

qvis kankeliT yofila gamoyofili,<br />

romlis rvawaxnaga svetebis<br />

natexebi aqa-iqaa gabneuli.<br />

gvian xanaSi eklesia mouxatavT,<br />

magram gamosaxuleba aRar ikiTxeba.<br />

taZris garda galavanSemovlebul<br />

kompleqsSi (daaxloebiT 1<br />

ha.) mdgara mozrdili satrapezo<br />

(14,5X9 m), orsarTuliani samreklo<br />

da senakebi, romelTagan<br />

axla mxolod<br />

nangrevebia Semonaxuli.<br />

ezos teritoriaze<br />

aris<br />

ramdenime sameurneo<br />

xaro.<br />

... ZaZvidan gver-<br />

ZineTSi vbrundebiT,<br />

iqidan ki samxreTiT<br />

miveSurebiT. gaviareT<br />

patara soflebi<br />

wiflovani da<br />

kodmana, nasoflari<br />

tyemlovana da marjvniv,<br />

tyeSi axal-<br />

Zveli<br />

da<br />

axali<br />

burjebi<br />

Zamis xeoba<br />

gayvanil, cicabo<br />

gzas avuyeviT. sabednierod<br />

es gza<br />

300 metrze meti ar<br />

aRmoCnda, Torem manqanis<br />

Zravi aseT<br />

datvirTvas veRar<br />

gauZlebda.<br />

samoTxes, romelSic<br />

aRmovCndiT,<br />

qozifa hqvia.<br />

mexsierebaSi samudamod<br />

CaibeWda ma-<br />

Rali, foTlovani<br />

tye, mozrdili, mosworebuli<br />

adgili<br />

am tyeSi, eklesiaTa<br />

nangevebi, axali, xis<br />

aivniani keliebi,<br />

Zveli da ganaxlebuli qozifa da misi maSenebeli berebi<br />

uzarmazari kviparosi,<br />

mcire mtili,<br />

sxva freskebi. samxreT kedelze Zveli monastris gacocxlebisTvis:<br />

ocamde ska, moWixvine iabo, Semonaxulia `RvTismSoblis taZrad<br />

wesrigSi mohyavdaT terito-<br />

CrdilqveS wamowolili kravi,<br />

miyvaneba~. kompleqsSi Semavaria,<br />

agrovebdnen gafantul qvebsa<br />

ori nagazi da frinvelTa gadaZaxili.<br />

li danarCeni oTxi eklesia uxe- da ber-monazonTa neStebs. erT-er-<br />

veranairad ver vifiqrebdi Sad damuSavebuli, dakuTxuli Ti sruliad daqceuli eklesiis<br />

Tu erT mcire monakveTSi amdeni,<br />

nairgvarad mgalobeli frTosani<br />

qvebiTaa nagebi, `RvTismSobeli~ ki<br />

sufTad gaTlili bazaltis kvadrebiT.<br />

qveS maT miagnes kriptas da iq dacul<br />

wminda nawilebs ezos sxva<br />

budobda.<br />

SemorCenilia TandarTuli monakveTebSi aRmoCenili mamebis<br />

qozifis samonastro kompleqs-<br />

Si erTmaneTze midgmuli 5 darbazuli<br />

qvis kankelis fragmentebic.<br />

kompleqsis arseboba cnobili<br />

Zvlebic daumates. kriptaSi Casvlisas<br />

Tavzari daeca Cveni gverZi-<br />

eklesia mdgara. maTgan ori iyo (samecniero literaturaSi neTeli maspinZlis me-8 klasel vaqvis<br />

VII-IX saukuneebis yofila, ori _<br />

XV-XVI da erTic _ XIII saukunisa.<br />

amaTgan yvelaze didi, centraluri<br />

taZari swored es ukanasknelia<br />

igi gugomis saxeliTaa Setanili),<br />

magram bolo dros, Turme, tyes<br />

ise gadaevlo, rom axalgazrda berebs<br />

gaWirvebiT miugniaT. mas Sem-<br />

JiSvils, romelic Tan gvaxlda mamamisis<br />

TxovniT. mereRa gavigeT,<br />

rom igi mounaTlavi iyo. amdenad,<br />

mis momaval gaqristianebaSi mcilis<br />

(17,85X7,85m). RvTismSobdeg<br />

ewoda kompleqss qozifa pareodeni<br />

wvlili Cvenc SevitaneT<br />

saxelobis saydari agebisTanave<br />

mouxatavT. marTalia `RvTismSobeli~,<br />

sxva aqauri saydrebis<br />

msgavsad, romeliRac epoqaSi Zalian<br />

lestinaSi arsebuli erTi monastris<br />

msgavsad. dangreuli eklesiebi<br />

xelaxla akurTxes RvTismSoblis,<br />

lazares, wminda giorgis da<br />

amdeni siwmindis CvenebiT.<br />

im dRes monastris saZmodan<br />

adgilze mxolod morCili lazare<br />

dagvxvda, romelic purs acxobda.<br />

dangreula, magram SemorCe-<br />

SiomRvimis saxelobaze. berebis danarCeni berebi, mezoblad mdebalestinaSi<br />

nil konqSi isev Cans `vedreba~, saZmo, winamZRvar Sios moTaveobiT re muxileTis monastris winamZRvars<br />

