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16 saerTo gazeTi #22 (206), 9-15.V, 2012 w.<br />
rusTavelis TeatrSi, sadac akaki<br />
xoravas suli trialebs, viRac<br />
malaizieli saWmels akeTebs, ase<br />
vuvliT Cvens erovnul Rirsebas?!<br />
interviu dima jaianTa.<br />
_ modiT, batono dima, visaubroT<br />
afxazeTze. ramdenime<br />
dRis win prezidentma uxerxul<br />
konteqstSi moixsenia<br />
saqarTvelos es ulamazesi<br />
kuTxe.<br />
_ saerTod afxazeTTan mimarTebaSi<br />
amaT gamousworebeli<br />
danaSauli aqvT Cadenili.<br />
daukvirdiT, afxazeTs saer-<br />
Tod aRar axseneben an Tu axseneben,<br />
jobs, saerTod ar eTqvaT<br />
raime. marTalia, erTi<br />
mowvevis parlamentis wevri<br />
viyavi, magram imas mainc vaxerxebdiT,<br />
rom yoveldRiurad<br />
Segvexesebina Cveni tkivili<br />
afxazeTi saqarTvelos mosaxleobisTvis<br />
cxonebuli Tamaz<br />
nadareiSvilis dros iyo<br />
afxazeTze aqtiurad saubari.<br />
parlamentis sxdoma afxaze-<br />
Tis sakiTxiT iwyeboda maSin,<br />
axla Tu gagigiaT afxazeTze<br />
seriozuli laparaki? ara,<br />
xom? iciT, ratom? amaT hgoniaT,<br />
rom Cven vakuumSi varT.<br />
araferi viciT da verafers<br />
vxvdebiT, sinamdvileSi yvelam<br />
kargad viciT afxazebis da<br />
qarTvelebis erTad yofnis gasaRebi<br />
ruseTTan normaluri<br />
urTierToba romaa.<br />
_ batono dima, axlaxan<br />
prezidentma ganacxada moviWri<br />
organoebs afxazeTis da<br />
cxinvalis regionis sanacvlodo...<br />
_ amaze komentari rogor<br />
SeiZleba, kaci xom xedavT<br />
agoniaSia! avadmyofi da samkurnaloa!<br />
vis ugzavnis Tavis<br />
asos, sul ar momwons arc<br />
medvedevi da arc putini. omi<br />
gamoviare, Cemi TvaliT maqvs<br />
yvelaferi nanaxi, sad iyvnen<br />
eseni, Tundac saakaSvili im<br />
dros? sad iyvnen saerTod es<br />
garewrebi? ician sad aris<br />
afxazeTi? Cems SvilTan er-<br />
Tad vibrZodi ruseTis winaaRmdeg!<br />
ramdeni adamianis sicocxle<br />
Seiwina im omma! ruseTs<br />
maswavlian eseni? ase<br />
gvinda afxazeTis dabruneba?<br />
viciT ruseTis xrikebi, magram<br />
msoflioSi pirveli qveynis<br />
sagareo saqmeTa ministri<br />
rom gafrTxilebs, provokacias<br />
ar ayveo da Sen Sensas rom<br />
ar iSli, visi bralia? rogor<br />
SeiZleba atomis mefe qveyanas<br />
omi mougo? konstantine gamsaxurdias<br />
aqvs genialurad<br />
naTqvami: `ers, romelsac nacarqeqias<br />
zRapari aqvs, gada-<br />
Seneba ar uweriao~. ras gulisxmobda<br />
didi konstantine?<br />
_ moqnilobas, Wkuas, xerxs.<br />
_ samwuxaroa, rom xelovnebis<br />
nacvlad politikaze<br />
gviwevs saubari.<br />
_ xelovnebaze da Teatrze<br />
rogor vilaparakoT, roca<br />
Cemi nacionaluri Teatri,<br />
rusTavelis, aseT mdgomareobaSia.<br />
inglisSi, Seqspiris TeatrSi<br />
SegiSveben da cekvas an<br />
sxva sanaxaobebs dagadgmevineben?<br />