`xati mandilisai~, mociqulebi, da mitropolit iobis mzrunvelobiT,<br />

mama zenons exmarebodnen mSe-<br />

eklesiis mamebi da XIII saukunis<br />

dResa da Rames asworebda neblobaSi. lazarem SemogvTavaza,<br />

urbnisisa da ruisis eparqia: wiflovanis, orxevisa da tbeTis axali saydrebi<br />

rom is Rame qozifaSi gagveTenebina<br />

saZmos srul SemadgenlobasTan<br />

erTad, romelic Sebindebisas dabruneboda,<br />

magram Cven maTi gacnoba<br />

muxileTSi vamjobineT.<br />

muxileTi gverZineTsa da tyemlovanas<br />

Sorisaa, ufro konkretulad<br />

ki Zamis im Senakadis bolo-<br />

Sia, romelic tyemlovanamde erTvis<br />

xeobis mTavar mdinares. amave<br />

xazzea, oRond xevis TavSi, abuxalos<br />

berTa qvabebi.<br />

muxileTis monasterSi iolad<br />

mivediT. igi RvTismSoblis dangreuli<br />

eklesiisa da ramdenime xis<br />

senakisgan Sedgeboda maSin. berebi<br />

zenon iyalToelis saxelobis eklesias<br />

uyridnen saZirkvels. niadagis<br />

gaWra ukve moemTavrebinaT<br />

da axla Soriaxlodan ezidebodnen<br />

sabalavre qvebs. SromaSi Cabmuli<br />

amdeni ber-monazoni aqamde<br />

arasdros menaxa da axla sul<br />

sxvagvarad warmomidga es sazogadoeba.<br />

gansakuTrebiT qozifis monastris<br />

24 wlis iRumenma mama Siom<br />

miiqcia Cemi yuradReba. Sroma-<br />

Si xom misabaZi iyo da Sesvenebis<br />

drosac yvelasgan gamoirCeoda mozomili<br />

sityviT (naTelSi amyofos<br />

ufalma misi suli. sam weliwadSi<br />

arqimandriti gaxda, magram avtokatastrofaSi<br />

daiRupa).<br />

male ruis-urbniseli mitropoliti<br />

iobic amovida da kidev<br />

erTi axali aRmoCena gavakeTe: es<br />

iyo WeSmariti mamisa da Svilebis<br />

Sexvedra _ gulisxmieri, ubralo<br />

da mokrZalebuli, romelic trafaretebisa<br />

da yalbi etiketebisagan<br />

daclili iyo. `me erTi ubralo<br />

beri var~ _ xSirad maxsendeba<br />

mitropolitis sakuTari Tavis<br />

daxasiaTeba, magram sityva `ubraloSi~<br />

im dRidan pirvelyofil<br />

marcvals vxedav. mas Semdeg, ager<br />

ukve, aTma welma ganvlo. eparqia<br />

yovelnairad ayvavda. uamravi nataZrali<br />

ferflidan aRsdga da<br />

uamravi axali taZari aigo misi<br />

ZalisxmeviT. yvelas CamosaTvlelad<br />

erTi da ori werilic ki ver<br />

ikmarebs. eklesia-monastrebi, ra<br />

Tqma unda, mrevlis SemowirulobebiTac<br />

Sendeba, magram mTavari mainc<br />

eparqiis 400-mde muxlCauxreli,<br />

kabagaxunebuli ber-monazvnis<br />

damsaxurebaa. isini mTel dros<br />

locvasa da SromaSi atareben,<br />

mZRolebic arian, kiriTxuronic,<br />

durglebic da Sikrikebic. iSvia-<br />

Tia aseTi eparqia!<br />

xelSi Tu Cauvarda es werili,<br />

SeiZleba misayveduros kidec meufem<br />

aseTi SesxmisTvis, magram sxvagvarad<br />

ar mZalmiZs. iSviaTia ase-<br />

Ti marTlmadidebeli saWeTmpyrobeli<br />

dRes: beri _ yrmis umankoebiT,<br />

moZRvari mwvrTnelis mom-<br />

TxovnelobiT, klde viTarca sarwmunoebis<br />

burji, mebrZoli da Seupovari<br />

qarTveli rogorc Tornike<br />

erisTavi da mamxilebeli viTarca<br />

esaia. is fexqveS egeba ubralo,<br />

wesier kacs, magram SeuZlia Serisxos<br />

ampartavani, fariseveli da<br />

gancxromis moyvare saero Tu sam-<br />

Rvdelo piri, TviT mefec da misi<br />

vazirebic ki. amitom, boroteulni<br />

SiSiT Zrwian da xafangebs ugeben,<br />

magram ufali icavs gansacdelisgan.<br />

ar mokvdeba qveyana, romelsac<br />

Tundac erTi aseTi beri hyavs.<br />

es aris am werilis boloTqma.<br />

gela qoqiaSvili

#22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

saerTo gazeTi<br />

25<br />

jemal davlianiZe<br />

rodemde unda marTon<br />

qveynebi urwmunoebma?<br />

politikur mxecTagan wamosuli<br />

muqara da ubedureba dRes<br />

ukve sayovelTaoa da kacobriobis<br />

saR nawils didi brZola<br />

dasWirdeba am Wiris mosaSoreblad.<br />

mdgomareoba umZimesia, rom<br />

ara uflis imedi!<br />

oRond! aucilebelia Cven,<br />

msoflios macxovreblebma, qveynebma<br />

gamoviRviZoT da im Zilburanidan<br />

gamovideT, am qveynis damaqcevrebma<br />

rom Segvrekes!<br />

pirvel rigSi, sayovelTao<br />

arxeinoba da baliSze Zili unda<br />

moviSoroT! usulgulobas<br />

Cvensas unda vuSveloT!<br />

ager, modis, moabijebs adamiani!<br />

modis mxolod xorci! modis<br />

xuxula! usulo, ufro ki<br />

suldakarguli. xorcSi Caaxr-<br />

Cobines sakuTari sulis naperwkali,<br />

riTac igi RmerTTan<br />

iyo dakavSirebuli!<br />

modis, modis, moabijebs, mova<br />

da...<br />

rogorc vTqvi, xelSi Segr-<br />

Ceba mxolod xorcis nageboba!<br />

xorcis Senoba! xorcieleba, romelSic<br />

sulierebis natamali ar<br />

dainaxveba!<br />

da es sabazre xorcis nagleji<br />

Tavisi poeziiT, Tavisi qandakebiT,<br />

Tavisi mxatvrobiT, Tavisi<br />

kulinariiT, Tavisi ybedobiT,<br />

Tavisi azrovnebiT, aris mxolod<br />

ena! ena _ daxlze dadebuli, woniT<br />

3-4 kilogrami da meti araferi...<br />

da, radgan dRes sayovelTao<br />

sibriyve Wixvinebs!<br />

da, radgan dRes sipatiosne<br />

dums mokrZalebiT!<br />

da, radgan dRes sindiss axrCoben<br />

saxrCobelaze!<br />

da, radgan politikosebi bazarSi<br />

dganan, aCexili samSoblos<br />

naWrebis gasayidad!<br />

radgan suliereba dRes xorcis<br />

patimaria!<br />

amitomac vglovob da vicremlebi!<br />

amitomac panaSvidi maqvs!<br />

da, dRes isea mowamluli<br />

msoflio sazogadoeba axali<br />

msoflio wesrigis (rac ukve<br />

sayovelTaoa kacobriobisaTvis!)<br />

mavne saqmianobiT, rom mravals<br />

da mravals Cveulebriv movlenad<br />

miaCnia, adamianebSi xorcis<br />

anu materiis zeoba da sulieri<br />

dacema, gaxrwna-gadagvareba.<br />

TiTqos sulsa da xorcs Soris<br />

darRveuli harmonia aRarafers<br />

niSnavdes! TiTqos adamianis daniSnuleba<br />

da uflisagan Cveni<br />

gaCenis mizezi mxolod kuWi, simaZRre<br />

da mxolod seqsi, - gamravlebis<br />

isteriuli moTxovnileba<br />

iyos!<br />

mainc, rodemde unda gagr-<br />

Zeldes da kacobriobam sadamde<br />

unda moiTminos usuloTa, azrovnebiT<br />

mwirTa, suliT dacemulTa<br />

da oden xorciT aRzevebulTa<br />

maskaradi?<br />

rodemde unda stanjon xorcielma<br />

mZorebma suliT amaRlebulni?<br />

rodemde unda marTon qveynebi<br />

urwmunoebma?<br />

rodis unda iswavlos Wkua<br />

xalxma, rom TeTri gaarCios Savisagan<br />

da moRalate ar arCios<br />

mamuliSvils?<br />

gagrZeleba. dasawyisi ix.<br />

`saerTo gazeTi~ #14-19<br />

mware gakveTilebi<br />

evroamerika, ruseTi da saqarTvelo<br />

ciklidan: omi bneleTTan _ ricxvi misi 666<br />

vin Camoagdo<br />

mefe ruseTSi?<br />

mrCeba STabeWdileba, rom mefis<br />

Camogdebas ruseTSi evroamerikelebi<br />

xelmZRvanelobdnen<br />

sakmaod saidumlod. ruseTSi<br />

maT zustad amerikis SeerTebuli<br />

Statebis msgavsi warmonaqmnis<br />

Camoyalibeba hqondaT ganzraxuli<br />

da revoluciac moaxdines.<br />

mefe ulmoblad daxvrites<br />

mTel ojaxTan erTad da iwyes<br />

masobrivi Jleta WeSmariti rusuli<br />

inteligenciisa, sasuliero<br />

pirebisa... milionobiT adamiani<br />

daxvrites, SemdgomSi, leninis<br />

sikvdilis merec gaagrZeles<br />

da vgoneb _ stalins rom<br />

ar emarjva, ra darCeboda ruse-<br />

Tisagan, am veeberTela, marTlmadidebluri<br />

qveynisagan, Zneli<br />

warmosadgeni arc aris!<br />

mokirkite mkiTxveli ityvis,<br />

- kaci saqarTvelos ubedurebaze<br />

gvesaubreba da ra SuaSia ruse-<br />

Tio!<br />

oo! ara da ara, batonebo!<br />

bevrze bevri gvaqvs saerTo ruseTTan!<br />

Tundac sarwmunoeba!<br />

Tundac mezobloba! Tundac Tanacxovrebis<br />

aTeulobiT weli!<br />

Tundac is, rom mavanma da mavanma<br />

moaxerxa, _ ruseTi Cvens<br />

upirveles da erTaderT mtrad<br />

daesaxa! da gana mxolod Cven<br />

Cagvagdes SevardnaZe-saakaSvilebma<br />

am dReSi?<br />

iqamde mividnen, rom Cveni<br />

udReuri xelisufleba, dRes<br />

ociode tankiT da asi avtomatiT,<br />

ruseTs cxvirwin muSts<br />

utrialebs da ded-mamas aginebs!<br />

rogorc finia ZaRls waaqezeben<br />

xolme patronebi, iseT<br />

dReSi arian! evroamerikelebi<br />

dauqseven da TviTon ganze gadgebian.<br />

TviTon Zmakacoben, Tvi-<br />

Ton ridi aqvT amxela qveynisa,<br />

gvarianadac eSiniaT, kinaRam qveS<br />

Caifsan da Cvens xelisuflebas<br />

ki amaod ayefeben!<br />

gana yovelive rom mowyobilia<br />

da specialuradaa, ver unda<br />

SevignoT qarTvelebma?<br />

gana Cveni qveynis daqucmaceba,<br />

rogorc erTerTi qristianuli<br />

qveynisa, evroamerikas rom<br />

xels aZlevs, es Zneli misaxvedria?<br />

da, am ybadaRebul e.w. dasavleTs,<br />

yovelive cudis ruseTis<br />

xeliT keTeba rom surs, Zneli<br />

dasanaxavia?<br />

evroamerikelebs ormagi mogeba<br />

aqvT am ukeTuri xelis banviT<br />

da CrdilSi dgomiT: saqar-<br />

Tvelos mTlianobas anadgureben,<br />

survils TavianTs, Canafiqrs isruleben<br />

da Tan ruseTs abraleben,<br />

ruseTs aZageben, mTel msoflioSi<br />

moZalades uwodeben!<br />

ra Tqma unda, ruseTSi<br />

uzarmazari legionebi hyavT Canergili<br />

da muSaoben daucxromlad!<br />

saocaria, rogor uZlebs<br />

dRemde ruseTi amxela ZalTa<br />

koncentrirebul Semotevas?<br />

erTi SexedeT maT namuSevars _<br />

ruseTis garSemo mdebare TiTqmis<br />

yvela e.w. yofili sabWoTa<br />

kavSiris qveynebis gadabirebas<br />

rogor cdiloben! veeberTela<br />

saxsrebs xarjaven belorusia-<br />

Si, ukrainaSi, Sua aziaSi, kavkasiaSi...<br />

da, rogorc yovelTvis, Cven<br />

pirvelobas xeli ar gavuSviT _<br />

evroamerikelebad gvsurs yofna<br />

da sakuTari miwis udides nawilebs<br />

viRacis enis amyolebi,<br />

TiTqmis saCuqrad da oTxdRiani<br />

omebiT varigebT!<br />

arada, yvelaferi es mowyobilia!<br />

yovelive winaswaraa gaTvlili!<br />

yovelive amas Tavisi warsuli,<br />

awmyo da sxvaTa Soris, momavalic<br />

gaaCnia!<br />

revoluciis dros ruseTic<br />

daRupvis gzaze daayenes, magram<br />

saidanRac gamoutyvraT soso<br />

juRaSvili, SemdgomSi stalini,<br />

romelmac magrad Searyia bneleTis<br />

mzakvruli Canafiqri.<br />

eomnen, gana ar eomnen? egonaT,<br />

Cvens azrze movaqcevTo, magram<br />

WkuiT ajoba! jer moixmara, er-<br />

TmaneTi Caaxocvina, mere ki,<br />

vinc SeewinaaRmdega, miwaSi Caawvina,<br />

vinc daimorCila, Tavis-<br />

Tvis amuSava.<br />

ruseTSi uamravi saocari<br />

ram xdeboda.<br />

magaliTad, CemTvis Zalian<br />

gansacvifrebelia cnoba imis<br />

Sesaxeb, rom ruseTSi, revoluciis<br />

Semdgomi mTavrobis SemadgenlobaSi<br />

TviT rusebi TiToorola<br />

kaciT Semoifarglebodnen.<br />

ase magaliTad:<br />

22 saxalxo komisridan, 19<br />

ebraeli yofila!<br />

xolo revoluciis Semdgomi<br />

ruseTis dumis 554 deputats<br />

Soris iyo:<br />

2 - poloneli!<br />

1 - Cexi!<br />

43 _ litveli!<br />

30 - rusi!<br />

3 _ fineli!<br />

13 _ somexi!<br />

2 _ qarTveli!<br />

1 _ ungreli!<br />

12 _ germaneli!<br />

447 _ ebraeli!<br />

rogor yofila ruseTis da<br />

evroamerikis saqme, veJo?<br />

am cnobis utyuarobis moZieba<br />

nebismier dainteresebul adamians<br />

SeuZlia, radgan istoria-<br />

Si brwyinvaledaa cnobili saxalxo<br />

komisrebis ambavic da<br />

ruseTis dumis deputatTa raodenobac.<br />

SevardnaZis<br />

xelisSemwyobni<br />

saqarTvelos<br />

mtrebi arian!<br />

davubrundeT eduard SevardnaZes,<br />

romlis sulieri fesvebi<br />

demonur samyaroSia Cazrdili.<br />

maSasadame, SevardnaZem, romelsac<br />

abraleben ori germaniis<br />

gaerTianebas! romelsac amgvari<br />

msoflio Zalaufleba hqonia,<br />

rokis gvirabis gayvanis dakonserveba<br />

ver aRusrulebia!<br />

vgoneb Txrobis ZiriTad<br />

xazs Zalian ar avcdenilvar...<br />

1990 wlis 28 oqtombers, saqarTveloSi<br />

Catarda arCevnebi,<br />

gaimarjva erovnul-ganmaTavisuflebelma<br />

moZraobam.<br />

saqarTveloSi daiwyo qristianul-erovnuli<br />

aRmSenebloba<br />

da saamiso resursi gadmogvyva<br />

sabWoTa kavSiridan.<br />

ai, zustad am dros dasWirda<br />

evroamerikas, moskovSi umu-<br />

Sevrad darCenili, pensioneri<br />

eduard SevardnaZe.<br />

aucilebeli iyo erovnuli<br />

aRmavlobis gzas damdgari saqarTvelos<br />

SeCereba, magram saamisod,<br />

pirvel rigSi, saWiro<br />

Seiqna dovlaTis da qonebis ganiaveba!<br />

qarTveli xalxi rogorme<br />

SimSilis karze unda daebaT.<br />

da, e.w. didma politikosma<br />

(pirvel rigSi evroamerikis<br />

imedma da jila koWma) xelebi<br />

daikapiwa. upirvelesad yoveli<br />

braldebisagan xelebs ibans: 9<br />

aprilis tragedia TviTon, TavisTavad<br />

moxda _ sisxli sxvebma<br />

daRvares da 1991 wlis samxedro<br />

gadatrialebac sxvebma<br />

moawyves. TviTon, SevardnaZe, am<br />

saqmeSi aba rogor Caereoda.<br />

masTan Turme didi TxovniT Cadioda<br />

uamravi qarTveli: inteligenciis<br />

warmomadgenlebi, politikosebi,<br />

saqmosnebi, eqimebi,<br />

pedagogebi da sTxovdnen, damyarebuli<br />

faSisturi reJimisagan<br />

exsna sruliad saqarTvelo.<br />

Turme, TviTon SevardnaZe<br />

saqarTveloSi dabrunda qveynis<br />

asaRorZineblad... samegrelo?<br />

sxvebma moaoxres afxazeTi da<br />

samaCablo? sxvebma gayides! omi?<br />

sxvebma waages! teroristuli<br />

aqtebi? sxvebma moawyves! saqar-<br />

Tvelos respublikis prezidenti<br />

zviad gamsaxurdia? sxvebma<br />

_ kerZod, sakuTarma megobrebma,<br />

garemocvam da danarCenma qarTvelobam<br />

anu zviadistebma gawires!<br />

dReis amas iqiT anu SevardnaZis<br />

Camosvlis Semdeg, yovelive<br />

cudi, rac xdeboda, rac xdeba<br />

da rac moxdeba, sxvebis mier<br />

iqneba Cadenili! yvelaferi kargi<br />

ki, `didi politikosis~ xeliT<br />

qmnilia... TviT uRrublo<br />

ca, mzis amosvlac ki, raRa Tqma<br />

unda, misi da mxolod misi damsaxurebaa!<br />

SevardnaZis Semomgzavnma<br />

aliansma (evroamerikam!) gadagvarebuli<br />

qarTveli Jurnalistebis,<br />

mwerlebis, eqimebis, inteligenciis<br />

sxvadasxva warmomadgenlebis<br />

meoxebiT, presa-televiziaSi<br />

daiwyes `didi politikosis~<br />

cxovrebis Selamazeba,<br />

misi adreuli Tu guSindeli<br />

cxovrebis qeba-dideba...<br />

(gagrZeleba Semdeg nomerSi)<br />

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />

internetSi<br />

www.saertogazeti.ge<br />

SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze

26 saerTo gazeTi #22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

Facebook Facebook Facebook Facebook Facebook Facebook Facebook Facebook Facebook Facebook Facebook<br />