an kulinariul gakveTilebs<br />
Cagatarebineben? an niWiers<br />
gamoavlenen? ar var imis<br />
winaaRmdegi, magram aseTi RonisZiebebisTvis<br />
sxva darbazebis<br />
monaxva SeiZleba. iq simfoniur<br />
orkestrsac ar uSveben!<br />
imitom rom is Seqspiris<br />
Teatria! amas Tavi davaneboT,<br />
Teatridan uSveb msoflioSi<br />
pirvel reJisors da sxva razea<br />
saubari? es gadacemebi<br />
dramatul TeatrebSi ar unda<br />
tardebodes, amisTvis gvaqvs<br />
sxva darbazebi. magram es yvelaferi<br />
Segnebulad keTdeba,<br />
radgan robert sturua radgan<br />
gavuSviT, axla Teatrs<br />
bolomde CavwixlavT. imitomac<br />
kidev, rom rusTavelis<br />
Teatri biZina ivaniSvilis gadarCenilia.<br />
gaxsovT, Teatris<br />
Senoba mTlianad amortizebuli<br />
iyo. ramdenime dRis win<br />
akaki xoravas saflavze viyavi<br />
da movubodiSe, ver mogiareTmeTqi.<br />
misi suli rusTavelis<br />
TeatrSi trialebs da iq vi-<br />
Rac malaizieli saWmels ake-<br />
Tebs, viRac striptizs cekvavs.<br />
sad kaco, sadac Cveni<br />
Teatraluri korifeebi gamodiodnen?<br />
ase vuvliT Cvens<br />
warsuls, Cvens siamayes? erovnul<br />
Rirsebas?<br />
vfiqrob, dRes urTierTlanZRvis<br />
dro ar aris. mec<br />
bevri ar momwons opoziciaSi,<br />
magram Cemgan kritika aravis<br />
gaugia. dRes qvebis Segrovebis<br />
droa, rodesac yvelam er-<br />
Tad unda SevagrovoT, dawyebuli<br />
biZina ivaniSvilidan,<br />
damTavrebuli nino burjanaZe-<br />
Ti. erTad unda davdgeT da<br />
vakeToT saqme.<br />
gia burduli<br />
eTer xviCia erT-erTi maTgania,<br />
vinac saqarTvelodan ucxoeTSi<br />
wasvla ekonomikuri problemebis<br />
mosagvareblad gadawyvita.<br />
didi xani ar aris, rac saberZneTSi<br />
`saerTo gazeTis~ erTguli<br />
mkiTxveli, qalbatoni eTeri<br />
TbilisSi dabrunda, amjerad<br />
mudmivad sacxovreblad da oriode<br />
dRis win redaqciaSic gvestumra.<br />
ra iyo Camosvlis realuri<br />
mizezi da rogori Cans aTenidan<br />
saqarTvelo? am da sxva sakiTxebze<br />
eTer xviCia gvesaubreba.<br />
_ saberZneTidanac kargad<br />
Canda, rom saqarTveloSi yvelaferi<br />
ise ar iyo, rogorc ambobdnen.<br />
amitomac meubnebodnen _<br />
xom ar Cqarob, jer, iqneb, wasvla<br />
ar Rirdeso, magram me dRes<br />
aq var da saqarTvelodan wasuli<br />
uamravi adamiani elodeba axla<br />
`saerTo gazeTs~, rom gaigon,<br />
sinamdvileSi ra xdeba da<br />
ra perspeqtiva elodeba ucxoe-<br />
Tidan dabrunebul adamians Tavis<br />
samSobloSi.<br />
sanam wamovidodi, ramdenime<br />
xniT adre saberZneTSi saqarTvelodan<br />
umaRlesi Tanamdebobis<br />
pirebi Camovidnen. ise gvelaparaknen,<br />
gvegona saqarTveloSi,<br />
ukve samoTxe iyo. bevrma gadawyvita<br />
maSin yvelafris mitoveba<br />
da samSobloSi dabruneba dabrunebis<br />
SemTxvevaSi 3000 evro-<br />
Ti daxmarebac cota ar aris.<br />