xalxis azriT<br />

xo naxe wina arCevnebSi yvela partiam rom<br />

daxarja, ramdenjer aRemateboda im Tanxas<br />

mxolod nacebis danaxarji!<br />

iq biznesmenebi Seewevian (mogelaZem ar Seicxados!),<br />

aq parlamentaris adgilebs gayidian<br />

sarfianad (rogorc kervaliSvilis<br />

SemTxvevaSi), iqiT adeiSvili miexmareba<br />

“saprocesoebiT” (dasaWeri kidev bevria) da a.S.<br />

ivaniSvilis xalxs rom gaekeTebina, rac<br />

magaT gaakeTes - TiTo korpuss TiTo cxvari<br />

da boca Rvino rom gaugzavnes, xom<br />

warmogidgenia, ras daimxobda Tavze yvelafers<br />

mogvelaZe da ra ambavs atexavdnen nacebis media-sanitrebi!<br />

saxelmwifo samsaxurebSi momuSave pirebs<br />

miatanines sakuTari da ojaxis wevrebis<br />

piradobis mowmobebi. maT nacvlad xmas Tavad<br />

miscemen da es xalxi imis SiSiT, rom<br />

ojaxis wevri samsaxuridan ar gamoagdon, ver gaaprotestebs,<br />

rom maT nacvlad sxvam moawera xeli<br />

da biuleteni gamoiyena.<br />

ise me maqvs erTi idea, arCevnebic aRaraa<br />

saWiro, visac survili aqvs, yvela Sevides<br />

parlamentSi arCevnebis gareSe, ras gvawvaleben,<br />

an Cven an Tavs ras iwvaleben, fulic<br />

daezogebaT. Cven mainc aravin gvismens da ra<br />

azri aqvs, vin mogvwons da vin ara.<br />

Tu akvirdebiT imas, rom vinc am xelisuflebasTan<br />

adre iyo da mere opoziciaSi gadavida<br />

yvela paCti ruseTis agentia? ra<br />

aris es SemTxveiTobaa Tu am xelisuflebis<br />

utvinoba ruseTis agentebs rom asaqmebs?<br />

safrangeTs Tavisi marneuli ara aqvs, sadac<br />

moqmedi prezidenti 110%-s iRebs?<br />

sadme, sadac arabebi an zangebi kompaqturad<br />

cxovroben... ra gauWirda sarkozis<br />

aseTi? 2% waago... 3 periferiul ubanze iyo yuTi<br />

gasatacebeli da egaa... :-)<br />

quTaisSi xeebi rom gadabeles (totebi moaWres),<br />

gadanaWrelze “zelionka” wausves<br />

da axla is zelionkawasmuli xe quTaislebs<br />

svetaforSi erevaT. magas hqvia: sul<br />

mwvaneze gevloso..<br />

miwisZvra damTavrebuli ar iyo, miSa gamovida<br />

da ganacxada-ruseTis mowyobiliao...:)<br />

xedav, ruseTi ra diversiebs gviwyobs? ar<br />

isvenebs, ra. orSabaT dilas Seryeuli rom<br />

daiwyebs, dRis bolos ravali SenZreuli iqneba, xo<br />

azrze xarT? raferaa, netav, Cveni maRali?<br />

ese igi, vinc xelmisawvdom ganaTlebas<br />

iTxovs orosania?! ar sWirdeba miSas ganaTlebuli<br />

xalxi,radgan imaT ese ver mar-<br />

Tavs, rogorc dRes Tavis sulel kamandis<br />

wevrebs marTavs.<br />

ise mouCqara miwisZvram da Cems WaRebs ise<br />

aTamaSebs, rom meSinia tramps qe rom WaRi<br />

moewona baTumSi da SuriT guli gouskda,<br />

im WaRs araferi ewios... Cemsas ras vCivi...<br />

iyideba!<br />

1200 kv.m. xexiliani baRi patara<br />

saxliT sofel broweulaSi.<br />

Tbilisidan 20 wuTis savalze.<br />

tel.: 5 99 41 76 56; 2 34 22 97 nana<br />

vesaubrebiT parafsiqologs,<br />

qalbaton ana lenormans<br />

_ qalbatono ana, Tqven monawileoba<br />

miiReT telearx “imedis” gadacema<br />

“100 gradusi celsiusSi”,<br />

romelic zemgrZnobiare adamianebs<br />

exeboda. sainteresoa Tqveni azri<br />

kerZod am gadacemisa da saerTod,<br />

Cvens media-sivrceSi ezoTerikisadmi<br />

midgomis Sesaxeb.<br />

_ Cemi azriT, am gadacemaSic<br />

`100 gradusi celsiusiT~ da sxveb-<br />

Sic, romlebSic undaT paranormalur<br />

mxareebs Seexon, igrZnoba, rom<br />

sinamdvileSi saqarTveloSi parafsiqologiaze<br />

tabua dadebuli. sazogadoebisTvis<br />

es Tema Zalian sainteresoa,<br />

amaze xmamaRla aravin<br />

laparakobs, magram kuluarulad Zalian<br />

aqtualuria. samwuxarod, mwiria<br />

informacia, eyrdnobian araprofesionalebs,<br />

romelTac ar ician,<br />

ra aris Savi an TeTri magia, kosmosi,<br />

astrali... es yvelaferi erT<br />

mTlianobaSi aris mecniereba, rac<br />

CvenSi ganixileba mxolod dabal<br />

doneze, saubaria jadoze, Tvalze,<br />

Selocvaze, ufro farTo kuTxiT ki<br />

ver ganavrcoben. Ees mecniereba sakamaTo<br />

Temadaa qceuli SouebisTvis.<br />

Pprofesionaluri kuTxiT rom Sexedo,<br />

masSi Sedis medicina, fizika,<br />

metafizika, alqimia. Cveni telearxebi<br />

ki aSuqeben, rogorc Sous. Mme<br />

vfiqrob, rom aucilebelia, kviraSi<br />

erTxel erTi saaTi daeTmos am sakiTxs<br />

seriozuli kuTxiT. rogorc<br />

telearxi “kavkasia” astrologs,<br />

mixeil cagarels uTmobs eTers kviraSi<br />

erTxel, aseve romelime arxma<br />

unda dauTmos dro parafsiqologs.<br />

aseT gadacemaSi ki ar unda imkiTxaon<br />

an raRac Savbnel saqmeebze ilaparakon,<br />

unda axsnan yvelaferi seriozul<br />

doneze, radgan adamianebi,<br />

romlebic arian informaciul vakuumSi,<br />

eZeben pasuxs araswori mimar-<br />

TulebiT da asec midis mere yvelaferi<br />

maT cxovrebaSi. Aadamianebma<br />

unda icodnen, ra droSi vcxovrobT,<br />

ra samyaroseul movlenebs<br />

aqvs adgili, ratomaa aseTi agresia<br />

sazogadoebaSi, ratom xdeba amdeni<br />

mkvleloba da TviTlmkvleloba, ra<br />

aris “domovoi”, qarTulad fuZis<br />

angelozi da ase Semdeg.<br />

_ Tqven aseve aRniSneT, rom parafsiqologis<br />

Tu naTelmxilvelis<br />

mier yoveldRiuri miRebebi absurdia<br />

da amiTac SecdomaSi SehyavT<br />

adamianebi, ratom?<br />

_ warmoudgenelia winaswarmetyveleba<br />

iseTi saxiT, rom rigi dgas<br />

viRacasTan, erTi wavida, meore movida,<br />

meaTe miiRo. Eamis dagegmva SeuZlebelia.<br />

winaswarmetyveleba, rogorc<br />

aseTi, TavisiT modis. Aar SeiZleba<br />

es yoveldRiurobaSi Sekve-<br />

TiT movides. isev vubrundebi imas,<br />

rom unda mivides swori informacia<br />

sazogadoebamde, unda daiweros, gakeTdes<br />

gadacemebi seriozuli<br />

kuTxiT, saWiroa profesionali eqsperti,<br />

parafsiqologi. ia farulavam<br />

am gadacemaSi aRniSna, rom yvela<br />

msaxiobs gaaCnia meeqvse grZnobao.<br />

Kki, batono, vTqvaT, msaxiobs<br />

aqvs es profesiidan gamomdinare,<br />

magram arian adamianebi, romlebic<br />

modian kosmiuri ZaliT vunderkinduli<br />

kuTxidan gamomdinare. aseT<br />

rames ver Seiswavli, ver waikiTxav.<br />

saerTod, yvela adamians aqvs meeqvse<br />

grZnoba, Tavisi bioenergetikuli<br />

kuTxe. Ees zogSi metadaa ganviTarebuli,<br />

zogSi _ naklebad, magram<br />

sul sxvaa fenomenaluri niWiT dajildoebuli<br />

pirovneba.<br />

_ ra azris xarT erT-erTi monawilis,<br />

Teas Sesaxeb, ra aris mis<br />

sxeulze gamoxatuli stigmebi?<br />

_ me adrec viyavi dapatiJebuli<br />

msgavs SouSi ( ar maxsovs 2001 weli<br />

iyo Tu 2002), jer kidev iq gamovTqvi<br />

azri am gogonaze. M vfiqrob,<br />

rom aq adgili ar aqvs imas,<br />

rasac ewodeba kosmiuri Zala. rogorc<br />

aCvenebdnen, mas aqvs stigmebi,<br />

magram es xdeboda sul sxva kuTxidan<br />

gamomdinare.<br />

_ ra SeiZleba iyos es?<br />

_ me ar minda es ganvmarto, ubralod<br />

CemTvis sxva rames niSnavs.<br />

aseve SeuZlebelia Sexedo adamians<br />

da daaskvna vin iyo wina cxovrebaSi.<br />

Es sakmaod rTuli samuSaoa.<br />

_ gadacemis bolos moxda<br />

CarTva moskovidan biodenebiT<br />

cnobil mkurnal junasTan.<br />

aSkaraa, rom juna ukve didi<br />

xania mZime emociuri stresis<br />

gavlenis qveS imyofeba, rac,<br />

pirvel rigSi, Svilis daRupvam<br />

ganapiroba. ramdenad misa-<br />

Rebi iyo masTan CarTva, iqneb,<br />

sjobda, es ar momxdariyo?<br />

_ juna Cemi Taobis Tbiliselia,<br />

TiTqmis tolebi varT.<br />

erTs getyviT. igi uZlieresi<br />

pirovneba iyo, uZlieresi bioenergo-koreqtori.<br />

igi aris<br />

mkurnali da ara astralSi<br />

gamsvleli an winaswarmetyveli.<br />

juna gaanadgura sabWoTa<br />

kavSirma, uSiSroebam. Bbevrs<br />

ar awyobda misi arseboba, bevrs<br />

sWirdeboda. gaanadgures sulierad,<br />

fsiqika dauzianes, Svili ar daRupula,<br />

moukles. Aara mgonia, rom am<br />

gadacemiT dakninebuliyo, juna iyo<br />

da aris juna.<br />

_ Cvens saubarSi Tqven axseneT<br />

egreT wodebuli “domovoi”, Cveneburad,<br />

fuZis angelozi; sityvam moitana<br />

da davakonkretoT, ra arsebaa<br />

es?<br />

_ yvela saxls hyavs Tavisi fu-<br />

Zis angelozi. igi uxilavi Zalaa,<br />

suli, romelic cxovrobs saxlis<br />

fuZeze, arian agresiulebi, arian<br />

keTilebi.<br />

_ anu maT Sorisac aris gansxvaveba?<br />

_ ra Tqma unda, dadebiTi Zalis<br />

fuZis angelozi keTilmosurned gi-<br />

Rebs saxlis kars. xdeba isec, rom,<br />

vTqvaT, iyida ojaxma axali saxli,<br />

bina da daiwyo avadmyofobebi, warumateblobebi,<br />

ese igi raRacaSia saqme,<br />

agresiulia fuZis angelozi,<br />

aseT SemTxvevaSi saWiroa garkveuli<br />

rituali, Selocva, ojaxSi<br />

mRvdlis moyvana.<br />

_ rogor unda vceT pativi fu-<br />

Zis angelozs?<br />

_ yovelTvis iqonieT ojaxSi<br />

tkbileuloba, xandaxan ki oTaxis<br />

oTxive kuTxeSi kanfetebi unda dadoT.<br />

aseT dros saxlis kaci nebierad<br />

“vaxSmobs”. roca ojaxSi tkbileulia,<br />

komfortulad grZnobs<br />

Tavs.<br />

_ gvagebinebs Tavis arsebobas?<br />

_ ki, zogjer raRac xmebiT, karis<br />

kakuniT, SeiZleba umizezod gaiRos<br />

moxuruli kari. SeiZleba<br />

ojaxis wevris an axloblis xma CagesmaT<br />

da es fuZis angelozi iyos.<br />

_ Tu umizezod kari gaiRo, rame<br />

unda Tqva am dros?<br />

_ araferic ar unda Tqva. mTavaria<br />

komfortulad igrZnoT Tavi<br />

ojaxSi, sityvebs azri ar aqvs.<br />

_ Tqven aseve isaubreT jados<br />

moxsnaze da amisi albaTobac gangvimarteT.<br />

Aanu, ramdenad logikuria<br />

jados gasakeTeblad an mosaxsnelad<br />

mkiTxavTan misvla?<br />

_ samyaroSi arsebobs kosmiuri<br />

programebi. vTqvaT, damTavrda programa<br />

Cems sayvarel adamianTan, mor-<br />

Ca, is unda wavides sxvasTan da me<br />

sxvasTan, an davrCe marto. aseT<br />

dros roca zedmeti Careva xdeba,<br />

roca zedmetad exebian, ziandeba individis<br />

fsiqika. Aanu am SemTxveva-<br />

Si ki ar gaiwminda adamiani, sxva<br />

rame gaukeTda. erTi jado Caanacvla<br />

`parafsiqologia aris mecniereba,<br />

romelic CvenTan sakamaTo<br />

Temadaa qceuli SouebisTvis~<br />

meorem, erTi magia Secvala meorem.<br />

_ anu es xdeba kosmiur programaze<br />

daqvemdebarebiT, rogor moviqceT<br />

sworad?<br />

_ Tu programa damTavrebulia,<br />

azri aRarafers aqvs, radgan ar Sedgeba<br />

sulieri kavSiri. Yyvela admians<br />

hyavs Tavisi bedis varskvlavi,<br />

saxeldobr “mas” unda Sexvdes. ra<br />

Tqma unda, aris SemTxvevebi, roca<br />

ara programiT, aramed raRac Zlieri<br />

jados zegavleniT midis adamiani,<br />

maSin unda moxdes moxsna da ur-<br />

TierToba aRdgeba. saWiroa swori<br />

diagnozi. parafsiqologma unda dainaxos<br />

programa erTad xarT jer<br />

Tu gaTiSulni xarT ukve. anu roca<br />

qali Txovdeba, aucileblad esaWiroeba<br />

astro-para-fsiqologiuri<br />

konsultacia, ruqa. xarT Tqven erT<br />

varskvlavze dabadebulni? risi mo-<br />

Tmena mogiwevT iciT? unda gaarkvioT,<br />

raze midixarT.<br />

_ vTqvaT, mimatova sayvarelma<br />

adamianma, movedi TqvenTan, Tqven dainaxeT,<br />

rom igi aRar zis Cems kosmiur<br />

programaSi, ras mirCevT?<br />

_ gakeTdeba diagnozi. Tu davinaxe,<br />

rom programa dasrulebulia,<br />

pirdapir getyviT: es pirovneba aRar<br />

aris Tqveni. aRar gWirdebaT warsulze<br />

CaWideba. dadeqi WeSmarit<br />

gzaze, mixede Tavs. unda daixuros<br />

erTi da gaixsnas meore, sxva kari,<br />

rom Seni varskvlavi kvlav gamoCndes.<br />

Yyvelam Tavisi bedi unda eZios,<br />

ar unda ifiqro imaze, vin ras<br />

ityvis. SeiZleba sadRac gacilebiT<br />

ukeTesi adamiani gelodeba, SeiZleba,<br />

araferic ar gelodeba. mTavaria,<br />

Savi magiis zemoqmedebiT ar iyos<br />

sayvareli adamiani wasuli Sengan.<br />

Tamuna qadagiZe

#22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

saerTo gazeTi<br />

27<br />

`saerTo gazeTis~ iuridiuli konsultacia<br />

`saerTo gazeTis~ mkiTxvelTa<br />

SekiTxvebs pasuxobs gazeTis<br />

iuridiuli konsultanti, advokati<br />

mTvarisa<br />

kevliSvili.<br />

tel.: 2 79 63 91;<br />

0 790 60 64 69;<br />

5 93 78 64 69<br />

* * *<br />

_ var mopasuxe. ra samarTlebrivi<br />

Sedegebi dadgeba, Tu ar<br />

warvadgen Sesagebels?<br />

_ mopasuxis mier dadgenil<br />

vadaSi pasuxis (Sesagebels) warudgenlobisas,<br />

Tu es gamowveulia<br />