saberZneTSi piradad koba<br />
subelianisgan movismine, rom<br />
swored es saministro gascemda<br />
Tanxebs da rom Camovedi pirdapir<br />
batoni kobas uwyebaSi mivedi.<br />
3000 evros nacvlad 2000<br />
evro SemomTavazes, _ daniis<br />
programa, romelic 3000 iTvaliswinebda,<br />
Seicvala, Tanac,<br />
Cven yvelas ver vexmarebiTo.<br />
ramdenimejer mivakiTxe saministros,<br />
magram meubnebian ise rogorc<br />
erT mSvenier qarTul<br />
filmSia, `gekuTvniT, magram ar<br />
gekuTvniT~.<br />
biznesgegma warmoadgineT,<br />
soflis meurneobis ganviTarebisTviso,<br />
holandiur Zroxebze<br />
da germanul Rorebzea laparaki,<br />
hibriduli simindis ar iyos.<br />
fuls ar aZleven da undaT aCvenon,<br />
rom SeuZines ori Rori,<br />
erTi Zroxa fuli ar modis Cvenamde,<br />
sadRac qreba. ager guSin<br />
miTxres, rom momcemen, oRond<br />
jer ara. amasobaSi arCevnebi iqneba,<br />
mere evrokavSiri an gamoagzavnis,<br />
an uars ityvis. ai, am<br />
tyuilebs gaurbis xalxi, ga-<br />
WirvebasTan erTad tyuils da<br />
uimedobas gaurbis.<br />
me mainc mgonia, rom did<br />
tyuilzea yvelaferi agebuli.<br />
Zalian did farisevlobasa da<br />
tyuilze da vwerdiT amaze saberZneTSi<br />
gamomaval qarTul gazeTSi<br />
`eladaSic~. saqme isaa,<br />
rom ucxoeTSi yvela sakuTari<br />
problemebis gamoa wasuli da<br />
qveynis momavali bevrs ar awuxebs.<br />
saakaSvils marTaven misi<br />
patronebi, iseve, rogorc qar-<br />
Tul saelCoebs da sakonsulebs<br />
marTavs es xelisufleba ucxoeTSi.<br />
gaigos am xelisuflebam me,<br />
eTer xviCia, ara var misi mteri.<br />
aramed var opoziciaSi da<br />
msurs arCevnebis gziT Seicvalos<br />
xelisufleba. ramdenime<br />
wuTis win damirekes aTenidan.<br />
gugunebs opozicia:<br />
saberZneTi<br />
berZnebisTvis! moiTxoven<br />
_ ucxoelebi<br />
gavidnen saberZneTidan.<br />
saqarTveloSi<br />
gaubedavs vinme<br />
msgavs manifestacias<br />
erovnul<br />
umciresobebs? is<br />
ki ara, xelisufleba<br />
kanonebs iRebs<br />
erovnuli umciresobebis<br />
dasacavad.<br />
saqarTveloSi ki nelnela<br />
qarTvelebi viricxebiT<br />
umciresobaSi. umciresobaSi<br />
myofma osma da afxazma wagvar-<br />
Tva teritoriebi da umciresobaSi<br />
myofi somxebi da azerbaijanelebi<br />
iTxoven teritoriebs.<br />
mivxedoT Cvens qveyanas, marto<br />
erTi klasikosis berad aRkveca<br />
ar niSnavs saerTo sinanuls,<br />
Cven bevri ram davaSaveT<br />
erovnuli xelisuflebis wina-<br />
Se, kerZod, zviad gamsaxurdias<br />
winaSe, romelic ambobda: saxelmwifo<br />
dotaciaze vtoveb<br />
jandacvas da ganaTlebas, radgan<br />
me janmrTeli da ganaTlebuli<br />
qarTvelebi mWirdebao.<br />
aseT kacs aRudga iaraRiT inteligenciis<br />
warmomadgenlebi da<br />
axla aris Cvens qveyanaSi isev<br />
riaria.<br />
axlovdeba 26 maisi, romelic<br />
merab kostavas dabadebis<br />