arasapatio mizeziT, mosamar-<br />

Tles zepiri mosmenis gareSe gamoaqvs<br />

dauswrebeli gadawyvetileba.<br />

amasTanave mosamarTle daakmayofilebs<br />

sarCels, Tu masSi<br />

miTiTebuli garemoebebi iuridiulad<br />

amarTlebs sasarCelo mo-<br />

Txovnas; winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi<br />

sasamarTlo niSnavs mTavar sxdomas,<br />

ris Sesaxebac ecnobebaT mxareebs<br />

kanoniT dadgenili wesiT.<br />

sxdomis Catarebis SemTxvevaSi<br />

mopasuxisgan mtkicebulebaTa mi-<br />

Reba ar xdeba da sasamarTlo moismens<br />

mopasuxis mxolod<br />

samarTlebriv mosazrebebs<br />

sasarCelo moTxovnasTan<br />

dakavSirebiT.<br />

* * *<br />

_ SeiZleba Tu ara<br />

mowmis dakiTxva mis adgilsamyofelze?<br />

_ mowmis dakiTxva<br />

warmoebs Ria sasamarTlo<br />

sxdomaze. arsebobs gamonaklisic.<br />

kerZod: mowme<br />

SeiZleba daikiTxos mis<br />

adgilsamyofelze, Tu:<br />

a) avadmyofobis, moxucebulobis,<br />

invalidobis<br />

an sxva sapatio mizeziT<br />

mas ar SeuZlia gamocxaddes<br />

sasamarTloSi;<br />

b) saqmis garemobaTa mixedviT<br />

misi adgilze dakiTxva ufro mizanSewonilia;<br />

g) dakiTxul unda iqnes ramdenime<br />

mowme, romlebic erT adgilas<br />

cxovroben da maTi sasamarTloSi<br />

gamoZaxeba da dakiTxva<br />

dakavSirebuli iqneboda did xarjebTan;<br />

d) sxva SemTxvevebSi _ sasamarTlos<br />

Sexedulebisamebr.<br />

* * *<br />

_ dabarebuli var Tbilisis<br />

saqalaqo sasamarTloSi samoqalaqo<br />

saqmeze mowmis saxiT. vcxovrob<br />

raionSi. finansuri saxsrebi<br />

ar gamaCnia. rogor moviqce?<br />

_ samoqalaqo saproceso kodeqsis<br />

146-e muxlis I nawilis mixedviT,<br />

mowmes ufleba aqvs, moiTxovos<br />

sasamarTloSi gamoZaxebasTan<br />

dakavSirebuli xarjebis anazRaureba<br />

kanoniT dadgenili wesiT.<br />

amave muxlis me-2 nawilis mixedviT,<br />

sasamarTlos SeuZlia daavalos<br />

mxares, romlis SuamdgomlobiTac<br />

gamoZaxebulia mowme,<br />

winaswar gadaixados mowmis sasamarTloSi<br />

gamoZaxebasa da dakiTxvasTan<br />

dakavSirebuli xarjebi.<br />

aseT SemTxvevaSi mowmes gamoiZaxebs<br />

sasamarTlo mas Semdeg,<br />

rac mxare Seasrulebs aRniSnuli<br />

xarjebis gadaxdis movaleobas.<br />

* * *<br />

_ romelma sasamarTlom unda<br />

ganixilos Svilad ayvanis saqme?<br />

_ bavSvis Svilad ayvanis Sesaxeb<br />

sarCeli SeiZleba Setanil<br />

iqnes sasamarTloSi mSvileblis<br />

an gasaSvilebeli bavSvis adgilsamyofelis<br />

mixedviT.<br />

* * *<br />

_ sad SeiZleba Sevitano sar-<br />

Celi mamobis dadgenis Sesaxeb?<br />

vixdi Tu ara saxelmwifo baJs?<br />

_ samoqalaqo saproceso kodeqsis<br />

46-e muxlis Inawilis `g~<br />

q-punqtis Sesabamisad, saxelmwifo<br />

biujetis sasargeblod sasamarTlo<br />

xarjebis gadaxdisagan<br />

Tavisufldebian mosarCeleebi danaSauliT<br />

miyenebuli materialuri<br />

zaralis anazRaurebis sarCelebze.<br />

* * *<br />

_ SeiZleba Tu ara saapelacio<br />

instanciaSi Sevitano Segebebuli<br />

sarCeli?<br />

_ ara.<br />

samoqalaqo saproceso kodeqsis<br />

381-e muxlis mixedviT, davis<br />

sagnis Secvla an gadideba, agreTve,<br />

Segubebuli sarCelis Setana<br />

saapelacio sasamarTloSi dauSvebelia.<br />

* * *<br />

_ gadawyvetileba Sevida kanonier<br />

ZalaSi da eqvemdebareba<br />

aRsrulebas. Sevitane gancxadeba<br />

saqmis warmoebis ganaxlebis Sesaxeb.<br />

SeCerdeba Tu ara aRsruleba?<br />

_ saqmis ganaxlebis Sesaxeb<br />

gancxadeba ver SeaCerebs gadawyvetilebis<br />

aRsrulebas. sasamarTlos<br />

SeuZlia, Tavisi ganCinebiT<br />

droebiT SeaCeros gadawyvetilebis<br />

aRsruleba. gadawyvetilebis<br />

iZulebiT sisruleSi moyvana imaze<br />

iqneba damokidebuli, iZleva<br />

Tu ara saqmis warmoebis momTxovni<br />

piri Sesabamis garantiebs.<br />

* * *<br />

_ ra SemTxvevebSi SeiZleba<br />

sasamarTlom SeaCeros saqmis warmoeba?<br />

_ samoqalaqo saproceso kanonmdebloba<br />

gansazRvravs sasamarTlos<br />

movaleobas da uflebas<br />

saqmis warmoebis SeCerebis Sesaxeb.<br />

mogaxsenebT orive SemTxvevis<br />

Sesaxeb:<br />

_ samoqalaqo saproceso kanonmdebloba<br />

gansazRvravs sasamarTlos<br />

movaleobas da uflebas<br />

saqmis warmoebis SeCerebis Sesaxeb.<br />

mogaxsenebT orive SemTxvevis<br />

Sesaxeb:<br />

_ sasamarTlo valdebulia<br />

SeaCeros saqmis warmoeba Semdeg<br />

SemTxvevebSi:<br />

a) moqalaqis gardacvalebisas,<br />

Tu sadavo-samarTlebrivi urTierToba<br />

dasaSvebad Tvlis uflebamonacvleobas<br />

an im iuridiuli<br />

piris arsebobis Sewyvetisas, romelic<br />

saqmeSi mxares warmoadgens:<br />

b) mxaris mier qmedunarianobis<br />

dakargvisas;<br />

g) saqarTvelos SeiaraRebuli<br />

Zalebis moqmed nawilSi mopasuxis<br />

yofnisas an aseTive nawileb-<br />

Si myofi mosarCelis TxovniT;<br />

d) Tu saqmis ganxilva SeuZlebelia<br />

sxva saqmis gadawyvetde,<br />

romelic ganxilul unda iqnas<br />

samoqalaqo, sisxlis samarTlis<br />

an administraciuli wesiT;<br />

e) Tu saqmis ganixilavs restituciisa<br />

da kompensaciis komisia<br />

an komisiis komiteti;<br />

v) Tu saqmis ganmxilveli sasamarTlos<br />

azriT, kanoniT, romelic<br />

am saqmisaTvis unda iqnas gamoyenebuli,<br />

ar Seesabameba an ewinaaRmdegeba<br />

konstitucias, sasamarTlo<br />

SeaCerebs saqmis ganxilvas<br />

am sakiTxze sakonstitucio<br />

sasamarTlos mier gadawyvetilebis<br />

miRebamde, ris Semdegac saqmis<br />

ganxilva ganaxldeba.<br />

_ sasamarTlos, mxareTa<br />

gancxadebiT an Tavisi iniciativiT,<br />

SeuZlia SeaCeros<br />

saqmis warmoeba, Tu:<br />

a) mxare imyofeba namdvil<br />

vadian samxedro samsaxurSi<br />

an gawveulia raime<br />

saxelmwifo movaleobis Sesasruleblad;<br />

b) mxare imyofeba xangrZliv<br />

samsaxurebriv mivlinebaSi;<br />

g) mxare imyofeba samkurnalo<br />

dawesebulebaSi an<br />

avad aris, ris gamoc saSualeba<br />

ara aqvs, gamocxaddes<br />

sasamarTloSi da es<br />

dainteresdeba samedicino<br />

dawesebulebis cnobiT;<br />

d) gamocxadebulia mopasuxis<br />

Zebna kanoniT gaTvaliswinebul<br />

SemTxvevebSi.<br />

e) sasamarTlom daniSna eqspertiza.<br />

* * *<br />

_ Cemma advokatma fostas Caabara<br />

sarCeli Cems yofil meuRleze<br />

gadasacemad. saqme ganqorwinebas<br />

exeba. Cemma yofilma meuRlem<br />

gzavnilis miRebaze uari ganacxada.<br />

ra moxdeba?<br />

_ Tu adresatma uari ganacxada<br />

gzavnilis miRebaze, misi mimtani<br />

piri saTanado aRniSnvnas gaakeTebs<br />

gzavnilze, romelic sasamarTlos<br />

unda waredginos. aseT<br />

SemTxvevaSi gzavnili adresatisaTvis<br />

Cabarebulad CaiTvleba. es<br />

imas niSnavs, rom dainiSneba sasamarTlo<br />

procesi.<br />

frenisas SeiaraRebuli damnaSaveebis<br />

jgufi pilotis kabinaSi<br />

SeiWra. maT daWres bortmeqanikosi<br />

da saqarTvelos samoqalwaqo<br />

aviaciis sammarTvelos<br />

safrenosno-SturmanTa<br />

ganyofilebis ufrosis moadgile.<br />

gamtaceblebma moiTxoves<br />

kursis Secvla da TurqeTSi<br />

gafrena.<br />

am ambebamde cota xniT adre<br />

kinostudia `mosfilmSi~ gadaRebul<br />

iqna mxatvruli filmi<br />

`gangaSi~. igi, Cveulebriv,<br />

sajaro CvenebisTvis ar gadauciaT.<br />

filmi mxolod samarTaldamcavi<br />

organoebisa da aeroflotis<br />

TanamSromlebs aCvenes.<br />

scenari martivi iyo, filmi<br />

saswavlo masalas hgavda. damna-<br />

Saveebma, romelTac sazRvargareT<br />

wasvla gadawyvites, stiuardesas<br />

winaSe axalgazrduli<br />

qorwili gaiTamaSes. stiuardesas<br />

sTxoves bileTebi da bortze<br />

Zvirfasi WurWliT savse<br />

CanTis Setana, rodesac `nefepatarZali~<br />

da CanTa bortze aRmoCnda,<br />

swrafad gamoirkva, rom<br />

faifuris magivrad CanTaSi iara-<br />

Ri ido. bednieri Seyvarebulebi<br />

ki iaraRis kargad mflobeli<br />

damnaSaveebi aRmoCndnen. filmis<br />

scenaris mixedviT, ase iqna gatacebuli<br />

TviTmfrinavi.<br />

`kinos~ msgavsi scenariT,<br />

TviTmfrinavi TbilisSi iqna gatacebuli.<br />

aRweril movlenebamde<br />

erTi dRis adre (e.i. 17 noembers)<br />

momavalma teroristebma<br />

_ skola-internatis pedagogma<br />

da SeTavsebiT studia<br />

`qarTuli filmis~ mxatvarma<br />

wereTelma da samxatvro akademiis<br />

arqiteqturis fakultetis<br />

mesame kursis studentma patiaSvilma<br />

(sinamdvileSi, misi<br />

gvari iyo fetviaSvili) qorwili<br />

gadaixades. mowveul stumarTa<br />

Soris aeroportis Tanam-<br />

Sromeli qalbatonic iyo. qorwilSi<br />

mas moelaparaknen, rom<br />

igi axaldaqorwinebulTaTvis<br />

SeiZenda bileTebs da TviTmfrinavis<br />

bortze, Semowmebis gareSe,<br />

sadeputato darbazidan<br />

Seiyvanda. rogorc Caifiqres,<br />

isec ganxorcielda.<br />

eqvsi damnaSave, cxrametidan<br />

ocdaaT wlamde axalgazrdebi _<br />

eqimi Zmebi pirvelebi (sinamdvileSi<br />

maTi gvari iyo iverielebi-lekiSvili),<br />

adre xulignobisTvis<br />

orjer nasamarTlevi<br />

kobiZe, Tbilisis erT-erTi<br />

umaRlesi saswavleblis studenti<br />

(gvari araa miTiTebuli<br />

savaraudod saubaria gega kobaxiZeze)<br />

da CvenTvis ukve nacnobi<br />

ojaxi wereTeli-patiaSvili<br />

(unda iyos fetviaSvili) aeroportSi<br />

mividnen. isini iq Sexvdnen<br />

or nacnob gogonas, romelTac<br />

SesTavazes sxva qalaq-<br />

Si gafrena, ise, rom sakuTari<br />

gegma maTTvis ar gaumJRavnebiaT.<br />

mTeli es kompania, Semowmebis<br />

gareSe sadeputato darbazis<br />

gavliT avida TviTmfrinav-<br />

Si, romelic male afrinda.<br />

frenisas damnaSaveebma salonSi<br />

mgzavrebis Seswavla daiwyes.<br />

isini aeroflotis usafrTxoebis<br />

samsaxuris muSaks<br />

eZebdnen, romlebic, rogorc wesi,<br />

aseTi grZeli marSrutis<br />

dros TviTmfrinavs acileben.<br />

dadgenili wesis darRveviT,<br />

bortze usafrTxoebis muSaki<br />

`alfa~ TbilisSi<br />

mifrinavs~<br />

ar imyofeboda, magram banditebs<br />

erTi mgzavri saeWvod moeCvenaT.<br />

wereTelma samgzavro adgili<br />

datova, mivida mgzavrTan da<br />

TavSi Sampanuris boTli Caartya.<br />

kobiZem da Zmebma pirvelebma<br />

(iverieli-lekiSvili) Seipyres<br />

stiuardesa, cocxal farad<br />

ifares da pilotis kabinaSi SeiWrnen.<br />

iaraRis muqariT maT<br />

kursis Secvla da TurqeTSi<br />

gafrena moiTxoves. konfliqtis<br />

mogvarebis mizniT, bort-meqanikosi<br />

Seepasuxa: `romeli TurqeTi?<br />

Tqven azrze xarT, ras<br />

ambobT? TviTmfrinavs am man-<br />

Zilze gadafrena ar SeuZlia!~<br />

diskusiis gareSe erT-erTma<br />

damnaSavem auRelveblad mas esrola<br />

da sasikvdilod daWra,<br />

Semdeg tyvia safrenosno-SturmanTa<br />

ganyofilebis ufrosis<br />

moadgiles daaxala, romelic<br />

ekipaJTan erTad mifrinavda.<br />

magram teroristebma ver<br />

SeamCnies rom pilotTakabinis<br />

wina nawilSi, fardis ukan,<br />

TviTmfrinavis Sturmani idga.<br />

Sturmanma swrafad Seafasa vi-<br />

Tareba da Tavdamsxmelebs sapasuxo<br />

cecxli gauxsna, erTi<br />

mokla da erTic daWra. xomaldis<br />

meTauri ar daibna da haer-<br />

Si umaRlesi pilotaJis ramdenime<br />

figura Seasrula, riTac<br />

damnaSaveTa moqmedeba Seaferxa.<br />

rogorc specialistebma Semdgom<br />

gamoTvales, am manevrebis<br />

Sesrulebisas TviTmfrinavis<br />

konstruqciaze zewola samjer<br />

aRemateboda dasaSveb normebs.<br />

am manevrebis Sedegad teroristebi<br />

pilotis kabinidan gamovardnen<br />

da ekipaJma kabinis karis<br />

Caketva moaswro.<br />

xomaldis meTauri ar daemorCila<br />

TavdamsxmelTa moTxovnas,<br />

da miuxedavad rikoSetuli<br />

tyviiT fexSi daWrisa,<br />

TviTmfrinavi Tbilisis aeroportSi<br />

dasva. aeroportis<br />

asafren-dasafren zolze TviTmfrinavi<br />

mZimed daeSva, dartymam<br />

yvela teqnologiuri luki da<br />

marjvena mxris saavario karebi<br />

gaaRo, sanam TviTmfrinavi safren<br />

zolze moZraobda, erT-er-<br />

Tma stiuardesam, isargebla ra<br />

damnaSaveebis uyuradRebobiT,<br />

scada TviTmfrinavis mTavari<br />

karis gaReba da gadmoxtoma.<br />

teroristma es SeamCnia da esrola.<br />

mogvianebiT, eqspertizam<br />

daadgina, rom safren bilikze<br />

stiuardesa mkvdari daeca.<br />

tyvia mas gulSi moxvda. es ukve<br />

meoTxe msxverpli iyo.<br />

daviT arabiZe<br />

(gagrZeleba Semdeg nomerSi)