da zviad gamsaxurdias prezidentad<br />
arCevis dRea. Cemi megobrebi<br />
agroveben Tanxas saberZneTSi.<br />
vapirebT orive didi patriotis<br />
saflavze mivideT da<br />
Rirseulad mivagoT pativi maT<br />
xsovnas, ise rogorc maT sulebs<br />
ekadreba.<br />
ar viciT, ra iqneba 26 maiss,<br />
magram ar SeiZleba ase, ivaniSvili<br />
iqiT atarebs Sekrebas,<br />
burjanaZe gabrazda da CaSala<br />
filarmoniaSi Sexvedra... vinc<br />
ra unda, is Tqvas, SarSan 26 maiss<br />
nino burjanaZe gmiri iyo,<br />
da xelisuflebamac da opoziacamac<br />
am dRis mimarT meti pasuxismgebloba<br />
gamoiCinos. sxvanairi<br />
dRea 26 maisi saqarTvelos-<br />
Tvis. da bolos da bolos samarTlebrivi<br />
Sefaseba unda mieces<br />
90-iani wlebis movlenebs.<br />
aTeulobiT gulanTebuli adamiania<br />
gadaxvewili saqarTvelodan<br />
erovnuli xelisuflebis mxardaWerisTvis<br />
da maTi dabruneba<br />
waadgeba qveyanas.<br />
Cven vuRalateT erovnul xelisuflebas,<br />
Cven vuRalateT<br />
wavediT TavmoyvareobaSelaxulebi<br />
saqarTvelodan, davbrundiT da<br />
kvlav Tavmoyvareobas gvilaxaven<br />
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />
internetSi<br />
www.saertogazeti.ge<br />
SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />
sakuTar Tavs, amitom, rac ar<br />
unda moxdes, arCevnebi da a.S.<br />
yvelaferi absurdi iqneba.<br />
aseTi cxovreba ar dagvidgeboda,<br />
metad gonivrulad rom<br />
vyofiliyaviT 90-ian wlebSi.<br />
axla Tbilisi Sendeba, magram<br />
visTvis? Cems saxlTan axlos<br />
umweoTa dasaxmareblad ufaso<br />
supi rigdeba, yofili mecniermuSakebi<br />
am sasadilos xSiri<br />
stumrebi arian.<br />
me ki, erT Cveulebriv qarTvels,<br />
rac saberZneTidan Camovedi,<br />
arc erT uwyebaSi ilias,<br />
akakis da iakobis eniT ar melaparakebian,<br />
dayenebuli imijiT,<br />
dayenebuli metyvelebiT, ucxouri<br />
aqcentiT metyveleben Cveni<br />
axalgazrdebi, romlebic Sinaganad<br />
ar arian qarTvelebi... amas<br />
saberZneTSi arc erTi berZeni<br />
ar gaakeTebs. Cemi TvaliT maqvs<br />
nanaxi berZnebis damokidebuleba<br />
saxelmwifos mimarT. maT saber-<br />
ZneTi berZenisTvis surT. Cven<br />
erTxel vTqviT _`saqarTvelo<br />
qarTvelebisTviso~ da lamisaa<br />
gadagvayoles amas. saberZneTSi<br />
vin gabedavs, rac gaakeTes amas<br />
winaT parlamentis win azerbaijanelebma,<br />
rac uwodes jondi<br />
baRaTurias, romelime qveyanaSi<br />
umciresoba amas gabedavda? ratom<br />
irRveva Cems qveyanaSi Cemi<br />
uflebebi?<br />
wavediT TavmoyvareobaSelaxulebi<br />
saqarTvelodan, davbrundiT<br />
da kvlav Tavmoyvareobas<br />
gvilaxaven. saqarTvelos xelisufleba<br />
qarTveli xalxis<br />
mtrad aris qceuli da Cemi azriT,<br />
ase Zlieri saxelmwifo<br />
ver aSendeba.<br />
ana vadaWkoria
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