C M Y K<br />

28 saerTo gazeTi #22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />

romeli qveyana gaqreba pirvelad<br />

vangas winaswarmetyvelebis mixedviT?<br />

cnobili bulgareli winaswarmetyveli ambobs Tu ratom dai-<br />

Rupebian evropis qveynebi. vanga laparakobs musulmanur qveynebs<br />

Soris omze, sadac gamoyenebuli iqneba qimiuri iaraRi. Sedegad<br />

2016 wels evropa mTlianad ganadgurdeba. qimiuri iarRisgan adamianebis<br />

dauavaddebaT Tvalebi, sasunTqi gzebi, kuW-nawlavi, gauCndebaT<br />

kanis sneulebani. musulmanuri saxelmwifoebi Seqmnian qimiur<br />

iaraRs da ganadgurdeba aTobiT saxelmwifo. rac gamoiwvevs<br />

kanis wylulebs, daibadebian juja adamianebi. 2016 wels evropa<br />

dacarieldeba.<br />

vangas winaswametyveleba iaponiis atomuri eleqtrosadguris<br />

`fukusima-1~ avariis Sedegebzec saubrobs.<br />

yarayums gamyinvareba elodeba<br />

didi xani ar aris, rac mecnierebma SeamCnies, rom centraluri<br />

aziis mTebSi _ yarayumze yinulis safari izrdeba. mis siaxloves<br />

himalaize ki yinuli dnobas agrZelebs. ra aris yarayumis<br />

anomaliis mizezi?<br />

Tu imas gaviTvaliswinebT, rom aqtiurad midis yinulis dnoba<br />

mTel dedamiwaze, yarayumis SemTxveva paradoqsulad CaiTvleba. ra<br />

intensivobiTac sxvagan dneba yinuli, imave intensivobiT yarayumze<br />

yinulis safari izrdeba, cvlilebebi aq 2005 wlidan mimdinareobs.<br />

SegaxsenebT, rom yarayumis mTaTa sistema mongoleTs, CineTs,<br />

indoeTsa da pakistans akravs da erT-erT yvelaze maRal mTaTa<br />

sistemad iTvleba msoflioSi. mTis kldeTa saSualo simaRle daaxloebiT<br />

6000 metria, ufro maRali, vidre tibetSi, sadac sa-<br />

Sualo simaRle 4880 metri gaxlavT. yarayumSi zogierTi mTis simaRle<br />

zRvis donidan 8000 km aRwevs. yinulis safari aq 15,4 000<br />

kv. km-zea gadaWimuli. miiCneva, rom yarayumi yvelaze grZeli yinulovani<br />

mTaa msoflioSi.<br />

sainteresoa, rom gasul saukuneSi yarayumis yinulovani safari<br />

ramdenadme Semcirda (magaliTad, yinulovani mTa bartolo<br />

1928-58 wlebSi 500 metriT dapataravda), 70-ian wlebSi situacia<br />

stabiluri iyo. aravin moeloda, rom saukunis bolos situacia<br />

Seicvleboda, amitom sistematiuri kvlevebi aRar mimdinareobda.<br />

2005 wels glaciologebi gaognebuli darCnen da hqondaT kidec<br />

amis mizezi. yarayumis yinulis safari ufro da ufro izrdeboda.<br />

axla mTliani yinulovani farTobi 16,3 000kv.km-ia.<br />

himalaize yinuli dneba. amas globalur daTmobas miaweren, magram<br />

Tuki yarayumze yinulis safari izrdeba. ra unda niSnavdes es?<br />

kvleva daiwyes da 2000 wels TebervalSi kosmosuri Tanamgzavri<br />

`indevori~, xolo 2008 wlis dekemberSi franguli Tanamgzavri<br />

spot-5 gaagzavnes.<br />

yinulis safari aSkarad gazrdili iyo. yinuli dRiTidRe izrdeba.<br />

kvlevis Sedegebi jer ar aris cnobili.<br />

moamzada ana vadaWkoriam<br />

eris naTeli momavali eklesia-monastrebis mSeneblobaSia,<br />

miiReT monawileoba wmida andria pirvelwodebulis<br />

monastris mSeneblobaSi. ufali SegewevaT.<br />

bednieri adamiani - morwmune adamiania.<br />

rom gwamdes - unda daijero, rom gjerodes - unda<br />

gindodes, madli rom moipovo - unda gsurdes. qarTvelno,<br />

erTad RvTisaken!<br />

RmerTma daglocoT da gagaZlieroT!<br />

astrologiuri<br />

prognozi<br />

verZi _ mTlianobaSi<br />

es periodi TqvenTvis<br />

warmatebuli iqneba, Tumca<br />

SesaZloa, mogiwioT garkveuli<br />

daZabuli saubrebi.<br />

Tu dasasveneblad gamgzavrebas<br />

ver axerxebT, maSin mcire<br />

xniT ganmartovdiT.<br />

kuro _ Tu Tqven xelovnebas<br />

raime kuTxiT<br />

emsaxurebiT, maSin, SeecadeT,<br />

dasvenebacota xniT<br />

gadadoT da es dro gamoiyenoT.<br />

tyupebi _ met-naklebad<br />

warmatebuli kvira<br />

geliT, mosalodnelia<br />

perspeqtiuli winadadebebis<br />

miReba, amitom yvela sakiTxi<br />

seriozulad unda gaaanalizdes.<br />

kirCxibi _ SeecadeT<br />

axali araferi wamoiwyoT<br />

da cota xniT<br />

yoveldRiuri saqmiT SemoifargloT<br />

an CaerTod daisvenoT.<br />

lomi _ daastabilureT<br />

urTierTobebi garSemomyofebTan<br />

da partniorebTan,<br />

nu iqnebiT konfliqturi<br />

da nu SeecdebiT<br />

sakuTari pirobebis xazgasmas.<br />

qalwuli _ gaaqtiurdeba<br />

Tqveni saqmiani<br />

urTierTobebi, SeecadeT,<br />

ar iyoT kritikuli da<br />

zedmeti analiziTa da auditiT<br />

momavali partniorebi ar<br />

daafrTxoT.<br />

saswori _ iyaviT<br />

mSvidi da diplomatiuri,<br />

amave dros SeecadeT,<br />

am periodSi yvela perspeqtiva<br />

Tu Sansi gamoiyenoT.<br />

morieli _ kviris<br />

dasawyisi da kviris bolo<br />

warmatebuli iqneba,<br />

am dReebSi mosalodnelia sasargeblo<br />

Sexvedrebi da molaparakebebi.<br />

mSvildosani _<br />

mkveTrad gaumjobesdeba<br />

Tqveni inteleqtualuri<br />

SesaZleblobebi, rac Tavis<br />

mxriv dadebiTad aisaxeba.<br />

Txis rqa _ mogiwevT<br />

sakmaod bevri informaciis<br />

miReba-gadamuSaveba,<br />

Tumca, mosalodnelia aq<br />

cru da fsevdo-informaciebic<br />

iyos.<br />

merwyuli _ am kviraSi<br />

garkveuli gamarTlebis<br />

albaTobac geqnebaT,<br />

mosalodnelia sasimamovno<br />

informacia miiRoT ucxoeTidan.<br />

Tevzebi _ es kvira<br />

sakmaod mSvid tempSi<br />

Caivlis da raime gar-<br />

Tulebas adgili ar eqneba. mogiwevT<br />

saojaxo problemebis<br />

gadawyveta. SesaZloa saCuqrebiT<br />

miiRoT.

logo

products

Resources

Company

Terms of service
Privacy policy
Cookie policy
Cookie settings
Imprint
Change language
Made with love in Switzerland
© 2024 Yumpu.com all rights reserved

Hooray! Your file is uploaded and ready to be published.

Saved successfully!

Ooh no, something went wrong!